moisture

[joel mat]

doc...gd day..what is moisture?to gamefowl,what is the importance.,how to maintain moisture?during pointing of a cock...how to obtain moisture? thanks in advance.....:cool: :cool: :D :) :confused:

[joel mat]

waay tawo sa payag....................hayyyy............:) :D :D

[Sureball]

the exact moisture of fowls is between 4 to 5 am

[joel mat]

thanks sir....it means moisture can be obtain in sorroundings,not in feeding..........:D :) :)

[joel mat]

sir,sureball....another moisture is soaking concentrate the whole night before feeding....?thanks:)

[joel mat]

a ok.......moisture, is liquid content of gamefowl:)

[hope1126]

moisture is measured by the droppings , observe the droppings during the keep

[xjr]

if u have electric in the cock house you can use a dehumidifier if 2 damp or a humidifer if 2 dry try to maintain 70 to 75 degrees of humidity this will have your cocks at the proper moister for cutting

[joel mat]

if u have electric in the cock house you can use a dehumidifier if 2 damp or a humidifer if 2 dry try to maintain 70 to 75 degrees of humidity this will have your cocks at the proper moister for cutting

it is advisable to have presence of water in the day before the fight?thanks

[BILLABONG]

up ko lang po. . .

[joel mat]

up ko lang po. . .

[BILLABONG]

a ok.......moisture, is liquid content of gamefowl:)


:D :D :D

[joel mat]

:D :D :D
if we want to direct our lives, we must take control of our consistent actions.

it's not what we do once in a while that shapes our lives.....


but what we do consistently"

cockmate pag sabog ba talaga ang droppings sa araw o mismong laban hindi dapat ilaban ang manok

[BILLABONG]

cockmate pag sabog ba talaga ang droppings sa araw o mismong laban hindi dapat ilaban ang manok


it can be wet during the keeping period but that is only your reference and you have to control your moisture.

sluggish ang nokis mo pag wet ang droppings or pag subra nman dry wala namang powers. . .

hope this help. . .

[Neil ma]

A well condition, healhty fightingcock will not drink a lot of water.

[Neil ma]

A well condition, healhty fightingcock will not drink a lot of water.
specially during the fight day

[Superboy]

up up up up up up

[joel mat]

A well condition, healhty fightingcock will not drink a lot of water.

during fight day no need to drink water,how to identify a well pointed cock.....?

[Taga_Cebu]

best way i can tell their moisture is by feel and their droppings. If you can pick up their droppings intact and it sticks to the wall when you throw it, then he has the right moisture in him. Just my opinion. :)

[joel mat]

best way i can tell their moisture is by feel and their droppings. If you can pick up their droppings intact and it sticks to the wall when you throw it, then he has the right moisture in him. Just my opinion. :)

[nilodeleon]

a cock being wet or dry during fight is not an exact science, just try to avoid the extremes.
hope this helps,
nilo

[TAURUS5172]

best way i can tell their moisture is by feel and their droppings. If you can pick up their droppings intact and it sticks to the wall when you throw it, then he has the right moisture in him. Just my opinion. :)

[Mudflop]

Here is my take on moisture. Not taking away anything from others comments. All are helpfull.

Gut Moisture and Flesh Moisture are two separate things. Gut moisture is not problem during the feeding or before showing. They can dump our loads or lots of water like droppings with little brown pellet sized turds. It don't matter as the end result is what maatters. However, on flesh moisture if too wet they fall apart quickly when hit and are too sluggish to move around in the pit. They will hit harder, but they can't get their aim accurate. Now if they are too dry they will break way up than every before throw a thousand licks, but none could penetrate as they can't stretch far enough. Watching the droppings is a good indicator, but a conditioner needs to learn how to feel the cocks and each type of family also will have a different feel. It takes practice. When holding the cock try moving the skin slightly below the crop with your fingers on the breast if it moves easily without being able to be lifted too much the moisture may be right. It the skin is very loose and could be lifted they may be too wet. If the skin is hard to move when pushed with your fingers they may be too dry. Another indication of being too dry if the legs don't move backward too far and the leg muscles are too firm. This is how I check my birds, but knowing your cocks and knowing how to upload moisture and then feeding dryier feed and withholding a little water to pull out the moisture from their muscle cavities will make them feel wider and bigger yet the weight stays the same. Every conditioning facility must have a good set of scales as in a normal cock is at least 55% of body weight to be moisture. When a cock is being worked, then rested and fed properly and watered. His system will automatically upload enough moisture for his normal nourishment plus a little more to compensate for the work that took out some of his flesh moisture. This is why we work the cocks in increments so they will continue to upload adequate moisture into the body muscle cavities and into some bones to compensate for the next working session. When we begin the process of working less they will begin to drink less yet still hold the moisture in muscle cavities. When we change into drier feed and withhold water, they will pull the moisture from their muscle cavities to properly digest the drier feed. Watching the droppings is a good indicator of how much water is being utilized in the digestive system. Some obtained from the water provided and some from the muscle cavities. You can tell as the muscle cavity moisture when pulled will widen the cock and if widened too much will have a hollow feel somewhat like a volleyball air up a little too much. They must feel wider and not hollow and not too heavy or what is called leady. In addition the muscles will feel puffy and somewhat springy. This takes practice and once you find it you will never forget it as the fowl will show at least ten times better than a normal spar. In addition they must be coming up on point when walking up the stairs to the pit. On point is when their legs are drawn closer and their tail bone closes a bit from being empty and their guts and body organs drawn upward towards the front of the body. The gizzard then rest under the left leg and can be felt by rubbing slightly the body inside of the left leg. Don't over do it as the gizzard is very sensitive, but rubbing slightly with your finger tips you will feel it if it is in place. It feels as the outside edge of a silver dollar. When you learn to feel for the gizzard, you will know when you are about to let loose a well condition, on point fighting machine. Sorry for so long as these things are hard to explain. Hope this helps.

[Nortacs]

very well said mr mudflop!
when it comes to conditioning and pointing the gamecock it takes a lot of FEEL, we can only achieve it through experience and common sense. we can have all the keeps and all medications available but if we lack that FEEL for our fowl then we cant be having the wins.
cockfighting is a "hands on" endeavor.

[cnucum]

very nice mudflop... :) I'd like to add 2 cents...

there will be some cocks that "condition" themselves very well, they always eat well, dry or wet feeding and only seems to drink "enough". once you feel them, they are what mudflop describes. I got some that are like that, one of em is a brood cock, on the brood pen or on the cord, he always is the same...

my point is, every cock is different, even full brothers, so study them individually, spending more time at observing each fowl will help you in a large way on how to approach them at putting the correct moisture on them... ;)

Chris

[TAURUS5172]

very nice mudflop... :) I'd like to add 2 cents...

there will be some cocks that "condition" themselves very well, they always eat well, dry or wet feeding and only seems to drink "enough". once you feel them, they are what mudflop describes. I got some that are like that, one of em is a brood cock, on the brood pen or on the cord, he always is the same...

my point is, every cock is different, even full brothers, so study them individually, spending more time at observing each fowl will help you in a large way on how to approach them at putting the correct moisture on them... ;)

Chris

[Mudflop]

Yes Chris you are correct regarding some birds that will self train and rest in between. They seem to always be in shape and spar the same each time. I have come across many of them and it makes conditioning them so easy as they teach me how to do it naturally be observing them. If only I know how to get those genes into everyone I raise. I'm glad you have one in the brood pen. That is where he belongs. If ever you find a way to lock in his genes into his offspring, pls let me know. It is something I keep trying to do. Maybe I won't succeed in this lifetime, but at least I would know that I have tried my best which is all I can expect from my warriors as well.

[cnucum]

Yes Chris you are correct regarding some birds that will self train and rest in between. They seem to always be in shape and spar the same each time. I have come across many of them and it makes conditioning them so easy as they teach me how to do it naturally be observing them. If only I know how to get those genes into everyone I raise. I'm glad you have one in the brood pen. That is where he belongs. If ever you find a way to lock in his genes into his offspring, pls let me know. It is something I keep trying to do. Maybe I won't succeed in this lifetime, but at least I would know that I have tried my best which is all I can expect from my warriors as well.

Thanks Mudflop... Actually I have 3 in the pen... but the two are pure asils so they might not be the cup of tea for others... but one thing about them is they always seem to be in shape... one of them, I've changed feed on him (just to try) and his body doesn't go down or change, he will just eat more or eat less... And these two you will never see lunging at the waterer, even at summer they are always composed...

Moisture is very important as everyone knows, so if we can breed fowls which regulates their moisture by themselves hey! It's a bonus right? :D

Chris

[benjoy]

very nice mudflop... :) I'd like to add 2 cents...

there will be some cocks that "condition" themselves very well, they always eat well, dry or wet feeding and only seems to drink "enough". once you feel them, they are what mudflop describes. I got some that are like that, one of em is a brood cock, on the brood pen or on the cord, he always is the same...

my point is, every cock is different, even full brothers, so study them individually, spending more time at observing each fowl will help you in a large way on how to approach them at putting the correct moisture on them... ;)

Chris


I have this type of rooster here abroad, and i would like to bring him in PI but its not possible. The interesting thing about this rooster is the way he take good care of his diet and he mastered controlling his moisture. We keep 14 rooster in a small rented place here in middle east and we conditioned 3 every week and this rooster is not even selected for conditioning but boy oh boy he is the one who show's the hint that hes in tip top shape comes fight day. Hes a two time winner now and hes victims are no joke 1st victim a 3x winner (Unscratched) and 2nd victim was a 9x winner binabae (hennie) (Minor cut)h ope that he continues his winning ways :D

cheers

[Pinolim]

Mudflop....many oldtimers will not believe what you posted as it has always been a dictum of dry....dry....dry....
I do believe you... and that is what I have been doing..... retain some flesh moisture.... their weight AND FEEL are the most important indicators.... it took me 3 years to impart this knowledge to my handler.... the FEEL....... we had so many ups... and DOWNS in our derbies
because of these... considering the remote control Holding on point on fight day...... it was a big challenge.... with our recent results of retaining some flesh moisture.... in 2 very recent 4 cocks derbies we lost only 2 cocks, all 6 won in 1 fly and 1 follow up, unscathe..... one of our entries was a co champion.... one of the 1 loss was a handler's error....we would have been champion again.....

[joel mat]

Here is my take on moisture. Not taking away anything from others comments. All are helpfull.

Gut Moisture and Flesh Moisture are two separate things. Gut moisture is not problem during the feeding or before showing. They can dump our loads or lots of water like droppings with little brown pellet sized turds. It don't matter as the end result is what maatters. However, on flesh moisture if too wet they fall apart quickly when hit and are too sluggish to move around in the pit. They will hit harder, but they can't get their aim accurate. Now if they are too dry they will break way up than every before throw a thousand licks, but none could penetrate as they can't stretch far enough. Watching the droppings is a good indicator, but a conditioner needs to learn how to feel the cocks and each type of family also will have a different feel. It takes practice. When holding the cock try moving the skin slightly below the crop with your fingers on the breast if it moves easily without being able to be lifted too much the moisture may be right. It the skin is very loose and could be lifted they may be too wet. If the skin is hard to move when pushed with your fingers they may be too dry. Another indication of being too dry if the legs don't move backward too far and the leg muscles are too firm. This is how I check my birds, but knowing your cocks and knowing how to upload moisture and then feeding dryier feed and withholding a little water to pull out the moisture from their muscle cavities will make them feel wider and bigger yet the weight stays the same. Every conditioning facility must have a good set of scales as in a normal cock is at least 55% of body weight to be moisture. When a cock is being worked, then rested and fed properly and watered. His system will automatically upload enough moisture for his normal nourishment plus a little more to compensate for the work that took out some of his flesh moisture. This is why we work the cocks in increments so they will continue to upload adequate moisture into the body muscle cavities and into some bones to compensate for the next working session. When we begin the process of working less they will begin to drink less yet still hold the moisture in muscle cavities. When we change into drier feed and withhold water, they will pull the moisture from their muscle cavities to properly digest the drier feed. Watching the droppings is a good indicator of how much water is being utilized in the digestive system. Some obtained from the water provided and some from the muscle cavities. You can tell as the muscle cavity moisture when pulled will widen the cock and if widened too much will have a hollow feel somewhat like a volleyball air up a little too much. They must feel wider and not hollow and not too heavy or what is called leady. In addition the muscles will feel puffy and somewhat springy. This takes practice and once you find it you will never forget it as the fowl will show at least ten times better than a normal spar. In addition they must be coming up on point when walking up the stairs to the pit. On point is when their legs are drawn closer and their tail bone closes a bit from being empty and their guts and body organs drawn upward towards the front of the body. The gizzard then rest under the left leg and can be felt by rubbing slightly the body inside of the left leg. Don't over do it as the gizzard is very sensitive, but rubbing slightly with your finger tips you will feel it if it is in place. It feels as the outside edge of a silver dollar. When you learn to feel for the gizzard, you will know when you are about to let loose a well condition, on point fighting machine. Sorry for so long as these things are hard to explain. Hope this helps.

wellsaid sir..............

[joel mat]

therefore bottomline moisture is the primary factor in conditioning gamefowl.....

[BILLABONG]

When holding the cock try moving the skin slightly below the crop with your fingers on the breast if it moves easily without being able to be lifted too much the moisture may be right..

Mudflop, can u elaborate further pls .....;)

[Mudflop]

It takes practice and easier shown. However, the skin below the crop on the breast of cocks and stags can move easily when you push it slightly with your fingers. The ones with lots of flesh moisture moves easier. The ones with less flesh moisture moves tighter. It takes practice.

[BILLABONG]

It takes practice and easier shown. However, the skin below the crop on the breast of cocks and stags can move easily when you push it slightly with your fingers. The ones with lots of flesh moisture moves easier. The ones with less flesh moisture moves tighter. It takes practice.
when you say below the crop, ito b yung pitso? when pushing which direction forward or sides? very sorry to ask many detailed questions just wanted to more from the master :D

[Mudflop]

You can push the skin both sideways, upward and downward. Yes, you are correct, the breast area below the feed bag. Also check their leg muscles to make sure they are not too tight and the leg can move backward easily. When holding the cock (while on point before showing) hold him facing forward and with your finger tips push in a little on the breast muscles. If they feel puffy as if there are air pockets they are ready. If the breast muscles feels flat and hard then they lost the moisture and will not show as good as they are supposed to. It is a good idea to practice this before sparing. Once you find the right feel you can predict how well they will show.

Hope this helps. Don't worry about questions. I too will ask many questions. One day you may be the one providing the explanations. It is the best way to promote our sport. Good luck.

[cnucum]

Hi Mudflop,

Like to add 2 more cents to my tip before... :D

Anyway, as mudflop said, takes a little practice... With that said, it doesn't mean you need to do that practice on the actual conditioning of fowls to be fought... ;)

Do a "mock-conditioning" do all your conditioning routine to a couple of fowls, try to adjust their moisture in what way you would and check what mudflop is trying to say here... Better right? It will give you flexibility to adjust your conditioning method if things don't work out that well at first (especially for a new method) without sacrificing a few fowls (and money) to know if it's ok...

Chris

[BILLABONG]

You can push the skin both sideways, upward and downward. Yes, you are correct, the breast area below the feed bag. Also check their leg muscles to make sure they are not too tight and the leg can move backward easily. When holding the cock (while on point before showing) hold him facing forward and with your finger tips push in a little on the breast muscles. If they feel puffy as if there are air pockets they are ready. If the breast muscles feels flat and hard then they lost the moisture and will not show as good as they are supposed to. It is a good idea to practice this before sparing. Once you find the right feel you can predict how well they will show.

Hope this helps. Don't worry about questions. I too will ask many questions. One day you may be the one providing the explanations. It is the best way to promote our sport. Good luck.
Thx Mudflop, i know how it feels as im a very keen observer on my stocks hehehe but at that time i dont know what it was i thought it was just fats behind the flesh hehehe now i finally got the right answer woopeee!!!!

[Mudflop]

Yes, pls do as chris stated. Always practice on birds you are conditioning. Always check how they feel before sparing. Don't fight a bird just to check if he is ready. Fight them when you and the cocks you are conditioning are ready and they have the feel of a well conditioned on point cock. You can email me at Mudflop@msn.com if you have any questions. I will help anyone that needs additional information or wants to learn some of extra things I do to get them ready.

[ungas1841]

does the color of the dropping matter?

[Mudflop]

In my opinion, no, not as long as they are healthy going though the conditioning period. After the cock empties out his system the last droppings are from the cecum. The cecum is a blind pouch at the juncture of the small and large intestine that resembles the human appendix. When the waste material is removed from the cecum it is normally wet and sticky, brownish in color and has a higher than normal odor. The next droppings are normally cream looking about the size of a nickle. This is when they should be provided some sort of holding feed as they are getting empty and on point. Don't show one that has passed his point. Try to show them coming up on point or on point.

However, if they are not healthy there are certain signs to look in the droppings and one is the color. If the cock has foamy droppings, he got worms. White liquid pasty like droppings is a sign of salmonella. Blood like droppings is coccidiosis.

[popoi]

bump bump bump bump bump

[benjoy]

In my opinion, no, not as long as they are healthy going though the conditioning period. After the cock empties out his system the last droppings are from the cecum. The cecum is a blind pouch at the juncture of the small and large intestine that resembles the human appendix. When the waste material is removed from the cecum it is normally wet and sticky, brownish in color and has a higher than normal odor. The next droppings are normally cream looking about the size of a nickle. This is when they should be provided some sort of holding feed as they are getting empty and on point. Don't show one that has passed his point. Try to show them coming up on point or on point.

However, if they are not healthy there are certain signs to look in the droppings and one is the color. If the cock has foamy droppings, he got worms. White liquid pasty like droppings is a sign of salmonella. Blood like droppings is coccidiosis.


This is one of the best thread :) thanks for sharing sir MUDFLOP

[bebs espinosa]

In my opinion, no, not as long as they are healthy going though the conditioning period. After the cock empties out his system the last droppings are from the cecum. The cecum is a blind pouch at the juncture of the small and large intestine that resembles the human appendix. When the waste material is removed from the cecum it is normally wet and sticky, brownish in color and has a higher than normal odor. The next droppings are normally cream looking about the size of a nickle. This is when they should be provided some sort of holding feed as they are getting empty and on point. Don't show one that has passed his point. Try to show them coming up on point or on point.

However, if they are not healthy there are certain signs to look in the droppings and one is the color. If the cock has foamy droppings, he got worms. White liquid pasty like droppings is a sign of salmonella. Blood like droppings is coccidiosis.


Very well explained........ thanks for sharing.............;)

[UNDERGROUNDPERF]

for the last time up up up uuuuuuupppppppppp


I am so glad theres brothers on here that take the questions serious so even the experienced still learn from one another!

[Mudflop]

In addition to moisture control being the key to success. A conditioner should also be observative of types of feed being provided throughout the keep and towards the end before showing.

With good strong nourishing food provided, a little moisture and rest, cocks will gain a few ounces in weight. Even the small cocks will gain about a half ounce. This is what is called "Springing". Not all cocks in the keep will spring, but those that do, are your strongest. This is why I previously stated that a conditioner must have a good set of scales. In addition he or she must document the weight of each cock before each feeding throughout the keep or conditioning period.

Always remember that certain conditioning aids being used in the keep may affect the moisture content of the cock. This is why I tend to stick to what is natural. No chemicals, just natural food and vitamins. I also stimulate their adrenal glands for additional production of natural hormones by showing them a pullet each day.

Good Luck

[DON]

If You Hold Your Gamecock Will You Be Able To Feel If It Is Too Much Moisture Or Too Dry? Is It True That They Could Absorb The Moisture In Your Palms If It Is Sweating?

[Mudflop]

Chickens don't perspire like we do. They perspire by breathing out their moisture. By the same token they can bring in the moisture needed from the air they breath inward. This is why some folks brings ice or buckets of water and wet all around the ground area of their holding area of their cocks. Maybe their cocks were fed a higher than normal protein level or water was withheld to allow them to dry up a bit. The idea is to get them empty with legs drawn up and with firery eyes and alert of his surroundings and in the best of health possible. How you achieve this is insignificant, but the failure to do so will be costly.

Continously holding the cocks in your hands will help to dry them out as their body temperature is lower than a normal person thus creating a heat transfer. Letting them get hot before showing will force them to dry up, but also feeding protein feed causes heat and therefore the last feeding should be lower protein and a carbo type feeding. Everyone has a their own method to feed out a show. I can't even begin to imagine how to feed out a show in the P.I. as I have not experienced the weather and humidity there. But if the weather is hot, humid, I would feed more wet food and if it is rainy and cold I would feed dryier and even adding a little protein in the diet. Personnally I would find someone that is continuously showing some exceptional well conditioned cocks and learn from them as they are the experts.

[tjtcokngacademy]

doc...gd day..what is moisture?to gamefowl,what is the importance.,how to maintain moisture?during pointing of a cock...how to obtain moisture? thanks in advance.....
PART 1 MOISTURE MANAGEMENT
Why are we so concerned about moisture? In the first place, to properly condition cocks, we have what we call their “peak”. Meaning to say, they are at their lowest possible weight, but still at their greatest strength. We can effect this through the correct management of moisture and water of our fowls.
Water affects a gamecock in training in two ways:
1) As a supply of moisture needed by the body for normal bodily functions
2) As a temperature regulator
For digestion, water acts on the grains and pellets as a solvent and helps in fermentation. At this point, acids, proteins and carbohydrates are further enhanced before they are passed on to the gizzard for further digestion.

[tjtcokngacademy]

PART 2
From Day 1 to 17 , water is always present. However, on the 18th day, you must be very careful in assessing the condition of each fowl. Ask yourself the following questions:
1) How much water does your cock consume or drink during the day?
One way of doing this is to draw a line inside his drinking pot right on the very first day of the keep to remember the amount of water you put in each morning. By nightfall, take note how much water he consumed.
2) Is the cock eating his usual amount of feeds? How does he respond to carbo-loading?
On the 18th day we have started adjusting the carbohydrates content of the feeds. If the cock has the right amount of moisture in his body he would consume the same amount of feeds he is accustomed to.
3) How are his droppings? Are they watery, dry or moist?
To guage the fowl’s body moisture observe their droppings. By moist we mean the droppings do not splatter when voided but have the right texture and form when dropped. If your cock is having a hard time passing his stool, he must be too dry.
If he is too dry, he won’t cut. If he is too wet, he will be sluggish and won’t cut accurately.
4) How does each cock feel to the touch?
This is something no medical or scientific means can tell you. You’ve got to have the FEEL for properly conditioned cocks and experience would be the best teacher.
5) Finally, how is the weather? Is it a cloudy day, sunny, rainy or hot?
During hot summer months, the cock will certainly drink more water to regain lost moisture and at the same time to regulate his body temperature.
Wind is also a factor because it makes them dry.
If your cocks have been properly conditioned, they will drink less water for the rest of the keep.

[joel mat]

1) How much water does your cock consume or drink during the day?
One way of doing this is to draw a line inside his drinking pot right on the very first day of the keep to remember the amount of water you put in each morning. By nightfall, take note how much water he consumed.
2) Is the cock eating his usual amount of feeds? How does he respond to carbo-loading?
On the 18th day we have started adjusting the carbohydrates content of the feeds. If the cock has the right amount of moisture in his body he would consume the same amount of feeds he is accustomed to.
3) How are his droppings? Are they watery, dry or moist?
To guage the fowl’s body moisture observe their droppings. By moist we mean the droppings do not splatter when voided but have the right texture and form when dropped. If your cock is having a hard time passing his stool, he must be too dry.
If he is too dry, he won’t cut. If he is too wet, he will be sluggish and won’t cut accurately.
4) How does each cock feel to the touch?
This is something no medical or scientific means can tell you. You’ve got to have the FEEL for properly conditioned cocks and experience would be the best teacher.
5) Finally, how is the weather? Is it a cloudy day, sunny, rainy or hot?
During hot summer months, the cock will certainly drink more water to regain lost moisture and at the same time to regulate his body temperature.
Wind is also a factor because it makes them dry.
If your cocks have been properly conditioned, they will drink less water for the rest of the keep.
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thank you very!! much doc tjt in appreciating my thread ,it is my honor that you answer my question on thread like you ,as a prestigeous individual in sabong industry,im very much lucky that you give me a very nice and informative advice that i can use in conditioning a gamefowl:):p:D

[Bigtimber]

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[fernan1552]

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[brown lords]

nice thread,very informative,thanks a lot

[anthony0079]

This is what we use to Monitor Moisture and Temperature inside the cockhouse:)

[kngkhungkernitz]

nice info's keep it up guys

[bugatti veyronn]

very informative thread,helps a lot esp beginner like me.....keep it up....

[Lemon Mafia]

One of the most Informative thread explaining moisture. good help for us beginners.. :D

[romy 3388]

doc...gd day..what is moisture?to gamefowl,what is the importance.,how to maintain moisture?during pointing of a cock...how to obtain moisture? Thanks in advance.....:cool: :cool: :d :) :confused:




good luck po dagdag lang...

[rjtfarm]

Very informative galore.....

[one-hit]

True it is very informative :)

But how much moisture do we really need to maintain come fight time?? Some dry out their chickens, some wants theirs to be on the wet side... In your opinion what would be the moisture level of the roosters for lk?

Thank you.