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September 16th, 2003, 10:15 PM
This question comes from another popular website.Which one come first male or female in naming crosses. Example: Sweater (female) X Albany (male) or vice versa. What does make sense to you guys? Thank you response.
September 17th, 2003, 01:30 AM
I tend to think the second name is the main strain, while the first name is the secondary strain. For example a Sweater Roundhead means it is a Roundhead with some (less than 50%) Sweater. A Roundhead Sweater is other way around. We are speaking English here. In most other languages, it's the opposite. When it's 50/50, it can be called either way.
So I think the corrrect way would be to have the hen strain as the main (second) name, because the cock/hen % in the offsprings is around 30/70 (we tend to use 50/50 for easy calculation, especially when we later breed father to daughters, then grandfather to granddaughters, or mother to son, etc...).
But in most cases, people name their fowls after their brood cocks. Why? Because men rule. :lol:
September 18th, 2003, 02:43 PM
Anytime I name a cross I put the Cock side before the hen.
September 19th, 2003, 07:30 AM
me too :teeth:
September 22nd, 2003, 05:21 AM
positive side first... so i agree with Gallos and bob White.
......wife will use husband's name
......always start the winning record ( W - L )
......when measuring, always write the longest side first
.....and a lot more
.....but doesn't matter actually, it can be vice versa in cockfighting
but it's important--- always obey the golden rule
September 25th, 2003, 01:44 PM
I agree with GL all the way! Male Bloodline x Female Bloodline.
EX. Lemon84(M) x RH(F)
September 25th, 2003, 03:41 PM
Generally speaking, I agree with the others (M/F) but there are exceptions.
For instance, Hatch/Kelso's. Even if I use Kelso cock over Hatch hen I call them Hatch/Kelso's because it sounds better. :p
Same thing goes for Kelso/Roundheads. It just sounds better.
September 26th, 2003, 02:59 AM
You are right. I often hear "Hatch Roundhead", but I have never heard "Roundhead Hatch." It just does not roll off the tongue quite smoothly. So in cases like this, the male/female order does not apply.
September 26th, 2003, 01:54 PM
We may be wrong new2, but our cross names sound better!
September 26th, 2003, 02:23 PM
in my opinion we begin with the word hatch because it is mostly the solid foundation blood of every breeder.what we infuse into them takes the second position in name breeding.the first name attach depends mostly on what foundation blood a breeder is using.;)
September 28th, 2003, 07:57 AM
for clarity, i think it is better for a poster to say so and so cock x so and so hen. this will avoid the reader guessing who is male and who is female.
May 2nd, 2006, 11:11 PM
May 2nd, 2006, 11:54 PM
When I asked that question to some of the big time breeders, they all answered: Cock x Hen...... :blush:
May 3rd, 2006, 01:39 PM
I guess there is NO Gen rule for naming X's. You just have to ask specifically the breeder which goes first hen or male chicken. Its just a matter of preference and how it sound right sometimes.
May 3rd, 2006, 06:08 PM
as what they've said...... if it is a 50/50 cross, then the more superior bloodline gets the first name...... say a kelso x hatch = Hatch-Kelso.....
but suppose you now have a 3/4 kelso x 1/4 hatch...... then it is better to call it Kelso-Hatch...... rather than the opposite...
just as what some of the old folks are tellin' me;) ... of course that might not be true......
May 3rd, 2006, 09:15 PM
its just d same.........for me:cool:
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