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Ilongongpalos
September 29th, 2008, 04:51 PM
Pre fundador may PM ako sa IMO open your mail box kay indi makasulod ang mesages.

ebaY
September 29th, 2008, 05:19 PM
Pre fundador may PM ako sa IMO open your mail box kay indi makasulod ang mesages.

pulaw pulaw naman kita,maayung gab-i lng da nong IP....tikatika lng dala pasaka!!!!

moxxx2000
September 29th, 2008, 05:35 PM
kami man ah, nd anay kamimag commit kay basi wla na stag c migo izyl, depende dia sa resulta ka 8 pagba kag bakbakab n3 na.

good morning toto pol...
Quote:
Originally Posted by pol paks
indi danay pag confirm akon kay wala ko sini kabalu.....sa ICCC stag derby sigurado ma intra ako


*** dayon a..dali man lang ina kuha-on ang pula pula a...

moxxx2000
September 29th, 2008, 05:48 PM
Originally Posted by tumandok
mga membro ta diri,

mangayo ako bulig sa inyo para sa paderby sang TH iloilo leg sa iloilo coliseum
.ACCEPTED BANDED STAGS --- PAGBA, NGBA, UGBAP, UGBA, GFBAN, BAKBAKAN, NSBA, RGG, CAGBA, and UNGBA.

NON BANDED STAGS ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE


nov 25, 2008

3 stag derby

pot money 2500.

palihog lang bulig para madayon. ipakita ta man sa mga mego ta sa negros nga kaya ta man magpromote sa iloilo para puwede naton ma ayu ang 2010 TH charity derby nga hiwaton sa iloilo.

lawagon ko na ang pangayoan ko bulig

tumandok 2 entries---confirm
felisa 1 entry---confirm
pinolim/JRB---1 entry confirm
rabatak 1 entry
sj cocker 1 entry
silver 1 entry
devonloch 1 entry
perth/torpas 1 entry---confirm
atty/guapo 1 entry
gilavar888 1 entry
iron chef 1 entry
ilongopalos 1 entry---confirm
moxxx/ronel 1 entry---confirm
tanglad84 1 entry
bebotzar 1 entry---confirm
pautog/jamesisakov 1 entry---confirm
polpaks 1 entry---cancel
dondee/danbe2 1 entry
nonoy java/milko panes 1 entry
francisvillanu 1 entry
boots 1 entry
bogoy 3 entries para makabalos man ang taga negros....
jericp 1 entry---confirm
domskie 1 entry
ebay 1 entry---confirm
ronald labordo 1 entry
tebs 1 entry
yanbuwarrior 1 entry---confirm
izyljewel/freelance 1 entry---cancel

kung sin o pa da nalipatan ko, palihog lang sugpon
ang mga nakalista, palihog lang confirm

madamo nga salamat sa nag confirm.

moxxx2000
September 29th, 2008, 05:58 PM
Originally Posted by tumandok
mga membro ta diri,

mangayo ako bulig sa inyo para sa paderby sang TH iloilo leg sa iloilo coliseum
.ACCEPTED BANDED STAGS --- PAGBA, NGBA, UGBAP, UGBA, GFBAN, BAKBAKAN, NSBA, RGG, CAGBA, and UNGBA.

NON BANDED STAGS ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE


nov 25, 2008

3 stag derby

pot money 2500.

palihog lang bulig para madayon. ipakita ta man sa mga mego ta sa negros nga kaya ta man magpromote sa iloilo para puwede naton ma ayu ang 2010 TH charity derby nga hiwaton sa iloilo.

tumandok 2 entries---confirm
felisa 1 entry---confirm
pinolim/JRB---1 entry confirm
devonloch/warl 1 entry---confirm
perth/torpas 1 entry---confirm
ilongopalos 1 entry---confirm
moxxx/ronel 1 entry---confirm
bebotzar 1 entry---confirm
pautog/jamesisakov 1 entry---confirm
jericp 1 entry---confirm
ebay 1 entry---confirm
yanbuwarrior 1 entry---confirm

Total----13 confirm entries
kung sin o pa da nalipatan ko, palihog lang sugpon
ang mga nakalista, palihog lang confirm

perth
September 29th, 2008, 07:05 PM
Originally Posted by tumandok
mga membro ta diri,

mangayo ako bulig sa inyo para sa paderby sang TH iloilo leg sa iloilo coliseum
.ACCEPTED BANDED STAGS --- PAGBA, NGBA, UGBAP, UGBA, GFBAN, BAKBAKAN, NSBA, RGG, CAGBA, and UNGBA.

NON BANDED STAGS ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE


nov 25, 2008

3 stag derby

pot money 2500.

palihog lang bulig para madayon. ipakita ta man sa mga mego ta sa negros nga kaya ta man magpromote sa iloilo para puwede naton ma ayu ang 2010 TH charity derby nga hiwaton sa iloilo.

lawagon ko na ang pangayoan ko bulig

tumandok 2 entries---confirm
felisa 1 entry---confirm
pinolim/JRB---1 entry confirm
rabatak 1 entry
sj cocker 1 entry
silver 1 entry
devonloch 1 entry
perth/torpas 1 entry---confirm
atty/guapo 1 entry
gilavar888 1 entry
iron chef 1 entry
ilongopalos 1 entry---confirm
moxxx/ronel 1 entry---confirm
tanglad84 1 entry
bebotzar 1 entry---confirm
pautog/jamesisakov 1 entry---confirm
polpaks 1 entry---cancel
dondee/danbe2 1 entry
nonoy java/milko panes 1 entry
francisvillanu 1 entry
boots 1 entry
bogoy 3 entries para makabalos man ang taga negros....
jericp 1 entry---confirm
domskie 1 entry
ebay 1 entry---confirm
ronald labordo 1 entry
tebs 1 entry
yanbuwarrior 1 entry---confirm
izyljewel/freelance 1 entry---cancel

kung sin o pa da nalipatan ko, palihog lang sugpon
ang mga nakalista, palihog lang confirm

madamo nga salamat sa nag confirm.

Migo Jon, lihog abi ako putang sang bug-at nila, basi pwidi dira ang mga banded ko nga mga pabo ko kag pitaw.. salamat gid.....

Ilongongpalos
September 29th, 2008, 07:17 PM
To Ebay kamusta ako sa inyo dira!!! May balita ako nga indi maAyo sa pagkadto ninyo dire sa SouthCal.

romy 3388
September 29th, 2008, 07:37 PM
to romy sa diin ni nga pihak suba man? kay pamasyatran ta man eh:confused:






kahibalo ka sang balay ni hiligaynon, ti ang iya dapog kag akon dapog naga lapitay.............hi,hi,hi,hi,,................. .................................................. ..

ebaY
September 29th, 2008, 07:53 PM
To Ebay kamusta ako sa inyo dira!!! May balita ako nga indi maAyo sa pagkadto ninyo dire sa SouthCal.

nong IP, nag PM na lang ako sa imo.....maayong lawas liwat sa mga amigos...:D

tumandok
September 29th, 2008, 07:58 PM
maayong lawas sa tanan....

pila na lang ka adlaw, balbalanay naman sa iloilo coliseum

warl26
September 29th, 2008, 08:04 PM
mayung hapun lang ah,,, nong dante kamusta na,,

romy 3388
September 29th, 2008, 08:07 PM
to romy sa diin ni nga pihak suba man? kay pamasyatran ta man eh:confused:





didto sa lugar man ni hiligaynon tribu hiligaynon man mako.
ang dapog ni hiligaynon kag ang dapog ko lapitay lang. ikaw naman eeeee..ihihihi.........

romy 3388
September 29th, 2008, 08:11 PM
to dante mangkot lang ko ano gid bala ang schedule sang stag paderby ka iccc?? dec.27 kun dec 30??






kamusta lang to jrb..........................tahom manok mo to ..................

tumandok
September 29th, 2008, 08:24 PM
mayung hapun lang ah,,, nong dante kamusta na,,

maayo man ako diri... nagahulat sang inadlaw para makapuli...hehehe

tumandok
September 29th, 2008, 08:25 PM
Originally Posted by jrb.uk
to dante mangkot lang ko ano gid bala ang schedule sang stag paderby ka iccc?? dec.27 kun dec 30??

toto joe,

wala bulang ang dec 30? tingwaon ta nga matigayon sa dec 29. para *** ka. hehehe

bebotzar
September 29th, 2008, 08:39 PM
goodluck sa mga may entry sa ugbap.

Torpas
September 29th, 2008, 08:48 PM
didto sa lugar man ni hiligaynon tribu hiligaynon man mako.
ang dapog ni hiligaynon kag ang dapog ko lapitay lang. ikaw naman *** dayon migo romy naga kudog kudog pa he he he:D .........

tebs69
September 29th, 2008, 08:48 PM
kamusta sa tanan ...


Goodluck sa tanan nga may n3 sa UGBAP ....
tupad balay ko to saku gid sa derby sa UGBAP, si Engr Tilo Supapo ..

tebs69
September 29th, 2008, 09:00 PM
lihog confirm entry mo sa TH sa Nov 25 migo Teb...salamat..



toto moxxx


ma signal lang ko kon lapit na, kay depende pa ni sa unod ka alkasya ta.. kon may sobra sa budget ko sa breeding season , basi pa lang .. damu stag ko to pero nog finance lang kulang sa bulang ...

Rabatak
September 29th, 2008, 09:02 PM
kamusta sa tanan ...


Goodluck sa tanan nga may n3 sa UGBAP ....
tupad balay ko to saku gid sa derby sa UGBAP, si Engr Tilo Supapo ..

To tebs,
kamusta ka da / Magulang na ni Tilo si Butch (General Supapo)?

Good day lang kag kamusta sa tanan !!:)

felisa
September 29th, 2008, 09:17 PM
mga migs musta na da. migs tumandok daw indi gid ni kami kasulod sa bakbakan kay mga linghod gid to amon stags bilin. ti laban laban basi ma entry kami day pre nonong da kag migs grazi 2 ka entries tanan kag kon puede pa iban stags basi 3 tanan ka entries. hambalan ko to si rey nga mang imbitar sa iban nga may mga banded nga stags man didto parti dumangas kag barotac nuevo. goodluck. basi sa ugbap 8 stags na lang kami maka entra para segurado gid ang preparasyon kay alang alang gid ang amon nga pag saylo.

MUSTA LANG DA SA TANAN.

GRAZI
September 29th, 2008, 09:53 PM
Maayo gali kay may nabilin pa Pre Robert, tani matigayon para maka participate man kita.




mga migs musta na da. migs tumandok daw indi gid ni kami kasulod sa bakbakan kay mga linghod gid to amon stags bilin. ti laban laban basi ma entry kami day pre nonong da kag migs grazi 2 ka entries tanan kag kon puede pa iban stags basi 3 tanan ka entries. hambalan ko to si rey nga mang imbitar sa iban nga may mga banded nga stags man didto parti dumangas kag barotac nuevo. goodluck. basi sa ugbap 8 stags na lang kami maka entra para segurado gid ang preparasyon kay alang alang gid ang amon nga pag saylo.

MUSTA LANG DA SA TANAN.

tumandok
September 29th, 2008, 10:16 PM
mga migs musta na da. migs tumandok daw indi gid ni kami kasulod sa bakbakan kay mga linghod gid to amon stags bilin. ti laban laban basi ma entry kami day pre nonong da kag migs grazi 2 ka entries tanan kag kon puede pa iban stags basi 3 tanan ka entries. hambalan ko to si rey nga mang imbitar sa iban nga may mga banded nga stags man didto parti dumangas kag barotac nuevo. goodluck. basi sa ugbap 8 stags na lang kami maka entra para segurado gid ang preparasyon kay alang alang gid ang amon nga pag saylo.

MUSTA LANG DA SA TANAN.

mayo gani imo kay linghod lang mga stags mo. ang iban ya, ubos gid ni frank. hehehe.

may bullstags pa man.

madamu nga salamat sa pagsuporta sa pabulang sang TH....

xtian07
September 29th, 2008, 10:29 PM
updated 2008 pics on my friendster account, click on the link below gudday:)

klamy
September 29th, 2008, 10:41 PM
matamwa lg ko........mayung gabe sa tanan

jrb.uk
September 29th, 2008, 11:35 PM
kamusta lang to jrb..........................tahom manok mo to ..................
PERO MAS TAHUM PA GID NA ANG SA AVATAR MO DAMO KA PA NA TO...HATAGI MAN KO HEHEHEHEHE

jrb.uk
September 29th, 2008, 11:37 PM
Originally Posted by jrb.uk
to dante mangkot lang ko ano gid bala ang schedule sang stag paderby ka iccc?? dec.27 kun dec 30??

toto joe,

wala bulang ang dec 30? tingwaon ta nga matigayon sa dec 29. para *** ka. hehehe
ALANG-ALANG MAN GYAPON SA 29 TO DANTE SA 30 GID ABOT KO SA CAPIZ.......AMO GID NA NGA ADLAW ANG 29 ABOT KO MANILA....BISAN ANO LANG DA MADANGTAN AH....BAWI GALING TA SA CAPIZ HEHEHEHEHE

jrb.uk
September 30th, 2008, 12:01 AM
Pasaka Ko Lang Maayong Hapon Sa Tanan....

bebs espinosa
September 30th, 2008, 12:05 AM
ALANG-ALANG MAN GYAPON SA 29 TO DANTE SA 30 GID ABOT KO SA CAPIZ.......AMO GID NA NGA ADLAW ANG 29 ABOT KO MANILA....BISAN ANO LANG DA MADANGTAN AH....BAWI GALING TA SA CAPIZ HEHEHEHEHE


27 palang lakat kana e, para kahingabot kaw....hehehehehehe

warl26
September 30th, 2008, 02:22 AM
wala tahu haw,,,, pasakaun ta

jrb.uk
September 30th, 2008, 03:06 AM
27 palang lakat kana e, para kahingabot kaw....hehehehehehe
27 na gani ako malakat halin dire galing kay may stop over sa qatar 18 hours lang ah....hehehehehe 29 kaaganhon abot sa pinas....endi magsugot si kumander nga mauna ko puli hehehehehe

devonloch
September 30th, 2008, 03:31 AM
Mayad lang gabii sa tanan...

jrb.uk
September 30th, 2008, 03:51 AM
wala ka obra to aloy??

devonloch
September 30th, 2008, 03:52 AM
Bag o lang ako abot halin sa obra

Pahuway-huway anay ah

Bwas 9am paman obra ko asta alas dos,then nytshift asta Wed. nyt...
wala ka obra to aloy??

devonloch
September 30th, 2008, 04:22 AM
NEWS UPDATE!!!


Bag-o ko lang ma istorya si Chito migo tumandok. Siling niya ginhambalan ya man kuno si Edna nga batonon lang ang magpa reserba sang date sa derby ugaling pangayuan kuno sang 10K nga deposito para nga maka segurado sila. Ti kon mangayo sila basi may pondo man ang tribu nga idesponer dira. Segurado naman nga madayon ining aton nga derby ti ibuhin na lang inang 10K sa arkila.

Siling pa niya nga kuha-an anay sang tax ang gross income pagkatapos mag 30 - 70 ang partihanay. Net income na naton inang 70% kay waay na kita sang dapat pa nga balayran. Kon gusto ta kuno nga magbutang tawo sa gate ti aton na ina iya nga gastos.

Nangayo man ko bulig sa iya nga lawag-lawagon ya man sa bulangan ang aton nga pa derby. Ti lihog lang ko remind sa iya kada may bulang para nga indi siya malipat maglawag. Huya lang ko ugaling mangayo entry sa iya kay basi mag reklamo naman siya nga indi man makasaran iya nga pusta.

moxxx2000
September 30th, 2008, 04:50 AM
Migo Jon, lihog abi ako putang sang bug-at nila, basi pwidi dira ang mga banded ko nga mga pabo ko kag pitaw.. salamat gid.....la pa post parte sa weyt a..pero guro 1700 to 2400 ina...ask ta karon a...post ta di dayon...;)

JericP
September 30th, 2008, 05:23 AM
Toto JericP sa diin ni subong ang imo nga bukay ka gwapa sa iya ba basi pwede ma remedyo na.

toto gil diri ni sya sa US ang bokay kursunada mo .............

maayong adlaw lang sa tanan..

toto gil may *** si utol avaiable dink sweater ..............

Torpas
September 30th, 2008, 05:39 AM
maayong adlaw sa tanan bangod sa saylo sang balay will be out until thurs bangod sa internet connention.hop inde ako ma mia:D

moxxx2000
September 30th, 2008, 05:43 AM
maayong adlaw sa tanan bangod sa saylo sang balay will be out until thurs bangod sa internet connention.hop inde ako ma mia:Dhehehe toto Jun maayo lang kai na inform mo dayon ba..*** daan si toto Eric naga hulat sa babaw ho...maayong lawas dira sa imo toto Jun a..amo man sa imo toto eric...

tebs69
September 30th, 2008, 06:05 AM
To tebs,
kamusta ka da / Magulang na ni Tilo si Butch (General Supapo)?

Good day lang kag kamusta sa tanan !!:)


to rab


maayo man, salamat gid.. kamusta ka man da ?..... daw manghod ya pa bala si Gen. Butchoy S..

romy 3388
September 30th, 2008, 07:08 AM
PERO MAS TAHUM PA GID NA ANG SA AVATAR MO DAMO KA PA NA TO...HATAGI MAN KO HEHEHEHEHE




kabalo kaman nga daw indi ako kabalibad sa imo pero ti dakpon mo guid ako
to sa manokan kay indi mani ihatag lang kon wala ko to ............hihhihihihihihi........

omar & milo
September 30th, 2008, 07:52 AM
makikiraan po sino po d2 ang taga barotac nuevo...my dad po kc taga dun xa....hotillosa-mirador po kami

Gilavar888
September 30th, 2008, 07:54 AM
toto gil diri ni sya sa US ang bokay kursunada mo .............

maayong adlaw lang sa tanan..

toto gil may *** si utol avaiable dink sweater ..............

Toto JericP ang pares nga bokay sa sunod na lang nga naog ko ah!! suptan ko anay tama lang ra sa jan.antis candelaria.

sige reserve na lang to kanakon ang dinkfair oct.15 naog ron ako indi gani basi 1st week ka dya ipabuol ko dun..

bebotzar
September 30th, 2008, 09:56 AM
mangamusta lang ko sa tanan nga ari diri.

JericP
September 30th, 2008, 10:15 AM
Toto JericP ang pares nga bokay sa sunod na lang nga naog ko ah!! suptan ko anay tama lang ra sa jan.antis candelaria.

sige reserve na lang to kanakon ang dinkfair oct.15 naog ron ako indi gani basi 1st week ka dya ipabuol ko dun..

toto gil ayos anytime pwede na to kawa-on kay utol amang............

JericP
September 30th, 2008, 10:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Torpas
maayong adlaw sa tanan bangod sa saylo sang balay will be out until thurs bangod sa internet connention.hop inde ako ma mia

hehehe toto Jun maayo lang kai na inform mo dayon ba..*** daan si toto Eric naga hulat sa babaw ho...maayong lawas dira sa imo toto Jun a..amo man sa imo toto eric...


hehehheh toto torpas copy imo post nde ta ikaw pag himo-an sang MIA :D

DINOPATANI
September 30th, 2008, 10:27 AM
si bagyo PABLO naga padolong na diri sa western visayas................. ti ari huh, mahinay lang pero daw wala untat na ang ulan...................

kahapon lang kami naka tapos sab-ug di sa ubos blay............

subong naman ang didto sa banwa (kanday Ma'am)..........................

nye-he-he................. kon mapatay sang jelu ang kohol ti basi pa man lang maka butwa man ah....................

ga hingagaw pa ko kopya sang dalal-un ni Ronel sa Thursday.......................

ang kay toto moxx ya idasun ko lang ah..........

DINOPATANI
September 30th, 2008, 10:31 AM
kon maka tyempo ko ma sed-ing man ta ka away ka manuk ni migo gwapo kag ang kay bomba star ah................

kabay nga mayad ang result ka elims nanda agud maka dr8so na sa finals..............

easy goer
September 30th, 2008, 11:14 AM
kon maka tyempo ko ma sed-ing man ta ka away ka manuk ni migo gwapo kag ang kay bomba star ah................

kabay nga mayad ang result ka elims nanda agud maka dr8so na sa finals..............


tay dino mayad nga aga lang da sa imu..gina try ko tawgan imu cellphone wala mo gina sabat..

Ilongongpalos
September 30th, 2008, 11:19 AM
si bagyo PABLO naga padolong na diri sa western visayas................. ti ari huh, mahinay lang pero daw wala untat na ang ulan...................

kahapon lang kami naka tapos sab-ug di sa ubos blay............

subong naman ang didto sa banwa (kanday Ma'am)..........................

nye-he-he................. kon mapatay sang jelu ang kohol ti basi pa man lang maka butwa man ah....................

ga hingagaw pa ko kopya sang dalal-un ni Ronel sa Thursday.......................

ang kay toto moxx ya idasun ko lang ah..........

To Dino kamusta na dire baw may bagyo naman sa aton!!!! Lihog lang ako sang amon Order nga DVD salamat padala kolang ang kuarta kay Abner sa bitoon...san-o mabalik dire si toto Ronel?

DINOPATANI
September 30th, 2008, 12:09 PM
To Dino kamusta na dire baw may bagyo naman sa aton!!!! Lihog lang ako sang amon Order nga DVD salamat padala kolang ang kuarta kay Abner sa bitoon...san-o mabalik dire si toto Ronel?

sa Thursday ang iya halin d sa Iloilo.............

ang mga dvd nga dala nya:

Jeric P------------------ PAGBA kag Cabatuan nga 5-stags.....................
IP------------------------PAGBA 5 stag kag................... ambut kon Cabatuan atu okun PAGBA Bullstag???? nye-he-he............ ah............. balaha na

Easy Goer..................... PAGBA 5 stag kag Oton 4 cocks.............. gina sabat ko ikaw pero daw sa indi mo goro ako ma bati-an?????................... ambut kay may bagyo na naman ga pasolod diri ti basi amu na rason nga indi mu ko bati-an...............

baskug kono ini, daw 180 kph bala?????

ang pista sa Mina sa October 12....................... ti kada pista diri iya........... pirme lang may ulan........................

wala ako entry kay wala man ti manuk..................... Oct 10 may yara soila 4 kax.......... Oct 11 may yara 3 kax............ kag sa Oct 12 may yara 2 kax..................

ah, indi man gani takun mag lantaw to sa bulangan..................... ma sugab kami ya ka fantat kag ikug ka vavz sa higad-higad ah......................

easy goer
September 30th, 2008, 12:17 PM
sa Thursday ang iya halin d sa Iloilo.............

ang mga dvd nga dala nya:

Jeric P------------------ PAGBA kag Cabatuan nga 5-stags.....................
IP------------------------PAGBA 5 stag kag................... ambut kon Cabatuan atu okun PAGBA Bullstag???? nye-he-he............ ah............. balaha na

Easy Goer..................... PAGBA 5 stag kag Oton 4 cocks.............. gina sabat ko ikaw pero daw sa indi mo goro ako ma bati-an?????................... ambut kay may bagyo na naman ga pasolod diri ti basi amu na rason nga indi mu ko bati-an...............

baskug kono ini, daw 180 kph bala?????

ang pista sa Mina sa October 12....................... ti kada pista diri iya........... pirme lang may ulan........................

wala ako entry kay wala man ti manuk..................... Oct 10 may yara soila 4 kax.......... Oct 11 may yara 3 kax............ kag sa Oct 12 may yara 2 kax..................

ah, indi man gani takun mag lantaw to sa bulangan..................... ma sugab kami ya ka fantat kag ikug ka vavz sa higad-higad ah......................


basi amu na ang rason..kay di gid ko kabati sa imu..daw katatlo na ko mag tawag daw amu man gihapon..patawhayan ko lang danay kay matawag lang ko liwat..

ihatag ko lang kay nong palos akon bayad kay itingub lang sa iya..pila to gani tay dino akon tanan? P1000?

DINOPATANI
September 30th, 2008, 12:32 PM
basi amu na ang rason..kay di gid ko kabati sa imu..daw katatlo na ko mag tawag daw amu man gihapon..patawhayan ko lang danay kay matawag lang ko liwat..

ihatag ko lang kay nong palos akon bayad kay itingub lang sa iya..pila to gani tay dino akon tanan? P1000?

Oks ah....................... kay ronel daw completo gid iya nga dala..................... ti kon may burner kamu da................. pwede man kamu na lang mass production para sa tropa ta da

Rabatak
September 30th, 2008, 01:42 PM
pasaka-on ko lang !!
maayong adlaw/gab-i sa tanan !!:)

luis
September 30th, 2008, 01:44 PM
pasaka-on ko lang !!
maayong adlaw/gab-i sa tanan !!:)


Toto Rab&Sam happy holiday dira sa inyo......maayong lawas man sa tanan nga ICCC member......

Rabatak
September 30th, 2008, 01:52 PM
to rab


maayo man, salamat gid.. kamusta ka man da ?..... daw manghod ya pa bala si Gen. Butchoy S..

To Tebs,

Thanks man ah.Ramadan Holiday ,4 days ti medyo makapahuway-huway sang obra.
KIT-KIT lang ta sini!!(ka-on,inom,tulog)2:)

Nakameet kami sang una ni Butch ,pagtraining ya sa Bangladesh...:cool:

Rabatak
September 30th, 2008, 02:00 PM
Toto Rab&Sam happy holiday dira sa inyo......maayong lawas man sa tanan nga ICCC member......

happy Holiday man dira sa inyo, Toto Luis !!

tebs69
September 30th, 2008, 02:08 PM
To Tebs,

Thanks man ah.Ramadan Holiday ,4 days ti medyo makapahuway-huway sang obra.
KIT-KIT lang ta sini!!(ka-on,inom,tulog)2:)

Nakameet kami sang una ni Butch ,pagtraining ya sa Bangladesh...:cool:


to rab


pista ka mga kanding .... ka training gali si butch sa bangladesh, isa nila ka manghod manog general man, muna tag iya gid ka n3 nga TRI-AL kg sila ni ni Engr ang ga partner sa farm, 150 ang munga nila subong nga season gamiton .. asawa ni Engr pakaisa ni nanay, silveo ...

Rabatak
September 30th, 2008, 02:19 PM
to rab


pista ka mga kanding .... ka training gali si butch sa bangladesh, isa nila ka manghod manog general man, muna tag iya gid ka n3 nga TRI-AL kg sila ni ni Engr ang ga partner sa farm, 150 ang munga nila subong nga season gamiton .. asawa ni Engr pakaisa ni nanay, silveo ...

Toto tebs,

Muslim Eid Holiday worldwide...so ceasefire anay sila diri,hehe

Nadala na si Gen. Butch sa first batch nga nagtraining didto,sya lang isa pinoy.Upod ya mga halin man sa asian countries,6 months sila didto sang '99 bala .
Si Bagoy ,ang manghod,naka C.O. man ina sa Jibolo...

moxxx2000
September 30th, 2008, 02:24 PM
to rab


pista ka mga kanding .... ka training gali si butch sa bangladesh, isa nila ka manghod manog general man, muna tag iya gid ka n3 nga TRI-AL kg sila ni ni Engr ang ga partner sa farm, 150 ang munga nila subong nga season gamiton .. asawa ni Engr pakaisa ni nanay, silveo ...ay abaw sa pag ka damo nga munga..maka pa guwa lang sing tig 10 kada munga..mga 1,500 ka pisu ang production ba..sa diin ina ila farm toto tebs?..

ronald labordo
September 30th, 2008, 02:37 PM
tay dino may PM ako sa imo kay ma order man ako isa ka set sang 5 stag pagba derby..ambot kon makahingagaw kay toto ronel ang mga cd just let me know..ok..tanxs

ronald labordo
September 30th, 2008, 02:38 PM
toto moxxx musta kana? long tym no chat ah..hehehehe..halong lng da permi ah..

warl26
September 30th, 2008, 02:41 PM
migo ebay panagu da, hehehehe.,,,,,,, mayung hapun kag aga sa tanan,,,,,,,:D

DINOPATANI
September 30th, 2008, 02:46 PM
tay dino may PM ako sa imo kay ma order man ako isa ka set sang 5 stag pagba derby..ambot kon makahingagaw kay toto ronel ang mga cd just let me know..ok..tanxs

ok, swerte nga nagbukas pa ko nternet tolad ba............... palagas ko bwas ah

devonloch
September 30th, 2008, 03:25 PM
Maayong adlaw lang sa tanan...

jrb.uk
September 30th, 2008, 03:37 PM
maayong adlaw sa tanan....sibaw-sibaw lang ko anay di sa payag....

guapo
September 30th, 2008, 03:39 PM
maayong hapon sa tanan!

perth
September 30th, 2008, 03:44 PM
Ma-ayong lawas sa tanan.... lapit na lang ko mapuli....:D:D:D

pautog23
September 30th, 2008, 03:49 PM
maayong hapon sa tanan!
maaayo hapan man sa imo toto ken

pautog23
September 30th, 2008, 03:53 PM
Ma-ayong lawas sa tanan.... lapit na lang ko mapuli....:D:D:D

guapo
September 30th, 2008, 03:57 PM
maaayo hapan man sa imo toto ken

gud day migs..gaulan-ulan d sa aton subong bilog nga adlaw!

guapo
September 30th, 2008, 03:58 PM
Ma-ayong lawas sa tanan.... lapit na lang ko mapuli....:D:D:D

maayong hapon nong perth!

jrb.uk
September 30th, 2008, 04:00 PM
nagdamo na dayon tawo ba...naglangoy lang ko ddto sa isa ka suba pagbalik ko di sa payag damo na taho.....kmusta lang sa tanan nga online....

pautog23
September 30th, 2008, 04:02 PM
gud day migs..gaulan-ulan d sa aton subong bilog nga adlaw!
mai bagyo namn cgro ma nog abot da maayo tani kun nd lang mag saka ang tubig sa taytay

bogoy
September 30th, 2008, 04:05 PM
MIGO TEBS,

BUTA NA ANG KAHUN,,, ANG GANTANGAN MU LIHUG ABI..ULA HE.EHE.HE.HE

ebaY
September 30th, 2008, 04:18 PM
tay dino may PM ako sa imo kay ma order man ako isa ka set sang 5 stag pagba derby..ambot kon makahingagaw kay toto ronel ang mga cd just let me know..ok..tanxs

bc guid mga megs ah, maayung lawas sa tanan....:D

pre ronald.......ang pure $5000 i deretso na lng sa Bitoon ah kay buta na ang breeding pen ko didto.... bayluhan ina ni moxxx sang lieper whitelegs ah..........pares ato no?

ang pure posssum lng ang akon...hehehe

ebaY
September 30th, 2008, 04:22 PM
migo ebay panagu da, hehehehe.,,,,,,, mayung hapun kag aga sa tanan,,,,,,,:D

pangabuhian anay unahon ta bag-o ang lkalingawan ta.... hahaha

matika tika lng ko kay daw medyu bc pa...:D

moxxx2000
September 30th, 2008, 05:13 PM
bc guid mga megs ah, maayung lawas sa tanan....:D

pre ronald.......ang pure $5000 i deretso na lng sa Bitoon ah kay buta na ang breeding pen ko didto.... bayluhan ina ni moxxx sang lieper whitelegs ah..........pares ato no?

ang pure posssum lng ang akon...heheheahmmmmmmmmm...ano naman ini nga issue?:eek:

fred manero
September 30th, 2008, 05:54 PM
ahmmmmmmmmm...ano naman ini nga issue?:eek:


toto moxxx maayo lang nga panakayon da musta lang da sa imo, malapit lapit na siguro puli mo di sa pinas, musta man sa tanan diri sa payag sang ICCC...

moxxx2000
September 30th, 2008, 05:55 PM
pangabuhian anay unahon ta bag-o ang lkalingawan ta.... hahaha

matika tika lng ko kay daw medyu bc pa...:Dkadto ka sa famous breeder kai ikaw to ang bag-o sibul nga breeder...:D

yokers
September 30th, 2008, 06:00 PM
gud eve mga to!!!!gud luck sa ugba sa friday, best of luck to ken.,,sa imu ang gloria pre.,hehehehehe

ebaY
September 30th, 2008, 06:05 PM
kadto ka sa famous breeder kai ikaw to ang bag-o sibul nga breeder...:D

didto ko na gani ipadeliver ang $5000 sa Bitoon?
o ipakuha ko kay Tagoy?
o gusto mo i personal mo kuhaon didto sa tagbak pag pauli ni maestro amo sa October 5?
inde na lng ako sang lieper whitelegs mo ah..., basta first 5 stags.... akon next year?

ano sa imo?

ebaY
September 30th, 2008, 06:13 PM
kadto ka sa famous breeder kai ikaw to ang bag-o sibul nga breeder...:D

diin ka na?
nag wangwang naman cguro and radyo mo?
o nagkuha ka naman job order?:D

moxxx2000
September 30th, 2008, 06:15 PM
toto moxxx maayo lang nga panakayon da musta lang da sa imo, malapit lapit na siguro puli mo di sa pinas, musta man sa tanan diri sa payag sang ICCC...ok lang toto fred a..thanks..pa kadto kami subong sa Singapore and pag abot namon didto sa Sabado sang 10pm..sa aga Domingo ma puli na ako a...maka himas naman ka manok ta.hehehe

moxxx2000
September 30th, 2008, 06:21 PM
didto ko na gani ipadeliver ang $5000 sa Bitoon?
o ipakuha ko kay Tagoy?
o gusto mo i personal mo kuhaon didto sa tagbak pag pauli ni maestro amo sa October 5?
inde na lng ako sang lieper whitelegs mo ah..., basta first 5 stags.... akon next year?

ano sa imo?imported ina haw?basi bala indi haw?...nugon time ta sang breed:eek:

jrb.uk
September 30th, 2008, 06:33 PM
sibaw-sibaw lang kita kun ano maayo nga balita di sa payag....

ebaY
September 30th, 2008, 07:10 PM
imported ina haw?basi bala indi haw?...nugon time ta sang breed:eek:

imbes na ihatag ni ronald sa akon, hatag ko na lang sa imo, kuhaa lng dira sa tagbak pag pauli mo sa oct. 5 ok? pares ato nga pure $5000 line kuno?

guapo
September 30th, 2008, 08:01 PM
gud evenin' sa tanan!pasakaon ta kay daw nadalman

tanglad84
September 30th, 2008, 08:11 PM
gud evenin' sa tanan!pasakaon ta kay daw nadalman



migo guapo...may ofis ka buas?...kon wala malusot ko da buas tapos pa car wash....

moxxx2000
September 30th, 2008, 08:58 PM
imbes na ihatag ni ronald sa akon, hatag ko na lang sa imo, kuhaa lng dira sa tagbak pag pauli mo sa oct. 5 ok? pares ato nga pure $5000 line kuno?a ti ok a...basta ikaw mag rikwis *** dayon a

devonloch
September 30th, 2008, 09:20 PM
Maayong hapon sa tanan...

romy 3388
September 30th, 2008, 09:23 PM
setember 30 / etulod ta ni kay kasapnot guid daw malamala guid...hi,hi,hi,hi,hi

Rabatak
September 30th, 2008, 10:11 PM
bulig lang ko pasaka,ah !!

Gilavar888
September 30th, 2008, 10:45 PM
Pasakaun ko na gid!!

bebotzar
September 30th, 2008, 10:56 PM
musta lang sa tanan nga ari diri.

romy 3388
September 30th, 2008, 11:15 PM
Pasakaun ko na gid!!





ti iduso ta bala , kay kasapnot mani...................hi,hi,hi,hi,...

jrb.uk
September 30th, 2008, 11:34 PM
batakon ko anay kay daw luslos na....

redux
October 1st, 2008, 12:17 AM
batakon ko anay kay daw luslos na....

to Joe musta ka dyan...buligan ta ka batak....

easy goer
October 1st, 2008, 12:26 AM
bulig man ko pasaka a.

jrb.uk
October 1st, 2008, 12:34 AM
to Joe musta ka dyan...buligan ta ka batak....
mayad man ko di toto red ah....hulat ka naman sini sa sabado balbalanay dira sa coliseum....enjoy sa bulang kag more daug...

jrb.uk
October 1st, 2008, 12:44 AM
off ka na to aloy?? buas ko lang ihulog aton share sa banko....night shift pa ko karon...

devonloch
October 1st, 2008, 12:45 AM
Off na pero may obra naman dugay-dugay

Nytshift man ako asta bwas

:D
off ka na to aloy?? buas ko lang ihulog aton share sa banko....night shift pa ko karon...

romy 3388
October 1st, 2008, 12:55 AM
setember 30 / etulod ta ni kay kasapnot guid daw malamala guid...hi,hi,hi,hi,hi




ti daw maayo man kay naga danlog man gali kon maumpisahan
sang hagi ka duso,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,hi,hi,hi,hi,hi, ................

redux
October 1st, 2008, 12:56 AM
mayad man ko di toto red ah....hulat ka naman sini sa sabado balbalanay dira sa coliseum....enjoy sa bulang kag more daug...

baw dali na lang gali toto Joe..ti indi ta ni ka pusta sa mga migo ta kay ari ta di subong ga pang arado balod...ma cheer lang kita eh...

romy 3388
October 1st, 2008, 12:59 AM
ti daw maayo man kay naga danlog man gali kon maumpisahan
sang hagi ka duso,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,hi,hi,hi,hi,hi, ................


naga inabot man gali ang manga sabonguero asta ang
indi masiado ka tahor pareho ko.................waik.ikik..........

Ilongongpalos
October 1st, 2008, 01:06 AM
Maayong adlaw sa tanan!!! Mahulat naman kita huganas sang inyo mga hangaway dire!!! Gudluck sa may mga n3.

jrb.uk
October 1st, 2008, 01:11 AM
baw dali na lang gali toto Joe..ti indi ta ni ka pusta sa mga migo ta kay ari ta di subong ga pang arado balod...ma cheer lang kita eh...
nagbalik ka na dayon?? baw ah te, sa sunod naman nga bulan puli ah....hehehehe

redux
October 1st, 2008, 01:22 AM
nagbalik ka na dayon?? baw ah te, sa sunod naman nga bulan puli ah....hehehehe

anhon mo kay isa ma lang ka bulan vacation ta..segi lang ah 3weeks na lang makapuli naman ko ah...enjoy naman ta ka pamulang....hehehe

jackvegas
October 1st, 2008, 02:41 AM
lampuwas na sa unos... may *** na naman bagyo nga sugataon:D .. pa tsek lng ko atendans ahhhh...

kmusta lng mga amigos ko... basa-basa ta dri anay.....

jackvegas
October 1st, 2008, 03:00 AM
mego gil.......... HAPPY SEAMAN 's day SA TANAN NGA SEAFERERS.... SA KAY MOXX , JACKVEGAS, NUNG DOMSKIE, REDUX, WARL,PAUTOG,FEDLU KAG SA WALA KO MA MENTION NGA BROTHER in sports.... THIS IS YOUr DAY..:)

salamat sa pagdumdum migo bal........;) gud luck sa pasundayag mo sa sunod nga mga inadlaw...

omar & milo
October 1st, 2008, 03:16 AM
sino po d2 taga barotac nuevo???

bebotzar
October 1st, 2008, 03:18 AM
farm lang namin nasa btac nuevo ,pero taga jaro kami bro.
sino po d2 taga barotac nuevo???

tebs69
October 1st, 2008, 04:45 AM
kamusta sa tanan....




itib-ong ko lang ang payag ...

tebs69
October 1st, 2008, 04:51 AM
MIGO TEBS,

BUTA NA ANG KAHUN,,, ANG GANTANGAN MU LIHUG ABI..ULA HE.EHE.HE.HE


migo bogoy


ginbuhinan ko na 1 ka hakop .... puede ka na ka huwad...hehehee

tebs69
October 1st, 2008, 05:00 AM
ay abaw sa pag ka damo nga munga..maka pa guwa lang sing tig 10 kada munga..mga 1,500 ka pisu ang production ba..sa diin ina ila farm toto tebs?..




toto moxxx

lapitay lang manukan namon, ga lantawanay lang sa tabuk banglid ... muna lang gani bilin kay gin phase-out nila Cowan RH nga halin kay LDT , kon wala 200+ munga nila .. daku nga quantity target nila , damu buyer sa luzon ..

tumandok
October 1st, 2008, 05:18 AM
27 na gani ako malakat halin dire galing kay may stop over sa qatar 18 hours lang ah....hehehehehe 29 kaaganhon abot sa pinas....endi magsugot si kumander nga mauna ko puli hehehehehe

siya maunahon mo eh. hehehe

tumandok
October 1st, 2008, 05:30 AM
Conditioning the Gamecock for Battle
By Narragansett 1985

1st section
Feeding
The matter of the ingredients contained in the keep feed has long been considered the great secret in preparing cocks for battle. I disagree.
My own experience indicates that the basic feed which a cock recieves in the three or four weeks prior to battle should vary but little from the feed to which he has been accustomed throughout his lifetime. Any wide deoarture from his normal diet cannot materially increase his strength, and in all probability will upset his digestive apparatus to the point where he will have les strength than he possessed prior to the introduction of the new feeds.
Consider this practical example: the Olympic games bring together the finest conditioned atheletes in the world. The Americans have their diet, the Russians have theirs, the Africans have theirs, the Japanese have still another. Yet they all win. However, everyone will agree that if in the last few weeks before the competition any of them had changed his diet to the one used by the champion from another continent, all he would have got out of it would have been a stomach ache and defeat. The same applies to keep feeds for roosters. Stick to the diet to which they are accustomed.
My basic feed consists of:
40% soaked race horse oats. Soaked in wooden barrles or plastic Ash cans out in the sun for three or four days so they begin to sour.
20% whole corn
10% dry race horse oats
7 1/2 % wheat
7 1/2 % Milo
5% sunflower seed
10% laying pellets
I mix up the dry feed and store in a barrel, then mix in the soaked oats just before feeding. This mixture is put together by using a good sized pan for measuring and dumping the grain in a big pail where it is mixed, then dump the pailful into a 55 gallon oil drum where it is mixed some more. The chickens get this feed from 12 weeks on as long as they live. That way they become accustomed to eating whoile corn which is the best way to feed this grain. In cold weather the proportion of whole corn is increased up to 40% of the total and the soaked oats reduced. In the keep feed I cut way down on the soaked oats but don,t eliminate them entirely. It is interesting to observe the reaction of the fowl to this grain mixture. In hot weather the whole corn is the last thing they eat, whereas in cold weather they gobble up every kernel of whole corn before they touch any of the other grains. I am a great respecter of nature, and endeavor to go along with it just as far as I possibly can in everything pertaining to the feeding and care of the fowl. You will notice that this basic feed which I use is heavy in sour and whole oats. This makes for prolonged slow growth and late maturity. Both features are desirable in growing young stock. Flesh and fat can be acquired in a relatively short period of time, but strong bone development and strong ligaments and sinews require time. You cannot hurry them. The longer you can keep young stock growing, the tougher and stronger their bone and sinew structure will be at maturity. It is far better to have stags strong and husky in April than it is to have them fully matured in September.
"Fresh green grass is No.1 feed in the world for chickens, especially from 8 weeks old until cooped, and all during the precondition and the Keep. The soaked sour oats described previously are next best. The more sour the better. Be sure to feed them from 12 weeks old, and forever after."

There are certain things in the conditioning feed line which you can do to advantage:
(1) If your usual feed is of poor quality, mix up the same ingredients from good quality grains.
(2) Blow out the dust and chaf by winnowing it in the open air.
There's nothing beneficial about dirt and husks. But don't put in alot of new grains.
(3) There are certain things which increase the appetite and aid the digestion. Anything which does this in a noraml natural way is good. But don't go to extremes. Strychnine will develop a voracious appetite, but it also stimulates other activities to the point where it does more harm than good. I've tried it but abandoned the practice. Certain so-called conditioning powders are designed to increase the appetite and are okay. For years I"ve used what the boys call my "Black Magic" for such purposes. It's easy to put together and cheap. The recipe appears at the end of this section.
(4) There are certain other additives that help, but use all of them sparingly.
(a) a Little wheat germ oil mixed in the grain stimulates the sex impulses which is good. Use once a day for the last week or ten days
(b) Do the same with cod liver oil at the other daily feeding.
Just a little. When using these ingredients feed in cups, not on the ground where the moist grain picks up dirt and filth.
(c) Raw eggs are good. They're a natural food. Mix up one in your grain to every four or five cocks once a day or even twice a day. The last three days use the white only of a hard boiled egg to every three cocks. Add it to your grain feed.
(d) Some people add a little concentrated Beef Extract as put out by Wilson and Company a few times during the keep. This is okay but I never saw that it did much good.
(e) A noon feed of chopped apple, chopped onion, chopped lettuce is good. Not much. Just a little.
Occasionally add a little chopped up cooked lean beef. Feed all of this in a cup. Not too much. If they don't eat it all in ten minutes, take it away and throw it out.
(f) Many good feeders use buttermilk on all their feeds. You might try it. If they like it, it means their systems require this ingredient, if they don't forget it and give them their regular feed.
(g) A little calf-manna mixed in your grain feed is good. About a teaspoon full to the cock once a day. You can get it at any grain or feed store. I consider it okay. Mix in a little layer pellets if the fowl like them.
(h) The last three days, keep cocks in cock house and feed mostly corn and hard boiled white of eggs. But just add more corn to your regular grain feed, don't feed corn exclusively. And by all means during this time feed less rather than more. Not more than two-thirds of what you have been feeding. You want your cocks hungry when they enter the pit.

There are countless drugs, steroids and other stuff which feeders try to increase the strength or desire or speedor something. I've tried all the ones I ever heard of but abandoned them all. Many people feel they are not really "conditioning" a bird unless they feed something extra. If you are one of them, here are a few thins you can do which probably will do no harm:
Add some bean sprouts chopped up fresh from the chinese restaurant to the noon vegetable feeding. Some cocks will not eat them, but if they do it is good for them.
Add a little brown sugar, or still better, some honey to their feed the last week. Both are strengthening and produce energy.
Some people feel they must add bone meal and fish meal to their feed the first ten days. This is okay, if fresh but if sour or rancid they could throw the cocks off their feed.
Others think the cocks should drink toast water or barley water instead of plain fresh water.

I don't have time to bother with any of these things, but if you wish to do so , go ahead. I doubt if they do much good, but they will do no harm.
Sometimes I add some concentrated gelatin, sugar and milk prepared in a double boiler and then cooled in a pan until it solidifies. Cut up little cubes about 3/4 inches and add to feed. This puts on weight like everything. Adds energy. Use only the last four or five days, especially in cold weather. Some people swear by it. " The formula--2 ounces knox gelatin, four ounces sugar, 2 cups milk."

Of far greater importance than what you feed is how much you feed. As one old master said, "The feed cup is the key to the keep." Cocks must be kept hungry, active, alert, and scratching throughout the keep. At every feed they should be "hitting the bottom of the cup" and making it rattle on their cock stalls. If they don't clean up every grain in five minutes and start looking for more, your feeding too much. If any individual cock leaves anything in his cup by the end of this time, take away his cup and feed less the next meal.
To feed accurately you need a feed cup which has a flat top so that you know exactly how much you are feeding. A whiskey higger is okay or one those little plastic measures which come in coffee cans. The important thing is for you to know exactly how much you are feeding. Every one-fourth ounce makes a difference. Measuring by a spoon or a handful is no good. Not accurate enough. Find out exactly how much your measure holds by weighing its contents of your dry grain mix on the scales and then feed a little or a little less than a cupful. Usually about 1 1/8th or 1 1/4th ounces is a normal feed twice a day. But the important thing is for you to know how much you are feeding and not be guessing at it. After that, note how each individual cock reponds to his feed, as indicated by his appetite and his weight, and measure his feed accordingly. But ever and always have him "hitting the bottom of the cup" and looking for more. It is far better to feed too little than too much. You wont increase his strength by feeding morethan he can digest quickly. You'll only make him sluggish and upset.
Keeping in mind that the purpose of any keep is tohave a cock (1) fresh (2) alert (3) active (4) confident and (5) happy. If anything in this keep or any other one interferes with those objectives, abandon the practices or the feed which you think is causing the trouble and do something else. No set schedule or formula will cover all conditions of weather, state of health and flesh, temperament of cocks, etc. You must appraise all these things as you go along by observing the cocks and noting their responses to what you are feeding or what you are doing to them. I'm a great believer in changing the cock's location frequently during the keep. Coops on green grass one day, fly-pen another, regular small pen with dirt or sand bottom the next, etc. Such changes keep them fresh and eager. Whenever the weather is favorable, I like to keep them outdoors during the daytime.
I'm not afraid of getting them "loose" on fresh grass provided they have been on grass prior to entering the keep. It keeps them fresh. You wouldn't like to be shut up in a close, hot stall and neither do they. It's the same on cold or windy or rainy days. Put them were they'll be most comfortable. Don't be a slave to a schedule. Keep water in front of them all the time until the last 24 or 48 hours before fight time, then give them less depending upon the weather. I do like to keep them quiet and resting the last three days or 72 hours prior to their fight, but use judgement on this too and by all means have them comfortable and happy.
What you feed, how much you feed , when and how you exercise the cocks will vary somewhat with every bunch you put up. Just keep in mind what you are trying to accomplish, as stated previously, by observing the reaction of the fowl to what you are feeding and doing, and dont be a robot to this or any other system.
During the entire keep, notice the droppings every day. They should be firm but soft. Not hard and dried up, but not watery either. If they are either, try to determine the cause and correct it. They are a sure sign of a cock's condition and his ability to assimilate his food. He will not prosper if his droppings are not right. Sometimes it is the feed that is the trouble. Other times it is caused by nervousness or environment.
Whatever the cause, try to eliminate it. No matter what feed or other procedure you are following, your fowl will be going down hill instead of improving if his droppings are off. One good conditioner i knew was called a "bowel man." He placed more stress on a fowl's droppings then upon any other indication of a bird's health. So pay attention to them. They are important. Toward the end of the keep the droppings should firm up somewhat due to the character of the feed and less water. Regulate both to bachieve the result. You will have to work that out for yourself. No formula can anticipate all the conditions which you will encounter during the keep.
The use of scales during the keep is important. Weigh each morning before the cock has been fed and when he has been without water all night. By weighing at that time you get a more accurate and uniform weighing.
Record such weight day by day on a chart right to the quarter ounce so you can determine whether a cock is gaining or losing weight which is a excellent indication of his health, and whether or not he is prospering on the quality and quantity of feed he is recieving. A cock should be at about his proper fighting weight when he enters the keep following a week or two of the preconditioning process. During the two week "keep" period I like to drop him off an ounce or two through the quality and quantity of feed during the early part of the keep, and then bring him up toward the end of the keep so that he weighs as much as when he entered the keepor an ounce or two more. Make such increases and decreases in weight gradually. Don't go to excessesin achieving such results. I he does not change, don't fret about it. Such uniformity in weight indicates that a cock is jus about right in weight, and you should not attempt to change it.
By all means concentrate on having a cock "coming up" in weight, health, spirit, , and freshness as the day of battle approaches. Note especially Spirit and Freshness. If the cock does not have those qualities the minute he enters the pit, and has become stale or "gone by" as some men express it, he is an almost certain loser no matter how much you have done for him during the preceding four weeks. Many good cockers make their selections on the day of the fight based largely on a cock's freshness and eagerness on fight day regardless of how he has shown in his previous sparring sessions.
I am a great believer in freshness and in having lots of moisture in a cocks tissues when fought. One excellent cocker I know who has a splendid record for setting down cutting cocks attributes much of his success to having cocks with a lot of moisture in their muscles. He actually forces in the moisture by feeding aloof oatmeal soaked in buttermilk, and alot od stale bread soaked in water. Personally, I think he overdoes this feature of feeding, but you can't argue with success. My own fowl have a splendid reputation for cutting, and I always have plenty of moisture in their systems. Certain it is that a cock will hit short and not "reach out" with his blows.
The matter of a cock's proper fighting weight is a topic of dispute among even the best conditioners. Some men like for a cock to carry two, four, or even six ounces more flesh than other equally good conditioners. Both win and apparently show equally strong and durable fowl. Some families, and especially round headed fowl, seem to require more meat on them than others. You don't want any gut fat in them . That's sure. But other than that you'll have to come to your own decision as to your fowl's proper fighting weight basd upon your experience and observations. In any event, approach this problem with an open mind and don't be a slave to the scales or preconceived ideas. Base your judgement on what you observe with your own fowl.

Timing
Probably the most inportant feature of the feeding, as well as all other procedures in the conditioning program, is that of timing, or of having the fowl at their peak at the hour of battle. It is no good to have them "ready" or at their peak, two days or even two hours prior to battle. They must "peak" at the hour they enter the pit. Many features contribute to this condition, but from a feeding standpoint the important part is to have them "comin up" just prior to battle, and fresh. To accomplish this you must feed less (mostly cracked corn), excercise less, and rest more-- complete rest the last 72 hours prior to battle. Not over one-half the feed the eveing before fight day unless fought at night and then only one-half white of hard boiled egg. Through this procedure, cocks will come up in weight, even on less feed, and be hungry and " a walkin' and talkin' in your hands" as they enter the pit.
Some conditioners endeavor to control this timing, or peaking, through the use of various drugs. I find that the best overall, and the most consistent, results are obtained by foloowing the procedure outlined here.
Black Magic
4oz. powdered charcoal
2oz. ground mustard
2oz. ground ginger
2 oz. red pepper
2 oz. cinnamon
1/2 oz. carbonate of iron (if obtainable)
Sprinkle liberally on moist feed like salt
"This is an appetite stimulator only. Use all during the keep."

Selection
The matter of selection of the fowl to be shown at a specific time is of the utmost importance to the cocker who wants to win. You have up a show of 12 birds from which you must show eight. Which ones should you use? In this respect, I always think of the advice given me by Elmer Ehrhart of York, Pennsylvania, over thirty years ago. He said : "Take only your Aces to the pit. Leave the Kings and Queens at home." Again: "Play no favorites, select your show from the ones which are "ready" today."On the negative side I often think of the advice given me by my father who said; "Many an attorney accepts a case which at first he thinks has no chance of success. But the more he works on the case he becomes convinced he has a chance, then when the verdict goes against him he is sunk." It is the same way with cocking. We put a second rate bird in the keep, but he improves and we "talk ourselves" into believing that he can win. But he doesn't.
So beware of "talking yourself" into a win. Rather follow the advice of old Elmer: "Take only the Aces to the pit." The Kings and Queens,well, use them for hacking or leave them at home. The chances are that they willmeet someone else's Ace and you will have a zero on the scoreboard.

Section 2
Taming
Taming a cock is a feature in the conditioning process most keeps omit entirely.
Personally, I consider it of the utmost importance. Just as important as the feed and exercise parts.
Probably more important. By means of feed and bench work you can't improve a cock's hpysical strength a great deal, but by proper taming you can improve his readiness for battle 1,000 percent. Look at it this way: You bring a cock which has been accustomed to quiet surroundings and familiar people into a strange place, slap a set of heels on him, then take him to a brilliantly lighted arena with a different sort of pit surface, and a mob of strangers raising a racket like a boiler factory and expect him to ignore all these strange sitghts and sounds and turn in a superb exhibition of fighting. Under similar circumstances great opera singers have been known to become distraught and they could not utter a sound.
Gamecocks react the same way. Especially the high-strung ones which have been all keyed up anyway. I've see high-class cocks so confused by all the noise, lights, and commotion that they would not even leave their scores, and were killed before they lifted a foot. Cocks can become accustomed to airplanes passing overhead or a barking dog racing along the fence, but it takes some time and it's up to you to get them aquainted with such surroundings. Here's how:
Start in early when you first select your show four weeks before fight day, and as you pass his coop, drop in a little piece of white bread about the size of a dime. In a few days he will be looking for the bread and learn that when you stop by his coop that you are not going to harm him but rather that you have something for him which he likes. Pretty soon most of them will take bread from your fingers. Fine. You have made a good start. If he doesn't , don't insist, but drop the bread gently before him and move on. He will tame down in time.
Whyen you have to catch the cock to move him from one pklace to another do so very gently. Take your time. Avoid getting him excited or making him wild. If he goes to ramming or flying around, leave him alone for a while and let him settle down. Then, when you get him in hand, pet him and rub him slowly and gently for a minute or so before placing him in his new quarters. When you do set him down, do it slowly and gently. Don't heave him into his new coop. Let him know that you are not going to hurt him, that he can have cinfidence in you. Offer him a bite of apple while you have him in hand, if he accepts it, so much the better.
Now when you first bring a stag into the conditioning house, that is a particularly critical time. Everything there is new to him. Take it slow and easy. always have some pieces of bread or chopped apple on the work bench for him. Place him gently on the work bench, let him look around and get aquainted with the place for 20- 25 seconds, keeping your hands on him gently all the time. Then, when he gets ready to walk around, as he will in a few seconds, walk around with him very slowly and gently.
He may even eastsome of the "goodies" you have placed there for him. But keep your hands on him gently all the time, and make no quick or fast moves. After a minute or so, lift him gently off the board, rub him for a few seconds, and then carefully ease him into his cock stall, releasing him slowly, and quietly close the door.
I've gone into this with much detail which sounds like kindergarten stuff, yet I know countless men who have been conditioning roosters for 60 years who to this moment have their twice a day "go-around" with the cocks in their care. They never fail to remark when they visit me how tame my birds are and what a tussle they have with theirs. My birds aren't tame. By nature they are not as tame as theirs are since mine are more high strung. It's all a matter of how you handle them, and particular, how you start in.
The first few times you taka a cock out of a conditioning stall is another critical time. Do this very quietly and very gently. By all means avoid getting him "het up" and flouncing around in there. Better to leave him in there than to get him all excited and fighting you. Sometimes you can divert his attention with feed in his cup so that you can get your hands on him gently without raising a fuss. Once in hand remove him slowly from the cock stall, pet him for a few seconds, then put him on the work bench where the "goodies" are, and walk him around for a while as you did the first time.
Don't attempt to "work" him those first few trips. Rather, concentrate on having him aquainted with the place and liking it there. Another dandy tidbit to put on the work bench for taming a cock are little pieces of unsalted butter about the size of a pea. They love it; dance and jumparound calling the hens annd forgewt all about you and being afraid. While he is in that mood, take your hands off him and back away a step or two so that he owns the work bench himself. It's his now. Then slowly approach him with your hands down rather than extended as if to catch him and when you get alongside him, slowly and gently put your hands back on him, move him around a little, pick him up, pet him a few times, and carefully return to his stall.
All this seems like an awful lot of detail and actually takes longer to read than to do it, but if done right the first few times it pays big dividends, and saves a tremendous amount of time for all the remainder of the keep, to say nothing of avoiding countless scratches and bruises to yourself. In a couple of days you should be able to open the cock stall door and have the cock come out to you by himself, fly to the work bench, crow and strut around without your laying a hand on him. That's when you'll be glad you spent all that care with him at the beginning. Now you can work him with pleasure instead of engaging in a "free for all" twice a day. That same relationship carries over when you move him from pen to pen. He will be right at the door waiting for you to pick him up and carry him to new quarters. He always enjoys changes.
After a few days of this and the cock is thoroughly at home in the cock house and thinks the place is his, it's time to introduce him to noise and confusion. The best thing I know for this is a portable radio. Turn it to some station which carries on a continuous program of news, music and weather, turn it up full blast and let him listen to Rock 'n Roll, tom toms and all the rest of the noises including human shouting until he becomes as sick and accustomed to it as you are. Sports events are especially good with all the shouting.
Also make plenty of noise while you are in the cockhouse. Drop pans or buckets on the floor. Get him use to them and teach him they will not harm him. Let people come to the cock house and blab away while you're working the birds. Let him get use to them. He will encounter plenty of noise and confusion at the pit, so let him get use to them ahead of time. If a cock will be fought under electric lights, by all means work him on the training table under electric lights so that he will become accustomed to them. Likewise, if he is to fight at night, spar him at night and have the pit floor as nearly as possible like the pit floor where he will fight. Bring the radio to the sparring pit and have it blaring away as loud as you can while the sparring is going on.
I have a couple of little 3x2x2 portable, collapsible scratch pens which I take with me on multi-day meets. These are setup with some shucks or straw for litter in or about the cock house. After the cock has been worked I placed him in there for three minutes while I work the next cock. Throw a few grains of feed in there and he makes the straw fly. Placing him in there and taking him out also adds to the taming. Do it slowly, and gently so as to build up confidence between you and him. Many times I've carried the birds on a long night haul, and when they arrived at their destination were a bit squeamish with the new quarters. But, five minutes in the familiar scratch coops and everything was alright again. They owned the place. That's the attitude you want to develope. All these little things help to obtain it.

When heeling the cocks I greatly prefer to do the holding and to let someone else tie on the heels. I can tell the fellow how I want the heels put on and watch him while he does it,but I can't tell the cock that the fellow who is holding him in the most uncomfortable position possible, which is what most of them do, is a friend of mine and relax. The cock does not understand this. So I'll do the holding myself. The cock is used to me and my hands, so he is relaxed and comfortable and everything is fine. It's the same way with handling. By no stretch of the imagination am I an expert handler, but the cock knows me and is used to my way of handling him.
Accordingly, he is more relaxed with me amid all the noise and confusion than he would be in the hands of a stranger. If you or the man who put up the birds are not going to handle, at least have whoever has done the conditioning bring him into the pit, weigh him, walk him around while he becomes accustomed to the surroundings and then pass him to the handler just before the start of the battle.
So that is about all I can think to tell about taming a cock. Remember always that a cock cannot produce more than a fraction of his potential ability in the pit if he is distracted by the strange sights, sounds, and surroundings. It is your duty as a conditioner to aquaint him with those conditions ahead of time.
Don't condemn him as a dunce because he just stands there and gets killed in his bewilderment. Call yourself a dunce for not aquainting with such conditions in advance. That's what I've called myself, and worse names, many times.

Working or Exercising

I was brought up on the "100 runs 100 flies" practice of working a cock in order to strengthen his muscles, improve his wind, enable him to fight longer, and make him harder to kill. Such exercises may improve all of those desirable traits to a limited extent, but of one thing I am certain; they surely take the cut out of him! And I would rather have cutting ability than all those others combined. I don't care how tough and strong a cock is, he can't take many shots to the lungs or underneath the wings, and keep going. And that's were a real cutting cock is going to pop him.
Accordingly, long ago I abandoned the old heavy bench work practices, and concentrated on keeping a cock fresh, loose, alert , and confident wherever he is, especially in the pit which I want him to consider his own domain. That is the principal or basis of this keep. So have it constantly in mind. It all is designed to promote cutting and confidence.
It is my conviction that 90% of a cock's strength, power and endurance comes from his inheritance in the brood yard and from his 365 day feed and care. That leaves only 10% possible improvement for the conditioner to work on with his special feed, exercise and stimulants to bring a cock up to 100% potential. And while the upward limit is 10%, the downward limit is much greater, and I feel certain that many conditioning methods are more likely to decrease a healthy cock's chances than they are to improve them. Likewise it is my belief that a cock hits as much with his heart as he does with his feet and legs. Accordingly, everything you can do to encourage him to put all of his heart into his punches is of more importance than any small increase in physical strength which you can give him. As regards the latter, my experience has been that the exercise program forth here develops just as much strength and endurance as any other, and promotes infinitely more cut and desire. With this statement of objectives set forth, let's get going to the practices.
You will need certain facilities and equipment. Hopefully you already have most of them and can build the others at small expense
1) A cock house. I like to use peat moss in the stalls. It's sort of dusty, but the cocks wont eat it, it's soft on their feet and bodies, they soon find that there's nothing to eat in there, and consequently remain quiet and are not scratching around all day, and it's very absorbant of moisture. This latter is important, especially where you are shifting cocks from the outside to the inside frequently. Nothing is so dangerous for developing rattles as moisture in the cock house, and peat moss helps to protect against the hazard.
2) Fly pens. As many as the number of cocks you plan to put up at one time. "Here is where 90% of your work is done. Just don't overdo it like so many cockers do. Two days at a time for a total of 12 days over a period of three weeks should be enough. Little or non the last week." They should be about ten feet high, four feet wide, and fifteen feet deep. I like to have six inches or more of washed gravel for the floor or bottom. Dirt is too dusty and I don't like boards or concrete. The fly pens should be covered, if outside, with only the front open. For litter use corn shucks if you can get them. If not, use clean bright straw or hay. If you use straw or hay, put in fresh litter every keep or so. Cocks like to scratch in clean bright stuff. Don't put the litter in too deep. You don't want to stiffen the fowl by too strenuous scratching. There probably is more or less feed in straw or hay.
Watch out for this or the cocks might get a lot more feed when they first go in there than you want them to have. Sometimes I put a couple of hens in each pen for a day or so ahead of time to clean out the grain in the litter. If you can get alfalfa hay, that's fine. Throw in a small chunk of it from time to time. Not every day. The cocks will tear it up in great shape and probably eat some of it which is good for them. For roosts I like swinging perches alternating front and back. The cocks can see each other that way and do alot more flying up and down, which is what you want them to do. Keep the front covered high enough up so that the cocks can't see outside when on the floor. Have a few hens running loose outside. The cocks want to "watch the girls go by," but don't let them "stand on the corner" to do it. Make them fly up to their perches to enjoy the sights.
3) Regular outside coops 4x4x7 or some such dimension.
Smaller is just as good. No doubt you already have them. Put a few inches of washed gravel in there. No litter. You don't want the cocks to be scratching while in them. We will call these sand coops for identification.
4) The same type coops set outside on the grass, when there is grass. We will call them grass coops. I prefer to use coops on grass instead of tie cords.
5) Two or three small 2x2x3 coops set inside or near the cock house with a small quantity ofshucks or other litter in them.
These are cooling off pens. Place a cock in there for two or three minutes after you have worked him so he can scratch around while you are working the next bird. Then, return to his cock house stall for feeding.

Now that you have the equipment all set, let's get on with it's use. The fly pens provide most of the cock's work. It is natural voluntary exercise which will not stiffen the muscles if not overdone. Start in four weeks prior to fight date. Do not feed the cock in the evening prior to placing him in the fly pen.
Instead, give him a worm pill while he is empty, and a good delousing. Then, place him in the fly pen for the night. It is a good thing to remove him from his regular coop at night in order not to excite him by catching him in the daytime. The following dy don't feed him anything either morning or night. Instead, mix up a drink of black- strap molasses and water, about a half-cup full to a gallon. This black-strap molasses water acts as a tonic and a laxative. I prefer it to bread and sweet milk for such purposes, but if you can't get black-strap molasses, give the cock a good big feed of bread and sweet
milk that first morning he is in the fly pen but nothing at night. By the next morning he should be plenty empty and hungry. Start in then with your regular feeding program as described in the first section. Don,t doctor up your feed at all with any raw eggs or fancy stuff. Just dry grain scattered in the litter. Clean water before him all the time. Also grit and oyster shell.
The secret to using fly pens successfully is to keep the cock active, scratching and flying while he is in there. In order to accomplish this is don't leave him there for too long a stretch at a time. Break it up by removing him to the grass pen or the sand pen about every third day. Likewise, don't overfeed. Hence the feed measuring cup so you will know how much feed he is getting. Keep him hungry and scratching. I like to have the cock in the fly pen about two-thirds of the time for the first two weeks, and on grass (if there is any) the other third. If no grass, then in the sand pens. But don't be a slave to any rigid schedule. If a nice warm day comes along after a cold stretch of weather put him outside even if he was just outside the previous day. The sun will do more for him than the scratching. On the other hand, if on the day he is scheduled to go outside it is raining or snowing or blowing hard, don't put him out were he will be uncomfortable and miserable. Leave him were he is or take him into the cock house and let him rest. Anything for a change. I don't like to leave a cock in the fly pens for more than three days at a stretch. It works him too hard and makes him logey. If there is not grass give him some chopped apple, onion and lettuce in a cup every day or so. Even daily if you wish. Feed it at noon if it's convenient. If not, just before feeding is perfectly o.k. The whole point is that you want to keep him fresh, alert, loose, and happy at all times. That comes first. The schedule is secondary. Change it as neccessary to accomplish the main objective. Weigh the bird each time you take him out of the fly pen, note his state of flesh, make record of it on a chart, and feed accordingly. During these first two weeks it would be fine to give him the white of a hard boiled egg occasionally, about one to every three cocks. It wont put on any weight and he loves it. Anything to keep him happy. Also, don't forget to begin the taming routine by giving him little pieces of bread once or twice a day. By the end of two weeks he should be quite tame and friendly, which is important. That pretty well takes care of the first two weeks or so. "Be sure to change location of cocks every couple of days all during the pre-condition and the keep."
About two weeks prior to fight time bring the cock into the cock house, exercising all the care and gentleness described previously. It doesn't have to be exactly fourteen days. If there has been a long spell of foul weather and the 14th day is bright and fine, leave him out in the grass or sand pen for another day or two. There's no hard and fast schedule to be followed in the cock house. One thing to be avoided is to bring him in when he is wet. Don't do that ever. If he should get wet when outside at any time, put him in the fly pen to dry out over night and feed him in a cup out there. A wet cock in a condition coop stall is a dandy way to bring on rattles.
Up until 72 hours before fight time I like to feed in the cock house both morning and night, have him roost there, but spend the day outside whenever possible. Most of such outside time will be spent in the sand coops. I don't mind his being on grass if he's used to it. Alternate between the two during all that time. If the weather is bad you might give him a day in the fly pen but no more than one day at a time and only then to break up the monotony of the other quarters. I prefer not to use the fly pens at all the last two weeks, and never the last week. Feed in cups to discourage scratching.
The bench or hand work in the cock house is light, simple and easy.
Principally it consists of taming and making friends with him. You are not going to make his muscles any stronger or tougher than they are already by your hand work in the last two weeks. Instead of working him to death in there, concentrate on toning him up, building his ego and confidence in himself and in you, getting him aquainted with you and his surroundings and the many distractors he wqill encounter at the pit. Tone up his muscles through proper food and rest. Probably rest, enforced rest, will do more toward accomplishing that than anything else. Stimulate his desire through certain things you add to his food. Keep him fresh,loose, alert, confident, and happy.
When you first put him on the bench, take it slow and easy. Make the work bench a pleasant place for him to be. A play pen rather than a torture chamber. Walk him around and back and forth very slowly at first.
As he becomes accustomed to the exercise gradually speed it up and increase the number of runs. He should be on his toes, tripping along like a ballet dancer. If he enjoys this and keeps talking to you all the time, you can run him at the peak of his work up to 40 or 50 times, counting over as one and back as two,etc. But don't continue it beyond the point where he is enjoying and enthusiastic about the work.
If he does not like to be run, as some cocks don't, and braces himself against you stiff legged, don't run him at all. All you will accomplish is to stiffen his leg muscles and that's bad. Do something else with him in the exercise line which he enjoys.
Maybe he enjoys being flown or flirted. All right, do that. But for no longer liking it or enthusiastic about the game. Non of this " work till he begins to breathe hard and his mouth is open." I don't go for that at all. If he does not like being flown and tries to pop you the second he lands, don't do that either. Most cocks like to be flown toward the work bench. Step back a few feet and toss him toward it. When he lands he should flap his wings, dance around and crow. Gradually increase the distance of the flight. This is fun for him and very stimulating, so don't overdo it. Four or five times at the most. If he has already taken a goodly number of runs and flies, a couple is enough. I usually end up this session on the bench with this exercise, then weigh him and put him in a little scratch coop while I work the next bird. After you have worked or played with the birds for a week and you are well aquainted with each other, you might try placing him on his back on the work bench were he will have to struggle to regain his feet. You hope he will never get knocked into that position but he might, so he may as well get some experience in regaining his feet. No cock enjoys this exercise, so don't do it over a couple a times at a session.
Some people like to "tail" a cock on the work bench. It is a spectacular procedure, but I never saw the cock yet which did not hate it, which is reason enough for me not to do it. Besides it is inclined to stiffen a cock's leg muscles, which is equally bad.
Many people like to hold a cock by the thighs and make him flutter, or balance him on their arm and make him do the same. The fowl hate this too, and likewise, it is inclined to stiffen the leg muscles. So I don't do it.
Their leg muscles have already had enough exercise by the natural scratching in the fly pens and flying up onto the swinging perches. I,m More interested in having the cock feel friendly and have confidence in me, and I don't want to exercise him in any way which will decrease his cutting ability. Another thing to avoid is having a wild or noisy bird in the cock house. One such agitator in there is apt to make all the other birds wild and agitated, which is the last thing in the world you want to occur.So throw him out. If you are compelled to fight him, do so right out of the sand pen. You'll not be able to do him any good in the cock house, and he will frustrate the other birds.

The last three days or 72 hours before fight time, complete rest. This is the time you want him to build up his energy for the big effort. Nothing will accomplish this so well as rest. Complete enforced rest. Keep his exercise and scratching down to a minimum, just enough to maintain his appetite and to keep him from becoming bored and sluggish. A famous doctor once said that people would be far healthier if they spent one full day a every week in bed. Rest. Complete bed rest. Probably he was right. But who would do all the chores and pay the bills? Besides, look at all the fun you would be missing. So his good idea never gained acceptance. But fighting cocks are not under such compulsions. Observe what wild geese do on their long thousand mile migratory flights. Do they go flying exercising their muscles in preparation for such flights? No, they rest. Rest for days storing up energy for the big effort. And they do the same between the thousand mile hops. Rest and eat. That's all. I guess that's enough to give you the idea. During these 72 hours, feed less rather than more. The cock does not require so much food while he is resting, and you don't want to get him sluggish from overeating. Keep him a little bit on the hungry side during this time, and at the hour of battle he should be real hungry. It wont weaken him, and he will be sharp and eager. Just don't overdo it.
A few tips as to what to do and what to avoid may be helpful:
On a long haul, travel by night. The cocks rest better and it is cooler.
Tough on you but good for the cocks. A little discomfort or inconvenience to you is worth it, especially since you've spent weeks, months and years preparing for this event.
Be careful of odors. Any kind of odors. A cock's respiratory organs are extremely sensitive. If you want to paint or creosote your cock stalls or carrying cases, do it months in advance so that all the smells have disappeared. Be especially careful to avoid exhaust fumes from your automobile. These can ruin everything in just a few minutes. Avoid airconditioning units. These things affect adversely even human beings, and fowl are far more sensitive than people. Watch out for heat at any time, especially in the 72 hours. Heat weakens a cock tremendously. He can't sweat and throw it off like you can. Do everything you can to avoid getting a cock hot, particularly the 24 hours before battle.

On fight day feed only one-third white of hard-boiled egg and a few sips of water. If birds are to be fought in the afternoon, don't feed even the hard egg. You want them empty and hungry when they enter the pit. For exercise, just two or three short flies toward the work bench to keep their muscles loose. The lack of feed will not weaken them. Weigh in at the very last minute. Your birds may drop an ounce or two during the last few hours which will enable you to meet a smaller bird on the match list. Do all your trming out a few days prior to fight date. A couple a pecks at a cut orange or a sip of water after heeling is o.k, but many times I don't even do that.

To repeat: remember always that the foundation of this keep freshness, loose, relaxed muscles, alertness, eagerness, and confidence. Also remember that there is no substitute for your own thinking. No keep schedule can anticipate all the situations you will encounter. If you get into a jam, you might consult some other exoerienced cocker. He possibly could help you, but probably not, for he can not know all you have done or failed to do. In all likelihood you,ll have to figure it out for yourself. If the situation is real severe, which calls for drastic action, don't do it. Forget it, cuss me, and try again. At least you'll save your money.
I believe strngly that it is better to fight a cock when he is "ready" than when he is "conditioned". If a cock is in robust health, full of fire, and rarin' to go, that is the time to use him, even if he is a little heavy and has not been handled much. All any keep can do for a bird is put him is put him in the condition he is in right now. If you mess around with him for two or three weeks he very likely will lose that edge and not be as good as he is today.
After all it is the cock himself who must do the fighting. All any keep can do is to enable him to put forth the best effort of which he is capable.
I'll not tell you how good this keep is. That is for you to judge based upon your own experience with it. I've used it for years with conspicuous success in top company, and consistently set down outstanding cutting fowl. The system is as nearly foolproof as any I know.
So keep your old think tank working all the time you are following this keep, and I hope you knock'em all down!

Sincerely,
Narragansett


In the first printing of this booklet I goofed through not saying anything about sparring. It is an important part of the conditioning process, and most cockers do not make the most of it. I like to have fowl reasonably tame and accustomed to being handled and aquainted with their surroundings before sparring at all. It is unfair and likely to produce faulty judgement to spar a bird when it is wild, nervous and distracted by all the new surroundings. When you have the birds reasonably gentled down and aquainted with you, proceed as follows:

1st sparring. Bill the birds until they are thoroughly mad at each other, and drop them down real close together. Practically on top of one another. They will go together like a shot. Snatch up as quickly as you can,point at each other and drop down again, just as close as the first time. Snatch up immediately. Do this four times. The entire session will not take over half a minute. This teaches them to swing into action the second their feet touch the pit floor. Pet and rub them gently and return to their quarters.

2nd sparring. Start out the same way. Only between rounds take a step backward. This requires them to run a few steps before breaking. But keep the rounds a continuous process. No wait or hesitation between rounds.

3rd sparring. The same as number two, only increase the distance between the birds when setting down. They should cover the distance between them like a flash before breaking into the air. If they don't, shorten the distance and try again. No hesitation between pittings. On the third round of this session let them go at each other for a while. This is when you can judge their fighting style: whether they are low-headed, duckers, hit deliberately or merely fan the air, look where they hit, wheel, all that sort of thing. This is when you select your show. Give them a rest, then set down fairly close to each other, snatch up as soon as they come together and return to fly pens or scratch pens. Throw out the ones that do not make the team. This session should be held about a week before fight day.

4th sparring. About 48 hours before fight day. This is just a tune-up session to keep them on edge. Set down fairly close to each other and snatch up immediately. Only two rounds. You don't want them to get stiff or sore.

migakie
October 1st, 2008, 05:32 AM
kamusta sa tanan nga ICCC...pasaka kolang...

JericP
October 1st, 2008, 05:32 AM
mgo dante maayong adlaw lang da sa imo may pm ako da sa imo , waay ko gali ma hambal sa imo ang presyo kang mga stag ko.............

JericP
October 1st, 2008, 05:33 AM
kamusta sa tanan nga ICCC...pasaka kolang...

toto maayong adlaw lang dasa imo kamusta kana da

migakie
October 1st, 2008, 05:37 AM
toto maayong adlaw lang dasa imo kamusta kana da

ayos lang di to jeric....medyo tognaw naman..musta man da? good luck sa mga derby mo...

SJCocker
October 1st, 2008, 05:52 AM
ayos lang di to jeric....medyo tognaw naman..musta man da? good luck sa mga derby mo...
Mangamusta lang kita sa tanan...... Mike daw mayo showing nyo subong sa peyak ah... Goodluck sa semis//:)

JericP
October 1st, 2008, 05:55 AM
ayos lang di to jeric....medyo tognaw naman..musta man da? good luck sa mga derby mo...
toto mike basi basi didir na ako swertihon sa bakbakan . goodluck man sa imo

JericP
October 1st, 2008, 05:57 AM
Mangamusta lang kita sa tanan...... Mike daw mayo showing nyo subong sa peyak ah... Goodluck sa semis//:)

toto bal maayong adlaw lang da sa imo wala kamo mag chicks ni toto ronel heheheh:cool: :eek:

Gilavar888
October 1st, 2008, 05:59 AM
Mangamusta lang kita sa tanan...... Mike daw mayo showing nyo subong sa peyak ah... Goodluck sa semis//:)

Toto JericP mayad lang nga lawas sa imo.

Doc Bal mayad lang nga aga kanimo.

migakie
October 1st, 2008, 06:00 AM
Mangamusta lang kita sa tanan...... Mike daw mayo showing nyo subong sa peyak ah... Goodluck sa semis//:)

salamat to bal....gin kaloy-an man ah...good luck man a mga derby mo...
regardslang ko kay maninoy Boy Go..basi makita mo sya...

migakie
October 1st, 2008, 06:01 AM
toto mike basi basi didir na ako swertihon sa bakbakan . goodluck man sa imo

ty to jeric..good luck sa bakbakan mo...

SJCocker
October 1st, 2008, 06:02 AM
toto bal maayong adlaw lang da sa imo wala kamo mag chicks ni toto ronel heheheh:cool: :eek:
wala na.... ah busy man mego ta kbalu man ta lip ot man lang 3 wks vacation... atu basi nag take off na cya guro ay...:)

SJCocker
October 1st, 2008, 06:03 AM
Toto JericP mayad lang nga lawas sa imo.

Doc Bal mayad lang nga aga kanimo.
mayad man nga aga/ gab i dira sa imu mego gil... kmusta lang dira ah:)

Maning
October 1st, 2008, 06:05 AM
Conditioning the Gamecock for Battle
By Narragansett 1985

1st section
Feeding
The matter of the ingredients contained in the keep feed has long been considered the great secret in preparing cocks for battle. I disagree.
My own experience indicates that the basic feed which a cock recieves in the three or four weeks prior to battle should vary but little from the feed to which he has been accustomed throughout his lifetime. Any wide deoarture from his normal diet cannot materially increase his strength, and in all probability will upset his digestive apparatus to the point where he will have les strength than he possessed prior to the introduction of the new feeds.
Consider this practical example: the Olympic games bring together the finest conditioned atheletes in the world. The Americans have their diet, the Russians have theirs, the Africans have theirs, the Japanese have still another. Yet they all win. However, everyone will agree that if in the last few weeks before the competition any of them had changed his diet to the one used by the champion from another continent, all he would have got out of it would have been a stomach ache and defeat. The same applies to keep feeds for roosters. Stick to the diet to which they are accustomed.
My basic feed consists of:
40% soaked race horse oats. Soaked in wooden barrles or plastic Ash cans out in the sun for three or four days so they begin to sour.
20% whole corn
10% dry race horse oats
7 1/2 % wheat
7 1/2 % Milo
5% sunflower seed
10% laying pellets
I mix up the dry feed and store in a barrel, then mix in the soaked oats just before feeding. This mixture is put together by using a good sized pan for measuring and dumping the grain in a big pail where it is mixed, then dump the pailful into a 55 gallon oil drum where it is mixed some more. The chickens get this feed from 12 weeks on as long as they live. That way they become accustomed to eating whoile corn which is the best way to feed this grain. In cold weather the proportion of whole corn is increased up to 40% of the total and the soaked oats reduced. In the keep feed I cut way down on the soaked oats but don,t eliminate them entirely. It is interesting to observe the reaction of the fowl to this grain mixture. In hot weather the whole corn is the last thing they eat, whereas in cold weather they gobble up every kernel of whole corn before they touch any of the other grains. I am a great respecter of nature, and endeavor to go along with it just as far as I possibly can in everything pertaining to the feeding and care of the fowl. You will notice that this basic feed which I use is heavy in sour and whole oats. This makes for prolonged slow growth and late maturity. Both features are desirable in growing young stock. Flesh and fat can be acquired in a relatively short period of time, but strong bone development and strong ligaments and sinews require time. You cannot hurry them. The longer you can keep young stock growing, the tougher and stronger their bone and sinew structure will be at maturity. It is far better to have stags strong and husky in April than it is to have them fully matured in September.
"Fresh green grass is No.1 feed in the world for chickens, especially from 8 weeks old until cooped, and all during the precondition and the Keep. The soaked sour oats described previously are next best. The more sour the better. Be sure to feed them from 12 weeks old, and forever after."

There are certain things in the conditioning feed line which you can do to advantage:
(1) If your usual feed is of poor quality, mix up the same ingredients from good quality grains.
(2) Blow out the dust and chaf by winnowing it in the open air.
There's nothing beneficial about dirt and husks. But don't put in alot of new grains.
(3) There are certain things which increase the appetite and aid the digestion. Anything which does this in a noraml natural way is good. But don't go to extremes. Strychnine will develop a voracious appetite, but it also stimulates other activities to the point where it does more harm than good. I've tried it but abandoned the practice. Certain so-called conditioning powders are designed to increase the appetite and are okay. For years I"ve used what the boys call my "Black Magic" for such purposes. It's easy to put together and cheap. The recipe appears at the end of this section.
(4) There are certain other additives that help, but use all of them sparingly.
(a) a Little wheat germ oil mixed in the grain stimulates the sex impulses which is good. Use once a day for the last week or ten days
(b) Do the same with cod liver oil at the other daily feeding.
Just a little. When using these ingredients feed in cups, not on the ground where the moist grain picks up dirt and filth.
(c) Raw eggs are good. They're a natural food. Mix up one in your grain to every four or five cocks once a day or even twice a day. The last three days use the white only of a hard boiled egg to every three cocks. Add it to your grain feed.
(d) Some people add a little concentrated Beef Extract as put out by Wilson and Company a few times during the keep. This is okay but I never saw that it did much good.
(e) A noon feed of chopped apple, chopped onion, chopped lettuce is good. Not much. Just a little.
Occasionally add a little chopped up cooked lean beef. Feed all of this in a cup. Not too much. If they don't eat it all in ten minutes, take it away and throw it out.
(f) Many good feeders use buttermilk on all their feeds. You might try it. If they like it, it means their systems require this ingredient, if they don't forget it and give them their regular feed.
(g) A little calf-manna mixed in your grain feed is good. About a teaspoon full to the cock once a day. You can get it at any grain or feed store. I consider it okay. Mix in a little layer pellets if the fowl like them.
(h) The last three days, keep cocks in cock house and feed mostly corn and hard boiled white of eggs. But just add more corn to your regular grain feed, don't feed corn exclusively. And by all means during this time feed less rather than more. Not more than two-thirds of what you have been feeding. You want your cocks hungry when they enter the pit.

There are countless drugs, steroids and other stuff which feeders try to increase the strength or desire or speedor something. I've tried all the ones I ever heard of but abandoned them all. Many people feel they are not really "conditioning" a bird unless they feed something extra. If you are one of them, here are a few thins you can do which probably will do no harm:
Add some bean sprouts chopped up fresh from the chinese restaurant to the noon vegetable feeding. Some cocks will not eat them, but if they do it is good for them.
Add a little brown sugar, or still better, some honey to their feed the last week. Both are strengthening and produce energy.
Some people feel they must add bone meal and fish meal to their feed the first ten days. This is okay, if fresh but if sour or rancid they could throw the cocks off their feed.
Others think the cocks should drink toast water or barley water instead of plain fresh water.

I don't have time to bother with any of these things, but if you wish to do so , go ahead. I doubt if they do much good, but they will do no harm.
Sometimes I add some concentrated gelatin, sugar and milk prepared in a double boiler and then cooled in a pan until it solidifies. Cut up little cubes about 3/4 inches and add to feed. This puts on weight like everything. Adds energy. Use only the last four or five days, especially in cold weather. Some people swear by it. " The formula--2 ounces knox gelatin, four ounces sugar, 2 cups milk."

Of far greater importance than what you feed is how much you feed. As one old master said, "The feed cup is the key to the keep." Cocks must be kept hungry, active, alert, and scratching throughout the keep. At every feed they should be "hitting the bottom of the cup" and making it rattle on their cock stalls. If they don't clean up every grain in five minutes and start looking for more, your feeding too much. If any individual cock leaves anything in his cup by the end of this time, take away his cup and feed less the next meal.
To feed accurately you need a feed cup which has a flat top so that you know exactly how much you are feeding. A whiskey higger is okay or one those little plastic measures which come in coffee cans. The important thing is for you to know exactly how much you are feeding. Every one-fourth ounce makes a difference. Measuring by a spoon or a handful is no good. Not accurate enough. Find out exactly how much your measure holds by weighing its contents of your dry grain mix on the scales and then feed a little or a little less than a cupful. Usually about 1 1/8th or 1 1/4th ounces is a normal feed twice a day. But the important thing is for you to know how much you are feeding and not be guessing at it. After that, note how each individual cock reponds to his feed, as indicated by his appetite and his weight, and measure his feed accordingly. But ever and always have him "hitting the bottom of the cup" and looking for more. It is far better to feed too little than too much. You wont increase his strength by feeding morethan he can digest quickly. You'll only make him sluggish and upset.
Keeping in mind that the purpose of any keep is tohave a cock (1) fresh (2) alert (3) active (4) confident and (5) happy. If anything in this keep or any other one interferes with those objectives, abandon the practices or the feed which you think is causing the trouble and do something else. No set schedule or formula will cover all conditions of weather, state of health and flesh, temperament of cocks, etc. You must appraise all these things as you go along by observing the cocks and noting their responses to what you are feeding or what you are doing to them. I'm a great believer in changing the cock's location frequently during the keep. Coops on green grass one day, fly-pen another, regular small pen with dirt or sand bottom the next, etc. Such changes keep them fresh and eager. Whenever the weather is favorable, I like to keep them outdoors during the daytime.
I'm not afraid of getting them "loose" on fresh grass provided they have been on grass prior to entering the keep. It keeps them fresh. You wouldn't like to be shut up in a close, hot stall and neither do they. It's the same on cold or windy or rainy days. Put them were they'll be most comfortable. Don't be a slave to a schedule. Keep water in front of them all the time until the last 24 or 48 hours before fight time, then give them less depending upon the weather. I do like to keep them quiet and resting the last three days or 72 hours prior to their fight, but use judgement on this too and by all means have them comfortable and happy.
What you feed, how much you feed , when and how you exercise the cocks will vary somewhat with every bunch you put up. Just keep in mind what you are trying to accomplish, as stated previously, by observing the reaction of the fowl to what you are feeding and doing, and dont be a robot to this or any other system.
During the entire keep, notice the droppings every day. They should be firm but soft. Not hard and dried up, but not watery either. If they are either, try to determine the cause and correct it. They are a sure sign of a cock's condition and his ability to assimilate his food. He will not prosper if his droppings are not right. Sometimes it is the feed that is the trouble. Other times it is caused by nervousness or environment.
Whatever the cause, try to eliminate it. No matter what feed or other procedure you are following, your fowl will be going down hill instead of improving if his droppings are off. One good conditioner i knew was called a "bowel man." He placed more stress on a fowl's droppings then upon any other indication of a bird's health. So pay attention to them. They are important. Toward the end of the keep the droppings should firm up somewhat due to the character of the feed and less water. Regulate both to bachieve the result. You will have to work that out for yourself. No formula can anticipate all the conditions which you will encounter during the keep.
The use of scales during the keep is important. Weigh each morning before the cock has been fed and when he has been without water all night. By weighing at that time you get a more accurate and uniform weighing.
Record such weight day by day on a chart right to the quarter ounce so you can determine whether a cock is gaining or losing weight which is a excellent indication of his health, and whether or not he is prospering on the quality and quantity of feed he is recieving. A cock should be at about his proper fighting weight when he enters the keep following a week or two of the preconditioning process. During the two week "keep" period I like to drop him off an ounce or two through the quality and quantity of feed during the early part of the keep, and then bring him up toward the end of the keep so that he weighs as much as when he entered the keepor an ounce or two more. Make such increases and decreases in weight gradually. Don't go to excessesin achieving such results. I he does not change, don't fret about it. Such uniformity in weight indicates that a cock is jus about right in weight, and you should not attempt to change it.
By all means concentrate on having a cock "coming up" in weight, health, spirit, , and freshness as the day of battle approaches. Note especially Spirit and Freshness. If the cock does not have those qualities the minute he enters the pit, and has become stale or "gone by" as some men express it, he is an almost certain loser no matter how much you have done for him during the preceding four weeks. Many good cockers make their selections on the day of the fight based largely on a cock's freshness and eagerness on fight day regardless of how he has shown in his previous sparring sessions.
I am a great believer in freshness and in having lots of moisture in a cocks tissues when fought. One excellent cocker I know who has a splendid record for setting down cutting cocks attributes much of his success to having cocks with a lot of moisture in their muscles. He actually forces in the moisture by feeding aloof oatmeal soaked in buttermilk, and alot od stale bread soaked in water. Personally, I think he overdoes this feature of feeding, but you can't argue with success. My own fowl have a splendid reputation for cutting, and I always have plenty of moisture in their systems. Certain it is that a cock will hit short and not "reach out" with his blows.
The matter of a cock's proper fighting weight is a topic of dispute among even the best conditioners. Some men like for a cock to carry two, four, or even six ounces more flesh than other equally good conditioners. Both win and apparently show equally strong and durable fowl. Some families, and especially round headed fowl, seem to require more meat on them than others. You don't want any gut fat in them . That's sure. But other than that you'll have to come to your own decision as to your fowl's proper fighting weight basd upon your experience and observations. In any event, approach this problem with an open mind and don't be a slave to the scales or preconceived ideas. Base your judgement on what you observe with your own fowl.

Timing
Probably the most inportant feature of the feeding, as well as all other procedures in the conditioning program, is that of timing, or of having the fowl at their peak at the hour of battle. It is no good to have them "ready" or at their peak, two days or even two hours prior to battle. They must "peak" at the hour they enter the pit. Many features contribute to this condition, but from a feeding standpoint the important part is to have them "comin up" just prior to battle, and fresh. To accomplish this you must feed less (mostly cracked corn), excercise less, and rest more-- complete rest the last 72 hours prior to battle. Not over one-half the feed the eveing before fight day unless fought at night and then only one-half white of hard boiled egg. Through this procedure, cocks will come up in weight, even on less feed, and be hungry and " a walkin' and talkin' in your hands" as they enter the pit.
Some conditioners endeavor to control this timing, or peaking, through the use of various drugs. I find that the best overall, and the most consistent, results are obtained by foloowing the procedure outlined here.
Black Magic
4oz. powdered charcoal
2oz. ground mustard
2oz. ground ginger
2 oz. red pepper
2 oz. cinnamon
1/2 oz. carbonate of iron (if obtainable)
Sprinkle liberally on moist feed like salt
"This is an appetite stimulator only. Use all during the keep."

Selection
The matter of selection of the fowl to be shown at a specific time is of the utmost importance to the cocker who wants to win. You have up a show of 12 birds from which you must show eight. Which ones should you use? In this respect, I always think of the advice given me by Elmer Ehrhart of York, Pennsylvania, over thirty years ago. He said : "Take only your Aces to the pit. Leave the Kings and Queens at home." Again: "Play no favorites, select your show from the ones which are "ready" today."On the negative side I often think of the advice given me by my father who said; "Many an attorney accepts a case which at first he thinks has no chance of success. But the more he works on the case he becomes convinced he has a chance, then when the verdict goes against him he is sunk." It is the same way with cocking. We put a second rate bird in the keep, but he improves and we "talk ourselves" into believing that he can win. But he doesn't.
So beware of "talking yourself" into a win. Rather follow the advice of old Elmer: "Take only the Aces to the pit." The Kings and Queens,well, use them for hacking or leave them at home. The chances are that they willmeet someone else's Ace and you will have a zero on the scoreboard.

Section 2
Taming
Taming a cock is a feature in the conditioning process most keeps omit entirely.
Personally, I consider it of the utmost importance. Just as important as the feed and exercise parts.
Probably more important. By means of feed and bench work you can't improve a cock's hpysical strength a great deal, but by proper taming you can improve his readiness for battle 1,000 percent. Look at it this way: You bring a cock which has been accustomed to quiet surroundings and familiar people into a strange place, slap a set of heels on him, then take him to a brilliantly lighted arena with a different sort of pit surface, and a mob of strangers raising a racket like a boiler factory and expect him to ignore all these strange sitghts and sounds and turn in a superb exhibition of fighting. Under similar circumstances great opera singers have been known to become distraught and they could not utter a sound.
Gamecocks react the same way. Especially the high-strung ones which have been all keyed up anyway. I've see high-class cocks so confused by all the noise, lights, and commotion that they would not even leave their scores, and were killed before they lifted a foot. Cocks can become accustomed to airplanes passing overhead or a barking dog racing along the fence, but it takes some time and it's up to you to get them aquainted with such surroundings. Here's how:
Start in early when you first select your show four weeks before fight day, and as you pass his coop, drop in a little piece of white bread about the size of a dime. In a few days he will be looking for the bread and learn that when you stop by his coop that you are not going to harm him but rather that you have something for him which he likes. Pretty soon most of them will take bread from your fingers. Fine. You have made a good start. If he doesn't , don't insist, but drop the bread gently before him and move on. He will tame down in time.
Whyen you have to catch the cock to move him from one pklace to another do so very gently. Take your time. Avoid getting him excited or making him wild. If he goes to ramming or flying around, leave him alone for a while and let him settle down. Then, when you get him in hand, pet him and rub him slowly and gently for a minute or so before placing him in his new quarters. When you do set him down, do it slowly and gently. Don't heave him into his new coop. Let him know that you are not going to hurt him, that he can have cinfidence in you. Offer him a bite of apple while you have him in hand, if he accepts it, so much the better.
Now when you first bring a stag into the conditioning house, that is a particularly critical time. Everything there is new to him. Take it slow and easy. always have some pieces of bread or chopped apple on the work bench for him. Place him gently on the work bench, let him look around and get aquainted with the place for 20- 25 seconds, keeping your hands on him gently all the time. Then, when he gets ready to walk around, as he will in a few seconds, walk around with him very slowly and gently.
He may even eastsome of the "goodies" you have placed there for him. But keep your hands on him gently all the time, and make no quick or fast moves. After a minute or so, lift him gently off the board, rub him for a few seconds, and then carefully ease him into his cock stall, releasing him slowly, and quietly close the door.
I've gone into this with much detail which sounds like kindergarten stuff, yet I know countless men who have been conditioning roosters for 60 years who to this moment have their twice a day "go-around" with the cocks in their care. They never fail to remark when they visit me how tame my birds are and what a tussle they have with theirs. My birds aren't tame. By nature they are not as tame as theirs are since mine are more high strung. It's all a matter of how you handle them, and particular, how you start in.
The first few times you taka a cock out of a conditioning stall is another critical time. Do this very quietly and very gently. By all means avoid getting him "het up" and flouncing around in there. Better to leave him in there than to get him all excited and fighting you. Sometimes you can divert his attention with feed in his cup so that you can get your hands on him gently without raising a fuss. Once in hand remove him slowly from the cock stall, pet him for a few seconds, then put him on the work bench where the "goodies" are, and walk him around for a while as you did the first time.
Don't attempt to "work" him those first few trips. Rather, concentrate on having him aquainted with the place and liking it there. Another dandy tidbit to put on the work bench for taming a cock are little pieces of unsalted butter about the size of a pea. They love it; dance and jumparound calling the hens annd forgewt all about you and being afraid. While he is in that mood, take your hands off him and back away a step or two so that he owns the work bench himself. It's his now. Then slowly approach him with your hands down rather than extended as if to catch him and when you get alongside him, slowly and gently put your hands back on him, move him around a little, pick him up, pet him a few times, and carefully return to his stall.
All this seems like an awful lot of detail and actually takes longer to read than to do it, but if done right the first few times it pays big dividends, and saves a tremendous amount of time for all the remainder of the keep, to say nothing of avoiding countless scratches and bruises to yourself. In a couple of days you should be able to open the cock stall door and have the cock come out to you by himself, fly to the work bench, crow and strut around without your laying a hand on him. That's when you'll be glad you spent all that care with him at the beginning. Now you can work him with pleasure instead of engaging in a "free for all" twice a day. That same relationship carries over when you move him from pen to pen. He will be right at the door waiting for you to pick him up and carry him to new quarters. He always enjoys changes.
After a few days of this and the cock is thoroughly at home in the cock house and thinks the place is his, it's time to introduce him to noise and confusion. The best thing I know for this is a portable radio. Turn it to some station which carries on a continuous program of news, music and weather, turn it up full blast and let him listen to Rock 'n Roll, tom toms and all the rest of the noises including human shouting until he becomes as sick and accustomed to it as you are. Sports events are especially good with all the shouting.
Also make plenty of noise while you are in the cockhouse. Drop pans or buckets on the floor. Get him use to them and teach him they will not harm him. Let people come to the cock house and blab away while you're working the birds. Let him get use to them. He will encounter plenty of noise and confusion at the pit, so let him get use to them ahead of time. If a cock will be fought under electric lights, by all means work him on the training table under electric lights so that he will become accustomed to them. Likewise, if he is to fight at night, spar him at night and have the pit floor as nearly as possible like the pit floor where he will fight. Bring the radio to the sparring pit and have it blaring away as loud as you can while the sparring is going on.
I have a couple of little 3x2x2 portable, collapsible scratch pens which I take with me on multi-day meets. These are setup with some shucks or straw for litter in or about the cock house. After the cock has been worked I placed him in there for three minutes while I work the next cock. Throw a few grains of feed in there and he makes the straw fly. Placing him in there and taking him out also adds to the taming. Do it slowly, and gently so as to build up confidence between you and him. Many times I've carried the birds on a long night haul, and when they arrived at their destination were a bit squeamish with the new quarters. But, five minutes in the familiar scratch coops and everything was alright again. They owned the place. That's the attitude you want to develope. All these little things help to obtain it.

When heeling the cocks I greatly prefer to do the holding and to let someone else tie on the heels. I can tell the fellow how I want the heels put on and watch him while he does it,but I can't tell the cock that the fellow who is holding him in the most uncomfortable position possible, which is what most of them do, is a friend of mine and relax. The cock does not understand this. So I'll do the holding myself. The cock is used to me and my hands, so he is relaxed and comfortable and everything is fine. It's the same way with handling. By no stretch of the imagination am I an expert handler, but the cock knows me and is used to my way of handling him.
Accordingly, he is more relaxed with me amid all the noise and confusion than he would be in the hands of a stranger. If you or the man who put up the birds are not going to handle, at least have whoever has done the conditioning bring him into the pit, weigh him, walk him around while he becomes accustomed to the surroundings and then pass him to the handler just before the start of the battle.
So that is about all I can think to tell about taming a cock. Remember always that a cock cannot produce more than a fraction of his potential ability in the pit if he is distracted by the strange sights, sounds, and surroundings. It is your duty as a conditioner to aquaint him with those conditions ahead of time.
Don't condemn him as a dunce because he just stands there and gets killed in his bewilderment. Call yourself a dunce for not aquainting with such conditions in advance. That's what I've called myself, and worse names, many times.

Working or Exercising

I was brought up on the "100 runs 100 flies" practice of working a cock in order to strengthen his muscles, improve his wind, enable him to fight longer, and make him harder to kill. Such exercises may improve all of those desirable traits to a limited extent, but of one thing I am certain; they surely take the cut out of him! And I would rather have cutting ability than all those others combined. I don't care how tough and strong a cock is, he can't take many shots to the lungs or underneath the wings, and keep going. And that's were a real cutting cock is going to pop him.
Accordingly, long ago I abandoned the old heavy bench work practices, and concentrated on keeping a cock fresh, loose, alert , and confident wherever he is, especially in the pit which I want him to consider his own domain. That is the principal or basis of this keep. So have it constantly in mind. It all is designed to promote cutting and confidence.
It is my conviction that 90% of a cock's strength, power and endurance comes from his inheritance in the brood yard and from his 365 day feed and care. That leaves only 10% possible improvement for the conditioner to work on with his special feed, exercise and stimulants to bring a cock up to 100% potential. And while the upward limit is 10%, the downward limit is much greater, and I feel certain that many conditioning methods are more likely to decrease a healthy cock's chances than they are to improve them. Likewise it is my belief that a cock hits as much with his heart as he does with his feet and legs. Accordingly, everything you can do to encourage him to put all of his heart into his punches is of more importance than any small increase in physical strength which you can give him. As regards the latter, my experience has been that the exercise program forth here develops just as much strength and endurance as any other, and promotes infinitely more cut and desire. With this statement of objectives set forth, let's get going to the practices.
You will need certain facilities and equipment. Hopefully you already have most of them and can build the others at small expense
1) A cock house. I like to use peat moss in the stalls. It's sort of dusty, but the cocks wont eat it, it's soft on their feet and bodies, they soon find that there's nothing to eat in there, and consequently remain quiet and are not scratching around all day, and it's very absorbant of moisture. This latter is important, especially where you are shifting cocks from the outside to the inside frequently. Nothing is so dangerous for developing rattles as moisture in the cock house, and peat moss helps to protect against the hazard.
2) Fly pens. As many as the number of cocks you plan to put up at one time. "Here is where 90% of your work is done. Just don't overdo it like so many cockers do. Two days at a time for a total of 12 days over a period of three weeks should be enough. Little or non the last week." They should be about ten feet high, four feet wide, and fifteen feet deep. I like to have six inches or more of washed gravel for the floor or bottom. Dirt is too dusty and I don't like boards or concrete. The fly pens should be covered, if outside, with only the front open. For litter use corn shucks if you can get them. If not, use clean bright straw or hay. If you use straw or hay, put in fresh litter every keep or so. Cocks like to scratch in clean bright stuff. Don't put the litter in too deep. You don't want to stiffen the fowl by too strenuous scratching. There probably is more or less feed in straw or hay.
Watch out for this or the cocks might get a lot more feed when they first go in there than you want them to have. Sometimes I put a couple of hens in each pen for a day or so ahead of time to clean out the grain in the litter. If you can get alfalfa hay, that's fine. Throw in a small chunk of it from time to time. Not every day. The cocks will tear it up in great shape and probably eat some of it which is good for them. For roosts I like swinging perches alternating front and back. The cocks can see each other that way and do alot more flying up and down, which is what you want them to do. Keep the front covered high enough up so that the cocks can't see outside when on the floor. Have a few hens running loose outside. The cocks want to "watch the girls go by," but don't let them "stand on the corner" to do it. Make them fly up to their perches to enjoy the sights.
3) Regular outside coops 4x4x7 or some such dimension.
Smaller is just as good. No doubt you already have them. Put a few inches of washed gravel in there. No litter. You don't want the cocks to be scratching while in them. We will call these sand coops for identification.
4) The same type coops set outside on the grass, when there is grass. We will call them grass coops. I prefer to use coops on grass instead of tie cords.
5) Two or three small 2x2x3 coops set inside or near the cock house with a small quantity ofshucks or other litter in them.
These are cooling off pens. Place a cock in there for two or three minutes after you have worked him so he can scratch around while you are working the next bird. Then, return to his cock house stall for feeding.

Now that you have the equipment all set, let's get on with it's use. The fly pens provide most of the cock's work. It is natural voluntary exercise which will not stiffen the muscles if not overdone. Start in four weeks prior to fight date. Do not feed the cock in the evening prior to placing him in the fly pen.
Instead, give him a worm pill while he is empty, and a good delousing. Then, place him in the fly pen for the night. It is a good thing to remove him from his regular coop at night in order not to excite him by catching him in the daytime. The following dy don't feed him anything either morning or night. Instead, mix up a drink of black- strap molasses and water, about a half-cup full to a gallon. This black-strap molasses water acts as a tonic and a laxative. I prefer it to bread and sweet milk for such purposes, but if you can't get black-strap molasses, give the cock a good big feed of bread and sweet
milk that first morning he is in the fly pen but nothing at night. By the next morning he should be plenty empty and hungry. Start in then with your regular feeding program as described in the first section. Don,t doctor up your feed at all with any raw eggs or fancy stuff. Just dry grain scattered in the litter. Clean water before him all the time. Also grit and oyster shell.
The secret to using fly pens successfully is to keep the cock active, scratching and flying while he is in there. In order to accomplish this is don't leave him there for too long a stretch at a time. Break it up by removing him to the grass pen or the sand pen about every third day. Likewise, don't overfeed. Hence the feed measuring cup so you will know how much feed he is getting. Keep him hungry and scratching. I like to have the cock in the fly pen about two-thirds of the time for the first two weeks, and on grass (if there is any) the other third. If no grass, then in the sand pens. But don't be a slave to any rigid schedule. If a nice warm day comes along after a cold stretch of weather put him outside even if he was just outside the previous day. The sun will do more for him than the scratching. On the other hand, if on the day he is scheduled to go outside it is raining or snowing or blowing hard, don't put him out were he will be uncomfortable and miserable. Leave him were he is or take him into the cock house and let him rest. Anything for a change. I don't like to leave a cock in the fly pens for more than three days at a stretch. It works him too hard and makes him logey. If there is not grass give him some chopped apple, onion and lettuce in a cup every day or so. Even daily if you wish. Feed it at noon if it's convenient. If not, just before feeding is perfectly o.k. The whole point is that you want to keep him fresh, alert, loose, and happy at all times. That comes first. The schedule is secondary. Change it as neccessary to accomplish the main objective. Weigh the bird each time you take him out of the fly pen, note his state of flesh, make record of it on a chart, and feed accordingly. During these first two weeks it would be fine to give him the white of a hard boiled egg occasionally, about one to every three cocks. It wont put on any weight and he loves it. Anything to keep him happy. Also, don't forget to begin the taming routine by giving him little pieces of bread once or twice a day. By the end of two weeks he should be quite tame and friendly, which is important. That pretty well takes care of the first two weeks or so. "Be sure to change location of cocks every couple of days all during the pre-condition and the keep."
About two weeks prior to fight time bring the cock into the cock house, exercising all the care and gentleness described previously. It doesn't have to be exactly fourteen days. If there has been a long spell of foul weather and the 14th day is bright and fine, leave him out in the grass or sand pen for another day or two. There's no hard and fast schedule to be followed in the cock house. One thing to be avoided is to bring him in when he is wet. Don't do that ever. If he should get wet when outside at any time, put him in the fly pen to dry out over night and feed him in a cup out there. A wet cock in a condition coop stall is a dandy way to bring on rattles.
Up until 72 hours before fight time I like to feed in the cock house both morning and night, have him roost there, but spend the day outside whenever possible. Most of such outside time will be spent in the sand coops. I don't mind his being on grass if he's used to it. Alternate between the two during all that time. If the weather is bad you might give him a day in the fly pen but no more than one day at a time and only then to break up the monotony of the other quarters. I prefer not to use the fly pens at all the last two weeks, and never the last week. Feed in cups to discourage scratching.
The bench or hand work in the cock house is light, simple and easy.
Principally it consists of taming and making friends with him. You are not going to make his muscles any stronger or tougher than they are already by your hand work in the last two weeks. Instead of working him to death in there, concentrate on toning him up, building his ego and confidence in himself and in you, getting him aquainted with you and his surroundings and the many distractors he wqill encounter at the pit. Tone up his muscles through proper food and rest. Probably rest, enforced rest, will do more toward accomplishing that than anything else. Stimulate his desire through certain things you add to his food. Keep him fresh,loose, alert, confident, and happy.
When you first put him on the bench, take it slow and easy. Make the work bench a pleasant place for him to be. A play pen rather than a torture chamber. Walk him around and back and forth very slowly at first.
As he becomes accustomed to the exercise gradually speed it up and increase the number of runs. He should be on his toes, tripping along like a ballet dancer. If he enjoys this and keeps talking to you all the time, you can run him at the peak of his work up to 40 or 50 times, counting over as one and back as two,etc. But don't continue it beyond the point where he is enjoying and enthusiastic about the work.
If he does not like to be run, as some cocks don't, and braces himself against you stiff legged, don't run him at all. All you will accomplish is to stiffen his leg muscles and that's bad. Do something else with him in the exercise line which he enjoys.
Maybe he enjoys being flown or flirted. All right, do that. But for no longer liking it or enthusiastic about the game. Non of this " work till he begins to breathe hard and his mouth is open." I don't go for that at all. If he does not like being flown and tries to pop you the second he lands, don't do that either. Most cocks like to be flown toward the work bench. Step back a few feet and toss him toward it. When he lands he should flap his wings, dance around and crow. Gradually increase the distance of the flight. This is fun for him and very stimulating, so don't overdo it. Four or five times at the most. If he has already taken a goodly number of runs and flies, a couple is enough. I usually end up this session on the bench with this exercise, then weigh him and put him in a little scratch coop while I work the next bird. After you have worked or played with the birds for a week and you are well aquainted with each other, you might try placing him on his back on the work bench were he will have to struggle to regain his feet. You hope he will never get knocked into that position but he might, so he may as well get some experience in regaining his feet. No cock enjoys this exercise, so don't do it over a couple a times at a session.
Some people like to "tail" a cock on the work bench. It is a spectacular procedure, but I never saw the cock yet which did not hate it, which is reason enough for me not to do it. Besides it is inclined to stiffen a cock's leg muscles, which is equally bad.
Many people like to hold a cock by the thighs and make him flutter, or balance him on their arm and make him do the same. The fowl hate this too, and likewise, it is inclined to stiffen the leg muscles. So I don't do it.
Their leg muscles have already had enough exercise by the natural scratching in the fly pens and flying up onto the swinging perches. I,m More interested in having the cock feel friendly and have confidence in me, and I don't want to exercise him in any way which will decrease his cutting ability. Another thing to avoid is having a wild or noisy bird in the cock house. One such agitator in there is apt to make all the other birds wild and agitated, which is the last thing in the world you want to occur.So throw him out. If you are compelled to fight him, do so right out of the sand pen. You'll not be able to do him any good in the cock house, and he will frustrate the other birds.

The last three days or 72 hours before fight time, complete rest. This is the time you want him to build up his energy for the big effort. Nothing will accomplish this so well as rest. Complete enforced rest. Keep his exercise and scratching down to a minimum, just enough to maintain his appetite and to keep him from becoming bored and sluggish. A famous doctor once said that people would be far healthier if they spent one full day a every week in bed. Rest. Complete bed rest. Probably he was right. But who would do all the chores and pay the bills? Besides, look at all the fun you would be missing. So his good idea never gained acceptance. But fighting cocks are not under such compulsions. Observe what wild geese do on their long thousand mile migratory flights. Do they go flying exercising their muscles in preparation for such flights? No, they rest. Rest for days storing up energy for the big effort. And they do the same between the thousand mile hops. Rest and eat. That's all. I guess that's enough to give you the idea. During these 72 hours, feed less rather than more. The cock does not require so much food while he is resting, and you don't want to get him sluggish from overeating. Keep him a little bit on the hungry side during this time, and at the hour of battle he should be real hungry. It wont weaken him, and he will be sharp and eager. Just don't overdo it.
A few tips as to what to do and what to avoid may be helpful:
On a long haul, travel by night. The cocks rest better and it is cooler.
Tough on you but good for the cocks. A little discomfort or inconvenience to you is worth it, especially since you've spent weeks, months and years preparing for this event.
Be careful of odors. Any kind of odors. A cock's respiratory organs are extremely sensitive. If you want to paint or creosote your cock stalls or carrying cases, do it months in advance so that all the smells have disappeared. Be especially careful to avoid exhaust fumes from your automobile. These can ruin everything in just a few minutes. Avoid airconditioning units. These things affect adversely even human beings, and fowl are far more sensitive than people. Watch out for heat at any time, especially in the 72 hours. Heat weakens a cock tremendously. He can't sweat and throw it off like you can. Do everything you can to avoid getting a cock hot, particularly the 24 hours before battle.

On fight day feed only one-third white of hard-boiled egg and a few sips of water. If birds are to be fought in the afternoon, don't feed even the hard egg. You want them empty and hungry when they enter the pit. For exercise, just two or three short flies toward the work bench to keep their muscles loose. The lack of feed will not weaken them. Weigh in at the very last minute. Your birds may drop an ounce or two during the last few hours which will enable you to meet a smaller bird on the match list. Do all your trming out a few days prior to fight date. A couple a pecks at a cut orange or a sip of water after heeling is o.k, but many times I don't even do that.

To repeat: remember always that the foundation of this keep freshness, loose, relaxed muscles, alertness, eagerness, and confidence. Also remember that there is no substitute for your own thinking. No keep schedule can anticipate all the situations you will encounter. If you get into a jam, you might consult some other exoerienced cocker. He possibly could help you, but probably not, for he can not know all you have done or failed to do. In all likelihood you,ll have to figure it out for yourself. If the situation is real severe, which calls for drastic action, don't do it. Forget it, cuss me, and try again. At least you'll save your money.
I believe strngly that it is better to fight a cock when he is "ready" than when he is "conditioned". If a cock is in robust health, full of fire, and rarin' to go, that is the time to use him, even if he is a little heavy and has not been handled much. All any keep can do for a bird is put him is put him in the condition he is in right now. If you mess around with him for two or three weeks he very likely will lose that edge and not be as good as he is today.
After all it is the cock himself who must do the fighting. All any keep can do is to enable him to put forth the best effort of which he is capable.
I'll not tell you how good this keep is. That is for you to judge based upon your own experience with it. I've used it for years with conspicuous success in top company, and consistently set down outstanding cutting fowl. The system is as nearly foolproof as any I know.
So keep your old think tank working all the time you are following this keep, and I hope you knock'em all down!

Sincerely,
Narragansett


In the first printing of this booklet I goofed through not saying anything about sparring. It is an important part of the conditioning process, and most cockers do not make the most of it. I like to have fowl reasonably tame and accustomed to being handled and aquainted with their surroundings before sparring at all. It is unfair and likely to produce faulty judgement to spar a bird when it is wild, nervous and distracted by all the new surroundings. When you have the birds reasonably gentled down and aquainted with you, proceed as follows:

1st sparring. Bill the birds until they are thoroughly mad at each other, and drop them down real close together. Practically on top of one another. They will go together like a shot. Snatch up as quickly as you can,point at each other and drop down again, just as close as the first time. Snatch up immediately. Do this four times. The entire session will not take over half a minute. This teaches them to swing into action the second their feet touch the pit floor. Pet and rub them gently and return to their quarters.

2nd sparring. Start out the same way. Only between rounds take a step backward. This requires them to run a few steps before breaking. But keep the rounds a continuous process. No wait or hesitation between rounds.

3rd sparring. The same as number two, only increase the distance between the birds when setting down. They should cover the distance between them like a flash before breaking into the air. If they don't, shorten the distance and try again. No hesitation between pittings. On the third round of this session let them go at each other for a while. This is when you can judge their fighting style: whether they are low-headed, duckers, hit deliberately or merely fan the air, look where they hit, wheel, all that sort of thing. This is when you select your show. Give them a rest, then set down fairly close to each other, snatch up as soon as they come together and return to fly pens or scratch pens. Throw out the ones that do not make the team. This session should be held about a week before fight day.

4th sparring. About 48 hours before fight day. This is just a tune-up session to keep them on edge. Set down fairly close to each other and snatch up immediately. Only two rounds. You don't want them to get stiff or sore.


malilibat ni ang mata ko sang basa :)

SJCocker
October 1st, 2008, 06:05 AM
salamat to bal....gin kaloy-an man ah...good luck man a mga derby mo...
regardslang ko kay maninoy Boy Go..basi makita mo sya...
ah ok... may entry si maninoy mu sa UGBAP sa oct 3..:) . hambalon ko sya ah...nga hiyado mu si mike ...saku pang harus ya sa NEGROS ..

moxxx2000
October 1st, 2008, 06:23 AM
lampuwas na sa unos... may *** na naman bagyo nga sugataon:D .. pa tsek lng ko atendans ahhhh...

kmusta lng mga amigos ko... basa-basa ta dri anay.....dugay salom mo ba..diin ka nag halin?..pa puli-on ako kag indi ako ang mag kuha sang Diamond...ti bulang bulang ko anai a...

moxxx2000
October 1st, 2008, 06:49 AM
malilibat ni ang mata ko sang basa :) para ini sa mga libat para pag tapos nila basa mag tadlong panulokan nila...joke lang..na lo batt man ako sang basa ba:eek:

bebotzar
October 1st, 2008, 07:13 AM
mgo dante maayong adlaw lang da sa imo may pm ako da sa imo , waay ko gali ma hambal sa imo ang presyo kang mga stag ko.............
diri na lang ibutang toto eric para makita man namon.:D :D :D

rumpelstiltskin
October 1st, 2008, 07:19 AM
maayong adlaw lang sa tanan

JericP
October 1st, 2008, 07:25 AM
diri na lang ibutang toto eric para makita man namon.:D :D :D

toto bebot ari na may 30 heads ako ka mga gulang nga mga manok ginabaligya ko subong 2yrs old 3 yers old or more, may 20 heads ang mga winnier ang kalidad sang akon mga winner pwede ka fyt sa candelaria koredas 6K kung gusto nyp sparr 8k to 10 kag may *** man ako mga stag none banded 15 heads koredas 4k kung sparr 6k ang picture pag balik nalang ni toto ronel........

moxxx2000
October 1st, 2008, 07:48 AM
toto bebot ari na may 30 heads ako ka mga gulang nga mga manok ginabaligya ko subong 2yrs old 3 yers old or more, may 20 heads ang mga winnier ang kalidad sang akon mga winner pwede ka fyt sa candelaria koredas 6K kung gusto nyp sparr 8k to 10 kag may *** man ako mga stag none banded 15 heads koredas 4k kung sparr 6k ang picture pag balik nalang ni toto ronel........ma bakal ako toto eric...ang baratohon lang ang sa akon...:eek:

SJCocker
October 1st, 2008, 07:49 AM
MA SAKA NAMAN ANG BILI KA FEEDS .... may *** naman NEW PRICE LIST .. HUh.:confused:

Gilavar888
October 1st, 2008, 08:14 AM
mayad man nga aga/ gab i dira sa imu mego gil... kmusta lang dira ah:)

Kaagahon ni Doc bal mayad lang lawas kanimo dyan...ano may entry ka sa Bakbakan???

JericP
October 1st, 2008, 09:07 AM
ma bakal ako toto eric...ang baratohon lang ang sa akon...:eek:

toto moxx may *** na ako buyer makadto sila s farm ko .. umpisa naman ako sa puno ma breeding solo ko na ni ..........

JericP
October 1st, 2008, 09:26 AM
ma bakal ako toto eric...ang baratohon lang ang sa akon...:eek:

toto moxx may *** na ako buyer makadto sila s farm ko .. umpisa naman ako sa puno ma breeding solo ko na ni ..........

SJCocker
October 1st, 2008, 09:28 AM
Kaagahon ni Doc bal mayad lang lawas kanimo dyan...ano may entry ka sa Bakbakan???
yes.. may *** mego gil kon kaluy an..:) .nag papanaug ako 25 select para s bakbakan

redux
October 1st, 2008, 09:32 AM
toto moxx may *** na ako buyer makadto sila s farm ko .. umpisa naman ako sa puno ma breeding solo ko na ni ..........

toto JericP ang pang candelaria mo na ang ginabaligya mo?....baw kon may wawart lang ko nami tani ba....pisu lang akon masarangan....:D

JericP
October 1st, 2008, 09:45 AM
toto JericP ang pang candelaria mo na ang ginabaligya mo?....baw kon may wawart lang ko nami tani ba....pisu lang akon masarangan....:D

toto redux baligya ko tanan pati mga stag ko nga wala banded........ ang iban sini mga wninner sa bakbakan last year winner sa tangub kag winner sa pagba bull pag champion ko winnier sa pagba stag 2years ago. winner pag champion ko sa 3 cocks last year winner sa sa paderby ni toto moxx sa leganes may *** pagid tatlo ka winner last pagba bull stag

bebotzar
October 1st, 2008, 09:45 AM
siling mo sa akon 200 inyo gina preparar.:D :D :D
yes.. may *** mego gil kon kaluy an..:) .nag papanaug ako 25 select para s bakbakan

moxxx2000
October 1st, 2008, 09:51 AM
MA SAKA NAMAN ANG BILI KA FEEDS .... may *** naman NEW PRICE LIST .. HUh.:confused: sapag ka sakit nga balita ini...

SJCocker
October 1st, 2008, 09:52 AM
siling mo sa akon 200 inyo gina preparar.:D :D :D
ay apaw sa ka damu sina imu ya ba.....:confused:

moxxx2000
October 1st, 2008, 09:56 AM
toto moxx may *** na ako buyer makadto sila s farm ko .. umpisa naman ako sa puno ma breeding solo ko na ni ..........ngaa ano natabu kai Bong?..ma bulag na kamo?ti solohon mo nalang gali?...amo man dyapon to manog bantay mo?

JericP
October 1st, 2008, 10:03 AM
ngaa ano natabu kai Bong?..ma bulag na kamo?ti solohon mo nalang gali?...amo man dyapon to manog bantay mo?

toto moxx madugang ako isa ka taho sa Dec. pabalikon ko ang tinaho ko sang una maayo ni sya ma preparal sang manok amo na sya ng pa champion sa akon sa bull stag si bong basi ari na sila sa US next year....

Rabatak
October 1st, 2008, 10:03 AM
Maayong adlaw sa tanan nga mga amigos !!:)

JericP
October 1st, 2008, 10:12 AM
ngaa ano natabu kai Bong?..ma bulag na kamo?ti solohon mo nalang gali?...amo man dyapon to manog bantay mo?

ari na last call sang akon none banded stag 3 heads 10K

moxxx2000
October 1st, 2008, 10:12 AM
toto moxx madugang ako isa ka taho sa Dec. pabalikon ko ang tinaho ko sang una maayo ni sya ma preparal sang manok amo na sya ng pa champion sa akon sa bull stag si bong basi ari na sila sa US next year....amo gali..ti ok a...basi kon kulangon ka tinaho hambala lang ako kai mai ato didto sa Bitoon nga handler gaffer...naga tambay permi sa manokan ko....imported from Capiz ato..hehehe

SJCocker
October 1st, 2008, 10:12 AM
maayong adlaw lang moxx kag nung rabatak.....:) enjoy namun di HOLIDAY sang Muslim ba oct 1...:)

JericP
October 1st, 2008, 10:17 AM
amo gali..ti ok a...basi kon kulangon ka tinaho hambala lang ako kai mai ato didto sa Bitoon nga handler gaffer...naga tambay permi sa manokan ko....imported from Capiz ato..hehehe

toto moxx ang tinaho ko subong taga capiz man abaw ti kung doha sila dito mataas lupad sang akon manok sini :eek: hambalan talang ikaw pamangkota abi kung tag pila iya sweldo.........

Rabatak
October 1st, 2008, 10:17 AM
maayong adlaw lang moxx kag nung rabatak.....:) enjoy namun di HOLIDAY sang Muslim ba oct 1...:)

Maayo kay holiday man sa aton, ti kamusta bagyo dira,nakasulod na ?:)

SJCocker
October 1st, 2008, 10:20 AM
Maayo kay holiday man sa aton, ti kamusta bagyo dira,nakasulod na ?:)
kahapon bundak ulan sa jaro nung.. sa sj wala ya ... subong daw mainit naman panahon dire sa jaro... basi nag likaw siya.....:)

moxxx2000
October 1st, 2008, 10:20 AM
Originally Posted by tumandok
mga membro ta diri,

mangayo ako bulig sa inyo para sa paderby sang TH iloilo leg sa iloilo coliseum
.ACCEPTED BANDED STAGS --- PAGBA, NGBA, UGBAP, UGBA, GFBAN, BAKBAKAN, NSBA, RGG, CAGBA, and UNGBA.

NON BANDED STAGS ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE


nov 25, 2008

3 stag derby

pot money 2500.

palihog lang bulig para madayon. ipakita ta man sa mga mego ta sa negros nga kaya ta man magpromote sa iloilo para puwede naton ma ayu ang 2010 TH charity derby nga hiwaton sa iloilo.

tumandok 2 entries---confirm
felisa 1 entry---confirm
pinolim/JRB---1 entry confirm
devonloch/warl 1 entry---confirm
perth/torpas 1 entry---confirm
ilongopalos 1 entry---confirm
moxxx/ronel 1 entry---confirm
bebotzar 1 entry---confirm
pautog/jamesisakov 1 entry---confirm
jericp 1 entry---confirm
ebay 1 entry---confirm
yanbuwarrior 1 entry---confirm

Total----13 confirm entries


basi mai ari pa nga mai luyag mag pasundayag sang stag nila sa Nov.25,lihog lang singit...

JericP
October 1st, 2008, 10:22 AM
Maayo kay holiday man sa aton, ti kamusta bagyo dira,nakasulod na ?:)

toto rab ari ka gali maayong adlaw lang dasa imo

JericP
October 1st, 2008, 10:23 AM
kahapon bundak ulan sa jaro nung.. sa sj wala ya ... subong daw mainit naman panahon dire sa jaro... basi nag likaw siya.....:)

toto bal maayo man na presyo sang akon stag 3 heads 10k

moxxx2000
October 1st, 2008, 10:24 AM
toto moxx ang tinaho ko subong taga capiz man abaw ti kung doha sila dito mataas lupad sang akon manok sini :eek: hambalan talang ikaw pamangkota abi kung tag pila iya sweldo.........barato lang iya sweldo toto eric a..ang ma sarangan mo lang...hambalan ko sya anai a...

Rabatak
October 1st, 2008, 10:26 AM
ari na last call sang akon none banded stag 3 heads 10K

To Jeric,

Sus kanami tani bah !! Basi makaabot pa man ko sa Dec.,ah !!

JericP
October 1st, 2008, 10:28 AM
barato lang iya sweldo toto eric a..ang ma sarangan mo lang...hambalan ko sya anai a...

toto damo guid nga salamat nde man to budlay ila ubrahon sa manokn basi kung ma baligya ko ubos akon mga gulang kag stag wala na sila bubudan hehe breeding nalang ila ubrahon kag pag limyo sa farm ko

Rabatak
October 1st, 2008, 10:29 AM
toto rab ari ka gali maayong adlaw lang dasa imo

To Jeric,

Ti cancel na gali ang aton pang Candelaria sini...:)
Maayong adlaw man da.

JericP
October 1st, 2008, 10:30 AM
To Jeric,

Sus kanami tani bah !! Basi makaabot pa man ko sa Dec.,ah !!

toto rab amo nman ni akon bilin sa farm ko ang mga stag ko sa bakbakan almost 2 way crosses ni fyt ko sa bakbakan ang mada-og diri pwede ko sila balik sa nanany ..

JericP
October 1st, 2008, 10:32 AM
To Jeric,

Ti cancel na gali ang aton pang Candelaria sini...:)
Maayong adlaw man da.

toto rab cancel na ............. nami tani fyt ang akong mga gulang sa Candelaria

Rabatak
October 1st, 2008, 10:34 AM
toto rab amo nman ni akon bilin sa farm ko ang mga stag ko sa bakbakan almost 2 way crosses ni fyt ko sa bakbakan ang mada-og diri pwede ko sila balik sa nanany ..

To Jeric,
Ti ang mga non-bonded mo 2 way crosses man ina ?Tagpila na ka months subong ?

easy goer
October 1st, 2008, 10:35 AM
toto damo guid nga salamat nde man to bugalay ilaw ubrahon sa manokn basi kung ma baligya ko ubos akon mga gulang kag stag wala na sila bubudan hehe breeding nalang ila ubrahon kag pag limyo sa farm ko


baw timing gid tani sa next year sa april pang 3 cocks sa oton ba! anu nga mga linyada ato nong erick? basi palang ba la haw para may gamiton kami ni nong palos next year!

JericP
October 1st, 2008, 10:37 AM
To Jeric,
Ti ang mga non-bonded mo 2 way crosses man ina ?Tagpila na ka months subong ?

toto rab mga 6 month na sila may *** man tatlo pure nga butcher doha ka spangle isa ka pula ang butcher nde for sale ehhehhe :D :eek:

JericP
October 1st, 2008, 10:38 AM
baw timing gid tani sa next year sa april pang 3 cocks sa oton ba! anu nga mga linyada ato nong erick? basi palang ba la haw para may gamiton kami ni nong palos next year!

toto easy wala ako ka balo si bayaw lang may record sini maayo ni sila nga linyada puro ni imported ila materials

JericP
October 1st, 2008, 10:43 AM
ari pure spangle butcher

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o167/jericp/100_0698.jpg

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o167/jericp/DSCN1155.jpg

easy goer
October 1st, 2008, 10:43 AM
toto easy wala ako ka balo si bayaw lang may record sini maayo ni sila nga linyada puro ni imported ila materials

istoryahon ko danay si nong palos basi kursunada ya man bala haw...

JericP
October 1st, 2008, 10:45 AM
istoryahon ko danay si nong palos basi kursunada ya man bala haw...

toto easy ayos ........... hambali lang nyo ako

JericP
October 1st, 2008, 10:46 AM
ang picture kang none banded stag hulaton talang pag balik ni toto ronel diri sa US

easy goer
October 1st, 2008, 10:47 AM
toto easy ayos ........... hambali lang nyo ako


oki doks! basta reserved sa amun ang class A ha!...hehehe...

JericP
October 1st, 2008, 10:49 AM
oki doks! basta reserved sa amun ang class A ha!...hehehe...

gusto mo A plus pa heehehhehe

JericP
October 1st, 2008, 10:50 AM
ma out ako anay manawag pa ako sa pinas

Ronel Damasco
October 1st, 2008, 10:54 AM
ma out ako anay manawag pa ako sa pinas

mahapit lang ako sang makadali....

to eaasy,
ari sa akon ang dvd mo guinpadala.....
nong bibot ari man sa akon....

madamo pa ddto may guinpadala....wala ko pa matan aw kon kay sin o ang iban....

nong eric kuhaon ko lang kay mitso ang dvd nga padala mo karon.....

kamusta sa tanan bag o lang ako katika sako guyid permi daw natamadan na ako maghalin sa balay kay gainolan lang permi....

Gilavar888
October 1st, 2008, 10:58 AM
toto rab mga 6 month na sila may *** man tatlo pure nga butcher doha ka spangle isa ka pula ang butcher nde for sale ehhehhe :D :eek:

Toto JericP Ti wala na gali kita balantayan sa candelaria...

Ronel Damasco
October 1st, 2008, 10:59 AM
ma out ako anay manawag pa ako sa pinas


tan awon ko lang kung ka post pa ako kay kahina kang server gya

easy goer
October 1st, 2008, 11:04 AM
mahapit lang ako sang makadali....

to eaasy,
ari sa akon ang dvd mo guinpadala.....
nong bibot ari man sa akon....

madamo pa ddto may guinpadala....wala ko pa matan aw kon kay sin o ang iban....

nong eric kuhaon ko lang kay mitso ang dvd nga padala mo karon.....

kamusta sa tanan bag o lang ako katika sako guyid permi daw natamadan na ako maghalin sa balay kay gainolan lang permi....


nong ron mayad nga aga sa imu dyan! baw timing gid imu baksayon ga ulan2 gid... kabay pa nga hindi budlay sa imu mag bitbit sang amun mga gin padala...pasensya gid kay ikaw lang abi ang nakabakasyon dyan..bay-e lang kay mabawi man ako next time!..hehehe...

salamat gid nong ron! enjoy lang dyan ang dispedida party kung may ***!hehehe!!!!

bebotzar
October 1st, 2008, 11:05 AM
mahapit lang ako sang makadali....

to eaasy,
ari sa akon ang dvd mo guinpadala.....
nong bibot ari man sa akon....salamat gid toto ronel .para makita ta man bunal sang stag ta.

madamo pa ddto may guinpadala....wala ko pa matan aw kon kay sin o ang iban....

nong eric kuhaon ko lang kay mitso ang dvd nga padala mo karon.....

kamusta sa tanan bag o lang ako katika sako guyid permi daw natamadan na ako maghalin sa balay kay gainolan lang permi....

Rabatak
October 1st, 2008, 11:17 AM
toto rab mga 6 month na sila may *** man tatlo pure nga butcher doha ka spangle isa ka pula ang butcher nde for sale ehhehhe :D :eek:

Indi ko sang butcher, To Jeric,ah !!
Kelso or lemon crosses lang akon kon may *** available !!:)

JericP
October 1st, 2008, 11:36 AM
Indi ko sang butcher, To Jeric,ah !!
Kelso or lemon crosses lang akon kon may *** available !!:)

toto rab mga gulang na akon kelso lemon mga winner......... basi satg may *** pamangkoton ko si bayaw

JericP
October 1st, 2008, 11:37 AM
tan awon ko lang kung ka post pa ako kay kahina kang server gya

toto ronel damo guid nga salamat happy trip lang da regards lang sa imo familya

JericP
October 1st, 2008, 11:40 AM
Toto JericP Ti wala na gali kita balantayan sa candelaria...

toto gil wala na sa bakbakan ako ma champion double champ pa heehheh

Rabatak
October 1st, 2008, 11:41 AM
toto rab mga gulang na akon kelso lemon mga winner......... basi satg may *** pamangkoton ko si bayaw

Ok ah,thanks gid ,Toto Jeric !!
Ang inog tubong ko sa imo sa Candelaria,ibakal ko na lang Tuba kag sumsuman nga karaho,hehe.

easy goer
October 1st, 2008, 11:44 AM
nong jeric! may *** ka to kelso kag hatch nga stag ? pure?

yanbuwarrior
October 1st, 2008, 12:41 PM
Maayong aga sa tanan...easy goer,SJ,Rabatak,jeric p kag sa tanan.

7:38 oras dire sa doha.


rgds

GRAZI
October 1st, 2008, 12:48 PM
Kamusta man da sa inyo tanan.



Maayong aga sa tanan...easy goer,SJ,Rabatak,jeric p kag sa tanan.

7:38 oras dire sa doha.


rgds

sagitaurus
October 1st, 2008, 01:23 PM
Maayong aga sa tanan...easy goer,SJ,Rabatak,jeric p kag sa tanan.

7:38 oras dire sa doha.


rgdsTo Pat ano kmo oras pauli?


Maayong adlaw lang sa tanan.:):):):)

luis
October 1st, 2008, 01:42 PM
To Pat ano kmo oras pauli?


Maayong adlaw lang sa tanan


Toto Sag Good Morning!!!.....11:00PM na kami naka uli ni toto Pat, naganahan ako ka tagay upod si Toto Angelo nang hawid abi kay wala siya kainuman......indi kaw malipat ka speech mo para sa Ilonggo gathering sa oct3 ako na lang mabasa sang imo speech on your behalf...:p :p :p ....ari na di ang imo sunglass....

sagitaurus
October 1st, 2008, 02:19 PM
Toto Sag Good Morning!!!.....11:00PM na kami naka uli ni toto Pat, naganahan ako ka tagay upod si Toto Angelo nang hawid abi kay wala siya kainuman......indi kaw malipat ka speech mo para sa Ilonggo gathering sa oct3 ako na lang mabasa sang imo speech on your behalf...:p :p :p ....ari na di ang imo sunglass....ok a mahimo ta speech. kadtuan ko lang da sunglass ko kron. Good morning lang jan:):):)

tebs69
October 1st, 2008, 02:58 PM
maayong adlaw sa tanan....



ma hataw baligya si migo jeric ba,,, ang bokay padaku lang da kay paresan ta ka oldforce white ni carol nesmith kon padal-an ko ka migo ko ......

devonloch
October 1st, 2008, 03:12 PM
Maayong adlaw sa tanan

Ari ang BOKAY ko dako na :D

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/REDMOUNT_GF/Redmount%202008%20Season/Picture076.jpg

Ilongongpalos
October 1st, 2008, 03:45 PM
tan awon ko lang kung ka post pa ako kay kahina kang server gya

Maayong adlaw kag gab-e sa tanan!!! kamusta lang ako sa mga migo ta dire...


To Ronel lihog halong nga indi ka ma chick sang custom pag abot mo dire( Precution sang DVD) Basi over luggage kana damo nga salamat sa wala pa, kabay nga maka abot ka balik wala sablag.

rumpelstiltskin
October 1st, 2008, 03:45 PM
hi lang sa mga fwends ko dre

devonloch
October 1st, 2008, 03:51 PM
Originally Posted by SJCocker
MA SAKA NAMAN ANG BILI KA FEEDS .... may *** naman NEW PRICE LIST .. HUh.

sapag ka sakit nga balita ini...


Ma SUPERMAX na lang ako:D

devonloch
October 1st, 2008, 03:54 PM
Post ko lang mga off color ko nga mga stags

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/REDMOUNT_GF/Redmount%202008%20Season/Picture080.jpg

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/REDMOUNT_GF/Redmount%202008%20Season/Picture081.jpg

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/REDMOUNT_GF/Redmount%202008%20Season/Picture076.jpg

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/REDMOUNT_GF/Redmount%202008%20Season/Picture072.jpg

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/REDMOUNT_GF/Redmount%202008%20Season/Picture079.jpg

jrb.uk
October 1st, 2008, 03:59 PM
maayong adlaw sa tanan....gwa naman tinago ni toto aloy ba....galaway man ko tulok ah...:D

devonloch
October 1st, 2008, 04:00 PM
Paaman :D

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/REDMOUNT_GF/Redmount%202008%20Season/Picture082.jpg

rumpelstiltskin
October 1st, 2008, 04:07 PM
MA SAKA NAMAN ANG BILI KA FEEDS .... may *** naman NEW PRICE LIST .. HUh.:confused:

puga duha lang ni kabutang either mauntat ta manok or ma buhin production hehe

sa 3 ni doc ma en3 ka? ma entry kami eh finans ni nene celiz kay ubos gid stag nya sa kay frank.....nami entry name nya DISINTENG IMPAKTA

tumandok
October 1st, 2008, 04:14 PM
toto bebot ari na may 30 heads ako ka mga gulang nga mga manok ginabaligya ko subong 2yrs old 3 yers old or more, may 20 heads ang mga winnier ang kalidad sang akon mga winner pwede ka fyt sa candelaria koredas 6K kung gusto nyp sparr 8k to 10 kag may *** man ako mga stag none banded 15 heads koredas 4k kung sparr 6k ang picture pag balik nalang ni toto ronel........

wala sang tag 800?

jrb.uk
October 1st, 2008, 04:17 PM
Originally Posted by JericP
toto bebot ari na may 30 heads ako ka mga gulang nga mga manok ginabaligya ko subong 2yrs old 3 yers old or more, may 20 heads ang mga winnier ang kalidad sang akon mga winner pwede ka fyt sa candelaria koredas 6K kung gusto nyp sparr 8k to 10 kag may *** man ako mga stag none banded 15 heads koredas 4k kung sparr 6k ang picture pag balik nalang ni toto ronel........
to jeric, ang tag- isa libo wala dire:D ?? taas taasan ta gamay....daw buy and sell na kita sini hehehehehe

rumpelstiltskin
October 1st, 2008, 04:20 PM
boss dante kg nong joe maayong hapon lang dra

tumandok
October 1st, 2008, 04:26 PM
puga duha lang ni kabutang either mauntat ta manok or ma buhin production hehe

sa 3 ni doc ma en3 ka? ma entry kami eh finans ni nene celiz kay ubos gid stag nya sa kay frank.....nami entry name nya DISINTENG IMPAKTA

indi na siya sang DIBORSYADO nga entry name

tumandok
October 1st, 2008, 04:26 PM
boss dante kg nong joe maayong hapon lang dra

maayong hapon man dira sa imo atty, ready na ang mga abuhon sa biernes?

rumpelstiltskin
October 1st, 2008, 04:30 PM
maayong hapon man dira sa imo atty, ready na ang mga abuhon sa biernes?

indi abuhun entra ko mga runhead hehe kay mga ila basi ma dretso bla haw

tebs69
October 1st, 2008, 04:34 PM
Post ko lang mga off color ko nga mga stags

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/REDMOUNT_GF/Redmount%202008%20Season/Picture080.jpg

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/REDMOUNT_GF/Redmount%202008%20Season/Picture081.jpg

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/REDMOUNT_GF/Redmount%202008%20Season/Picture076.jpg

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/REDMOUNT_GF/Redmount%202008%20Season/Picture072.jpg

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/REDMOUNT_GF/Redmount%202008%20Season/Picture079.jpg



migo devon


kumpletos recados ba, ang white kg DOM na namian ko ... may import O.W. Lanier DOM man ko nga munga umpisan ko man pakupa para may pasampukon man ko sunod tuig ...

jrb.uk
October 1st, 2008, 04:37 PM
boss dante kg nong joe maayong hapon lang dra
maayong hapon man dira atty.....ano balita mapasundayag ka nman sa friday??

tebs69
October 1st, 2008, 05:30 PM
indi abuhun entra ko mga runhead hehe kay mga ila basi ma dretso bla haw

devonloch
October 1st, 2008, 06:22 PM
Testing man lang na ang Dom ko,cross sa Cowen :D
migo devon


kumpletos recados ba, ang white kg DOM na namian ko ... may import O.W. Lanier DOM man ko nga munga umpisan ko man pakupa para may pasampukon man ko sunod tuig ...

devonloch
October 1st, 2008, 06:24 PM
To Joe,may isa pa ako nga nalimtan nupa wala pko nakatulog :D

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/REDMOUNT_GF/Redmount%202008%20Season/Picture077.jpg
maayong adlaw sa tanan....gwa naman tinago ni toto aloy ba....galaway man ko tulok ah...:D

tebs69
October 1st, 2008, 06:48 PM
Testing man lang na ang Dom ko,cross sa Cowen :D



migo devon


nami kay daku ni ang imo cross nga DOM ... ang akon may basehan nako away kay TONIO DOM grounder kg ga wave, isa lang ni DOM namon .. sa GREEK FIRE WH ko e cross para taas mag angat kg develop cutting nila ..

moxxx2000
October 1st, 2008, 07:13 PM
To Joe,may isa pa ako nga nalimtan nupa wala pko nakatulog :D

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/REDMOUNT_GF/Redmount%202008%20Season/Picture077.jpgari tahum iya tindog

tanglad84
October 1st, 2008, 07:14 PM
Post ko lang mga off color ko nga mga stags

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/REDMOUNT_GF/Redmount%202008%20Season/Picture080.jpg

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/REDMOUNT_GF/Redmount%202008%20Season/Picture081.jpg

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/REDMOUNT_GF/Redmount%202008%20Season/Picture076.jpg

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/REDMOUNT_GF/Redmount%202008%20Season/Picture072.jpg

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/REDMOUNT_GF/Redmount%202008%20Season/Picture079.jpg



Manong Devs.....baw, ga hipos hipos ka lang gali...:):)....maayong adlaw/gab-e sa tanan...

bebotzar
October 1st, 2008, 07:15 PM
musta lang sa tanan.

tanglad84
October 1st, 2008, 07:16 PM
ari tahum iya tindog



san-o puli mo?.....masyar ko kagina kay migo guapo....na ngape...;):) kag istorya gamay....balik na ko Oct. 6....vancouver joined ko.

Maning
October 1st, 2008, 07:52 PM
wala sang tag 800?

pangayo lang gid ya ang akon masarangan.....

moxxx2000
October 1st, 2008, 07:58 PM
san-o puli mo?.....masyar ko kagina kay migo guapo....na ngape...;):) kag istorya gamay....balik na ko Oct. 6....vancouver joined ko.timing guid gali..sa Oct 6 man flite ko..PR 502 0945-1330 ang halin sa Singapore to Manila..connecting flite sa mga 3pm guro pa Iloilo..

bebs espinosa
October 1st, 2008, 09:13 PM
Post ko lang mga off color ko nga mga stags

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/REDMOUNT_GF/Redmount%202008%20Season/Picture080.jpg

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/REDMOUNT_GF/Redmount%202008%20Season/Picture081.jpg

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/REDMOUNT_GF/Redmount%202008%20Season/Picture076.jpg

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/REDMOUNT_GF/Redmount%202008%20Season/Picture072.jpg

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/REDMOUNT_GF/Redmount%202008%20Season/Picture079.jpg


to devs.,

pasampoka man ina be para malinggaw man kita.............hehehehehee:D

jrb.uk
October 1st, 2008, 09:13 PM
To Joe,may isa pa ako nga nalimtan nupa wala pko nakatulog :D

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/REDMOUNT_GF/Redmount%202008%20Season/Picture077.jpg
amo ni tong daw pare-pareho sa akon hu.....ari to aloy hu lantawa bi kun pareho....

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn83/ec3012/Image003.jpg

bebs espinosa
October 1st, 2008, 09:52 PM
http://s349.photobucket.com/flash/remix/player.swf?videoURL=http://vid349.photobucket.com/albums/q369/dok22/manok/e9eff119.pbr&hostname

from toto devs sweatik hen over ruble broodcock.......

pasaka-on kolang para dali makita....heheheheheheh, mayong aga sa tanan.

devonloch
October 1st, 2008, 10:46 PM
May agi na inang imo To Joe,kulang na lang sentensyahan kag makapa Bilibid ina sya,ang akon wala pa makabuno :D
amo ni tong daw pare-pareho sa akon hu.....ari to aloy hu lantawa bi kun pareho....

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn83/ec3012/Image003.jpg

devonloch
October 1st, 2008, 10:48 PM
To Bebs,ka tahum gid...mga nagmi panindog ang mga pabuto mo

Mag pakaisa ni sila huh...:D


To Joe,may isa pa ako nga nalimtan nupa wala pko nakatulog :D

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/REDMOUNT_GF/Redmount%202008%20Season/Picture077.jpg

http://s349.photobucket.com/flash/remix/player.swf?videoURL=http://vid349.photobucket.com/albums/q369/dok22/manok/e9eff119.pbr&hostname

from toto devs sweatik hen over ruble broodcock.......

pasaka-on kolang para dali makita....heheheheheheh, mayong aga sa tanan.

GRAZI
October 1st, 2008, 11:01 PM
Migo moxx, maayo lang nga pag lakat, akon iya friday 2355 abot ko manila, connecting ko 0445 sabado sang aga.Tulog ta anay sa airport sini. Malagaw ko sa imo sa Bitoon gina agyan ko permi balay mo kay ga via diversion ko puli sa sara.



timing guid gali..sa Oct 6 man flite ko..PR 502 0945-1330 ang halin sa Singapore to Manila..connecting flite sa mga 3pm guro pa Iloilo..

bebs espinosa
October 1st, 2008, 11:08 PM
To Bebs,ka tahum gid...mga nagmi panindog ang mga pabuto mo

Mag pakaisa ni sila huh...:D


INDE NATA SINE MABITIN SA HEIGHT, MAY MGA 2WAY NAKO NAKA-RESERVE PARA PANG UP-GRADE KO SA PUTI KAG LEMON...... TESTING KO ANAY ANG COMBINATION NILA BASI NAG CLICK MAN SA RUBLE KO.......

ANG MGA LEMON KO TELESTINGGAN PA NEXT YEAR, PAG LUMOSOT ANG APAT DIRETSO NA BREEDING DAYON SA SWEATER/RUBLE NA HEN.......

WALA KADA SAMPOK.........? POST ABI PARA MALIPAY TA .....HEHEHEHEHEE:D

jrb.uk
October 2nd, 2008, 12:16 AM
May agi na inang imo To Joe,kulang na lang sentensyahan kag makapa Bilibid ina sya,ang akon wala pa makabuno :D
hahahahahaha.....2x na ina to aloy in 2 weeks derby tanan....

yanbuwarrior
October 2nd, 2008, 12:53 AM
Wa-ay tao sa payag.


rgds

luis
October 2nd, 2008, 01:03 AM
Wa-ay tao sa payag.


rgds


mego ari ko di sa kilid kilid naga pakuribong lang.....musta dyan maramig dun sa location mo?....maayong nga gab-i sa tanan.....

redux
October 2nd, 2008, 01:12 AM
migo luis kag migo tebs maayong adlaw/gabi lang da sa inyo ah...kag sa tanan nga online subong...

nikita
October 2nd, 2008, 01:12 AM
Paaman :D

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/REDMOUNT_GF/Redmount%202008%20Season/Picture082.jpg
Migo Devs, gud am/pm 2 u nice kak nano na del tigre nga bloodline ina?

yanbuwarrior
October 2nd, 2008, 01:13 AM
mego ari ko di sa kilid kilid naga pakuribong lang.....musta dyan maramig dun sa location mo?....maayong nga gab-i sa tanan.....

Migo luis,

indi pa gid man pwede na e off ang aircon sa kwarto.

rgds

yanbuwarrior
October 2nd, 2008, 01:16 AM
migo luis kag migo tebs maayong adlaw/gabi lang da sa inyo ah...kag sa tanan nga online subong...

Migo redux,

mayad nga gabi dyan ka nimo.

rgds

yanbuwarrior
October 2nd, 2008, 01:18 AM
Migo Devs, gud am/pm 2 u nice kak nano na del tigre nga bloodline ina?

Migo nikita,

Maayong gabi.

Manggilala lang ta sa imo.


rgds

redux
October 2nd, 2008, 01:22 AM
Migo redux,

mayad nga gabi dyan ka nimo.

rgds

aga di subong toto yanbu...hehehehe...sa diin ka na nga parte sang kalibutan...nagbalik ka na?...

devonloch
October 2nd, 2008, 01:27 AM
May *** tani mga sampok pero kay natak an ang naga download maghulat kay ka dugay kuno,ano abi kay wala nila gina utod-utod nupa...try ko sa sunod ah
INDE NATA SINE MABITIN SA HEIGHT, MAY MGA 2WAY NAKO NAKA-RESERVE PARA PANG UP-GRADE KO SA PUTI KAG LEMON...... TESTING KO ANAY ANG COMBINATION NILA BASI NAG CLICK MAN SA RUBLE KO.......

ANG MGA LEMON KO TELESTINGGAN PA NEXT YEAR, PAG LUMOSOT ANG APAT DIRETSO NA BREEDING DAYON SA SWEATER/RUBLE NA HEN.......

WALA KADA SAMPOK.........? POST ABI PARA MALIPAY TA .....HEHEHEHEHEE:D

luis
October 2nd, 2008, 01:58 AM
Migo luis,

indi pa gid man pwede na e off ang aircon sa kwarto.

rgds

Toto Redux we are Band of brother's kami diri sa Qatar....si toto Pat yanbu,....Toto Dante,...Toto Sagitaurus....ari kami iba-iba ang location lang namon.....maayo nga lawas man dira sa imo kag sa tanan nga naka online.....

nikita
October 2nd, 2008, 02:00 AM
Migo nikita,

Maayong gabi.

Manggilala lang ta sa imo.


rgds
Migo Yanbu,puede man taga kabat 1 ako pero dri ko ya naga tinir sa europe(hitler home town) for 20 yrs na naga pauli lang every 3 yrs para supot2 pang bulang, and bakasyon

yanbuwarrior
October 2nd, 2008, 02:01 AM
aga di subong toto yanbu...hehehehe...sa diin ka na nga parte sang kalibutan...nagbalik ka na?...

Mig,

Balik naman ubra subong ari sa Qatar.

kamusta da sa inyo.

rgds

yanbuwarrior
October 2nd, 2008, 02:04 AM
Migo Yanbu,puede man taga kabat 1 ako pero dri ko ya naga tinir sa europe(hitler home town) for 20 yrs na naga pauli lang every 3 yrs para supot2 pang bulang, and bakasyon

Mig,

Good luck lang dira sa imo.

halong lang permi.

rgds

warl26
October 2nd, 2008, 02:14 AM
mayung gab e lang kag ka agahun sa pinas,,,, kamusta sa naka online,,, migo luis,,, happy b.day lang.,.,:D

nikita
October 2nd, 2008, 02:26 AM
Migo Yanbu halong man da, ang akon grupo naga agi dira sa Qatar pro ako ya diri naga agi sa Abu Dhabi kay 1 hr lang ang stop over kon sa Qatar almost 10 -12 hrs kon kaisa ma delayed pa going 2 mla daw chance passenger ang igo nila, then 2 kabat 1 airport kon maabutan mo ang last trip nga plane. rgds

tumandok
October 2nd, 2008, 02:35 AM
maayo lawas sa tanan....

luis
October 2nd, 2008, 02:44 AM
mayung gab e lang kag ka agahun sa pinas,,,, kamusta sa naka online,,, migo luis,,, happy b.day lang.,.,:D


Mego Warl salamat......maayo nga lawas dira sa imo.....my 36th birthday buas:p :p :p babyface man guihapon basta may manok lang....:D :D

tumandok
October 2nd, 2008, 02:49 AM
Mego Warl salamat......maayo nga lawas dira sa imo.....my 36th birthday buas:p :p :p babyface man guihapon basta may manok lang....:D :D

advance happy birthday. sa friday na ang kainan...

warl26
October 2nd, 2008, 02:50 AM
maayo lawas sa tanan....

nong dante halung lang da ah,


parehu ta mig basta may amnok lang *** pamilya oki na :D:D..tuba lang akun ya ah,,,,:)

luis
October 2nd, 2008, 03:05 AM
advance happy birthday. sa friday na ang kainan...

[B]salamat toto Dante, ma upod ko sa inyo available ako anytime....representative ako ni toto Sag kag Pat....:) :) :) B]

redux
October 2nd, 2008, 03:08 AM
Mego Warl salamat......maayo nga lawas dira sa imo.....my 36th birthday buas:p :p :p babyface man guihapon basta may manok lang....:D :D


toto Luis advance happy b-day..baw ti sadya gid gali dira buas eh...mamulutan naman ta na eh...

luis
October 2nd, 2008, 03:12 AM
toto Luis advance happy b-day..baw ti sadya gid gali dira buas eh...mamulutan naman ta na eh...

salamat Mego,....Limited lang ang pag inum diri kay basi ma deport kon alang-alangon mo lang...he...he...he..nag kita-kit's na kami kahapon sa ila balay ni toto Dante ang tropang Qatar te' nag tagay tagay man diotay ang grupo...

easy goer
October 2nd, 2008, 03:28 AM
mangamusta lang ko sa mga ga online subong! mayad lang nga lawas sa tanan!

ma post ko di bala anay sang akun halampanganan dire....pam padula homesick!hehehe...

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