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armelmanipol
October 11th, 2007, 07:47 PM
meron ba kayo alam na vitamins pampaitlog ng manok para makapag early breed?

hanes
October 12th, 2007, 08:17 AM
Taas lang natin, maron kaya vitamins na ganito kasi kailangan ko rin itong season na ito.

strike
October 12th, 2007, 08:40 AM
Try nyo humanap ng FERTIPLUS ito daw ginagamit ng mga malalaking breeder para maganda umitlog ang mga inahin nila. naghahanap din ako nito kya kung sino may alam ng bilihan nito post lang po ng contact no.

sammy012
October 12th, 2007, 08:59 AM
pare layingcrumble lang at concentrate na binabad at multivitamins lang.tapos 4days mo pagamit sa b.cock m evry morning tapos pagsamahin m na .alisin m lang unang 3 itlog puro fertile yan.subok k nayan;)

gamecock96
October 12th, 2007, 09:19 AM
Bigyan mo ng vitamin ADEC

Al

ralejandro
October 12th, 2007, 10:08 AM
pare layingcrumble lang at concentrate na binabad at multivitamins lang.tapos 4days mo pagamit sa b.cock m evry morning tapos pagsamahin m na .alisin m lang unang 3 itlog puro fertile yan.subok k nayan;)

Sir alin po ang fertile yung 3 itlog na una na aalisin o yung iba na matitira?
Gumagamit sir ako ng incubator, mga ilang araw bago muli ulitin ang pagpapakain ng laying crumble at concentrate na binabad at multivitamins para umepekto sa manok muli?

Thanks
Jhugoe

rcgualberto
October 12th, 2007, 12:03 PM
may idea ba kayo kung paano mapapalaki itlog ng inahen?
meron kasi ako 7 months palang sya at ang itlog maliit lang, ano kaya dapat kong gawin o ipakain para lumaki itlog nya?
salamat po!

Sa pagkakaalam ko kasabong Rock eh...kahit gumamit ka ng egg enhancer kung meron nga nito pero kung 7 months pa lang pullet eh di mo pa rin mapapalaki ang egg..at that age talagang maliit lang ang labas ng itlog..kasi it will get bigger only in due time when the pullet has reach it's mature age recommended for breeding which as i know normally happens from 10-12 months and you will notice that it will get more bigger pag nakapag moult na ang hen mo..just my 2 cents opinion.

taurus11
October 12th, 2007, 08:51 PM
this part was taken in "enterpinoys.blogspot.com"

if you want more information, just go in that website.... i hope it will help

Good layers - Layers will lay eggs regularly if they are kept away from noise and disturbances. The effect of noise and disturbances on 4,000 layers was studied by four scientists from the University of Zagreb, Yugoslavia. When a strong electric bell was sounded, the number of eggs laid was decreased...

Poor layers - Poor layers cost food and space, and so should be removed. The marks of a poor layer are: The comb is pale, dry and withdrawn at the top and below the throat. the eyes are dim. The hen is thin and inactive...

Salt: increases egg laying - The sodium content of salt is necessary for egg laying. But this element is not provided in commercial feeds because it will increase the cost. To enable the hen to produce well, mix 200 gms of salt for every 2 sacks of feed...

taurus11
October 12th, 2007, 08:52 PM
continuation.....


Light for good egg laying - Light is important in the setting up of a coop for layers. It has much to do in the maturation of the growing layers and their capability to lay plenty...

Strong egg shells - According to studies in the University of Guelph, Ontario, Canada, a laying hen given Vitamin D when feed bears stronger egg shells than those not given Vitamin D. Several groups of layers were given different doses of Vitamin D3 (calciferol, derived from the fish liver oil)...

taurus11
October 12th, 2007, 08:53 PM
continuation...


Feed for chicken - Watermelon rind. Researchers at UP Los Baņos fed watermelon rind to chickens for 6 months. These were compared to chicken given ordinary commercial feed. They observed that commercial feeds can be replaced with watermelon rind up to 20%...

Soap powder for chicken - According to farmers with long experience in chicken raising, mixing powder soap with the feed increases the weight of the chicken more than does the adding of feed. This is because detergent aids in the process of digestion in the chicken, reduces fat, and suppresses some parasites in the intestinal tract...

dalusape1
October 12th, 2007, 08:56 PM
Try nyo po patuka ng Thunderbird Successor Breeder Pellets

http://www.progressive.com.ph/product.do?action=singleProduct&productid=2429

Good luck po

armelmanipol
October 12th, 2007, 09:49 PM
tenks for all post

VMT^Carmen
October 12th, 2007, 10:14 PM
meron ba kayo alam na vitamins pampaitlog ng manok para makapag early breed?

try mo ibigay yung vitamins para sa nagbubuntis..
ang ganda ng concentration nun to start life.
punta ka sa mercury drug kunin mo yung pinakamura

ismael
October 12th, 2007, 10:18 PM
QUOTE" Soap powder for chicken - According to farmers with long experience in chicken raising, mixing powder soap with the feed increases the weight of the chicken more than does the adding of feed. This is because detergent aids in the process of digestion in the chicken, reduces fat, and suppresses some parasites in the intestinal tract... QUOTE" taurus11

NEW INFO FOR ME, IT'S MY FIRST TIME TO HEAR THIS SOAP POWDER MIX WITH FEEDS

taurus11
October 12th, 2007, 11:29 PM
[QUOTE=ismael]QUOTE" Soap powder for chicken - According to farmers with long experience in chicken raising, mixing powder soap with the feed increases ....


it is wise to use it on dry feeding only otherwise the taste cannot take by the chickens....

sammy012
October 13th, 2007, 05:08 AM
[quote=ralejandro]Sir alin po ang fertile yung 3 itlog na una na aalisin o yung iba na matitira?
Gumagamit sir ako ng incubator, mga ilang araw bago muli ulitin ang pagpapakain ng laying crumble at concentrate na binabad at multivitamins para umepekto sa manok muli?

pare yun unang 3aalisin at yun mga huli ang fertile pero wag m kalimutan mag purga bago m gawin ito.at kung may lettuce ka [gulay ito]mas maganda kuna mahahaluan mo araw araw.tigil m ang layingcrumble pag nag itlog na ng una at palitan m ng ordinaycrumble maganda tatak bmeg o any brand name

karabiti
October 13th, 2007, 06:12 AM
pampaitlog, bigyan ko ng laying mash or belamyl IM.
hardshell, calcium. sapat na yun 20pesos per bottle na calcium lactate. at bigay mo daily.
dapat nasa tamang edad ang manok para mangingitlog. hindi pwede yun 4months mangingitlog na.:D
hindi din yun mangngitlog if payatot masyado or parang malnourish cya.
may range yun sila sa kanilang timbang at hipo na mangingitlog sila.

VMT^Carmen
October 13th, 2007, 07:22 AM
QUOTE" Soap powder for chicken - According to farmers with long experience in chicken raising, mixing powder soap with the feed increases the weight of the chicken more than does the adding of feed. This is because detergent aids in the process of digestion in the chicken, reduces fat, and suppresses some parasites in the intestinal tract... QUOTE" taurus11

NEW INFO FOR ME, IT'S MY FIRST TIME TO HEAR THIS SOAP POWDER MIX WITH FEEDS

Do you have any report on the histologic liver biopsy result of those chickens?
giving corn also increases weight.
How about reproductive cohort studies?
Follow up on the quailty of eggs,hatchability,viability...
survival rate of chicks?:D

ralejandro
October 13th, 2007, 11:27 AM
[quote=ralejandro]Sir alin po ang fertile yung 3 itlog na una na aalisin o yung iba na matitira?
Gumagamit sir ako ng incubator, mga ilang araw bago muli ulitin ang pagpapakain ng laying crumble at concentrate na binabad at multivitamins para umepekto sa manok muli?

pare yun unang 3aalisin at yun mga huli ang fertile pero wag m kalimutan mag purga bago m gawin ito.at kung may lettuce ka [gulay ito]mas maganda kuna mahahaluan mo araw araw.tigil m ang layingcrumble pag nag itlog na ng una at palitan m ng ordinaycrumble maganda tatak bmeg o any brand name

Sammy012 Salamat malaki rin tulong yang advice mo sa akin

ralejandro
October 13th, 2007, 11:35 AM
Armelmanipol
Isingit ko lang po ito, mga kakmates, bakit marami ang nabubugok sa mga papisa ko na itlog? Halos 3 sa sampung itlog lang ang napipisa. At minsan may kubikong ang daliri. Ano po ang kulang para marami ang mapisa at maiwasan ang kubikong na daliri
Salamat po

itosh
October 13th, 2007, 12:16 PM
Armelmanipol
Isingit ko lang po ito, mga kakmates, bakit marami ang nabubugok sa mga papisa ko na itlog? Halos 3 sa sampung itlog lang ang napipisa. At minsan may kubikong ang daliri. Ano po ang kulang para marami ang mapisa at maiwasan ang kubikong na daliri
Salamat po

hindi po ako experto pero sa tingin ko wala sa tamang kalusugan ang iyong brood fowls...

pangalawa ang pagmamanage ng incubator at least 3X a day ang turning and stable temperature 99.5-101.5 ang gamit ko na incubator temp, walang fans, vent hole lang na sing laki ng drinking straw...

pangatlo siguro ung paghandle ng eggs before incubating...

again im not an expert...its just my personal exp..

acangincubators
October 14th, 2007, 08:09 AM
Armelmanipol
Isingit ko lang po ito, mga kakmates, bakit marami ang nabubugok sa mga papisa ko na itlog? Halos 3 sa sampung itlog lang ang napipisa. At minsan may kubikong ang daliri. Ano po ang kulang para marami ang mapisa at maiwasan ang kubikong na daliri
Salamat po


for more information on incubation and hatchery management
please open my threads on How to produce quality gamefowl chicks,
handling and storage of eggs before incubation here at Usapang Manok
and Importance of incubation.... and my other threads at Chicken Talk

Hope you will have an overview of what chick production is all about come this breeding season

acangincubators
October 14th, 2007, 08:13 AM
Armelmanipol
Isingit ko lang po ito, mga kakmates, bakit marami ang nabubugok sa mga papisa ko na itlog? Halos 3 sa sampung itlog lang ang napipisa. At minsan may kubikong ang daliri. Ano po ang kulang para marami ang mapisa at maiwasan ang kubikong na daliri
Salamat po

i suggest you to have a hygrometer gauge to read the humidity inside your incubator. Correct humidity level is very important at all times during incubation period most importantly during hatching period. Of courese correct temperature setting is the real must.

ewankorin1
October 14th, 2007, 12:27 PM
i suggest you to have a hygrometer gauge to read the humidity inside your incubator. Correct humidity level is very important at all times during incubation period most importantly during hatching period. Of courese correct temperature setting is the real must.

sir san po kami pwede makabili ng hygrometer,nagtanung napo ako sa national book store eh wala daw silang ganun sir. paki ppost sir kung saan nag makabili naman kami. salamat po.

ralejandro
October 14th, 2007, 02:55 PM
Sir Itosh maraming salamat, additional knowledge po sa akin yan

Sir Acangincubators salamat din, nabasa ko ang information sa thread mo at nagprint pa ako.

May itatanong pa po ako, Nagiipon po ako ng itlog para isalang sa incubator. Mga ilang araw po ba dapat tumagal sa store room o ref. para malusog din ang itlog bago isalang sa incubator
Salamat po

acangincubators
October 14th, 2007, 04:00 PM
Sir Itosh maraming salamat, additional knowledge po sa akin yan

Sir Acangincubators salamat din, nabasa ko ang information sa thread mo at nagprint pa ako.

May itatanong pa po ako, Nagiipon po ako ng itlog para isalang sa incubator. Mga ilang araw po ba dapat tumagal sa store room o ref. para malusog din ang itlog bago isalang sa incubator
Salamat po

ang sagot sa katanungan po nyo ay napaloob doon sa Egg HAndling....... anyway:

Store eggs at cooler room temp or veg compartment of refs for not more than 7 to 10 days. Review po nyo uli.

acangincubators
October 14th, 2007, 04:10 PM
sir san po kami pwede makabili ng hygrometer,nagtanung napo ako sa national book store eh wala daw silang ganun sir. paki ppost sir kung saan nag makabili naman kami. salamat po.

Sa cockhouse ( SM ) meron digital thermo-hygrometer.

you could use any available dry bulb thermometer in making a wetbulb thermometer. the thing is, these are only guages, binabasa lang po nito kung ano ang humidity sa loob ng incubator. Ang tanong is paano ba maregulate ang humidity sa loob ng incubator.

jahn gloria
October 14th, 2007, 08:51 PM
Ito Naman Po Ang Experience Namin.
1. Kailangan Healthy Ang Materails Na Gagamitin Mo.
Hindi Galing Sa Sakit Like Sipon, Halak, Bulutong Etc Etc

2. Malinis Na Breeding Pen

3. Hindi Katabaan Ang Pullets Or Hens/ Maliban Po Sa Broodcock At Broodstag Na Gagamitin Nyo. Kailangan Maganda Ang Katawan Ng Lalaki.
Kung May Sapola Na Ang Inyong Inahin O Pullets Kailangan Nyo Sila Ireduce. Ilawan Nyo Sa Gabi Para Humaba Ang Day Time Nila. Wag Nyo Sila Padapuin Sa Hapunan. Sa Lupa Lang Sila Matutulog.

4.wag Nyo Na Bigyan Ng Mamahaling Feeds Ang Inahin At Pullets Ninyo. Masyadong Masarap Yan Kaya Ginaganahan Silang Kumain, Yan Po Ang Cause Ng Pag Taba Ng Mga Inahin Ang Masasarap Ng Patuka. Bigyan Nyo Lang Ng Laying Mash At Grains Ok Na Yan. Pag Nag Start Na Mag Itlog Change Feed Kayo. Palitan Nyo Naman Po Ng Duck Pellet Na Robina. 10pesos Lang Yata Kila Nyan Solve Na Sila Jan.

5.lastly We Have A 16 Day Prime Up Conditioning Para Sa Mga Materials At Sinusunod Namin Yan Bago Talaga Isalang Sa Pen Ang Mga Manok. Kailangan Nyo Din Po Munang Bigyan Sila Ng Attention Bago Isalang. Hindi Po Kasi Pupwede Na Salang Na Lang Kayo Agad Ng Salang. Kailangan Nyo Pa Muna Bakunahan Ulit Ang Mga Breeders Nyo Para Hindi Maging Sakitin Ang Mga Sisiw Na Ipoproduce Nila. Email Nyo Lang Po Ako Kung Gusto Nyo Ng Complete Info.

Ito Po Ay Sa Aming Sariling Experience Lamang, Iba Iba Po Tayong Mga Breeder Na Style Pag Dating Sa Pag Papadami Ng Mga Manok.

Don Creole
October 26th, 2007, 03:27 PM
Gamit ko B22 powder, cecical at vit. ADE + laying mash

beetlug
October 26th, 2007, 03:55 PM
Baka makatulong ito.

British Poultry Science Journal nag published ng research results noong 2004 using different percentage ng Vit E na hinalo sa pagkain ng mga laying hens.

General conclusions; sa mga hens na ang pagkain may halo na Vit E, mas mataas ang count ng egg production in-comparison sa hens na walang Vit E ang pagkain.

Sa mga hens na may Vit E ang patuka, iba iba din ang count ng egg production depende sa amount of Vit E na binibigay. Mahirap lang intindihin ang formula nila to know exacltly the amount of Vit E per hens. But the results tend to favor mid range Vit E level additives sa feeds.

acangincubators
November 4th, 2007, 03:48 PM
meron ba kayo alam na vitamins pampaitlog ng manok para makapag early breed?

when choosing vitamins na pampaitlog, look for those na may naka indicate sa label na
"to stimulate egg production". Sigurado po kayo balanced ang mga necessary vitamins at essential mineral contents nito, at nararapat na ibigay in preparing our broodhens ( 2 weeks before mating) and during egg laying. Kasi ang mga vitamins na nakukuha ng inahen were passed on to its offspring thru the egg embryo and is teken in during embryo development.

Darkwing
November 4th, 2007, 06:47 PM
when choosing vitamins na pampaitlog, look for those na may naka indicate sa label na
"to stimulate egg production". Sigurado po kayo balanced ang mga necessary vitamins at essential mineral contents nito, at nararapat na ibigay in preparing our broodhens ( 2 weeks before mating) and during egg laying. Kasi ang mga vitamins na nakukuha ng inahen were passed on to its offspring thru the egg embryo and is teken in during embryo development.

Greetings engr.

Can you recommend brand names ng vitamins na naka indicate mismo sa label na "to stimulate egg production?"

Thanks

ACAngnqbtr
November 5th, 2007, 07:45 AM
Greetings engr.

Can you recommend brand names ng vitamins na naka indicate mismo sa label na "to stimulate egg production?"

Thanks


Ang gamit ko sa farm ko ay: fortevit (soluble powder) imported and distributed by: medilea. I dont know kung meron na nito sa local poultry supplies.

indications:
* to stimulate growth and reduce stress
* to stimulate egg production and hatchability, etc.. etc...

ang avescience meron rin.....

Darkwing
November 5th, 2007, 08:57 AM
Salamat po Engr.

romellenin
November 5th, 2007, 09:21 AM
Any alternatives? Or local substitutes? Tnx!

norman_d_gr8
November 5th, 2007, 09:33 AM
Sakin ang gamit ko lang ay B-Meg Layer crumbles tpos once a day ang painom ko ng calcium lactate tablets (250mg.) para mabilis magbuo ng itlog.

311newroad
December 1st, 2007, 02:46 PM
Up Up Up Natin..

ACAngnqbtr
December 1st, 2007, 07:03 PM
Any alternatives? Or local substitutes? Tnx!

Score by avescience

Selectrogen

Hawakamay
December 1st, 2007, 08:26 PM
Ok itong thead dagdag kaalaman sa gaya ko baguhan... thanks!

Ir192-Co60
December 1st, 2007, 09:45 PM
ayos ...naka kuha na naman ng magagandang tips...:D

sammy012
December 2nd, 2007, 08:48 AM
:) mga pare k ingat lang sa pag gamit ng calcium lactate lalo na kung bata ang manok m.dahil ang mga natutuka nila at kinakain ay may nakukuha na cla na calcium .dahil may nanyayari na ayaw n ihataw ng manok m ang paa nya . maari kung gusto m talaga ng calcium maliit na dosage lang ibigay m.. kung ako sa inyo ordinary vit lang purga ok nayan.laying crumble at tamang pag gamit ng barako

Lagtang
December 2nd, 2007, 09:19 AM
Mga Cockmates,
In my own experienced, I used calcium with oyster shell and boiled egg .I give it to the hen twice a week [ 200mg ] the boiled is given everyday. Then I give Vit. E to my brood cock. I have a good results with this .
If I want to have a Nov.or Dec born I start giving the vit. early and make sure your brood pen is clean,kailangan hindi diturbo ang mga nokis nyo.
I give the vit. at night para siguradong hindi sila madisturbo. Also collect the eggs night time.[ I'm using incubator ]
Hope this will help..
Lagtang

ubb6793
December 2nd, 2007, 12:46 PM
Base sa aming obserbasyan, ang mga inahen na binibitawan sa range kasama ang corded cock ay nangingitlog kahit sila ay nasa lugon kaya pagkatapos nilang maglugon ay ready na agad silang mangitlog. Kelangan lang ay kulungin ng 2 linggon bago isalang para macondition at maflush yung semilya ng nakaraang cock na kumasta sa kanya.

Ito ang nagpapatunay na kapag malusog ang inahen ay mangingitlog yan kahit anong season. Bigyan ng multivitamins palagi.

christen
December 2nd, 2007, 05:33 PM
magandang idea ang makukuha natin dito sa topic na to

christen
December 2nd, 2007, 05:34 PM
up lang natin at baka may gusto pang magshare ng kanilang ideas

nagasaki red
December 2nd, 2007, 05:36 PM
breeder aid cockmate,gawa ng excelence ni doc ayong lorenzo.try mo maganda daw ito binibigay sa broodhen at broodcock....

SUPREMO
December 2nd, 2007, 09:43 PM
TRY VITAMIN "A D E C" FOR BROODHEN AND BROODCOCK

miguelito
December 2nd, 2007, 09:55 PM
Mga tropa
Try ninyong gumamit ng ilaw sa gabi. kung mayroon kayong timer ay turn in on from 5 AM to 7AM then from 6 PM to 10 PM. Give them Vit A D E 1/2 cc Every 2 weeks para maganda ang hatchability nila. also try ninyo yong breeder pellet ng thunderbird.
hope this help.
Mike

Ir192-Co60
December 2nd, 2007, 10:55 PM
pakanda ng paganda talakayan dito a....cge pa mga brod...keep posting:D

RedMiner
December 3rd, 2007, 12:05 AM
Try nyo po patuka ng Thunderbird Successor Breeder Pellets

http://www.progressive.com.ph/product.do?action=singleProduct&productid=2429

Good luck po



Agree ako dito kasi may sangkap na itong natural na fertility enhancer at hindi pa sakitin ang mga pro-produce mong mga sisiw. Kahit ako sa obserbasyon ko ay maganda ito dahil maaga akong naka pag produce ngayon breeding season at madalas mangitlog ang mga inahin ko. Simple lang ang pakain ko pero kumpleto sa nutrisyon at V22 powder ang panghalo ko sa mga pagkain ng mga bini breeding ko ay quality ang itlog pati shell nito at magaganda ang sukat at hindi bumababa sa 20 grams ang timbang. Higit sa lahat makakapag habol ka na maraming ma papa sisiw sa buwan na November-february born.

red

AnakNiPepe
December 3rd, 2007, 09:16 PM
vitamin e po maganda rin

rocad47
December 3rd, 2007, 09:23 PM
Tanong lang mga cockmate-yung broodhen ko pagkatapos umitlog ng tatlo ay tumigil na.bale apat na araw ng hindi umiitlog.sige naman ang kakak ng inahen at masipag magpakasta.Sa palagay kaya ninyo eh tumuloy pa sa pagitlog.?

Dynamite asil
December 4th, 2007, 02:59 PM
Tama vit e for fertility

Dynamite asil
December 4th, 2007, 03:03 PM
Tama vit e for fertility

Dynamite asil
December 4th, 2007, 03:03 PM
Tama vit e for fertility

Dynamite asil
December 4th, 2007, 03:03 PM
Tama vit e for fertility

Ir192-Co60
December 4th, 2007, 09:04 PM
angat pa natin para makita nung iba...:D

carlito_14
December 11th, 2007, 06:45 PM
this part was taken in "enterpinoys.blogspot.com"

if you want more information, just go in that website.... i hope it will help

Good layers - Layers will lay eggs regularly if they are kept away from noise and disturbances. The effect of noise and disturbances on 4,000 layers was studied by four scientists from the University of Zagreb, Yugoslavia. When a strong electric bell was sounded, the number of eggs laid was decreased...

Poor layers - Poor layers cost food and space, and so should be removed. The marks of a poor layer are: The comb is pale, dry and withdrawn at the top and below the throat. the eyes are dim. The hen is thin and inactive...

Salt: increases egg laying - The sodium content of salt is necessary for egg laying. But this element is not provided in commercial feeds because it will increase the cost. To enable the hen to produce well, mix 200 gms of salt for every 2 sacks of feed... sir how many grams should we mix for a 2-kilo feed?

rob_roi
December 11th, 2007, 07:18 PM
Agree ako dito kasi may sangkap na itong natural na fertility enhancer at hindi pa sakitin ang mga pro-produce mong mga sisiw. Kahit ako sa obserbasyon ko ay maganda ito dahil maaga akong naka pag produce ngayon breeding season at madalas mangitlog ang mga inahin ko. Simple lang ang pakain ko pero kumpleto sa nutrisyon at V22 powder ang panghalo ko sa mga pagkain ng mga bini breeding ko ay quality ang itlog pati shell nito at magaganda ang sukat at hindi bumababa sa 20 grams ang timbang. Higit sa lahat makakapag habol ka na maraming ma papa sisiw sa buwan na November-february born.

red

:) sa akin naman po, meron akong 6 mos old pullet na dapat ay 1 month ko pa balak ibreeding. pagkatapos ng deworm, delouse, at flushing ay thunderbird successor lang feeds ko, buong gabi na pagpapailaw, at cherifer 2ml/day (may taurine na sabi ni doc e maganda pang paitlog at may iba pang vits.. ginagamit ko to ksi 6mos old pa lang baka tumangkad pa :D ) . 2 wks pa lang na ganito kahit hindi pa napatungan ng cock e nangitlog mag isa... :D

ggabriel farm
June 17th, 2009, 10:25 AM
Tanong lang sir....may specific month of the year ba ang tamang pag breed...or we can breed anytime of the year basta mangingitlog na ang inahin...is june-july is good time for breeding.