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cocker122563
January 27th, 2004, 08:51 PM
it is common practice among most cockers to soak their conditioner grains overnight to facilitate easier digestion inside the chickens gut. but i've heard of someone who feeds dry just as long as his birds has access to unlimited water whole day long. which is best?

with regards to pelletized feed, can we feed them straight from the box or wet them a little?

sonny_padilla
January 27th, 2004, 09:08 PM
the practice of soaking the conitioner/concentrate feeds is simply to soften the grains for our bird easy swallowig.
but hve you notice the smell of the grains when oversoaked
maasim parang napanis.nagferment na.
me i just wash the grains and feed it rightaway and give a lot of clean drinking water.

xinga
January 27th, 2004, 10:58 PM
I soak chop corn over nite, and mix it with pellet conditioner, clean out the soaked corn with fresh water before mix with your pellet conditioner.

tsampoy
January 27th, 2004, 11:45 PM
tsampoy says,if you are using the AIR CONDITION METHOD feed dry,but if you are using VENTILADOR METHOD use wet feed.........................am singing..........."TELL ME WHY!..............hahaha................WHY SHOULD I..............hahahahahahaha!:lol: :lol:

swallow
January 28th, 2004, 09:18 AM
Feed dry, and make sure water is accessible at all times... if you want to soak feeds, as much as possible don't go over 2 hours...

It is better for the birds to control the water requirement on their own, and i see better performance from those birds feed dry than those feed soaked feeds for overnight..


just my thoughts

Edong
January 28th, 2004, 09:49 AM
It is also easier to feed using dry feeds. You don't need feeder cup.. Just throw it to the bird.. :)

Wintuha
January 28th, 2004, 04:26 PM
Feeding dry concentrate or wet (soaked over 2 hours or overnight) will depend on weather condition. During summer when the temperature is hot it is better to feed your gamecocks with wet concentrate and provide him plenty of water so that he will not be dehydrated. During wet season or rainny season, it will be better to feed your gamecocks dry so that he can restore the heat in his body. It will help him to avoid chilling because of cool temperature.

cocker122563
January 28th, 2004, 05:21 PM
there is a tendency for cocks fed dry to be prone to indigestion or being crop-bound due to not being able to digest its food properly? different cocks have different eating and drinking habits. those that do not drink water much are the ones who suffer most from crop-bound syndrome.

let's admit that grains soaked overnight for a minimum of about 8 hours are more easily digestible because it has been softened by water than dry grains.

in emoy gorgonia's article in one of the cocking magazines entitled "cocking nutrition part 3", he said that the embryo/germ of grains (like wheat, soya, jockey oats, corn, sorghum, sunflower seeds, etc) contains fat and more of the pro rata vitamins and minerals, hence, it is best to 'soak' and germinate grains. he further stated that grains are best cooked, if not, then soaked, soured or fermented. i think you have to at least soak your grains overnight to get that soured or fermented effect.

i, for one, noticed the awful smell of the grains that have been soaked for sometime but before feeding it to my fowls, i rinse it with tap water thoroughly before feeding it to them.

i have time and again experienced having cocks not passing their feeds and i always have one helluva hard time treating them therefore i make sure that they can easily digest what i feed them.

i rest my case.

paquito56
January 28th, 2004, 06:38 PM
All of the opinions have a valid point. im just telling my own point of viewIMHO and according to experience in Puerto Rico observing the big guys there. The first time in my life that i saw the wet feeding was when i move to The P.I. , coz in Puerto Rico chickens are fed and condition in a different way, with only some similarities. Most of the feeding is dry and of course enough water to drink..Even thou, i got used to P.I. feeding, i mean soaking the corn and etc , coz i think is easier for the chicken to digest. I still leave water the whole day to my cocks, coz they are very good judges of what they need to drink, with the exeption when fighting day is getting closer. Here the weather is very similar to my country, hot and humid..At least next time i will visit P.R., i will bring the P.I. feeding soaking style to my friends there...I know they will love it......Gracias..

kutangbato
January 29th, 2004, 06:53 PM
IMHO, wet feeding during hot & dry season.
during the rainy or wet season,its alryt to feed dry, as long as they have access to water.

soaking grains not only activates some nutrients, as the seeds germinate, but if i rmember right, soaking and washing the grains after soaking removes phytic acid.

having fermented grains is no problem as long as you wash them, the acid will be washed off. i think grains also ferment in the crop of the chickens, and it aids in digesting the food. so when you soak, you get the benefit of fermenting, germinating, minus the acid.

the experts' opinion: Teddy Tanchangco recommends soaking the grains in the morning for afternoon feed, and soaking the grains in the afternoon for morning feed the next day.

tony hidalgo, however, soaks the grains for 10 minutes only. this is because he measures the feed of his cocks by volume (whiskey jigger), and grains will imbibe water when soaked, so he avoids this to measure feed accurately.

they do this during conditioning, when feed nutrients absorption is very critical and cocks needs to be empty most of the time. soaking lessens the time for digestion of feed.

oh, and i read this from their books, articles. hope this helps.

don b
January 29th, 2004, 11:43 PM
If you have few birds and have good grains, you can feed them sprouts. Let the grains sprout, they have more enzemes.

ligas_paka2006
May 3rd, 2006, 05:53 AM
dry works for us

Kidd Sentencia
May 3rd, 2006, 06:20 AM
Ligas is a miner...a good one too;)

Kidd

ligas_paka2006
May 3rd, 2006, 07:18 AM
kidd:
miner blue ;)