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solraya
April 25th, 2004, 08:46 AM
Has anyone done the old time practice of chicken coops atop fishponds? Feedback please.

I am developing what used to be a ricefield. Instead of spending on filling materials, we made 4 meter wide canal along one side and dumped the excavated soil to elevate other portions of the property.

Spoke w/ someone from the site lately and he discouraged me against it, saying the fish doesn't taste good.

Any inputs? The canal is just 4x500sqm and intend to house about 500 sasso broilers stretched out. I have free flowing water for the fishpond, we will prepare the pond, and we use organic feeds and probiotics for the chickens. To start w/, our chicken coops have no odor nor flies.

Just thought it was a good idea to maximize space and go organic farming too for the pond.

banderado84
April 25th, 2004, 10:11 AM
Sol....nung 80s meron gumawa niyan sa makalagpas ng Gapan puntang Sta rosa gawing kaliwa ng Maharlika Highway.....nakapatong mismo yung malalaking kulungan made of bamboo and nipa hut sa fishpond ....hindi yata nag click nung pahahon na iyon dahil pina bayaan na lang ng mayari na mabulok yung housing after few short years.....pero sa kaalaman ngayon palagay ko ay viable na ito....baka meron sila sa radio/TV show nila gerry geronimo at mr Bunyi about Agri bussiness....maybe they have websites?....or the agri-section of Manila Bulletin Online(archive).....ang alam ko bago patubigan ang fishpond ay sinasabugan muna ng chicken dangs at hinayaan nila itong lumutin ng husto bago paagusan ng tubig....its an interesting topic & will try to post some links on this thread later.....fis

solraya
April 25th, 2004, 02:00 PM
banderado,

salamat...

I am really excited about this baby, sige paki inform mo ako pag may sites na mapag aaralan.

I surfed into a site, mga awards ng Dept of Agriculture, and there was an awardee who did this.

banderado84
April 25th, 2004, 07:27 PM
Sol....here are links from yahoo.


http://my.netzero.net/s/search?r=autosearch&query=fishpond%20poultry


http://www.fao.org/waicent/faoinfo/agricult/aga/agap/frg/papers/little2.txt


http://www.hort.cornell.edu/department/facilities/orchards/pruning.html


fis

solraya
April 26th, 2004, 08:21 AM
salamat...check ko

Camarines
April 27th, 2004, 08:09 PM
I've seen one of this bukid palaisdaan. The one I saw has a water pump with 4 inch hose continuously pumping fresh water. I didn't see any chickens. The tilapias are big and they are gathered by net in the side of the pond. This was in Iba, Zambales. If you go to Masinloc, Zambales take the short cut from Amungan to Masinloc and it will be on the left side of the highway.

Camarines
April 27th, 2004, 08:22 PM
Here's San Roque's integrated farm website www.barfarm.com

solraya
April 27th, 2004, 10:12 PM
banderado,

Thank you. Maybe I was focused on Phil setting that is why I didn't find anything earlier.

I was at the site or the future farm today, and am excited. Talo man or panalo, worth enjoying the bumps on this.

Camarines, thank you too

banderado84
April 27th, 2004, 11:06 PM
...Sol kayang kaya mo yan heheh on the job training....bet you only glimpse on the manual of your computer or maybe still sealed on original plastics heheh, that makes it more exiting isn't it? if on trees(orchards) i can be of help...did some seminars and stuff here in Florida few years ago on Tropical fruits....specially on prunings and diff method of propagations....there is a nursery in Pampanga that sells excellent tasting fruit trees mostly grafted(he got my Ruby Red GUAVA direct from Florida)...just to let you know to go with your fishpond....just dont forget the fire insurance ha...lol..fis


Camarines....fishponds are the trend in Zambales & Pampanga especially in Bacolor...almost all are tilapias...they feed the commercial pellets made of fishmeal etc.....yes they use 4" deepwell pump for water supply....at first season the bed of fishpond dont retain water that good they say(due to sand/lahar)....but as they go along for years they notice that water retains very well coz of dirt and sludge the fish and the feeds created ......but one problem they say if you dont repelnish the water that much is the Galisin ang Tilapia heheh....You could also use the tarundon for your teepees i guess with the hill/mountain effect for muscle building....my route was bataan to masinloc in the 80s with a stop overs in the old Bacolor cockpit heheh.....and i liked their fruits over there specialy the small seed sweet duhat and sinigwelas hmmm ...fis

solraya
April 28th, 2004, 11:55 AM
banderado,

What's tarundon? Yung na excavate ko at tinambak sa gilid, ay di ko na pinatag. Nagkaroon ng tumpok tumpok sa lupa, at yun ang gagawin kong ranging area.

Interested ako doon sa fruit trees. Gusto ko kasi iba. I don't want what everyone has nor does.

Saan ang nursery nung friend mo? Dyan ako alang alam, sa mga pruning, propagation etc. I just buy trees, plant and water.

banderado84
April 28th, 2004, 12:30 PM
...Sol...ang tarundon ay yun ngang itinambak mo sa gilid ng fishpond....yung Nursery ay along McArthur highway...right side kung galing kang San Fernando pa puntang Angeles....Barangay Saguin ang place...Wilson Instant Tree Bank ang pangalan ng Nursery....ang may ari ay Pakistani pero ok mag Tagalog or Kapampangan...marami syang exotic fruit trees....durian, lanzones, longkong, tamarind all from Thailand & mostly graffted, his Duhat is sweet and BIG....he does contracting too for really big farms especially on mangoes(piko & dinamulag)...just say hi to him if you get there...fis

solraya
April 28th, 2004, 12:36 PM
I will surely go visit him. Enjoy ko plant places na ka-iba ang laman.

Eh...do i say HI from banderado? LOL Is he named Wilson?

banderado84
April 28th, 2004, 12:48 PM
....Sol I ve never been there for like 3 years...but he will sure remember me(Maximo) when you look for the RED seeded Guava that came from Florida heheh....you can see those Guavas growing & fruiting in trellis similar to Grapes...fis

kimora
April 28th, 2004, 01:30 PM
Manang Sol, papasyal sa farm mo paguwi ko ah. Do you use bulldozer or backhoe to dig your pond? Magkano ang per hour? I am also planning to put up my fishpond but still got to learn a lot of aqua culture.

solraya
April 28th, 2004, 02:28 PM
banderado,

naku trellis...lalo akong natakam magpunta kaagad...sabay kain ng Tibok-Tibok sa Susy's.

Kimora,

Most welcome ka, kasi dadalhin mo wine ko!

I paid PHP5,000 for the mobilization using the low bed, back and forth na yun. PHP1,500 per hour naman ang backhoe. The width of the property is only 20meters, kaya hindi pwede bulldozer, w/c would have made it easier. Saka na lang sana ang backhoe para mag ayos sa tinulak na soil. Yung kalye ko, dinaanan ko na lang sa pick-up...ayun kalye na pa ekis ekis, ganda naging epekto. Sana maging parang safari pag natapos ko :) . Mga PHP120th ang bill ko yata....denial stage pa ako sa bayaran.

Paiikutan ko ng puno tig 1 meter apart for fencing, gamit ko Mahogany.

felisa
April 29th, 2004, 02:49 AM
hi sol, magandand idea iyang balak mo but i think hindi puedeng i direct ang pag lagay ng chicken ****s. dapat yatang ilagay iyan earlier para gagawa ng lumot para iyon ang pagkain ng mga isda. sa amin sa iloilo pag meron kang poultry ng layers or chickens like sassos, ay binibili ng mga may fishponds ang mga chicken ****s by the bags and iyon ang pang dagdag nila sa pag kain. kaya sa aming bayan ay masasarap ang mga bangus na galing Salad, Iloilo. keep on cybercocking.

kimora
April 29th, 2004, 03:19 AM
Talagang papasyalan kita Manang Sandy. Dala ko ang wine mo. Ihanda mo na lang yung sassong pupulutanin, lol. I might as well try to raise some sasson para sa town fiesta namin. Will email you later.

solraya
April 29th, 2004, 08:11 AM
felisa,

that is how we really prepare the ponds. dati pa naman kami merong fishponds. ang bago lang sa gagawin ko ngayon, to save space and do semi intensive feeding, ay ilalagay ko ang chicken coops sa taas.

solraya
May 11th, 2004, 08:57 AM
banderado,

I went to see Wilson over the weekend. Sayang, dapat pick-up truck ang dala ko. I got several trees, but have to go back to get more.

Salamat.

banderado84
May 11th, 2004, 11:50 AM
....Well good luck Sol ...its very timely as rainy season in PI is about to start....cant afford to get anymore trees from him heheh...coz its already crowded in my backyard....luya na lang yata pwede itanim lol....got my dagtaless Thailand lanzonez from him & i cant wait to taste its fruit lol....how is the Hibok-hibok(sapin sapin?) from Suzy lol... inside the OLD NEPO MART? ... maxB

solraya
May 11th, 2004, 08:36 PM
aba..hindi ko nabalitaan ang dagtaless lanzones..pagbalik ko nga

tibok-tibok..superrrrrrrrrr sarap. meron na bagong suzy's sa dau exit.

i looked for combat wire..ang mahal pala nun grabe

banderado84
May 11th, 2004, 11:05 PM
....Sol ....look for combat wire in San Fernando crossing....sa may hilera ng Pampangas best....meron dun bakanteng lote na may stock na combat wire at may crane na ren sa tabi....kaya kung may dala ka elf ay atras mo lang dun at load na nila....di ko lang alam ang presyo pero mas mura siguro dun compare sa DAU....or you could try the surplus near dau express way exit....Deang Motors yata name nun...tapat ng Kentucky Chicken at tabi ng Carenderia yung sa may crossing na may Sing along 'lam mo na lol... :blush:


or in Cabanatuan along maharlika road tapat ng NISSAN motors...Crishtian Motors Inc... baka meron sila.

solraya
May 12th, 2004, 09:04 AM
Naku, para kang si Swallow....sya ang yellow pages ko. Hindi na ako naghahanap, text ko lang sya, dumarating ang info haahhah.

Dyan napapatunayan ang "Ask and you shall find"

Salamat ha....

ligas_paka2006
February 17th, 2007, 04:33 PM
:)

cnucum
October 21st, 2007, 08:02 PM
ma'am sol,

kumusta na po ang venture nyong ito? any new info?

maraming salamat po... :D

rosario
October 21st, 2007, 10:07 PM
Has anyone done the old time practice of chicken coops atop fishponds? Feedback please.

I am developing what used to be a ricefield. Instead of spending on filling materials, we made 4 meter wide canal along one side and dumped the excavated soil to elevate other portions of the property.

Spoke w/ someone from the site lately and he discouraged me against it, saying the fish doesn't taste good.

Any inputs? The canal is just 4x500sqm and intend to house about 500 sasso broilers stretched out. I have free flowing water for the fishpond, we will prepare the pond, and we use organic feeds and probiotics for the chickens. To start w/, our chicken coops have no odor nor flies.

Just thought it was a good idea to maximize space and go organic farming too for the pond.

cnucum
October 24th, 2007, 03:15 PM
taas ko lang para makita ni mam sol... :D

MythicalEnso
September 10th, 2015, 11:46 PM
taas lang para may mapulot na mga idea sa mga gustong magshare pa.

JDGrey
September 11th, 2015, 07:24 PM
Has anyone done the old time practice of chicken coops atop fishponds? Feedback please.

I am developing what used to be a ricefield. Instead of spending on filling materials, we made 4 meter wide canal along one side and dumped the excavated soil to elevate other portions of the property.

Spoke w/ someone from the site lately and he discouraged me against it, saying the fish doesn't taste good.

Any inputs? The canal is just 4x500sqm and intend to house about 500 sasso broilers stretched out. I have free flowing water for the fishpond, we will prepare the pond, and we use organic feeds and probiotics for the chickens. To start w/, our chicken coops have no odor nor flies.

Just thought it was a good idea to maximize space and go organic farming too for the pond.

Heavily silted water is not good for the fish. There is a proper way of using chicken manure for the fishpond.
Sa palaisdaan namin dati sa Quezon province gumagamit din kami kami ng chicken manure para ma maintain namin na maganda ang pagtubo ng lablab o lumot dahil intensive ang sistema namin. Una, kailangan na mapatuyo ang bahagi ng palaisdaan na lalagyan ng ipot ng manok. Pangalawa ikakalat ang mga ipot dito at gagamitan ng hand tractor para humalong mabuti sa lupa at maging even ang distribution nito. Pangatlo, Patutuyuin ang ipot sa loob ng ilang araw. Pang apat, Papasukan ng tubig ang bahagi ng palaisdaan about 2cm high para tumubo ang lablab (plankton) habang unti unting dinadagdagan ang tubig. Pag supisyente na ang tubo ng lablab Papasukan na ito ng sapat na tubig para ihanda sa mga bagong fingerlings (binansot)na pakakawalan dito. Sa ganitong sistema, masarap ang lasa ng bangus at napakabilis ng paglaki. Sana makadagdag sa input at makatulong.