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JericP
July 17th, 2010, 01:44 PM
Bull Stag.. 1/2 Curis leiper 1/2 Cardinal kelso RNRO...

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Bull Stag,, 1/2 Curtis Leiper 1/2 Machine Kleso....


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easy goer
July 17th, 2010, 01:58 PM
Awesome! thats what i am talking about!!!.... i officialy baptize this specific cock by the name of "Serial Killer" ... hehehhee


thanks Sir CA for the appreciation..he is now under precon for the upcoming stag derby this coming september..2 of his brother also is on the line up..hope lady luck is on our side..

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JericP
July 17th, 2010, 01:58 PM
2 times winner 2009 bakbakan 10 stag winner 7 wins 1 draw 2loss & 2010 Bakbakan 8 Bull stag winner 6 wins 2 loss 1/2 Curtis leiper 1/2 machine kelso...

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2 times winner 2009 Bakbakan 10 stag & 2010 bakbakan bull stag.. 1/2 Curtis leiper 1/2 larry Romero sweater..

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JericP
July 17th, 2010, 02:10 PM
Curtis Blackwell leiper.....
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1/2 leiper 1/2 mclean....

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JericP
July 17th, 2010, 02:27 PM
2010 Bakbakan banded 1/4 leiper 1/4 mclean 1/2 larry Romero sweater

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Curtis Blakwell Leiper Broodhen..

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Curtis Blakwell Leiper Broodhen.. & 2010 Bakbakan banded.. 1/4 leiper 1/4 mclean 1/2 Larry Romero sweater..


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2010 bakbakan banded 1/4 Leiper 1/4 mclean 1/2 larry Romero sweater

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lurena
July 17th, 2010, 02:43 PM
Bull Stag.. 1/2 Curis leiper 1/2 Cardinal kelso RNRO...

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o167/jericp/DSC03636.jpg


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Bull Stag,, 1/2 Curtis Leiper 1/2 Machine Kleso....


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The leiper x kelso crosses have been very good to me. In Jalisco Mexico we have won 75% or better with these crosses. There is no better cross for shortknife. My personal experience.

Matt Dunne
July 17th, 2010, 06:13 PM
Best Leiper I have seen also comes from Butch (Irishcutt) his daddy got them from Hennie Mathieus in 1950s. They come both pea and straight comb. I have his straight comb version and am very impressed with them. I cross them with Clarets and Allans and perform thier best at 1/4 % crosses.

These are meduim station broad backed fowl and look nothing like what I see people posting these days as leipers. what I see posted looks like they have asil blended into them.

Cheers

JericP
July 17th, 2010, 09:09 PM
Best Leiper I have seen also comes from Butch (Irishcutt) his daddy got them from Hennie Mathieus in 1950s. They come both pea and straight comb. I have his straight comb version and am very impressed with them. I cross them with Clarets and Allans and perform thier best at 1/4 % crosses.

These are meduim station broad backed fowl and look nothing like what I see people posting these days as leipers. what I see posted looks like they have asil blended into them.

Cheers

Sir Matt I'm not sure Heinei Matheseus he has a leiper fowl.....dont worry I'll ask my old friend at Marion VA,untill now he still breed this fowl Heinei matheseus hatch....
I would like to share to every one her, Heinie Matheseus fowl.....pics...


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harry
July 17th, 2010, 09:31 PM
nice fowls sir sure look like the old time hatch

emfsupermac
July 17th, 2010, 10:10 PM
my Leiper 1st win http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2orYwUnlw4
his 2nd win http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCUSRLWp3tc


the henny kicks a lot but it seems theres no knife in his leg:D

joekris
July 18th, 2010, 12:55 AM
Sir Matt I'm not sure Heinei Matheseus he has a leiper fowl.....dont worry I'll ask my old friend at Marion VA,untill now he still breed this fowl Heinei matheseus hatch....
I would like to share to every one her, Heinie Matheseus fowl.....pics...


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nice chickens! dirty farm!

DPotter
July 18th, 2010, 01:01 AM
joekris,
Was that really called for?

EAA Indians
July 18th, 2010, 05:37 AM
Best Leiper I have seen also comes from Butch (Irishcutt) his daddy got them from Hennie Mathieus in 1950s. They come both pea and straight comb. I have his straight comb version and am very impressed with them. I cross them with Clarets and Allans and perform thier best at 1/4 % crosses.

These are meduim station broad backed fowl and look nothing like what I see people posting these days as leipers. what I see posted looks like they have asil blended into them.

Cheers

Matt, please post some pics and videos of your Leiper.

thanks........ed

joekris
July 18th, 2010, 09:02 AM
joekris,
Was that really called for?

no offense meant. its just good chickens deserves clean ground and taken cared of well.

JericP
July 18th, 2010, 10:04 AM
Best Leiper I have seen also comes from Butch (Irishcutt) his daddy got them from Hennie Mathieus in 1950s. They come both pea and straight comb. I have his straight comb version and am very impressed with them. I cross them with Clarets and Allans and perform thier best at 1/4 % crosses.

These are meduim station broad backed fowl and look nothing like what I see people posting these days as leipers. what I see posted looks like they have asil blended into them.

Cheers


Sir Matt I did ask my friend from VA I talked to him about Hienei Matheseus bloodline

he never had a leiper hatch ....I dont know who told told you he has a Leiper

no offense Sir matt.... peace.....

RickC
July 18th, 2010, 11:58 AM
No offense please but i tend to agree with "joekris".

Our gladiators deserve that much care.
It is hard enough to win with all the competition and if they aren't given the necessary care (that i relate to their best health) that just lessens their chances when matched with well cared of others.

Thx. . ..

RickC

bogoy
July 18th, 2010, 01:02 PM
He He He He He...if You Want Some Authentic Sandy Hatch..call Paul Fittin, He Is Retiring Now...;)

LIEPER (JIMMY EAST)X LIEPER( BLACKWELL OFFSPRING OF 1XW
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Matt Dunne
July 18th, 2010, 04:28 PM
Sir Matt I did ask my friend from VA I talked to him about Hienei Matheseus bloodline

he never had a leiper hatch ....I dont know who told told you he has a Leiper

no offense Sir matt.... peace.....

JericP
No ofence has been taken at all. Opions, questions and queries are what this site is about and how every1 learns
Congrats it now seems you know more then your friend in VA.


This is the story of them
around the late 40's early 50's, living in Illinois dad, Al Clausen and Charlie Hendricks wanted some pure Hatch fowl and decided to drive to Orange New Jersey to see Mr. Hienie Mathieus and get them straight from him. They loaded up dad's old woody station wagon and made the trek east. When they got their Mr. Mathieus sold them some green and yellow legged hatch fowl. Each one of the men bought a hen of each color leg. Dad bought a cock that Mr. Mathieus said was a pure lieper hatch. The same he let J. D. Perry have when he got them. The Sandy Hatch were straight and the lieper were pea comb. Dad line bred them ever since. Al and Charlie Kept their's straight too. Even today after all these years Al who is the only living one of them kept his sandy hatch. Dad continually bred to the lieper side of them.


Matt around 1970 my brother was here on leave and him and my dad went to Georgia to get some new lieper blood from Howard Suttles. Yep the same one who I got some white claret blood from. Dad got a straight comb and pea comb cock from Mr. Suttles. He then bred the straight comb cock over some pea comb lieper hens and then the peacomb cock over some straight comb hens. This is one way we maintained our liepers all these years. Plus maintaining the original liepers for years before adding new blood. Over the years we have bred them both ways and I really cant see any difference in their styles.

This as was told to me from Butch (Irishcutt) I have had these fowl for over 10 yrs and have no reason to doubt his word.


Ed
I will work on some photos to post. I will get the boys to send some.

Cheers

JericP
July 19th, 2010, 05:45 AM
JericP
No ofence has been taken at all. Opions, questions and queries are what this site is about and how every1 learns
Congrats it now seems you know more then your friend in VA.


This is the story of them
around the late 40's early 50's, living in Illinois dad, Al Clausen and Charlie Hendricks wanted some pure Hatch fowl and decided to drive to Orange New Jersey to see Mr. Hienie Mathieus and get them straight from him. They loaded up dad's old woody station wagon and made the trek east. When they got their Mr. Mathieus sold them some green and yellow legged hatch fowl. Each one of the men bought a hen of each color leg. Dad bought a cock that Mr. Mathieus said was a pure lieper hatch. The same he let J. D. Perry have when he got them. The Sandy Hatch were straight and the lieper were pea comb. Dad line bred them ever since. Al and Charlie Kept their's straight too. Even today after all these years Al who is the only living one of them kept his sandy hatch. Dad continually bred to the lieper side of them.


Matt around 1970 my brother was here on leave and him and my dad went to Georgia to get some new lieper blood from Howard Suttles. Yep the same one who I got some white claret blood from. Dad got a straight comb and pea comb cock from Mr. Suttles. He then bred the straight comb cock over some pea comb lieper hens and then the peacomb cock over some straight comb hens. This is one way we maintained our liepers all these years. Plus maintaining the original liepers for years before adding new blood. Over the years we have bred them both ways and I really cant see any difference in their styles.

This as was told to me from Butch (Irishcutt) I have had these fowl for over 10 yrs and have no reason to doubt his word.


Ed
I will work on some photos to post. I will get the boys to send some.

Cheers

Sir matt ask my kumpare Bogoy, only two guys Hienei matheseus he gave all his chicken when he passesd awey, he left a letter to his wife to gave all his chicken to these 2 guys
one pesron his Paul fitfit from upstate new.york the other person my freind from marion VA Bert Catalan......he is a Filipino he come from Iloilo...City.... bert tol me HM he never had a Leiper.....if you want more imfo. about HM bloodline
you could PM me or PM Bogoy or I will gave to you Bert Catalan phone #...peace sir matt....

irishcutt
July 19th, 2010, 07:01 AM
What I told Matt is absolutely the God's truth. If its a lie Hienie Mathieus told it. So just for the sake of argument Im including a little tidbit on the hatch history. It tells of Sanford Hatch and Judge Lieper's connection.

Mr. Hatch's cocking career must have started in the early 1880's. I say this because in about 1942 he came to me at a Claymore tournament at Saratoga, NY, shook hands and said, "Mr. Piper, you have said some very nice things about my fowl in The Feathered Warrior, so I am going to tell you a little about them and how I got started in the game."

I had seen Hatch fight mains at Troy for many years previous to then but that was the first and only time I ever talked to him.

"I got my first fowl from a man on Long Island who had a family of dark red green legged chickens. I got a lot of fowl from him, single cocks and stags and hens and pullets and also trios and yards of fowl."

Now, I will have to digress for a moment and tell another story. Mr. Hatch didn't tell me who the man on Long Island was and it could have been one of several. There was a man whose name I believe was Cassidy who was a floor walker or a minor executive in a large department store in New York City who was one of Mike Kearney's followers. Mike Kearney at that time had his Kearney Whitehackles and his Brown Reds which he had brought over from Ireland in 1870 and raised and fought them in and around New York City. Cassidy was said to have gotten a Whitehackle cock and a Brown Red hen or vice versa from Kearney and put them with the late Judge Leiper of Long Island to breed. Leiper was a Justice of the Peace and not a Judge. He was sort of a "black sheep" member of an aristocratic and wealthy Philadelphia, Pennsylvania family. The Judge, as he was called, was more interested in baseball, harness horses, and cockfighting than in society, so he was considered by his family as sort of an outcast. Still he was a fine old man. I saw him several times at Troy, NY way back in the late 1920's or early 30's. Leiper claimed Hatch's first fowl came from him and it could be the man Mr. Hatch mentioned was Leiper. I am sure I don't know. If that were true, then Hatch's first fowl would have been a cross of Kearney Brownred and Kearney Whitehackle. However, that cross would not produce ALL dark red green legged chickens. More likely the dark red green legs Hatch got on Long Island were a family called "Clamdiggers.

irishcutt
July 19th, 2010, 07:28 AM
Years ago the old cockers called Murphy fowl, Murphy Hatch!! For some reason some folks started calling them Murphy Whitehackles.. Murphy and Hatch were partners in thier cocking days. Murphy could and would go to Hatch's estate and tell Hienie what fowl he wanted to breed and then take them home with him. And he would return the some of the offspring to Hatchs' place when done. They fought together as the Long Island Entry in many of the long heel tournaments of Florida. Hatch had clarets in his chickens. They called them "Shock Troops"! When asked what they were showing at one of the Florida Tournaments, Hienie responded "hatch, choke full of Clarets"...If you ever read the E.W. Law, breeding records you will see where he got Hatch and Leiper blood in his brood pens. And all this when Cooke bought out Hatch. I doubt very seriously if anyone living today can tell us how the hatch brood pens were put together after nearly 70 since they were sold to Cooke!! We can all speculate and all want to be known as the man who got the only ones in existance but how can you tell what you bought after all these years...Hatch bought fowl from every Tom, Dick and Harry if they had great fowl and put them in his brood pens. Since nearly all them great cockers of New York, knew each other and many exchanged brood fowl, why wouldnt Sanford Hatch have gotten some Liepers or vice versa?? Plus since Liepers are not Hatch, why did Hienie say here is Lieper Hatch cock? Unless he meant a Hatch cock full of Lieper? Or a lieper full of Hatch? Who knows anymore?? All I know is what my dad and the other fellows were saying when they got back from New York and New Jersey. Yep they got the fowl in Orange, New Jersey where Hieinie lived at that time. We all know how stories get changed, added too and subtracted from over many, many years.. But thats' one my father told till they day he passed away.

EAA Indians
July 19th, 2010, 07:40 AM
We are good storytellers. The Leipers are very good fowl.

My Leipers are Percy Flowers and Harold Brown and they have slightly different fowls even though Percy Flowers bought out Harold Brown. My Harold Brown was acquired in the 60s before Percy Flowers bought Harold. And later, the Percy Flowers Leiper was acquired.

Irishcutt told the story about Mr. Suttles sharing with them the letters from Harold Brown wanting to acquire Mr. Suttles Leipers. It was an interesting story.

1Kneehandhigh told a story that Harold Brown Leiper was from JD Perry and Judge Leiper. Again, it was an interesting story.

As I observed closely the Percy Flowers and Harold Brown Leipers, I came to the conclusion that the Percy Flowers Leiper was more suited for the gaff. The Harold Brown Leiper was more suited for the Long Knife.

My observation was confirmed when I researched the notable cockers who won these Leipers. One special cocker who I contacted was Wayne Haulmark.

Wayne Haulmark had the Harold Brown Leiper and he crossed it to George Wood Lacy. With this cross, Wayne was cocker-of-the year, won the Guam Big Derby 2 consecutive years and the Araneta International Derby two consecutive years- all happening in the mid 80s.

The Leipers of Wayne Haulmark and my Leipers could have changed. Plus Wayne was one of the best feeders of his time and I in no way could a feeder.

Right now, all I have is a breed with a winning history and nothing more.

The challenge is how to refresh this Leiper and make adjustments to its style to become a contender in today's competition.

EAA Indians
July 19th, 2010, 08:29 AM
Bogoy and Manning, why don't you give Paul Fittin the treat of his life and show him around the WSC in January 2011...... your lasting gift to the man.

bogoy
July 19th, 2010, 09:43 AM
Bogoy and Manning, why don't you give Paul Fittin the treat of his life and show him around the WSC in January 2011...... your lasting gift to the man.

RAISING THE LEGEND BLOODLINE IS ENOUGH FOR HIM..PROVED ONE OF THE BEST BLOODLINE HE HAD AND FOR HIS PAST TIME..NOW IS TIME TO RETIRED WHAT HE SAID...A WSC DVD IS ENOUGH TO MY OLD FRIEND..HE MIGHT CARBAGE IT...HE DON'T LIKE LK SHOW..:rolleyes:

sarmiento1
July 19th, 2010, 11:58 AM
here is a Rat Graves leiper i acquired recently from jbr farm, these are from parents direct from rat graves
http://sarmiento1.multiply.com/photos/album/14/another_newly_acquired_authentic_materials_from_jb r_farm#photo=2

http://sarmiento1.multiply.com/photos/album/14/another_newly_acquired_authentic_materials_from_jb r_farm

these is a 6 month stag

sarmiento1
July 19th, 2010, 12:11 PM
Fellow cock mates,

I was wanting to get some information on the lieper hatch. I am going to purchase this blood and so far I am favoring the blood that Mr. Jimmy East Jr. has. Can I get some input from all you guys. Pictures and videos would also be great.

Thank you,
bro i acquired some pure leipers from a friend of mine here in the philippines, he got his breeding trio direct from the pen of Rat Graves

plantze
August 20th, 2010, 01:05 PM
sir RICKC, do you sell some of your lieper? just inquiring sir! thanks

Bigtimber
December 18th, 2010, 11:23 PM
Just bringing it back to the top for the Leipers

kingrattler
December 19th, 2010, 03:53 PM
I fought in a derby against a man named junior strange he has by far the best leiper hatch i have ever seen but very expensive, and even better than juniors leipers are those hack lauderdale hatches that roundhead man has, i believe they are leiper bloods but im not sure they are good sk, lk, and gaff no better hatches out there. i cross them on radios and i made the best cross cocks ive ever seen.

73maagap
December 20th, 2010, 03:16 AM
pls educate me anyone of you expert cockers. is the leiper a kind of hatch or is it just the name of a breeder called leiper? thanks.

angus
December 20th, 2010, 03:20 AM
Hack has the mclean hatch that came from Curtis Blackwell.

k.cobrafowl
December 22nd, 2010, 01:09 AM
i like those is there any way i can buy a pair

k.cobrafowl
December 22nd, 2010, 01:14 AM
pure brood stocks hatch village direct
can i buy some of those

elben21
December 22nd, 2010, 01:28 AM
tumaba kakaain ng talunan...:D

thanks...goodluck to ur breeding ventures:)


Hindi kaya tumaba sa ka pipirito nang itlogs at manoks na pullets...LOL

elben21
December 22nd, 2010, 01:34 AM
newly acquired rat graves lieper hatch

http://addbotskill100.multiply.com/photos/album/3/Rat_Graves_Leiper_Hatch#photo=1

Nice lieper hatch...

doggs
December 22nd, 2010, 03:15 AM
You right kingrattler roundheadman get some of the best hatches I seen also awsome birds
I fought in a derby against a man named junior strange he has by far the best leiper hatch i have ever seen but very expensive, and even better than juniors leipers are those hack lauderdale hatches that roundhead man has, i believe they are leiper bloods but im not sure they are good sk, lk, and gaff no better hatches out there. i cross them on radios and i made the best cross cocks ive ever seen.

gcardinal03
December 22nd, 2010, 05:01 AM
My Leiper broodstag
http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k548/gcornejo85/026.jpg

gcardinal03
December 24th, 2010, 05:59 AM
My leiper broodstag from Mike Middleton
http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k548/gcornejo85/026.jpg

B&B fowl
December 24th, 2010, 06:07 AM
Hey i think they cross well over sweater greys, an doc hatch.

james a
December 27th, 2010, 08:32 AM
I was looking for some good hatch and I was given Johnny P. Mitchells phone # and I called him and then I went and visited with him, that was the first of many visits and I thank God for that, I was lucky to get my leipers from him personally,I show my leipers and really like them, if you would to talk to me about them I can give you my phone #.
I like this Johnny Mitchell Lieper (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEKgANvCqmg&feature=related)

damdam
December 27th, 2010, 09:00 AM
not heard much leiper winning in the philippines. what is best to cross for leiper?

james a
December 29th, 2010, 03:02 AM
I was looking for some good hatch and I was given Johnny P. Mitchells phone # and I called him and then I went and visited with him, that was the first of many visits and I thank God for that, I was lucky to get my leipers from him personally,I show my leipers and really like them, if you would to talk to me about them I can give you my phone #.1-606-663-4403

californiafowl
January 4th, 2011, 08:30 AM
any opinions just got this guy today from a close friend sparred him he looks real good :D -cali

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz325/californiafowl/SAM_0021.jpg

lurena
January 4th, 2011, 08:37 AM
any opinions just got this guy today from a close friend sparred him he looks real good :D -cali

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz325/californiafowl/SAM_0021.jpg

Looks nice californiafowl. What kind of leiper is he?

californiafowl
January 4th, 2011, 08:46 AM
the guy i got them from says he doesnt know but i know he preforms and that is all that matters to me gunna try him over my warhorse and kelso -cali

Calikid_310
January 4th, 2011, 12:11 PM
He looks like a producer... Best of luck

Racer19
January 4th, 2011, 06:39 PM
Nice good looking, may need a worming

james1953
January 4th, 2011, 08:54 PM
should do the trick, looks like he'd be a good producer, best of luck,

cockfighter_199
January 15th, 2011, 12:46 PM
im looking for some graves leiper blood

Calikid_310
January 15th, 2011, 01:26 PM
rat graves or east jr's... any pics to compare...

clyde nelson
February 21st, 2011, 10:56 AM
worm him then put a head of cabbage in the pen for green stuff, he is dark like mine should make a brood cock.

californiafowl
February 21st, 2011, 11:36 AM
thanks everyone i wormed him and all that stuff heres a more recent pic
http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz325/californiafowl/SAM_0542.jpg

moseley
February 21st, 2011, 11:38 AM
does he stay close to the ground yet very aggressive. just WANTING to get in there and hurt something?

Lights Out
February 21st, 2011, 11:54 AM
http://sabong.net.ph/forum/picture.php?albumid=272&pictureid=1622

californiafowl
February 21st, 2011, 12:49 PM
man is he agressive he wants to go go go i will post a vid later -cali

moseley
February 21st, 2011, 05:18 PM
i just got me some to and they built and colored similar to him. man said they was johnny mitchells. looked at old grit and steel and seen a pic of johnny with one of his lieper cocks and they looked like this to. dont mean nothing and could not be but i like them so far.

decerhatchlover
March 11th, 2011, 10:34 PM
mga bro totoo ba na ang pure leiper ay may kaliskis sa talampakan,,kasi meron akong leiper, pito sa mga anak nya ang na ilaban ko at puro panalo,,saan kaya ako makbili ng pure talaga..yung rats grave leiper talaga...pls help

aemartinez
March 13th, 2011, 07:38 AM
leiper hatch http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv108/08-02-59/2nd%20album%2012-12-10/shamos012.jpg

tjtornado
March 13th, 2011, 07:47 AM
Just want to read this thread... I know there will
be a guy who will post his Hatch that nobody can compare
maybe he did already

lurena
March 13th, 2011, 07:59 AM
leiper hatch http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv108/08-02-59/2nd%20album%2012-12-10/shamos012.jpg

Nice looking Hatch aemartinez. What type of Hatch is this?

aemartinez
March 13th, 2011, 10:54 AM
Nice looking Hatch aemartinez. What type of Hatch is this?

jimmy east leiper hatch

brown lords
March 15th, 2011, 10:07 AM
i love this hatches..........

CALVIN2
March 15th, 2011, 07:26 PM
A Leiper is a Leiper and a Hatch is a Hatch , Two different men .

jjmccloud2011
March 19th, 2011, 08:23 PM
Hello fellow cockers does anyone know the story on the Johnny Mitchell Leipers how he made them or what he used or did he just get someone's leipers and breed them pure to his liking and put his name on them if so how about the history of the Leipers in general thx so much

irishcutt
March 19th, 2011, 08:29 PM
Johnny got his liepers from Percy Flowers and over the years added other lines to his liepers. One of his favorite lines to add were Regular Greys.

red24
March 22nd, 2011, 03:50 AM
he also added nigger roundhead

red24
March 22nd, 2011, 04:34 AM
steve kay leiper very high station deadly cutting 1000 for cocks 750 hens cross good with grey very agressive cross good with rounhead

ripps
April 1st, 2011, 08:20 AM
Hello fellow cockers,
I just received a so called Leiper hen,can some post pics of a Leiper hen so i can get an idea what a Real Leiper hen looks like...
And, is breeding her to a Sweater a good idea or shall i go with the dark fowls..??
Appreciate all pics and opinions..

ripps
April 1st, 2011, 08:39 AM
BTW,
The color of Leiper hens leg..?
Black,yellow,etc...???
Can't seem to locate a picture of a hen here of the Gamecock magizine..

moseley
April 1st, 2011, 09:15 AM
http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee446/moseley1/DSC01256.jpg

they come pea or rose combed. hope this helps.

BIGRIG18
April 1st, 2011, 09:31 AM
nice:)http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee446/moseley1/DSC01256.jpg

they come pea or rose combed. hope this helps.

BullyPimp
April 1st, 2011, 09:34 AM
heres my Leiper hen with a Abear Kelso rooster.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e49/teamgenuine/Picture027.jpg

EAA Indians
April 1st, 2011, 09:44 AM
Bully Pimp, is the Leiper hen from Guam Cocker and Dean J?

EAA

BullyPimp
April 1st, 2011, 09:51 AM
No this is a direct Leiper from Rat Graves also the Kelso

ripps
April 1st, 2011, 10:11 AM
Those are some nice looking hens...
This hen that i received has a light to medium color body with a dark hackle with light yellow legs...
Does Rat Graves have any hens that come that way..?

JericP
April 1st, 2011, 02:01 PM
Blackwell Curtis Leiper broddhen Peacomb and straightcomb..

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o167/jericp/DSC05777.jpg

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o167/jericp/DSC05799.jpg

JericP
April 1st, 2011, 02:10 PM
Lieper Imported Straightcomb..

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o167/jericp/DSC04600.jpg

F1 Born Straightcomb...


http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o167/jericp/DSC04591.jpg

JericP
April 1st, 2011, 02:15 PM
Leiper Peacomb.....

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o167/jericp/DSC04584.jpg

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o167/jericp/DSC04571.jpg

JericP
April 1st, 2011, 02:28 PM
Leiper Straught comb...

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o167/jericp/DSC03661.jpg

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o167/jericp/DSC018621.jpg

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o167/jericp/DSC018631.jpg

MILLPOND
April 4th, 2011, 01:47 AM
IN the usa who still breed the purest liepers as to the original bloodline and second question no matter what added who has the best liepers today that are selling fowl ... Thanks Yfis EDDIE
Please post all opinions welcome lets start a friendly discussion also want to hear from friends in Mexico and Philippines who do you buy from {liepers}

mexican rooster
April 4th, 2011, 02:54 AM
ok Eddie,in my opinion there's just 2 good leiper lines,Gary Gilliam and Jimmy East jr.,I have a line of leipers that comes from Jeff Hudspedt,but I added gary's blood line on them,but is just that I think,regards.

MILLPOND
April 4th, 2011, 03:09 AM
ok Eddie,in my opinion there's just 2 good leiper lines,Gary Gilliam and Jimmy East jr.,I have a line of leipers that comes from Jeff Hudspedt,but I added gary's blood line on them,but is just that I think,regards.

Hi mexican rooster , welcome Thanks for your post . I also like the liepers
from jimmy east jr. A very good bloodline . I believe that they can be traced
back to harold brown ,for sure jimmy east sr. bloodline does . Never seen any
Gary Gilliam liepers in action thanks for sharing your knowledge .
If you were to buy today which bloodline would you prefer or do you like your
blend the best...
Thanks YFIS EDDIE

Thompson
April 4th, 2011, 03:19 AM
Rat Graves #1 Leipers in my opinion.

MILLPOND
April 4th, 2011, 03:34 AM
Rat Graves #1 Leipers in my opinion.


HI Thompson , Thanks for posting . Rat graves liepers are awesome liepers
no doubt about that from all the posts . People post great pic of his birds.
From what I have read he added other bloodlines to his liepers can't remember what it was at the moment . Maybe somebody could share what they know about what the composition of his liepers are...

How about the other question who has the original bloodline or closest to it.
Maybe the answer is still Rat Graves ... what does everyone think ....

Thanks YFIS EDDIE

Dos amigos
April 4th, 2011, 03:52 AM
I have Rat's and Mitchel's and I like the mitchel's better they are more uniform in everything , this will be the last year breeding the Rat's.

Thompson
April 4th, 2011, 04:11 AM
Rats are from Jimmy East Jr. I know of nothing he has added. I do know they swap brood fowl every few years.

Laguan
April 4th, 2011, 06:44 AM
Rat Graves #1 Leipers in my opinion.

Sr's Leipers are also good.

MILLPOND
April 4th, 2011, 10:00 AM
I have Rat's and Mitchel's and I like the mitchel's better they are more uniform in everything , this will be the last year breeding the Rat's.


Dos amigos ,Thanks for posting ...I was wondering what people's opinion
would be comparing Rat's and Mitchel's liepers ... I suppose by more uniform
in everything you mean appearance ,fighting style ,and probably reaction
during conditioning . Two questions for you if you don't mind me asking ,have
you ever blended your two family of liepers and since mike middleton has
quit selling fowl were could someone find good Mitchel's lieper bloodline for sell in us .... Thanks again for posting all opinions welcome
YFIS EDDIE

MILLPOND
April 4th, 2011, 10:23 AM
Rats are from Jimmy East Jr. I know of nothing he has added. I do know they swap brood fowl every few years.


Thompsom , I was mistaken the thread I was thinking about was coon kelso's
it mentioned new blood being added and then bred back out ... sorry about
that ... but am I right that rats and jimmy east jr. liepers bloodline is from
harold brown stock ??
Thanks YFIS EDDIE

Dos amigos
April 4th, 2011, 10:41 AM
Hello Milpond, Yes There is a couple of breeders that post pics of their Mitchel's Leipers in the Gamerooster forum one of them is Cottonwood and the other is Radio cock, Radio cock according to him he got some of the personal broodfowl out of Mr. Mitchel's pens. I am not a member of that forum. for some reason a have not been able to register there. wish I could get Radio's number his got some good looking Mitchel's the light hens will give you the darker roosters. This year I am breeding Rat's over Mitchel's , just to see what comes out of that cross.

yfis Dos Amigos.

MILLPOND
April 4th, 2011, 11:22 AM
Hello Milpond, Yes There is a couple of breeders that post pics of their Mitchel's Leipers in the Gamerooster forum one of them is Cottonwood and the other is Radio cock, Radio cock according to him he got some of the personal broodfowl out of Mr. Mitchel's pens. I am not a member of that forum. for some reason a have not been able to register there. wish I could get Radio's number his got some good looking Mitchel's the light hens will give you the darker roosters. This year I am breeding Rat's over Mitchel's , just to see what comes out of that cross.

yfis Dos Amigos.

Dos Amigos Thanks for the information .. I am a member on gamerooster forum and when I get of work tomorrow I'll pm Radio cock and see If I can get that number for you .. And thanks again for the reply
YFIS EDDIE

73maagap
April 4th, 2011, 11:44 AM
Hi mexican rooster , welcome Thanks for your post . I also like the liepers
from jimmy east jr. A very good bloodline . I believe that they can be traced
back to harold brown ,for sure jimmy east sr. bloodline does . Never seen any
Gary Gilliam liepers in action thanks for sharing your knowledge .
If you were to buy today which bloodline would you prefer or do you like your
blend the best...
Thanks YFIS EDDIE

i also got liepers from jeff hudspeth

MILLPOND
April 4th, 2011, 12:08 PM
i also got liepers from jeff hudspeth


Hi 73maagap , I have seen jeff hudspeth liepers personally ... the ones I watched were really strong strong cocks ..They seem to reach through
the legs of the other rooster and as the fight carried on they had the power
to drive the other rooster back . Do you happen to know the history of his
liepers
YFIS EDDIE

Thompson
April 4th, 2011, 09:58 PM
Yes, I know one family of his Leipers are from Harold Browns bloodlines.

coon
April 5th, 2011, 01:26 AM
I'll take the old Hammertime bloodlines over all the above.Not saying they are better than any of the above,personally they suit my needs more.Green legged roundheads.To keep it straight.Mr. Brooks aquired his Leipers from Mr.Mitchell and not sure what he added or did not add but they are superb fowl.I have heard that the fowl hes selling now is not as good but we got ours a few years back.

73maagap
April 5th, 2011, 02:19 AM
Hi 73maagap , I have seen jeff hudspeth liepers personally ... the ones I watched were really strong strong cocks ..They seem to reach through
the legs of the other rooster and as the fight carried on they had the power
to drive the other rooster back . Do you happen to know the history of his
liepers
YFIS EDDIE

no sir millpond i dont. thats what i was trying to find out on another thread. i just got some pullets from jeff and one of them was a lieper. i do appreciate the info. from your description, you seem to like their performance. would you recommend that bloodline for the long knife?

bully12
April 5th, 2011, 02:49 AM
http://multiply.com/mu/aprgamefarm/image/0/photos/73/600x600/4/DSCN2093.JPG?et=ukPhXQJj2fUun8nrIJgvTQ&nmid=412893594
rg leiper

MILLPOND
April 5th, 2011, 06:22 AM
http://multiply.com/mu/aprgamefarm/image/0/photos/73/600x600/4/DSCN2093.JPG?et=ukPhXQJj2fUun8nrIJgvTQ&nmid=412893594
rg leiper


great looking lieper looks just like mine but I think yours has a little better station than mine ... really like the look of yours
YFIS EDDIE

MILLPOND
April 5th, 2011, 06:32 AM
no sir millpond i dont. thats what i was trying to find out on another thread. i just got some pullets from jeff and one of them was a lieper. i do appreciate the info. from your description, you seem to like their performance. would you recommend that bloodline for the long knife?

sir 73maagap I have only seen them in short knife not the long but from
what I have seen first hand I would say they would make great long knife
cocks ... they are fast ,strong ,and break higher than mine .... If you already
have a hen I would try to get a cock in his bloodline .I think most cross using
cock side ...

MILLPOND
April 5th, 2011, 07:48 AM
Dos Amigos Thanks for the information .. I am a member on gamerooster forum and when I get of work tomorrow I'll pm Radio cock and see If I can get that number for you .. And thanks again for the reply
YFIS EDDIE

Dos Amigos sent radio cock a pm on gamerooster forum trying to get a contact number let you know when he pm's me back
YFIS EDDIE

bully12
April 5th, 2011, 10:57 AM
great looking lieper looks just like mine but I think yours has a little better station than mine ... really like the look of yours
YFIS EDDIE
thanks millpond,hes now a bullstag.

http://multiply.com/mu/aprgamefarm/image/5/photos/73/600x600/3/DSCN2090.JPG?et=V1Alo%2CTE6Dg4rqy1hB5KBg&nmid=412893594

73maagap
April 5th, 2011, 12:11 PM
sir 73maagap I have only seen them in short knife not the long but from
what I have seen first hand I would say they would make great long knife
cocks ... they are fast ,strong ,and break higher than mine .... If you already
have a hen I would try to get a cock in his bloodline .I think most cross using
cock side ...


thanks again sir millpond for the observation. now i have an idea of what might become of my planned cross with jeff's lieper.

MILLPOND
April 6th, 2011, 11:35 PM
Just an observation but my liepers are real gently as stags ,go through a keep nicely
Also as cocks are really great birds to work with ,diffidently not man fighters but hate
another rooster like no other breed on my yard .... The only time mine show aggression toward me is breeding season when I move the cock between my hens ,they are real protective of their hens .... I really the qualities and look for them in all new stock I consider ... HOW ABOUT YOUR LIEPERS is this true of your fowl ...
YFIS EDDIE

EAA Indians
April 7th, 2011, 01:32 AM
A member posted his Leiper fight video (at a Pinas derby) and the fight performance of his Leiper really impressed me. If I have to acquire another Leiper family, it will be his Leiper.

I can't remember the member's name.

gladiator
April 7th, 2011, 01:58 AM
I have rat's and cedar creeks leipers. Thinking of crossing them together next year.

La Parra329
April 7th, 2011, 03:04 AM
I have rat's and cedar creeks leipers. Thinking of crossing them together next year.

Is there a big difference between the two, or do they have the same qualities ?

MILLPOND
April 7th, 2011, 03:13 AM
A member posted his Leiper fight video (at a Pinas derby) and the fight performance of his Leiper really impressed me. If I have to acquire another Leiper family, it will be his Leiper.

I can't remember the member's name.

Hi EAA Indians , thanks for posting sir , just wondering do you know if it was
a straight bred lieper ,a blended lieper of two lieper family or a lieper cross...
Thanks YFIS EDDIE

easy goer
April 7th, 2011, 03:20 AM
I have the johnny mitchell line leipers. You can fight them pure in LK.

MILLPOND
April 7th, 2011, 03:50 AM
I have the johnny mitchell line leipers. You can fight them pure in LK.

Hi easy goer Thanks for posting about you johnny mitchel liepers . Since you
show your liepers in the LK my guess is not breaking higher or even than the other breeds is not a problem with your line ... Am I right about this or do they just power through the other rooster ???
Thanks YFIS EDDIE

easy goer
April 7th, 2011, 04:31 AM
They are high breaker hatches but depends in the situation. One thing i observed about them they know how to adjust in the fight. They fight like a roundheads. One of the smartest hatches i ever own. They have good or i say better cutting abilty. In terms of power they have decent power like most hatches.

MILLPOND
April 7th, 2011, 10:03 AM
They are high breaker hatches but depends in the situation. One thing i observed about them they know how to adjust in the fight. They fight like a roundheads. One of the smartest hatches i ever own. They have good or i say better cutting abilty. In terms of power they have decent power like most hatches.

Sir easy goer I agree that liepers are very smart hatches .. Even though different breeders bred to a different trait they all seem to carry the trait
of smartness ... I believe the man that bred my liepers focused on power
because #1 they the strongest hatch on my yard and #2 like me he showed
in gaff and sk ... and #3 mine don't break as high as the liepers that I've watched on the videos using the LK although once on the ground they all seem like you said to fight smart like a roundhead ... Thanks for your opinion
and your reply . YFIS EDDIE

gladiator
April 7th, 2011, 10:14 AM
Rats hatches seem to have a better break, but Jeffs seem to have a better bottom. This is why I think it will b a good cross to do. I'll find out in a couple of years if the laws permit us to keep our chickens down in tx.

MILLPOND
April 7th, 2011, 10:39 AM
Rats hatches seem to have a better break, but Jeffs seem to have a better bottom. This is why I think it will b a good cross to do. I'll find out in a couple of years if the laws permit us to keep our chickens down in tx.

Hi gladator , good luck with that law in texas .... did you get your liepers from jeff's farm in N.C. or from his brother earl's farm . same bloodlione just wondering who you dealt with ..

Ps really hope you fellows catch a break in texas

james a
April 8th, 2011, 10:11 AM
I got my leipers from Johnny Mitchell and have been showing them for awhile now and really like them,I think Rat Graves blended penny hatch with his,when Rat,Crowe Graves and Gary Gillam parted ways David Tanner out of Texas,bought all of Crowes Penny and Leiper hatch,he was the one out of the three who owned them,thats what i was told,and it came pretty straight.

gladiator
April 8th, 2011, 10:26 AM
I got mine from Jeff and tommy back in 2000. Pretty good birds.

Joealex
April 15th, 2011, 08:50 AM
i am about to buy this leiper Hatch bull stag from this mann. and i was wondering what i should brred it too? and some info on this leiper breed?? thanks

jjmccloud2011
April 18th, 2011, 05:27 AM
Has anyone ever has good luck using them are they better than the rat graves leipers

redbreeder
April 18th, 2011, 08:56 AM
Mr. Butch is correct as Johnny did get the Leiper from Percy Flowers of Pineville farm. The Leiper according to Johnny at their best was the DARK RED ones, he had those he called the 92's.....according to Johnny, they were called this as their winning percentage was that number of that particular mating. He did at one time breed Grey into them. The Grey came from Lane Arrington, Johnny saw Lane show some of the little green leg silver grey's and wanted some. They traded grey for Leiper and Lane got them bred up and done real well with them. Johnny bred them in and out of the Leiper I think, someone else might know more about it than me. I am sharing what I know from Lane-Jimmy, the Grey is E W Law green leg from Harold Brown to Lane.....

john parsons
April 19th, 2011, 11:10 AM
hey guys, what would u guys say is the best cross, but i have a buddy who crossed a roundhead with a lieper and gave him some great cocks, he entered to a 7 cock derby and they did great, with 5 wins, and a draw, and only one loss.

coug0000
April 19th, 2011, 11:46 AM
i have the mitchell line got two yrs. ago from middleton , crossing them three way's
over albany hens (Johnson) and straight over matching hen and over radio from middleton ...

so far have been good i personally feel that the radio leipers are my favorite they can side step or go up or just go right @ you but you always see that vigor towards the other birds, also don't reach as much as the pure ones . I am not ready to call them aces but 1 more year of trying them out and if it continues i wouls say so, i can't complain with the brood fowl excellent specimen to tinker with. that is my experience with this line of leipers

JericP
April 19th, 2011, 02:52 PM
I got my leiper from Ronie MIller peacomd and straightcomb his leiper direct come from Curtis blackwell so far I got good result from straightcomb out 14 ... 12 wins 2 draw...

her his the video 22 month old pure leiper straightcomb





YouTube - 66. SM NJR v Toto Owen

right side liepier cross



http://jepad.multiply.com/video/item/168/MOV05822.MPG


Pure Lieper

http://jepad.multiply.com/video/item/163/MOV05828.MPG

moseley
April 19th, 2011, 08:04 PM
http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee446/moseley1/DSC012531024x683.jpg

my mitchells aint very smart. they are real aggressive ant just want to hurt something. lol

keysaw
April 19th, 2011, 09:47 PM
i have the middelton and they are real good i am impressed im crossing them with my roy brady grey

jjmccloud2011
April 20th, 2011, 06:55 AM
Who's leiper blood is it johnny mitchell, rat graves, etc
I have the johnny mitchell leipers and am crossing them on sweater greys, sid blacks, and my old bates hatch cock

Matt Dunne
April 20th, 2011, 07:18 AM
Why Cross them??? why not straight breed them and fight them? Any bloodline that can not win straight bred In my opinion is not worth keeping. When you do cross the traits of lines that can win straightbred the offspring are awsome.

Hope this helps you

Cheers

jjmccloud2011
April 20th, 2011, 07:21 AM
Anybody ever got the johnny mitchell leipers from bill covington at rambler farms i recently purchased a "proven trio" from him and i am very pleased so far with them im just now getting chicks hatching cant wait to see how they turn out also mine are green legged and pea comb

point remove
April 20th, 2011, 09:00 AM
Why Cross them??? why not straight breed them and fight them? Any bloodline that can not win straight bred In my opinion is not worth keeping. When you do cross the traits of lines that can win straightbred the offspring are awsome.

Hope this helps you

Cheers

Exactly!! Try and get you a hen and single mate you some stags then see what you got.

james a
April 20th, 2011, 09:46 AM
i am about to buy this leiper Hatch bull stag from this mann. and i was wondering what i should brred it too? and some info on this leiper breed?? thanksListen to Matt Dunne,he is telling you the right way.

jjmccloud2011
April 20th, 2011, 10:39 AM
Cause i like to cross them too that way i know which lines of mine they'll nick with incase i ever need to add new blood or in case i ever decide to take on the project of making my own line then ill know if i have anything in my own yard to work with know what i mean and your 100% right about being pure if they ain't no count straight bred there's no room on my yard for them especially since i have very limited space i like em straight bred but i also like to have a line or two on the side they'll nick with

aemartinez
April 20th, 2011, 11:14 AM
leiper hatch http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv108/08-02-59/2nd%20album%2012-12-10/shamos012.jpg

james a
April 23rd, 2011, 11:06 AM
i have the middelton and they are real good i am impressed im crossing them with my roy brady greyI put some photos of my fowl on here if any one wants to look at them and tell me what you think,I am going to post some more photosand inculde some of my hens.

gallohombre
April 23rd, 2011, 11:30 AM
rat and crowe both crossed theres with penny for battle fowl they also put a little shot of kelso blood in them for alittle more cut.

deadgamefarm
April 25th, 2011, 02:05 AM
http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n484/weedhillGF/Resize_Photo-01381000009.jpg

http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n484/weedhillGF/Resize_Photo-0142100000A.jpg

deadgamefarm
April 25th, 2011, 02:10 AM
looks like he has some asil in him or something. anybody got any ideas?
i was just told he was a hatch, figured he was a leiper.
oh, plus he was in a short knife fight, thats why hes all tore up, said he had a broke wing, but it looks like its working fine to me, strictly brood fowl now, just wanting to know if hes what i think he is. he had a white feather that broke off from under his wing. and hes got really fat legs. your guess is better than mine.

ironchef
April 25th, 2011, 02:26 AM
We will never know, all that is said is that this guy is of a hatch blood! to me he is just a pea-combed blue or green legged red! your source will give you the specifics, otherwise, all we can do is guess.

OREVON
April 25th, 2011, 02:31 AM
he's a crossed fowl...........look at his legs it's dirty white probably a cross of a roundhead to a hatch because of it's pea comb:confused:

point remove
April 25th, 2011, 03:49 AM
he's a crossed fowl...........look at his legs it's dirty white probably a cross of a roundhead to a hatch because of it's pea comb:confused:

Exactly what I was thinking but not a good picture!! My leipers do have some white in the wing but not full feathers just a few if the tips are white. But they real green legged.

Roberts44903
April 25th, 2011, 04:41 AM
He reminds me of the Buck Stancell hatch. Once in awhile you get a straight come one or one with white them. He could be a cross but, if I am not mistaken all fowl of today is made up of crosses.

Bloodsport
April 25th, 2011, 05:14 AM
Buck Stancell correct me if I am wrong would that be gavilan hatch? thanks

Roberts44903
April 25th, 2011, 05:35 AM
Buck Stancell correct me if I am wrong would that be gavilan hatch? thanks


Do not get Buck confused with the junk Johnny peddles. Buck is Johnny dad so yes the Gavilan hatch. In my opinion they are not even close to the same fowl. I have seen first hand what comes from there well from Johnny. Seen a guy order 12 pure gavilan hatch cocks. Only 1 proved to game like the old one Buck used to raise. Then 6 of them cocks had black blood in them.

If you got the old time Buck Stancell blood then you got helluva hatch rooster.

point remove
April 25th, 2011, 06:35 AM
Do not get Buck confused with the junk Johnny peddles. Buck is Johnny dad so yes the Gavilan hatch. In my opinion they are not even close to the same fowl. I have seen first hand what comes from there well from Johnny. Seen a guy order 12 pure gavilan hatch cocks. Only 1 proved to game like the old one Buck used to raise. Then 6 of them cocks had black blood in them.

If you got the old time Buck Stancell blood then you got helluva hatch rooster.

I have heard rumors of people pitting them hatch a few years ago and they would break head high but if they got hit they would just keep on flying!!

point remove
April 25th, 2011, 06:40 AM
http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n484/weedhillGF/Resize_Photo-01381000009.jpg

http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n484/weedhillGF/Resize_Photo-0142100000A.jpg

It is nice to know what blood line you are breeding but names are just something to call them when your friends ask!! Breed him and if you like what u get then call them what you want!!

jjmccloud2011
April 25th, 2011, 06:28 PM
Mine are green legged and pea combed whats the difference between them and all these blue legged ones i see?

Dinky Mug
April 25th, 2011, 07:44 PM
What is the blood composition of this Leiper Hatch & how they play in the pit?

Roberts44903
April 25th, 2011, 10:41 PM
I have heard rumors of people pitting them hatch a few years ago and they would break head high but if they got hit they would just keep on flying!!

It would not surprise me. With gameness you can not settle for maybe game this day. LOL

I remember reading in a gamecock long time ago about where Buck made a mistake in his broodpens and all of the offspring from 2 broodpens came spangle. What happened was he was flock breeding 1 cock to 10 hens. All the hens was sisters and the cocks brothers. Now pen A was supposed to have 10 sisters in and a unrelated cock. Pen B was supposed to be same way. Well cocks got switched and there they are spangle. They discarded all of them because they did not fit what they should look like. I know 1 guy who has them and the guy he got them from. I told him to save me 2 pullets for this fall. Them was supposed to be some of the very best hatch cocks to leave that place.

gallohombre
April 26th, 2011, 01:35 AM
Does the hatch rooster in the pic have any markings?

jjmccloud2011
May 5th, 2011, 12:00 AM
I wonder if ramblerfarm has "pure" johnny mitchell blood and where he got his i hopefully the blood is somewhat close to the real mitchell leipers but none the less im satisfied with the one's i got from there Mr. Covington seems like a great guy he give me exactly what i ask for and will be a return customer i definitely think i got my moneys worth just hoping they'll produce offspring just as good. Only time will tell!!!

Bloodsport
May 5th, 2011, 01:12 AM
interesting story. I would like to hear more of this story if I can. thanks again folks

lurena
May 5th, 2011, 05:06 AM
The Leiper according to Johnny at their best was the DARK RED ones
Absolutely correct. The right nose leipers are the better ones. They are more like a leiper roundhead cross. Fast footed side step and cut better than the six marker leiper. The six marker leiper are more like the typical hatch looking fowl. They shuffle more and seem to cut less. Anyways, if you cross the right nose with the six marker lieper you get excellent birds.

super fly
May 5th, 2011, 09:58 AM
Butch can you shed some insight as to the blood that made up the original Leipers. I know they are not Hatches as some old timers would cringe when people call them Leiper Hatch. I have some that are of the old Jimmy East Sr. Leipers and they are hellacious roosters...LOL

sucess gamefarm
May 5th, 2011, 01:09 PM
I know irishcutt know slot about these liepers I seen as old thread on leaflets that he shared lot of info all I know is the ones with the black eye liner look are close to the original and the better ones from my understanding

rialog
May 5th, 2011, 02:26 PM
this is my half paul webster mclean hatch half percy flower leiper
from warparty of texas
http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv9/hatchpower/AURORA%20GOLD%20GAMEFARM%20OTHER%20HATCH%20AND%20C ROSSES/warpartyhatchbroodcock1.jpg
nice fowl...

kali ises
May 5th, 2011, 03:05 PM
super fly, could be wrong but i think brownred & kearney cross, someone once said it had nigger blood?? from a breeder in tenn, have a leiper/democrat cross, been breeding that the last couple of yrs.

Cutting Edge
May 6th, 2011, 12:53 AM
Was told by an old tmier in NY (got his Leipers from one who bred for the Judge over 50 years ago) that Leipers are basically Kearney Whitehackle - John Stone Brown Red cross, one article I read was that it is of pure Kearney blood (whitehackle and brown red), and some say they added some boston rh blood. Whatever it actually is, we may never know but one thing is certain they are great birds

jjmccloud2011
May 6th, 2011, 11:22 PM
What color of pullet do they throw are they all the bb red hatch color of hens or will they throw light comoros hens too?

HatchGrey57
May 30th, 2011, 10:11 AM
I'm looking for some very good and game leiper hatch. What gamefarm has the best and where are they located? Thanks post pics if possible

oxfarm
May 30th, 2011, 10:21 AM
Hatch Village of Mr. David Lean Graves " RAT " in Oklahoma no better than this Leipers !!!!,

victor
May 30th, 2011, 10:47 AM
Khazimline, Kogmohon, me , August Molina, and many others here in the P.I that got from Hatch Vilage (rat graves) has NOT done good at all with this leiper in the P.I LK.
Maybe you will do good in the SK...
Also most of ours will come spraddle legs when 2 years. I can send pics of the spraddle legs if you want just to show proof.

You might want to try the hammer time variety.

Best,
Victor

RickC
May 30th, 2011, 11:10 AM
Try to Call Jeff Hudspeth of Cedar Creek in NC.

Carole Nesmith of Blackwater Farms can vouch for his Leipers as one of the best out there.

I have Jeff's Leipers for years and these are the main foundations of my crosses.
I like them for their smarts and excellent cutting.
We just won part champs of the Cebu Mandawe Annual Fiesta 4C Derby fighting pure and crosses of these with Kelso.

They are not speeders but can sure cut and very calculating.

RickC

El ace
May 30th, 2011, 11:21 AM
I agree with RickC i also have them and they are execellant birds

harry
May 30th, 2011, 09:00 PM
i have done well with my leiper hatch cross to my ray hoskin ylh (sanford) in cock and stag derbies... the pure leiper is offbeat style some say they are late maturing but i dont think mine is late maturing as stags they show good ability i am happy with them so far my leiper-ylh cross 9wins 1loss already in stag derbies...

o my leiper is rat graves variety from kogmohon

aemartinez
May 31st, 2011, 03:40 AM
leiper hatch http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv108/08-02-59/2nd%20album%2012-12-10/blackhennies077.jpg

El ace
May 31st, 2011, 03:53 AM
http://sabong.net.ph/forum/picture.php?pictureid=3898&albumid=577&dl=1306784185&thumb=1 (http://sabong.net.ph/forum/album.php?albumid=577&pictureid=3898) CEDAR CREEK LIEPER

El ace
May 31st, 2011, 03:58 AM
http://sabong.net.ph/forum/picture.php?pictureid=3899&albumid=577&dl=1306784557&thumb=1

El ace
May 31st, 2011, 04:03 AM
http://sabong.net.ph/forum/picture.php?albumid=577&pictureid=3897

Santana
May 31st, 2011, 04:14 AM
My trio of Hatch village line:

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb6/gamsai/TrioRat.jpg

Saludos
IGS

HatchGrey57
May 31st, 2011, 12:16 PM
Thanks everyone....Has anyone heard of Jimmy East Leipers?

Outlaw greys
May 31st, 2011, 12:26 PM
Jimmy east leipers are tough if you can get the real ones!!!!!

HatchGrey57
May 31st, 2011, 12:30 PM
What is the price on jimmy east fowl? Eggs,hens,trios.

WiNeReD
May 31st, 2011, 12:47 PM
Ive read somewhere that liepers aren't hatches and they evolved from blacks. Maybe someone who knows the history better,, could share this info....

JearAaron
June 1st, 2011, 06:04 PM
i've got chickens, the breeder called them Leiper,
how would i classify them if its true?

HatchGrey57
June 23rd, 2011, 12:52 PM
I need a leiper pullet to freshen up my leiper blood. I was lending toward Rat Graves or Jeff Hudspeth Leipers. Any recommendations? Thanks

Gamecocker91
June 23rd, 2011, 01:18 PM
go with rat graves thats what i have and wouldnt have them any diff

Copycat
June 23rd, 2011, 02:59 PM
Jeff's Leipers are of Johnny Mitchell line.

Roundhead808
June 23rd, 2011, 03:03 PM
I heard that leipers are not hatches..they were so called NGR roundheads if im not mistaken, correct me if im wrong...what made this bloodline that made the leipers and who was the originator of this blood...thanks.

Copycat
June 23rd, 2011, 03:25 PM
Judge Leiper. They may contain KWH, Kearney Brownred and some pinch of grey bloods.
The Mitchell Leipers are not the hatch-type, with some grey blood infusion.
The Graves Leipers are of hatch-type, with some hatch blood infusion.

This is what I know of the Leiper's origin.

HatchGrey57
June 24th, 2011, 12:00 AM
Is Bill Morris leipers same as Graves?

Laguan
June 24th, 2011, 12:07 AM
Rat's Leiper breaks higher and more atheltic, however the Mitchell type is more game.

El ace
June 24th, 2011, 12:13 AM
http://sabong.net.ph/forum/picture.php?albumid=577&pictureid=3898

El ace
June 24th, 2011, 12:24 AM
This is one of my lieper stags from cedar creek

lurena
June 24th, 2011, 12:31 AM
HatchGrey, what type of leiper do you have? Do you have the fast footed type or do you have the hard shuffling type?

HatchGrey57
June 24th, 2011, 01:27 AM
I have the fast footed type.

countrstrk
June 24th, 2011, 02:03 AM
I have the fast footed type.


does any body know who has the best lieper hatch in PI..

lurena
June 24th, 2011, 03:19 AM
I have the fast footed type.

Get the Johnny Mitchell Right Nose Hatch. It is a leiper with 1/16 regular grey in it. They are fast footed break High, they side step and they cut really good. When these fowl are born they are yellow and then turn dark black or red. When they are young they look like a grey. Don't confuse them with the six marker Johnny Mitchell hatch. That is the other Johnny Mitchell Leiper. They are dark in color with a dark ring around the eyes. These are the power leipers. These have alot of bottom and shuffle alot. These bill hold. In my opinion these are gaff fowl and seem to cut less with the knife. Thats my personal opinion.

blades61
June 24th, 2011, 03:26 AM
i have ruble that will sometimes come looking like the leiper,real dark red and dark green legs.

banate
June 24th, 2011, 11:49 AM
http://sabong.net.ph/forum/picture.php?albumid=577&pictureid=3898

very good looking leiper. here's a sparring of the one i got from crow graves: http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1838935300293

james a
June 24th, 2011, 12:07 PM
I need a leiper pullet to freshen up my leiper blood. I was lending toward Rat Graves or Jeff Hudspeth Leipers. Any recommendations? ThanksHatchGrey57,if you want to look at my profile and my Leipers and see what you think.

reslingblade
June 24th, 2011, 04:17 PM
Any body knows jimmy East lieper

808kelso
June 24th, 2011, 05:14 PM
http://sabong.net.ph/forum/picture.php?albumid=577&pictureid=3898
Nice how's the style ? Can any one give info on the fighting style of jeffs liepers thanks

808kelso
June 24th, 2011, 05:19 PM
:DGuess I did it wrong el ace nice bird:D

OREVON
June 24th, 2011, 05:35 PM
at the age of exactly 1 year old......already a 3x winner with slight scratches only

1/2 hi-action hatch (broodcock from Wilson Ong of Octagon) 1/2 leiper (broodhen from boy diaz) - acquired from pareng berniev

some brothers left at pareng berniev's farm are also now winners

combination of speed, power and cutting.........

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy15/orevonbros/hatch.jpg

aemartinez
June 24th, 2011, 07:15 PM
leiper http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv108/08-02-59/2nd%20album%2012-12-10/shamos012.jpg

moseley
June 24th, 2011, 08:44 PM
Get the Johnny Mitchell Right Nose Hatch. It is a leiper with 1/16 regular grey in it. They are fast footed break High, they side step and they cut really good. When these fowl are born they are yellow and then turn dark black or red. When they are young they look like a grey. Don't confuse them with the six marker Johnny Mitchell hatch. That is the other Johnny Mitchell Leiper. They are dark in color with a dark ring around the eyes. These are the power leipers. These have alot of bottom and shuffle alot. These bill hold. In my opinion these are gaff fowl and seem to cut less with the knife. Thats my personal opinion.

good description. thanks for the info. i must have the six marker line cause mine aint smart at all but are real hearty. they aint very slow but they could use a little more smarts and hold their head back more. also i like the way you payed attention to the chicks, good supervision.

El ace
June 25th, 2011, 03:22 AM
Thank you sir banate i like how they sparr

gamefowl84
June 28th, 2011, 09:45 PM
Any History about these Strain please how me the threads.......

Butch Inson
June 28th, 2011, 10:26 PM
Hello Brad hope this will help your queries about leiper. regards Butch inson



It is thought the original Hatch was bred by Judge Leiper, not Sandy Hatch, as most people believe. They were supposed to be a Kearney Whitehackle and a Kearney Brown Red cross. Leiper also bred a cock from Duryea. In 1900 Hatch got some dark red, green legged fowl from Cassidy (some say Lynch). He bred a black red cock from Jerry Genet, of New York. This Genet Pyle cock was bred over the Cassidy (Lynch) hens, and this was the starting of the Hatch fowl. In 1933, Hennie Mathesius went to work for Hatch and carried his fowl with him. These fowl were Morgan Whitehackles, some Lowman blood, and some Gull/Morgan crosses. Some of these were crossed on the Hatch fowl. Hatch gave all of his fowl to Mathesius, who later sold them to C.C. Cooke, who soon after that became a partner of E.W. Law.

Butch Inson
June 28th, 2011, 10:31 PM
Cont..


We must give Cooke the credit for the Hatch fowl that we have today. J.D. Perry made the first niche with Cooke's Hatch, but that is what Cooke paid him for. It would be too long and complicated to write a complete history of all the different blood lines and different Hatches and their blood lines, but as to ours, the Holcomb Hatch, we will try to make it very brief, and not any more confusing than possible.
We started out with a Ruble Hatch cock, over a Sweater McGinnis (Blue Face) hen. At the same time, we bred a Democrat cock over J.D. Perry hen. Then we bred the off-spring of these two together, making their off-spring 1/4 Ruble, 1/4 Democrat, 1/4 Blue Face and 1/4 Perry. At the same time of the above breeding, we bred in another pen, a Chocolate Gray cock over a jet black Aseel hen, (directly from Pakastan, and one of the very best strains of Aseel), thus giving 1/2 Chocolate Grey and 1/2 Aseel. This we crossed over the four kinds of Hatch, giving 1/2 Hatch, 1/4 Chocolate Grey and 1/4 Aseel for the first year. Then we bred back to the Hatch saide, father over daughter and son over mother, thus giving 3/4 Hatch, 1/8 Chocolate Grey and 1/8 Aseel. We keep three pens of this combination, and this we proudly call our Holcomb Hatch.

Maning
June 29th, 2011, 07:27 AM
The Judge and his fowl--the Leipers ARE NOT Hatch fowl in any shape,fashion or form,Judge Leiper despised Sanderford Hatch and even thought less of his fowl,however,it was Judge Leiper who bred those winning cocks for Mr.Hatch and also for Ted McLean,I have letters written to my great grandfather and my great Uncle from Judge Leiper,His "Leipers" were made from crossing an Irish Brownred cock over a Kearney whitehackle hen, then he crossed a Boston RH over those pullets and bred back to a BR/Wh cock...He would roll over and vomit in his grave hearing his fowl mentioned in the same sentence as wanna be chicken men such as Hatch or McLean...

1handkneehigh (http://sabong.net.ph/forum/member.php?u=12806)




Any History about these Strain please how me the threads.......

gamefowl84
June 30th, 2011, 11:26 AM
Thanks all of your showing me your threads ...show your Leiper pictures ..anyways my leiper are really fast fowl hitten hard and a lot of legs. show more thread up up PLEASE!!!

CockerOfTheYear
July 13th, 2011, 11:23 AM
I'm looking for good leiper hatch in the states please post pics.

Falkor
July 13th, 2011, 11:44 AM
Are you looking for a leiper or a hatch?

CockerOfTheYear
July 13th, 2011, 11:53 AM
leiper sorry.............................

Gamecocker91
July 13th, 2011, 11:58 AM
Rat graves has some good uns we havem and they do really well for us, were sold out as of right now though the people lovem,

calebmitchell
July 13th, 2011, 12:04 PM
Whether a leiper is or isn't a hatch, EVERYBODY knows what you're talking about.
leiper sorry.............................

JCollins
July 13th, 2011, 12:06 PM
Rambler farms have some nice looken Leiper chickens hes got a site i ant got them but i herd they was good

Falkor
July 13th, 2011, 12:39 PM
Whether a leiper is or isn't a hatch, EVERYBODY knows what you're talking about.

Oh hell I was just poking fun, my apologies, I'll put my serious face back on for you.

OR GALLO
July 13th, 2011, 05:22 PM
Hammer time had some great leipers. Bought some that were crossed on grey, and McLean that were double barrel aces like he said. Not sure if he still sells this was quite a while ago.

moseley
July 13th, 2011, 06:06 PM
http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee446/moseley1/DSC012531024x683.jpg

http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee446/moseley1/DSC01256.jpg

Rambler has good ones.

JCollins
July 13th, 2011, 11:59 PM
http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee446/moseley1/DSC012531024x683.jpg

http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee446/moseley1/DSC01256.jpg

Rambler has good ones.



Did u get those from Rambler

moseley
July 14th, 2011, 12:23 AM
Did u get those from Rambler

yes direct

GallodMich
July 14th, 2011, 01:35 AM
hey moseley thats a nice good looking hen

JCollins
July 14th, 2011, 03:43 AM
I just got his pinnons this year and the ones he sent me were awsome but he did say good thing about the leipers have u had them long

OldAl
July 14th, 2011, 04:53 AM
Does he sell claret ?Is he Herman Pinnon nephew?

moseley
July 14th, 2011, 04:59 AM
thanks gallodmich but rambler breed her, glad i got her though.

oldal i think bruce jones is hermans nephew. rambler was just someone that went to hermans and got fowl a couple times.

OldAl
July 14th, 2011, 05:04 AM
Yeaj thats right I remember the name Bruce jones,Also just looked at rambler website,sounds like he really likes the Pinnons.

Drake D
July 14th, 2011, 05:15 AM
Mr. bill morris has the best leiper hatch roosters in the us

OldAl
July 14th, 2011, 05:17 AM
Did you get any from him Drake?

209Albany
July 14th, 2011, 06:48 AM
Bill Morris has junk ! That's all he sent us for price we paid. We bought the leiper and blueface hatch. Waste of time and money.

El ace
July 14th, 2011, 08:01 AM
Jeff hudspeth has good liepers i have em and we do good with them

PixleyRoundhead
July 14th, 2011, 08:06 AM
We got Bill morris leipers they are high fliyers and shuffle all the way down

coyoacan
July 14th, 2011, 09:14 AM
Are you looking for a leiper or a hatch?

Aren't leipers hatch? I have never heard an explanation on this and I would like to know.thanks

alamojess
July 14th, 2011, 10:32 AM
Has anybody got any from bayou city farms???

Rhosig1
July 14th, 2011, 11:06 AM
hatch village got the best leiper at this time!!!

McDaddyMcrae808
July 14th, 2011, 11:43 AM
Aren't leipers hatch? I have never heard an explanation on this and I would like to know.thanks

All I know that the fact LEIPERS have nigguh roundhead blood in them but I wanna know what else blood created the Leiper..

coon
July 14th, 2011, 07:57 PM
We have the Hammertimes.If there is any better out there,i would love to have them.

lurena
July 15th, 2011, 12:04 AM
We have the Hammertimes.If there is any better out there,i would love to have them.

Coon do you have the dark looking leipers or the light ones? What do you cross yours with?

Falkor
July 15th, 2011, 01:55 AM
Aren't leipers hatch? I have never heard an explanation on this and I would like to know.thanks

This is all I could find on the subject........



[[It is thought the original Hatch was bred by Judge Leiper, not Sandy Hatch, as most people believe. They were supposed to be a Kearney Whitehackle and a Kearney Brown Red cross. Leiper also bred a cock from Duryea. In 1900 Hatch got some dark red, green legged fowl from Cassidy (some say Lynch). He bred a black red cock from Jerry Genet, of New York. This Genet Pyle cock was bred over the Cassidy (Lynch) hens, and this was the starting of the Hatch fowl. In 1933, Hennie Mathesius went to work for Hatch and carried his fowl with him. These fowl were Morgan Whitehackles, some Lowman blood, and some Gull/Morgan crosses. Some of these were crossed on the Hatch fowl. Hatch gave all of his fowl to Mathesius, who later sold them to C.C. Cooke, who soon after that became a partner of E.W. Law.
We must give Cooke the credit for the Hatch fowl that we have today. J.D. Perry made the first niche with Cooke's Hatch, but that is what Cooke paid him for. It would be too long and complicated to write a complete history of all the different blood lines and different Hatches and their blood lines.]]


If this account is correct, Leipers came before the original Hatch fowl as bred by Sandy Hatch and later by Mr. Cooke.

peter manglo
July 15th, 2011, 02:45 AM
hatch village got the best leiper at this time!!!

El ace
July 15th, 2011, 04:09 AM
http://sabong.net.ph/forum/picture.php?albumid=577&pictureid=3897 my lieper hen from cedar creek

coon
July 15th, 2011, 04:56 AM
Our Leipers are dark,but not the ones called black leipers.they have crossed great on my asil,roundhead and other hatch families.

BamaOkie
July 15th, 2011, 05:44 AM
Buddy of mine gave me some Johnny Mitchell Leipers. They have a style more of a Roundhead or pea head Kelso. Very atheltic & fast! If they pan out well I may have something VERY special:)
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy5/gsa1fan/birds/youngXYZfowl6-11-2011019.jpg
http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy5/gsa1fan/birds/youngXYZfowl6-11-2011018.jpg

rocklee
July 15th, 2011, 01:01 PM
I seen some at richard Kelly's place that look very good which he acquired from mr. Smith...

JericP
July 15th, 2011, 05:15 PM
3/4 mclean 1/4 leiper stag..


http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o167/jericp/DSC_3053.jpg


http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o167/jericp/DSC_3046.jpg


http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o167/jericp/DSC_3047.jpg

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o167/jericp/DSC_3050.jpg

JericP
July 15th, 2011, 05:20 PM
3/4 mclean 1/4 leiper Stag...

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o167/jericp/DSC_3055.jpg


http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o167/jericp/DSC_3081.jpg



http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o167/jericp/DSC_3116.jpg

JericP
July 15th, 2011, 05:33 PM
3/4 mclean 1/4 leiper Stag

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o167/jericp/DSC_3109.jpg

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o167/jericp/DSC_3110.jpg


http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o167/jericp/DSC_3114.jpg


Pure Leiper stag and Pullets

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o167/jericp/DSC_3041.jpg


Pure Leiper 22 month old..

‪66. SM NJR v Toto Owen‬‏ - YouTube

Georgia_clarets
August 22nd, 2011, 10:47 AM
just sharing my Hatch Village leiper

http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af103/oxfarm/gallinaleiper.jpg

I have a leiper hen that looks just like her. I love that pattern and color.

silver2dmoon
August 22nd, 2011, 10:55 AM
Yes, this one looks exactly like the J.East Leipers I saw at my friends farm. Very quick, lots of stretched out feet, very agressive.


leiper hatch http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv108/08-02-59/2nd%20album%2012-12-10/shamos012.jpg

Georgia_clarets
August 23rd, 2011, 02:20 AM
I'm looking for a Leiper pullet from good stock. Any recommendations? I'd prefer it to be in the southeastern US as I want to pick her out personally.

yis, GC

harry
August 23rd, 2011, 03:26 AM
RAT GRAVES LEIPER STAG
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss278/hargab/hargableiper.jpg

d pirate
August 24th, 2011, 01:31 AM
taas lang at natatabunan;

flarreyeye
August 24th, 2011, 04:35 AM
Does anyone still breed Mr. Howard Suttles Leipers?

A friend of mine was reared near Mr. Suttles and had his Leipers. Mr. Suttles told him that the Judge said they were a combination of Brown Red, Whitehackle, and Roundhead but didn't say what type. Mr. Suttles always bred a yellow leg roundhead Leiper each year but we normally thing of them as green legged fowl only.

Georgia_clarets
August 25th, 2011, 03:43 AM
What part of the country was he from? I am going to see a guy in TN about some Leipers next week. I will ask about the Suttles.

zoe rei
August 25th, 2011, 04:21 AM
J mitchell leiper


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSfuZ-N-yHQ&feature=player_embedded#!

flarreyeye
August 25th, 2011, 04:58 AM
What part of the country was he from? I am going to see a guy in TN about some Leipers next week. I will ask about the Suttles.

Palmetto, Georgia, if I'm not mistaken. Harold Brown received his Leipers from Mr. Suttles.

Georgia_clarets
August 26th, 2011, 07:36 AM
Palmetto, Georgia, if I'm not mistaken. Harold Brown received his Leipers from Mr. Suttles.

Check with Irishcutt. He is a member of this site. His family was close friends with Mr. Suttle. I believe they have his Leipers.

Good luck!

yis, GA claret

goldcobra
August 26th, 2011, 08:11 AM
tony rogers in south carolina has really good leipers. i think they are the old ronnie howerton line

nutflush
September 7th, 2011, 05:08 AM
anyone knows telephone number of Crow graves pls. send me a pm pls.thanks

Gamecocker91
September 7th, 2011, 08:15 AM
to everyone pure leipers are 100 percent pea comb, if they are str8 combed they are not pure and thats a proven fact,ive been around leipers all my life, and know mostly all the high name breeders with pure stock so do your research before you purchase fowl,,learn about them first or you will end up with crosses

lugafarm
September 7th, 2011, 08:55 AM
to everyone pure leipers are 100 percent pea comb, if they are str8 combed they are not pure and thats a proven fact,ive been around leipers all my life, and know mostly all the high name breeders with pure stock so do your research before you purchase fowl,,learn about them first or you will end up with crosses

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flarreyeye
September 7th, 2011, 09:07 AM
to everyone pure leipers are 100 percent pea comb, if they are str8 combed they are not pure and thats a proven fact,ive been around leipers all my life, and know mostly all the high name breeders with pure stock so do your research before you purchase fowl,,learn about them first or you will end up with crosses


I would disagree. I fought the Howard Suttles Leipers for 15 years. They came straight and peacomb. Mr. Suttles was known for his Leiper.