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bluelegged
January 12th, 2010, 10:47 PM
'WHY IS MOHAMMAD ALI STILL RETAINS HIS ISLAMIC NAME? INSTEAD OF CASSIUS CLAY AGAIN'?

bluelegged
January 12th, 2010, 10:57 PM
WHAT REALLY HAPPENED BETWEEN THE TWO SONS OF ABRAHAM WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY. ISAAC WENT CHRISTIANITY AND ISHMAEL ISLAM.

WHICH ONE IS 'CORRUPT'? THERE SHOULD BE ONE!!!

grey/dom
January 12th, 2010, 10:59 PM
'WHY IS MOHAMMAD ALI STILL RETAINS HIS ISLAMIC NAME? INSTEAD OF CASSIUS CLAY AGAIN'?


hahahahaha..stil you cant get it? it is easy to enter but hard to get out....thats so easy to comprehend...im wondering why you cant? are you that so bright enough?

aw common ..use your coconut shell once in a while mr. blue boy!

grey/dom
January 12th, 2010, 11:06 PM
WHAT REALLY HAPPENED BETWEEN THE TWO SONS OF ABRAHAM WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY. ISAAC WENT CHRISTIANITY AND ISHMAEL ISLAM.

WHICH ONE IS 'CORRUPT'? THERE SHOULD BE ONE!!!

your preaching nuts here....isaac generation didnt all went to christians....some still are jewish...hooooooooooooo! ibagsak kita sa reed....65 grado mo...gahia ug ulo uy...

saturday-jewish
sunday-christians
friday-muslims

old testament-jewish
new testament-christians
non testament/koran-muslims

no christ-jewish
with christ-christians
no christ/with christ/mohammad-muslims

wrigleycanada
January 12th, 2010, 11:12 PM
your preaching nuts here....isaac generation didnt all went to christians....some still are jewish...hooooooooooooo! ibagsak kita sa reed....65 grado mo...gahia ug ulo uy...

saturday-jewish
sunday-christians
friday-muslims

old testament-jewish
new testament-christians
non testament/koran-muslims

no christ-jewish
with christ-christians
no christ/with christ/mohammad-muslims
Papaano masasara ang thread na ito eh nageenjoy ang moderators sa mga post ninyo! I did my part to request kaya bahala na si Mods dyan!

mikki moored
January 12th, 2010, 11:16 PM
hahahahaha..stil you cant get it? it is easy to enter but hard to get out....thats so easy to comprehend...im wondering why you cant? are you that so bright enough?

aw common ..use your coconut shell once in a while mr. blue boy!

yes!!!

common sense is not common here!

bluelegged
January 13th, 2010, 12:14 AM
HAHAHAHA, YEAH COMMON SENSE!!! THE SKY IS SOOOOOO CLEAR NO CLOUDS AT ALL WEHEHEHE, SO DON'T MAKE IT CLOUDY WEHEHEHE, WE'LL MISS THE BLUE SKY:eek:

'I AM THE KING OF THE JEWS'

bluelegged
January 13th, 2010, 12:56 AM
1. eve was created from adam's hip....wow!

2. lightning strikes the 10 commandments on the rocks....wow na wow!

3. a virgin birth....wowwoweeeeee!!!


how about the song of songs, a pornographic verses in the bible? do you guys believed these are words from god? 'i think so eh'!!!

dsgamefowl
January 13th, 2010, 01:13 AM
your preaching nuts here....isaac generation didnt all went to christians....some still are jewish...hooooooooooooo! ibagsak kita sa reed....65 grado mo...gahia ug ulo uy...

saturday-jewish
sunday-christians
friday-muslims

old testament-jewish
new testament-christians
non testament/koran-muslims

no christ-jewish
with christ-christians
no christ/with christ/mohammad-muslims
totally WRONG - this is the correct

old testament-jewishnew testament (by Paul)-christians

LAST testament/koran-muslims


no christ-jewish

with christ-christians IF YOU ARE NOT CIRCUMCISE


LOVES All the Prophets and Messengers of GOD (from Adam to Mohammad) may God's Peace and Blessings be upon them all - We Muslims

dsgamefowl
January 13th, 2010, 01:23 AM
Papaano masasara ang thread na ito eh nageenjoy ang moderators sa mga post ninyo! I did my part to request kaya bahala na si Mods dyan!

Bakit kailangan mo ipasara, ang kailangan mo gawin maghanap ka ng medyo may laman ang UTAK kahit konti lang ayos na yan at pinaka importante marunong sa Biblya

at hindi yun kung tinatanong ko kung anong kulay ng LOBO ang sagot ay HUGIS :D :p

ikaw na maysabi, inamin mo na MARAMING mga baluktot aral sa Biblya, Maraming mga MALI - papano mo i guarantee na yun FAITH o Relihiyon mo ay TAMA

bakit hindi ba posible na yun mga ginamit ng mga verses sa pag doctrina sa Kristyanismo at katoliko ay Mali?



MARK 16 :9-20

ha ha ha hindi na alam sagutin sasabihin pa kulang ang naunang VERSION which is inspired by Holy Spirit kuno

grey/dom
January 13th, 2010, 01:23 AM
1. eve was created from adam's hip....wow!

2. lightning strikes the 10 commandments on the rocks....wow na wow!

3. a virgin birth....wowwoweeeeee!!!


how about the song of songs, a pornographic verses in the bible? do you guys believed these are words from god? 'i think so eh'!!!

itanong mo yan sa kakampi mo daw na si bro ds...nasa koran din yang mga pinagsasabi mo...at naniwala din sila dyan....at magkakampi pa daw kayo.....puwwwwwweeeeeehhh!:D

yong porno...nasa me dala ng utak yan...mga utak porno ang me isip porno!

bakit wala bang ganyan sa science at internet? vagina monologues at etc?

palit ka sa channel 42...mas tama ka doon...

grey/dom
January 13th, 2010, 01:30 AM
[QUOTE=dsgamefowl]


no christ-jewish

with christ-christians IF YOU ARE NOT CIRCUMCISE



ipinagpilitan mo na naman yong LOBO mo at di tuli...saan mo naman natutunan yan?

muslim na ba name mo? o christian pa rin?

Feast of the Circumcision of Christ
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The Feast of the Circumcision of Our Lord is a Christian celebration of the Brit milah (ritual circumcision) of Jesus, eight days (according to the Semitic and southern European calculation of intervals of days)[1] after his birth, the occasion to on which the child was formally given his name, Jesus, a name derived from Hebrew meaning "salvation" or "saviour".[2][3]

The circumcision of Jesus has traditionally been seen, as explained in the popular 14th century work the Golden Legend, as the first time the blood of Christ was shed, and thus the beginning of the process of the redemption of man, and a demonstration that Christ was fully human, and of his obedience to Biblical law.

The feast day appears on 1 January in the liturgical calendar of the Eastern Orthodox Church[4] and of the Eastern Catholic Churches of Byzantine Rite. It also appears in the pre-1960 General Roman Calendar,[5] and is celebrated by some churches of the Anglican Communion and virtually all Lutheran churches.

wag mo nga pakta dito ka ignorantehan mo...

grey/dom
January 13th, 2010, 01:38 AM
Male circumcision, when practiced as a religious rite, is found in the Hebrew Bible, in the Abrahamic covenant, such as Genesis 17, and is therefore practiced by Jews and Muslims and some Christians, those who constitute the Abrahamic religions.

Cultures circumcising males generally do it shortly after birth, during childhood or around puberty as part of a rite of passage. Circumcision is most prevalent in Muslim countries and Israel, and is most prevalent in the Jewish and Muslim faiths, though also common in the United States, the Philippines, South Korea, and Ethiopia, which are predominantly Christian. It is less common in Europe, Latin America, China and India. Hodges argues that in Ancient Greece the foreskin was valued and that Greek and Roman attempts to abolish ritual circumcision were prompted by humanitarian concerns.[1]

Circumcision has a long history, and is mentioned frequently in the Bible. However, the Bible means different things to different religious groups.

For Jews, the Bible consists of the 24 books in Biblical Hebrew (and some Biblical Aramaic) that are known as the Tanakh, specifically the Masoretic Text.
For Protestant Christians, the Bible consists of the 39 books of the Old Testament (following Jerome's Veritas Hebraica) plus the 27 books of the New Testament.
For Catholic and most Orthodox Christians, the Bible includes several other books known as the Deuterocanonical books, the list being slightly different for each group. In addition, some Orthodox Christians have additional New Testament books, such as the Ethiopian Orthodox and Armenian Orthodox, or fewer, such as the Syriac Orthodox Church, see Development of the Christian Biblical canon.

grey/dom
January 13th, 2010, 01:43 AM
Islam
Main article: Khitan (circumcision)

Map published by the United Nations (WHO/UNAIDS) showing percentage of males who have been circumcised, at a country level. Data was provided by MEASURE DHS [2] and other sources. [3]The origin of circumcision in Islam is a matter of religious and scholarly debate. It is mentioned in some hadith, but not in the Qur'an. Some Fiqh scholars state that circumcision is recommended (Sunnah); others that it is obligatory.[9] Some have quoted the hadith to argue that the requirement of circumcision is based on the covenant with Abraham.[10]

The timing of Muslim circumcision varies. Turkish, Balkan, rural Egyptians and Central and South Asian Muslims typically circumcise boys between the ages of six and eleven[citation needed]. Traditionally, Turkish circumcisions are celebrated with sweets and the "Sünnet Düğünü", or "Circumcision Feast/Celebration," and performed rarely with no anesthetic. It is considered a very important celebration in man's life as a passage to a manhood. Many parents of children born in hospitals now choose to have their sons circumcised in the hospital setting, a few days after birth.[11] In Pakistan, Muslims may be circumcised at all ages from the newborn period to adulthood, though the medical profession has encouraged medical circumcisions in the first week after birth to reduce complications: "Circumcision is performed by barbers, medical technicians, quacks and doctors including paediatric surgeon[s] [and as] yet there is no consensus for the best age and method."[12] In Iran, Dr. Paula Drew states that “circumcision, which formerly celebrated the onset of manhood, has for many years now been more customarily performed at the age of 5 or 6 for children born at home, and at two days old for those born in a medical setting.…By puberty, all Muslim Iranian boys must be circumcised if they are to participate fully in religious activities.”[13] Kamyar et al. describe circumcision as an "obligatory custom" and note that it is not necessary for the circumciser to be a Muslim.[14

grey/dom
January 13th, 2010, 01:49 AM
In Christianity
See also: Circumcision controversy in early Christianity
Today, most Christian denominations are neutral about biblical male circumcision, neither requiring it nor forbidding it. The first Church Council in Jerusalem declared that circumcision was not necessary (Acts 15). It is customary among the Coptic, Ethiopian, and Eritrean Orthodox Churches, and also some other African churches [15]. Some Christian churches in South Africa oppose circumcision, viewing it as a pagan ritual, while others, including the Nomiya church in Kenya[15][16], require circumcision for membership. Some participants in focus group discussions in Zambia and Malawi said that Christians should practice circumcision because Jesus was circumcised and the Bible teaches the practice.


.While Jesus' circumcision was recorded as having been performed in accordance with Torah requirements in Luke 2:21, according to the Acts of the Apostles, chapter 15, the leaders of the Christian Church at the Council of Jerusalem rejected circumcision as a requirement for Gentile converts, possibly the first act of differentiation of Early Christianity from its Jewish roots[17], see also List of events in early Christianity. Paul of Tarsus, who called himself Apostle to the Gentiles, attacked the practice, but not consistently, for example in one case he personally circumcised Timothy "because of the Jews" that were in town (Timothy had a Jewish Christian mother but a Greek father Acts 16:1-3).[18] He also appeared to praise its value in Rom 3:1-2. Paul argued that circumcision no longer meant the physical, but a spiritual practice (Rom 2:25-29). And in that sense, he wrote 1 Cor 7:18: "Is any man called being circumcised? let him not become uncircumcised" -- probably a reference to the practice of epispasm [19]. Paul was circumcised when he was "called". He added: "Is any called in uncircumcision? let him not be circumcised.", and went on to argue that circumcision didn't matter: "Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing. Keeping God's commands is what counts." (1 Cor 7:19)

bluelegged
January 13th, 2010, 03:34 AM
dom[/font]]itanong mo yan sa kakampi mo daw na si bro ds...nasa koran din yang mga pinagsasabi mo...at naniwala din sila dyan....at magkakampi pa daw kayo.....puwwwwwweeeeeehhh!:D

yong porno...nasa me dala ng utak yan...mga utak porno ang me isip porno!

bakit wala bang ganyan sa science at internet? vagina monologues at etc?

palit ka sa channel 42...mas tama ka doon...


HAHAHA, BAKIT MO DINADALA ANG USAPAN SA PAGTUTULI, USAPAN DITO ANG CORRUPTION NG BIBLE HINDI TULE, NILILIGAW MO NA NAMAN ANG USAPAN E, HALATANG HALATA NA YAN AH" ...DI NYO MASIKMURA NA ANG SINUSUNOD NYO ISANG CORRUPT NA LIBRO NOH:p

AKALAIN MONG PANIWALAAN NYO ANG '''

1. EVE WAS CREATED FROM ADAM'S HIP?

2. LIGHTNING STRIKES THE 10 COMMANDMENTS ON ROCKS?

3. A VIRGIN BIRTH?


HAHAHAHA....ANO?????


PATI MGA PORNOGRAPHIC VERSES NASA BIBLE.....KAYA SIGURO MERON SA SCIENCE AT INTERNET NA SINASABI MO DAHIL NAKIKITA NILA SA BIBLE WEHEHEHE


ANO BA TALAGA ANG CORRUPT? BIBLE O QURAN???

BAKIT HUMALIK SI PAPA POPE JOHN PAUL I SA QURAN? IBIG BA SABIHIN NITO YUN ANG 'UNCORRUPTED BOOK OF GOD'.......E PARA ANO PA ANG BIBLE KUNG CORRUPT NA NGA.....E ANG MGA JEWS HANGGANG NGAYON NAG AANTAY PA SA ISANG PROPETA E, ANO YAN BAGONG LIBRO NA NAMAN? :eek: :eek: ...NAPANUOD MO BA SA NEWS NUN ITINUMBA SI PAPA NAZI NYO? NAKAKATAWA NOH!

bluelegged
January 13th, 2010, 03:41 AM
BRO DS, BAKIT NGA PALA SA INTERNET AT MGA WRITE-UPS, ANG TINITIRA LAGING ANG BIBLE? PAG MERON NAMANG TUMIRA SA ISLAM, LAGING BOUT VIOLENCE? DIBA SA BIBLE MAY VIOLENCE DIN? YUN 'THE CHOSEN PEOPLE AT THE PROMISED LAND'? VIOLENCE DIN YAN AH DIBA....LAND GRABBING?

bluelegged
January 13th, 2010, 03:53 AM
Around 517 B.C., Daniel the Prophet was given a preview of the last quarter of Jewish and world history right up to the First and Second Comings of the Messiah....He saw four great Empires that would rise and rule the world.
The first vision of the four empires was presented under the type of a huge statue of a man with four different metals corresponding to the four empires (Daniel chapter 2).

(1) Babylon was the head of gold(2)
Medo-Persia was the breast and arms of silver
(3)Greece was the belly and thighs of brass(4)Rome was the legs and toes of iron and clay
These four empires were again presented to him in a vision but this time as wild beasts (Daniel chapter 7):

(1)Babylon as a lion with eagle’s wings(2)Medo-Persia as a bear with 3 ribs in its mouth(3)Greece as a leopard with four heads and four wings(4)Rome as a nondescript wild beast: dreadful, terrible, strong exceeding, iron teeth, nails of brass, crushing, devouring and breaking everything in its path.

bluelegged
January 13th, 2010, 04:03 AM
The last 500 years are an exact duplicate of the last quarter of Jewish history!! The last four empires of prophecy


(1) Spain(2)
France



(3)Great Britain — England, Ireland, Scotland(4)United States


After the Fall of the Papal States in 1870 the Roman Empire in Europe was reduced to nothing. At that time, Emperor Pius IX ordered his minions to move to America and take over that great country.
Taking advantage of the chaos caused by the Great Depression and WW II, the U.S. government was hijacked by an alien force (http://www.reformation.org/alienforce.html). The country became like Imperial Rome, a brutal military dictatorship....



The fourth wild beast made her dreadful debut upon the world stage in 1945 with the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan. During the Korean War, General MacArthur wanted to nuke China.


In 1954, the U.S. was about to nuke the Vietnamese fighting for their independence from the French. Many times during the Cold War, the Soviet Union was threatened with annihilation by nuclear weapons.


Remember Daniel said that the fourth empire would be

"Dreadful and terrible . . . strong exceeding . . . iron teeth . . . crushing, devouring, breaking everything in its path......"(Dan. 7:7).

bluelegged
January 13th, 2010, 04:08 AM
Ever since World War II, the country has been in a state of cold war with the former Soviet Union and hot wars with Korea, Vietnam, Panama, Somalia, Iraq and now the naked aggression against Yugoslavia. God only knows how many were murdered by the U.S. since the end of WW II.
In Vietnam alone, 2 millions Buddhists were murdered by the U.S. military. Millions have perished in Iraq since that war began almost a decade ago.
Just like Imperial Rome, the military has virtual control of all aspects of life - the President, Senate, Congress, Supreme Court, Judiciary, TV, newspapers, radio, Hollywood, schools, universities, etc., etc. Over half of all taxes collected (300 billion dollars) goes to the Pentagon and its budget is GROWING!!
American imperialism is not just confined to the military. The most important is dollar imperialism, followed by economics, big business, all branches of the media — Hollywood, TV, newspapers, radio etc., etc. Even the most basic necessities of life like food and drink are included (McDonalds and Coca-Cola) and the millions killed by the deadly weed called cigarettes.



Just like the 4 ancient empires, the movement of these empires was always westward ho! - like the journey of the sun through the sky....Hitler tried to upset God's map but he ended up a miserable failure!!




The good news is that Daniel saw a stone cut out without hands that smote the image on the feet and ground it to powder. This is the Second Coming of Christ and we can confidently expect that the U.S. will be last brutal world empire before time ends and eternity begins.

"Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out without hands, and it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure" (Daniel 2:45).

bluelegged
January 13th, 2010, 04:13 AM
The Last Judgment:

"I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire. A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened" (Daniel 7:9-10).










'OK LET'S GO BACK TO CIRCUMCISION' :eek: :D

LEO23
January 13th, 2010, 05:01 AM
Bakit kailangan mo ipasara, ang kailangan mo gawin maghanap ka ng medyo may laman ang UTAK kahit konti lang ayos na yan at pinaka importante marunong sa Biblya

at hindi yun kung tinatanong ko kung anong kulay ng LOBO ang sagot ay HUGIS :D :p

ikaw na maysabi, inamin mo na MARAMING mga baluktot aral sa Biblya, Maraming mga MALI - papano mo i guarantee na yun FAITH o Relihiyon mo ay TAMA

bakit hindi ba posible na yun mga ginamit ng mga verses sa pag doctrina sa Kristyanismo at katoliko ay Mali?



MARK 16 :9-20

ha ha ha hindi na alam sagutin sasabihin pa kulang ang naunang VERSION which is inspired by Holy Spirit kuno


ikaw ba brother naniniwala sa bible?

devonloch
January 13th, 2010, 05:04 AM
:D :D :D

http://www.youtube.com/v/K82x1wpNyys&hl=en_GB&fs=1&

dsgamefowl
January 13th, 2010, 08:11 AM
ikaw ba brother naniniwala sa bible?

Oo naman na Hindi salita ng Diyos :)


ganda ng video, salamat bro devonloch

hindi naman ganyan ang tunay na istorya tungkol sa Dajjal

dsgamefowl
January 13th, 2010, 08:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/MdrLjGHPj4A&hl=en_US&fs=1&">


yan REVIEW ninyo ulit isa isa kung sino sino sila mga sikat yan walang pakialam nag muslim dahil nalaman nila ang katotohanan


siguro naman gawin ninyo example sila

Cat Stevens - sikat na singer iniwan mga droga for the sake of Allah(swt)

LEO23
January 13th, 2010, 10:02 AM
Oo naman na Hindi salita ng Diyos :)


ganda ng video, salamat bro devonloch

hindi naman ganyan ang tunay na istorya tungkol sa Dajjal


Sa iyong paniniwala, Ano ba sa iyo ang salita ng diyos?

grey/dom
January 13th, 2010, 11:00 AM
[QUOTE=bluelegged]HAHAHA, BAKIT MO DINADALA ANG USAPAN SA PAGTUTULI, USAPAN DITO ANG CORRUPTION NG BIBLE HINDI TULE, NILILIGAW MO NA NAMAN ANG USAPAN E, HALATANG HALATA NA YAN AH" ...DI NYO MASIKMURA NA ANG SINUSUNOD NYO ISANG CORRUPT NA LIBRO NOH:p

momo ka pala e...di mo sinusundan usapan....

[quote=dsgamefowl]


no christ-jewish

with christ-christians IF YOU ARE NOT CIRCUMCISE

....magbasa ka nga ..di kay puro ka lang ngalngal....gamot mo hwag mo kalimutan blue boy!

bluelegged
January 13th, 2010, 12:53 PM
sino nga ba talaga si 'GOD'?

hehehehe, magkakakilalanan na dito sa tanong na yan kung ano talaga nilalandas natin hahaha:eek:


sigurado ako walang sasagot dyan wehehehe, dahil di nyo alam kung sino talaga hahahaha.


....nga pala, ako di ko rin alam ha kaya wag nyo ko tatanungin tungkol dyan.

dsgamefowl
January 13th, 2010, 02:25 PM
[quote=bluelegged]HAHAHA, BAKIT MO DINADALA ANG USAPAN SA PAGTUTULI, USAPAN DITO ANG CORRUPTION NG BIBLE HINDI TULE, NILILIGAW MO NA NAMAN ANG USAPAN E, HALATANG HALATA NA YAN AH" ...DI NYO MASIKMURA NA ANG SINUSUNOD NYO ISANG CORRUPT NA LIBRO NOH:p

momo ka pala e...di mo sinusundan usapan....

[quote=dsgamefowl]






no christ-jewish

with christ-christians IF YOU ARE NOT CIRCUMCISE

....magbasa ka nga ..di kay puro ka lang ngalngal....gamot mo hwag mo kalimutan blue boy!


Mga Taga-Galacia 5 (Ang Salita ng Diyos)


Mga Taga-Galacia 5

Kalayaan kay Cristo

1Tayo ay pinalaya ni Cristo. Magpakatatag kayo sa kalayaang ito at huwag na ninyong hayaang ang sinuman na dalhin kayong muli sa pamatok ng pagkaalipin.
2Narito, akong si Pablo ang nagsasabi sa inyo: Kapag kayo ay nagpailalaim sa pagtutuli, si Cristo ay walang pakinabang para sa inyo. 3Muli akong nagpapatotoo sa bawat lalaking nasa ilalim ng pagtutuli, siya ay may pananagutang tuparin ang buong kautusan. 4Kung kayo ay pinapaging-matuwid ng kautusan, kayo ay napahiwalay na kay Cristo. Nahulog na kayo mula sa biyaya. 5Sapagkat sa pamamagitan ng Espiritu, ayon sa pananampalataya, tayo ay may pananabik na naghihintay sa pag-asa ng katuwiran. 6Ito ay sapagkat, kay Cristo Jesus, ang pagiging nasa pagtutuli at ang hindi pagiging nasa pagtutuli ay walang halaga. Subalit ang may kahalagahan ay ang pananampalatayang gumagawa sa pamamagitan ng pag-ibig.


sabi mo with Christ - mga Kristyano "TAMA" po kayo sabi ko kailangan "SUPOT" ka kasi yan ang sabi OH! BASA


Bro LEO, ayan basa ka muna kung kaninong salita yan siguro naman kilala mo siya :D :p

gusto mo pakilala ko sa iyo si THEOPILUS - ha ha ha

ang ibang mga verses sa Biblya mga LOVE LETTERS at PERSONAL na sulat mga yan pinag dugtong dugtong konting dagdag ayon "Biblya na!"

halimbawa na lang yan song of songs pag yan isulat mo sa Girlfriend mo sigurado sasagutin ka kaagad niyan

"ang mga dibdib mo parang mga batang USA" :eek: ngaaaa
talo pa yun german na bisita ni Kuya - ha ha ha

grey/dom
January 13th, 2010, 06:21 PM
[QUOTE=dsgamefowl]





1Tayo ay pinalaya ni Cristo. Magpakatatag kayo sa kalayaang ito at huwag na ninyong hayaang ang sinuman na dalhin kayong muli sa pamatok ng pagkaalipin.
2Narito, akong si Pablo ang nagsasabi sa inyo: Kapag kayo ay nagpailalaim sa pagtutuli, si Cristo ay walang pakinabang para sa inyo. 3Muli akong nagpapatotoo sa bawat lalaking nasa ilalim ng pagtutuli, siya ay may pananagutang tuparin ang buong kautusan. 4Kung kayo ay pinapaging-matuwid ng kautusan, kayo ay napahiwalay na kay Cristo. Nahulog na kayo mula sa biyaya. 5Sapagkat sa pamamagitan ng Espiritu, ayon sa pananampalataya, tayo ay may pananabik na naghihintay sa pag-asa ng katuwiran. 6Ito ay sapagkat, kay Cristo Jesus, ang pagiging nasa pagtutuli at ang hindi pagiging nasa pagtutuli ay walang halaga. Subalit ang may kahalagahan ay ang pananampalatayang gumagawa sa pamamagitan ng pag-ibig.
QUOTE]

eto pa isang momo.....e ano magawa mo kung di namin sinunod yan? laws are only guide...talagang hirap kayo makaintindi ano? pati aral namin...pinakailaman nyo...yong mga bombero nyo...wala kayong pakialam...pati pagtutuli...kayo pang mga di kristyano ang manghimasok ano gawin namin? hahahahahaha...pati bibliya tinutuligsa...pati si Hesus...tapos...bilib daw sila...wawa naman kayo...wala kayong sariling utak...nanghihiram lang kayo...

di mo yata kilala kami bro ds...kristyano po kami...di paulino..sinusunod namin si kristo...di si paulo...mahirap ba talagang intindihin yan? kaya ka pala tumiwalag di ka nakakaintindi sa mga aral ni kristo...maraming nakasulat sa bibliya na di namin sinusunod...ang buhay po ni Hesus at mga salita at ehemplo niya ang aming sinusunod...

mikki moored
January 13th, 2010, 10:06 PM
sino nga ba talaga si 'GOD'?

hehehehe, magkakakilalanan na dito sa tanong na yan kung ano talaga nilalandas natin hahaha:eek:


sigurado ako walang sasagot dyan wehehehe, dahil di nyo alam kung sino talaga hahahaha.


....nga pala, ako di ko rin alam ha kaya wag nyo ko tatanungin tungkol dyan.

malalaman mo kung sino si God kung mararamdaman mo na ang sakit sa buhay mo. hindi ka mapapatawad sa mga ginawa mo. sige ka! ituloy mo lang yan.

mikki moored
January 13th, 2010, 10:11 PM
DSGamefoul,

bakit ba ang laki ng galit mo sa faith ng katoliko? may nagawa ba ang simbahan sa 'yo na hindi maganda?

grey/dom
January 13th, 2010, 10:19 PM
sino nga ba talaga si 'GOD'?

hehehehe, magkakakilalanan na dito sa tanong na yan kung ano talaga nilalandas natin hahaha:eek:


sigurado ako walang sasagot dyan wehehehe, dahil di nyo alam kung sino talaga hahahaha.


....nga pala, ako di ko rin alam ha kaya wag nyo ko tatanungin tungkol dyan.

di ka tao kung di mo kilala ang DIYOS! even animals know who their GOD is...nakakita ka na ng aso pumasok sa simbahan namin? pinapasok yan...gusto mong pumasok?

nakakita ka na ng aso pumasok sa mosque? di pinapasok yan...kasi..kasi...kasi..hehehehe

ask na lang yong bro ds mo...

wrigleycanada
January 13th, 2010, 10:27 PM
Arguments for the existence of God!

* The cosmological argument argues that there was a "first cause", or "prime mover" who is identified as God. It starts with a claim about the world, like its containing entities or motion.
* The teleological argument argues that the universe's order and complexity are best explained by reference to a creator God. It starts with a rather more complicated claim about the world, i.e. that it exhibits order and design. This argument has two versions: One based on the analogy of design and designer, the other arguing that goals can only occur in minds.
* The ontological argument is based on arguments about a "being greater than which cannot be conceived". It starts simply with a concept of God. St. Anselm of Canterbury and Alvin Plantinga formulate this argument to show that if it is logically possible for God (a necessary being) to exist, then God exists.[16]
* The argument from degree, a version of the ontological argument posited by Aquinas, states that there must exist a being which possesses all properties to the maximum possible degree.
* Arguments that a non-physical quality observed in the universe is of fundamental importance and not an epiphenomenon, such as Morality (Argument from morality), Beauty (Argument from beauty), Love (Argument from love), or religious experience (Argument from religious experience), are arguments for theism as against materialism.
* The anthropic argument suggests that basic facts, such as our existence, are best explained by the existence of God.
* The moral argument argues that the existence of objective morality depends on the existence of God.
* The transcendental argument suggests that logic, science, ethics, and other things we take seriously do not make sense in the absence of God, and that atheistic arguments must ultimately refute themselves if pressed with rigorous consistency.
* The will to believe doctrine was pragmatist philosopher William James' attempt to prove God by showing that the adoption of theism as a hypothesis "works" in a believer's life. This doctrine depended heavily on James' pragmatic theory of truth where beliefs are proven by how they work when adopted rather than by proofs before they are believed (a form of the hypothetico-deductive method).

wrigleycanada
January 13th, 2010, 10:32 PM
* The Argument from Reason holds that if, as thoroughgoing naturalism entails, all of our thoughts are the effect of a physical cause, then we have no reason for assuming that they are also the consequent of a reasonable ground. Knowledge, however, is apprehended by reasoning from ground to consequent. Therefore, if naturalism were true, there would be no way of knowing it—or anything else not the direct result of a physical cause—and we could not even suppose it, except by a fluke.
* Frank J. Tipler's Omega Point Theory holds that the universe is bound to ultimately end in a Big Crunch, which will create a gravitational singularity that can be exploited to obtain practically infinite computational capacity; Tipler equates this final singularity and its state of infinite information capacity to God.

Arguments from historical events or personages

* Judaism asserts that God intervened in key specific moments in history, especially at the Exodus and the giving of the Ten Commandments in front of all the tribes of Israel, positing an argument from empirical evidence stemming from sheer number of witnesses, thus demonstrating His existence.
* The argument from the Resurrection of Jesus. This asserts that there is sufficient historical evidence for Jesus's resurrection to support his claim to be the son of God and indicates, a fortiori, God's existence.[17] This is one of several arguments known as the Christological argument.
* Islam asserts that the revelation of the miraculous Quran vindicates its divine authorship, and thus the existence of a God.
* The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, also known as Mormonism, similarly asserts that the miraculous appearance of God, Jesus Christ and angels to Joseph Smith and others and subsequent finding and translation of the Book of Mormon establishes the existence of God.

wrigleycanada
January 13th, 2010, 10:38 PM
Argument from fulfilled Bible prophecy

Isaiah argues that only the God of the Bible can foretell specific future entities and events without fail when he accredits God saying, "Present your case," says the LORD. "Set forth your arguments, … tell us what the former things were, so that we may consider them and know their final outcome. Or declare to us the things to come, tell us what the future holds, so we may know that you are gods.”[18] "The LORD says … I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God. Who then is like me? … Let him declare and lay out before me what has happened since I established my ancient people, and what is yet to come—yes, let him foretell what will come.”[19]

The Bible declares that “all scripture is inspired by God”[20] and He “does nothing without revealing his plan to his servants the prophets.” [21] The prophecies of Daniel (chapters 2, 7, 8, 9, and 11) and Revelation purport to tell a select history of the world and God’s plan for it from the 6th Century BC to the establishment of the “kingdom of God” after the end of the world. If subsequent history fulfills every point of the prophecies up to the present then, as Isaiah states, "we may know that you are God," else not. This does not say what kind of God could do this, but only that there would be a God. So the argument asks, "Have the prophecies been fulfilled?"

Inductive arguments

Inductive arguments argue their conclusions through inductive reasoning.

* Another class of philosophers asserts that the proofs for the existence of God present a fairly large probability though not absolute certainty. A number of obscure points, they say, always remain; an act of faith is required to dismiss these difficulties. This view is maintained, among others, by the Scottish statesman Arthur Balfour in his book The Foundations of Belief (1895). The opinions set forth in this work were adopted in France by Ferdinand Brunetière, the editor of the Revue des deux Mondes. Many orthodox Protestants express themselves in the same manner, as, for instance, Dr. E. Dennert, President of the Kepler Society, in his work Ist Gott tot?.[22]

Arguments from testimony

Arguments from testimony rely on the testimony or experience of certain witnesses, possibly embodying the propositions of a specific revealed religion. Swinburne argues that it is a principle of rationality that one should accept testimony unless there are strong reasons for not doing so.[23]

wrigleycanada
January 13th, 2010, 10:45 PM
* The witness argument gives credibility to personal witnesses, contemporary and throughout the ages. A variation of this is the argument from miracles which relies on testimony of supernatural events to establish the existence of God.
* The majority argument argues that the theism of people throughout most of recorded history and in many different places provides prima facie demonstration of God's existence.
Arguments grounded in personal experience

* The Scottish School of Common Sense led by Thomas Reid taught that the fact of the existence of God is accepted by us without knowledge of reasons but simply by a natural impulse. That God exists, this school said, is one of the chief metaphysical principles that we accept not because they are evident in themselves or because they can be proved, but because common sense obliges us to accept them.
* The Argument from a Proper Basis argues that belief in God is "properly basic"; that it is similar to statements like "I see a chair" or "I feel pain". Such beliefs are non-falsifiable and, thus, neither provable nor disprovable; they concern perceptual beliefs or indisputable mental states.
* In Germany, the School of Friedrich Heinrich Jacobi taught that our reason is able to perceive the suprasensible. Jacobi distinguished three faculties: sense, reason, and understanding. Just as sense has immediate perception of the material so has reason immediate perception of the immaterial, while the understanding brings these perceptions to our consciousness and unites them to one another.[24] God's existence, then, cannot be proven (Jacobi, like Immanuel Kant, rejected the absolute value of the principle of causality), it must be felt by the mind.
* In Emile, Jean-Jacques Rousseau asserted that when our understanding ponders over the existence of God it encounters nothing but contradictions; the impulses of our hearts, however, are of more value than the understanding, and these proclaim clearly to us the truths of natural religion, namely, the existence of God and the immortality of the soul.

wrigleycanada
January 13th, 2010, 10:51 PM
* The same theory was advocated in Germany by Friedrich Schleiermacher, who assumed an inner religious sense by means of which we feel religious truths. According to Schleiermacher, religion consists solely in this inner perception, and dogmatic doctrines are inessential.[25]
* Many modern Protestant theologians follow in Schleiermacher's footsteps, and teach that the existence of God cannot be demonstrated; certainty as to this truth is only furnished us by inner experience, feeling, and perception.
* Modernist Christianity also denies the demonstrability of the existence of God. According to them we can only know something of God by means of the vital immanence, that is, under favorable circumstances the need of the divine dormant in our subconsciousness becomes conscious and arouses that religious feeling or experience in which God reveals himself to us. In condemnation of this view the oath against modernism formulated by Pius X says: "Deum ... naturali rationis lumine per ea quae facta sunt, hoc est per visibilia creationis opera, tanquam causam per effectus certo cognosci adeoque demostrari etiam posse, profiteor." ("I declare that by the natural light of reason, God can be certainly known and therefore his existence demonstrated through the things that are made, i.e., through the visible works of creation, as the cause is known through its effects.")
* Pascal's Wager (or Pascal's Gambit) is a suggestion posed by the French philosopher Blaise Pascal that even though the existence of God cannot be determined through reason, a person should "wager" as though God exists, because so living has everything to gain, and nothing to lose.

dsgamefowl
January 13th, 2010, 10:54 PM
DSGamefoul,

bakit ba ang laki ng galit mo sa faith ng katoliko? may nagawa ba ang simbahan sa 'yo na hindi maganda?

bai mikki, hindi naman galit, pinaguusapan lang natin dito

kahit saan angle mong tingnan mali talaga :) PEACE tayo dito bro, discussion lang tayo basta with proof hindi pwede hearsay

" AYAW ko ng mga manloloko " :)



Bro Wrigs ayan kananaman baka post ko nanaman dito tungkol kay THEOPILUS hindi mo nanaman masagot, he he he

wrigleycanada
January 14th, 2010, 12:30 AM
bai mikki, hindi naman galit, pinaguusapan lang natin dito

kahit saan angle mong tingnan mali talaga :) PEACE tayo dito bro, discussion lang tayo basta with proof hindi pwede hearsay

" AYAW ko ng mga manloloko " :)



Bro Wrigs ayan kananaman baka post ko nanaman dito tungkol kay THEOPILUS hindi mo nanaman masagot, he he he
nagrereklamo nga Bai ang mga atheist eh.... sabi nila lahat daw ng holidays ay para sa mga naniniwala sa Diyos........ Apila sila sa supreme court at binigyan na sila ngayon ng holiday na exclusive para sa mga Atheist...... April 1.... April Foolds day! Nyahahahahahaha

grey/dom
January 14th, 2010, 12:33 AM
bai mikki, hindi naman galit, pinaguusapan lang natin dito

kahit saan angle mong tingnan mali talaga :) PEACE tayo dito bro, discussion lang tayo basta with proof hindi pwede hearsay

" AYAW ko ng mga manloloko " :)



Bro Wrigs ayan kananaman baka post ko nanaman dito tungkol kay THEOPILUS hindi mo nanaman masagot, he he he

saan naman yong proof mo bro...na magkalahi si mohammad at ismael? at proof mo na sambahin ang mecca at di ang jerusalem? pakita mo nga...



ayaw rin namin ang hearsay...at proof mo din na anghel ang kumausap ni mohammad...

im cooking pork ribs soup....sarap para sa winter season....

bluelegged
January 14th, 2010, 02:55 AM
TODAY, AMONG THE 3 ABRAHAMIC RELIGIONS, CHRISTIANITY, JUDAISM, AND ISLAM, ISLAM IS THE FAST GROWING RELIGION WORLDWIDE.


The term "Abrahamic religion" is derived from a term of Islamic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam) origin, Millat Ibrahim (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millat_Ibrahim),although to Muslims, Islam is seen as truly reflecting the "Faith of Abraham". It thus refers to the claim of Muslims to be following the pure orthodox form of monotheism practiced by Abraham. There is also a traditional claim of relationship of Muhammed to Abraham (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham) through his son Ishmael (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael); Arabs from the Mecca region trace their lineage to Abraham via Ishmael. Although the Qur'an does not name the child whom Abraham was about to sacrifice, Muslims believe it was Ishmael, while Jews and Christians accept the biblical view that it was Isaac. Christians refer to Abraham as a "father in faith." It has been suggested that the phrase may mean that all three religions come from one spiritual source.


'IS HE WHO CREATED 'GOD' AND ITS SCRIPTURES......GOD?

bluelegged
January 14th, 2010, 03:08 AM
For Jews


For Jews, Abraham is, through Isaac and Jacob, the founding patriarch of the Children of Israel. God promised Abraham: "I will make of you a great nation, and I will bless you." With Abraham, God entered into "an everlasting covenant throughout the ages to be God to you and to your offspring to come."
Abraham is primarily a revered ancestor or patriarch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriarch_(Bible)) (referred to as "Our Father Abraham") to whom God made several promises: chiefly, that he would have numberless descendants, who would receive the land of Canaan (the "Promised Land (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Promised_Land).") Somewhat less divisively, according to Jewish tradition, Abraham was the first post-Flood (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_flood) prophet to reject idolatry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idolatry) through rational analysis, although Shem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shem) and Eber (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eber) carried on the tradition from Noah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noah).
Abraham not only symbolically appears as a fundamental figure, but is recognised to have observed the tenets of the Torah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torah) before it was given to Moses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moses). Modern scholars do not accept that the K'tav Ivri (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleo-Hebrew_alphabet) is named after Abraham (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham). The early Midrashic sources explicitly state that the laws of Torah (Passover (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passover)) were observed by the Patriarchs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriarchs_(Bible)) long before Sinai (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Mount_Sinai), and in one case with a simultaneous explicit example for chronological calculations:

bluelegged
January 14th, 2010, 03:14 AM
For Christians



Christians view Abraham as an important exemplar of faith, and a spiritual, as well as physical, ancestor of Jesus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus)—a Jew considered the Son of God (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Son_of_God) through whom God promised to bless all the families of the earth. For Christians, Abraham is a spiritual forebear rather than a direct ancestor, as defined by Paul the Apostle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_the_Apostle), with the Abrahamic Covenant "reinterpreted so as to be defined by faith in Christ rather than biological descent"; see also New Covenant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Covenant). In Christian belief, Abraham is a role model (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role_model) of faith, and his obedience to God by offering Isaac (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binding_of_Isaac) is seen as a foreshadowing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreshadowing) of God's offering of his son Jesus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus).
The tendency of Christian commentators to interpret God's promises to Abraham as applying to Christianity rather than Judaism, whose adherents rejected Jesus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rejection_of_Jesus), is derived from Paul's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_the_Apostle) interpretation of all descendants who believe in God as being spiritual descendants of Abraham. However, in both cases he refers to these spiritual descendants as the "sons of God (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sons_of_God)" rather than "children of Abraham".

bluelegged
January 14th, 2010, 03:21 AM
For Muslims




Although Muslims view both Jesus and Moses as messengers of God, there are several reasons that make Abraham much more significant in their religion. For Muslims, Abraham is a prophet, the "Friend of God" who stands in the line from Noah to Muhammad, to whom Allah gave revelations,Template:Cite Quran (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Cite_Quran&action=edit&redlink=1), who "raised the foundations of the House" (i.e., the Ka'aba) with his first son, Isma'il. Ibrahim (Abraham (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham)) is the first in a genealogy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genealogy) for Muhammad. Islam considers Abraham to be the "first Muslim" (Surah 3)—the first monotheist in a world where monotheism was lost. He is also referred to in Islam as ابونا ابرهيم or "Our Father Abraham", as well as Ibrahim al-Hanif (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanif) or "Abraham the Monotheist". Islam holds that it was Ishmael, (Isma'il, Muhammad's ancestor) rather than Isaac, whom Ibrahim was instructed to sacrifice. In addition to this spiritual lineage, the northern Adnani (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adnan) Arab tribes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribes_of_Arabia) trace their lineage to Isma'il, and thus to Abraham.
Muslims see Abraham as one of the most important of the many prophets sent by God. Thus he represents, for some, a common focal point whom they seek to emphasize by means of this terminology.

bluelegged
January 14th, 2010, 04:08 AM
Bahá'í Faith


In Bahá'í (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bah%C3%A1%27%C3%AD_Faith) belief, creation does not have a beginning nor end, and instead views the eschatology of other religions as being symbolic. In Bahá'í belief, human time is marked by a series of progressive revelations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_revelation_(Bah%C3%A1%27%C3%AD)) where successive messengers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifestation_of_God) or prophets come from God. The coming of these messengers is seen as a day of judgement to the adherents of the previous religion, who may choose to accept the new messenger and enter the 'heaven' of belief, or denounce the new messenger and enter the 'hell' of denial. In this view the terms heaven and hell are seen as symbolic terms for the person's spiritual progress and their nearness to or distance from God. In Bahá'í belief, the coming of Bahá'u'lláh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bah%C3%A1%27u%27ll%C3%A1h), the founder of the Bahá'í Faith, signals the fulfilment of previous eschatological expectations of Islam (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam), Christianity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity) and other major religions.

dsgamefowl
January 14th, 2010, 06:02 AM
saan naman yong proof mo bro...na magkalahi si mohammad at ismael? at proof mo na sambahin ang mecca at di ang jerusalem? pakita mo nga...



ayaw rin namin ang hearsay...at proof mo din na anghel ang kumausap ni mohammad...

im cooking pork ribs soup....sarap para sa winter season....

ayos yan bro masarap yan, tuwang tuwa nanaman si Doc niyan- huwag kalimutan ang CALSIBLOC :D :p


balik ka mga 4-5 pages andoon hanapin mo sa GOGOOL ang "KEDAR TRIBES" hanapin mo na rin sa biblya nakasulat yan, pati ba naman dito spoon feed pa rin

ha ha ha

sambahin ang Mecca ?, ano yan bai murag kataw'anan lang ka da

ito sabi ni Bro Grey/Dom

di mo yata kilala kami bro ds...kristyano po kami...di paulino..sinusunod namin si kristo...di si paulo...mahirap ba talagang intindihin yan? kaya ka pala tumiwalag di ka nakakaintindi sa mga aral ni kristo...maraming nakasulat sa bibliya na di namin sinusunod( isang pagpapatunay ni Bro Grey/Dom na hindi nga salita ng Diyos ang Biblya)...ang buhay po ni Hesus at mga salita at ehemplo niya ang aming sinusunod...

tanong ko sa iyo ha seryoso ito: kung totoo sabi mo na sinusunod mo ang ehemplo at mga salita at aral

ano po ba ang sinusunod ninyo? :)

Bro GD, alamin mo muna ha kung papano manalangin si Jesus(pbuh)

alamin mo rin kung ilan araw at gabi siya nag ayuno

ito lang muna 2 kasi ito yun mga lagi niyang ginagawa nun buhay pa siya

dsgamefowl
January 14th, 2010, 06:08 AM
nagrereklamo nga Bai ang mga atheist eh.... sabi nila lahat daw ng holidays ay para sa mga naniniwala sa Diyos........ Apila sila sa supreme court at binigyan na sila ngayon ng holiday na exclusive para sa mga Atheist...... April 1.... April Foolds day! Nyahahahahahaha

ha ha ha ha

yun Thanks giving bakit tuwing Decemeber lang dapat araw araw yan :)

wala akong galit kahit sa anong Relihiyon, in fact maraming akong kaibigan dito na hindi man muslim at hindi importante sa akin kung ano man relihiyon niya as long totoo siya

kahit ask ninyo sa thread namin kung nag open ako sa kanila regarding islam, puro chicken talk lang po :D

" NO COMPULSION IN RELIGION "


discussion lang po, kaso nagiging personal kung umiinit na ang usapin , ha ha ha

dsgamefowl
January 14th, 2010, 06:25 AM
tingnan niyo, unti unti nanaman umiiwas sa tanong ko napaka simple

ANONG UNANG VERSION NG BIBLYA?, ilan po bang libro ito meron kompara sa mga Christian Version of the Bible


ito bro GD

“For every nation there is a direction to which they face (in their prayers). So hasten towards all that is good. Wheresoever you may be, God will bring you together (on the Day of Resurrection). Truly, God is Able to do all things. And from wheresoever you start forth (for prayers), turn your face in the direction of Al-Masjid-al-Haram (at Mecca), that is indeed the truth from your Lord. And God is not unaware of what you do.” (Quran 2:148-149)

eto pa

“Thus, we have made you real believers in Islamic Monotheism, true followers of Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) and his legal ways, a just nation, witnesses over mankind and the Messenger a witness over you. And We made the Qibla (prayer direction towards Jerusalem) which you used to face, only to test those who followed the Messenger from those who would turn on their heels (i.e. disobey the Messenger). Indeed, it was great (heavy) except for those whom God guided. And God would never make your prayers to be lost (i.e. your prayers offered towards Jerusalem). Truly, God is full of kindness, the Most Merciful towards humankind.”
“Verily! We have seen the turning of your (Muhammad) face towards the heaven. Surely, We shall turn you to a Qibla (prayer direction) that shall please you, so turn your face in the direction of Al-Masjid- al-Haram (at Mecca). And wheresoever you people are, turn your faces (in prayer) in that direction...” (Quran 2:143-144)

marami pa po

yan ang tunay na sumusunod

1 BILLION of MUSLIMS

Prays in ONE DIRECTION


alam niyo po ba kung sino nag build sa Al Aqsa Mosque ?

i GOGOOL na sad !, he he he



TO THE ONE TRUE GOD

grey/dom
January 14th, 2010, 06:36 AM
BASA BRO...BASA..

Mecca: 1st - 6th century AD

The town of Mecca, in a rocky valley with no agricultural resources, develops into a place of considerable prosperity. There are two good reasons. It is a trading post on the caravan route from the Indian Ocean to the Mediterranean. And it is Arabia's most important place of pilgrimage.

During the centuries before Islam, large numbers of pilgrims arrive in Mecca to perform a ritual act of walking seven times round a small square building known as the Kaaba (Arabic for 'cube'). The building is full of idols, which are the objects of worship. It also includes a sacred black stone, possibly in origin a meteorite.









Mecca and Muhammad: AD c.570 - 622

A child, Muhammad, is born in a merchant family in Mecca. His clan is prosperous and influential, but his father dies before he is born and his mother dies when the boy is only six.

Entrusted to a Bedouin nurse, Muhammad spends much of his childhood among nomads, accompanying the caravans on Arabia's main trade route through Mecca.










It is on Mount Hira, according to tradition, that the archangel Gabriel appears to Muhammad. Muhammad describes later how he seemed to be grasped by the throat by a luminous being, who commanded him to repeat the words of God.

From about 613 Muhammad preaches in Mecca the message which he has received.








When Muhammad reveals his message from God, he meets increasing hostility from the traders of Mecca. He is preaching one God. They are making their living from a profusion of idols.

Eventually, in 622, there is a plot to assassinate him. He escapes with his followers to the town of Medina, about 300 kilometres to the north.

grey/dom
January 14th, 2010, 06:41 AM
The Muslims and Mecca: AD 624-630

Relations with Mecca deteriorate to the point of pitched battles between the two sides, with Muhammad leading his troops in the field. But in the end it is his diplomacy which wins the day.

He persuades the Meccans to allow his followers back into the city, in 629, to make a pilgrimage to the Kaaba and the Black Stone.










On this first Muslim pilgrimage to Mecca, Muhammad's followers impress the local citizens both by their show of strength and by their self-control, departing peacefully after the agreed three days. But the following year the Meccans break a truce, provoking the Muslims to march on the city.

They take Mecca almost without resistance. The inhabitants accept Islam. And Muhammad sweeps the idols out of the Kaaba, leaving only the sacred Black Stone.








An important element in Mecca's peaceful acceptance of the change has been Muhammad's promise that pilgrimage to the Kaaba will remain a central feature of the new religion.

So Mecca becomes, as it has remained ever since, the holy city of Islam. And Muslim tradition locates in Mecca many of the events described first in the biblical book of Genesis.








The preaching of Muhammad and the founding of Islam turn Mecca from a local place of pilgrimage to one of world-wide significance - though only Muslims are allowed to enter the city. Where pagan pilgrims once walked seven times round a Kaaba filled with idols, Muslims now walk seven times round the same Kaaba - but empty now, and sacred to the one God ('Allah' is God in Arabic).

The Kaaba is not only the central shrine of Islam, and the focus of every pilgrimage to Mecca. It has also been, since Muhammad's time, the place towards which all Muslims turn when praying.

fastest growing? baka fastest dying...sino mas fast dyan?:D

dsgamefowl
January 14th, 2010, 06:53 AM
The Muslims and Mecca: AD 624-630

Relations with Mecca deteriorate to the point of pitched battles between the two sides, with Muhammad leading his troops in the field. But in the end it is his diplomacy which wins the day.

He persuades the Meccans to allow his followers back into the city, in 629, to make a pilgrimage to the Kaaba and the Black Stone.










On this first Muslim pilgrimage to Mecca, Muhammad's followers impress the local citizens both by their show of strength and by their self-control, departing peacefully after the agreed three days. But the following year the Meccans break a truce, provoking the Muslims to march on the city.

They take Mecca almost without resistance. The inhabitants accept Islam. And Muhammad sweeps the idols out of the Kaaba, leaving only the sacred Black Stone.








An important element in Mecca's peaceful acceptance of the change has been Muhammad's promise that pilgrimage to the Kaaba will remain a central feature of the new religion.

So Mecca becomes, as it has remained ever since, the holy city of Islam. And Muslim tradition locates in Mecca many of the events described first in the biblical book of Genesis.








The preaching of Muhammad and the founding of Islam turn Mecca from a local place of pilgrimage to one of world-wide significance - though only Muslims are allowed to enter the city. Where pagan pilgrims once walked seven times round a Kaaba filled with idols, Muslims now walk seven times round the same Kaaba - but empty now, and sacred to the one God ('Allah' is God in Arabic).

The Kaaba is not only the central shrine of Islam, and the focus of every pilgrimage to Mecca. It has also been, since Muhammad's time, the place towards which all Muslims turn when praying.

fastest growing? baka fastest dying...sino mas fast dyan?:D

ha ha ha ,katawa tawa nga salamat sa pag post mo na maikling istorya tungkol sa Mecca

sabi nga ni Bro Mikki, seek more knowledge

grey/dom
January 14th, 2010, 06:55 AM
ilan ba ang anghel nyo sa langit? isa lang ba? si gabriel lang ba? di ka ba nagtataka bro ds?meron bang sinabi sa koran kung anong mga pangalan ng ibang anghel? o si gabriel lang talaga ang ginamit upang me anghel daw...yong nakikinig sya sa anghel...di ba yan paglabag sa kautusan...ni allah....na wala ng iba pang diyos kundi siya lang?

grey/dom
January 14th, 2010, 07:00 AM
ha ha ha ,katawa tawa nga salamat sa pag post mo na maikling istorya tungkol sa Mecca

sabi nga ni Bro Mikki, seek more knowledge

so alam mo na ano meron sa mecca? ang black stone...di ba yan labag sa relihiyon nyo? sinamba nyo ang black stone....di mo alam no na me black stone sa mecca?

naku...marami yata naloko...wala ka talagang nalaman....wawa ka naman...mas marunong ka pa sa bibliya...di ka yata muslim...born again ka yata e....wehehehehe!

dsgamefowl
January 14th, 2010, 07:09 AM
ilan ba ang anghel nyo sa langit? isa lang ba? si gabriel lang ba? di ka ba nagtataka bro ds?meron bang sinabi sa koran kung anong mga pangalan ng ibang anghel? o si gabriel lang talaga ang ginamit upang me anghel daw...yong nakikinig sya sa anghel...di ba yan paglabag sa kautusan...ni allah....na wala ng iba pang diyos kundi siya lang?

bakit umiiwas ka sa tanong ko :D :p

kakain ka ng baboy?, kaya pala sabi nga you are what you eat

pinagbawal yan sa biblya ah! at marming beses nagpalabas si Jesus(pbuh) ng mga demonyo at ipinasok sa katawan ng baboy


ha ha ha bro GD, kailangan mag research ka muna :)

We Believe in the Angels

nakalimutan mo na ata, at yun mga Angels ginagalang namin hindi tulad sa inyo walang respeto



ang pangalan ng Angel, ginamit sa pangalan ng Alak

dsgamefowl
January 14th, 2010, 07:17 AM
so alam mo na ano meron sa mecca? ang black stone...di ba yan labag sa relihiyon nyo? sinamba nyo ang black stone....di mo alam no na me black stone sa mecca?

naku...marami yata naloko...wala ka talagang nalaman....wawa ka naman...mas marunong ka pa sa bibliya...di ka yata muslim...born again ka yata e....wehehehehe!

ha ha ha kahit kunin mo na yon, walang epekto yon sa pananampalataya namin

hindi mo alam ang istorya ng black stone? :D


ha ha ha yan ang ng papatunay na nag aaral ako ng comparative :) hindi tulad mo pumasok na bilang seminarista na walng alam- papano lagi sa kumbento

alam mo ba ilan WORDS meron ang Biblya mo ?

LETTRA kaya alam mo ?

ilan beses binangit si Marry ?

ilan beses binaggit si Moses ?

ilan beses binangit ang salitang " Son of Man"

at "Son of God"

ano na tameme ka?, sagutin mo muna ANONG UNANG VERSION ng BIBLYA?

dsgamefowl
January 14th, 2010, 07:43 AM
ito sabi ni Bro Grey/Dom

di mo yata kilala kami bro ds...kristyano po kami...di paulino..sinusunod namin si kristo...di si paulo...mahirap ba talagang intindihin yan? kaya ka pala tumiwalag di ka nakakaintindi sa mga aral ni kristo...maraming nakasulat sa bibliya na di namin sinusunod( isang pagpapatunay ni Bro Grey/Dom na hindi nga salita ng Diyos ang Biblya)...ang buhay po ni Hesus at mga salita at ehemplo niya ang aming sinusunod...



Bro BL, malinaw umamin na


hindi nga salita ng Diyos

sige na mag research ka muna, bukas ulit sleep na ako

God Bless us All

grey/dom
January 14th, 2010, 07:51 AM
tingnan niyo, unti unti nanaman umiiwas sa tanong ko napaka simple

ANONG UNANG VERSION NG BIBLYA?, ilan po bang libro ito meron kompara sa mga Christian Version of the Bible


ito bro GD

“For every nation there is a direction to which they face (in their prayers). So hasten towards all that is good. Wheresoever you may be, God will bring you together (on the Day of Resurrection). Truly, God is Able to do all things. And from wheresoever you start forth (for prayers), turn your face in the direction of Al-Masjid-al-Haram (at Mecca), that is indeed the truth from your Lord. And God is not unaware of what you do.” (Quran 2:148-149)

eto pa

“Thus, we have made you real believers in Islamic Monotheism, true followers of Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) and his legal ways, a just nation, witnesses over mankind and the Messenger a witness over you. And We made the Qibla (prayer direction towards Jerusalem) which you used to face, only to test those who followed the Messenger from those who would turn on their heels (i.e. disobey the Messenger). Indeed, it was great (heavy) except for those whom God guided. And God would never make your prayers to be lost (i.e. your prayers offered towards Jerusalem). Truly, God is full of kindness, the Most Merciful towards humankind.”
“Verily! We have seen the turning of your (Muhammad) face towards the heaven. Surely, We shall turn you to a Qibla (prayer direction) that shall please you, so turn your face in the direction of Al-Masjid- al-Haram (at Mecca). And wheresoever you people are, turn your faces (in prayer) in that direction...” (Quran 2:143-144)

marami pa po

yan ang tunay na sumusunod

1 BILLION of MUSLIMS

Prays in ONE DIRECTION


alam niyo po ba kung sino nag build sa Al Aqsa Mosque ?

i GOGOOL na sad !, he he he



TO THE ONE TRUE GOD

eto ba tanong mo? di ka naman marunong magtanong...magtanong na lang di pa marunong...alam mo kaya yon? sinagot mo tanong mo...ano pa sagutin ko? di ka yata marunong makipag usap....:D hahahahahahaha! tanong daw...kaya pala polluted sa banda roon...lahat ng bunganga doon patungo....hahahahaha..in one direction? bilog ang mundo...paano kaya? hahahahaha...

grey/dom
January 14th, 2010, 07:57 AM
ito sabi ni Bro Grey/Dom

di mo yata kilala kami bro ds...kristyano po kami...di paulino..sinusunod namin si kristo...di si paulo...mahirap ba talagang intindihin yan? kaya ka pala tumiwalag di ka nakakaintindi sa mga aral ni kristo...maraming nakasulat sa bibliya na di namin sinusunod( isang pagpapatunay ni Bro Grey/Dom na hindi nga salita ng Diyos ang Biblya)...ang buhay po ni Hesus at mga salita at ehemplo niya ang aming sinusunod...



Bro BL, malinaw umamin na


hindi nga salita ng Diyos

sige na mag research ka muna, bukas ulit sleep na ako

God Bless us All



basahin mo lahat ng post ko...kung sinabi ko na naniwala ako sa lahat na nakasulat sa bibliya...bigyan kita isang milyon....hahahahaha...piso kada araw...:D wawa ka naman...research ka nga kung sino kausap mo...nalilito ka na...sa dami ng kristyano dito...di ako ang nag dala ng paniwala nila...paniwala ko rin eto bilang kristyano...go back bro go back...hanapin mo doon sinabi ko na bilib na bilib ako sa bibliya mo! hahahaha...kaw etong memorize ang bible...kaya naging lito ka na...nalilito...tawag ng kampi hoy..bro bl...sagipin nyo to...tinawag ang di naniwala sa mosaic commandments...hahahahahaha...mga kaawa awang mga nilalang...alipin ng sariling relihiyon at paniwala!:D

retreat..research ka muna...tawag ka ng titser mo..patulong ka...di mo kaya dito...hehehehe..

beakheel
January 14th, 2010, 08:37 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/MdrLjGHPj4A&hl=en_US&fs=1&">


yan REVIEW ninyo ulit isa isa kung sino sino sila mga sikat yan walang pakialam nag muslim dahil nalaman nila ang katotohanan


siguro naman gawin ninyo example sila

Cat Stevens - sikat na singer iniwan mga droga for the sake of Allah(swt)

cat stevens- yousof salem dating magaling na singer composer-nalulong sa droga-naging adik- naging converted- ngayon gustong bumalik uli sa pagkanta at ngcompose uli pero di na sya makabalik dahil huli na ng malaman nya na wala na ang dating talino at talento nya....sorry na lang sya.

beakheel
January 14th, 2010, 08:47 AM
basahin mo lahat ng post ko...kung sinabi ko na naniwala ako sa lahat na nakasulat sa bibliya...bigyan kita isang milyon....hahahahaha...piso kada araw...:D wawa ka naman...research ka nga kung sino kausap mo...nalilito ka na...sa dami ng kristyano dito...di ako ang nag dala ng paniwala nila...paniwala ko rin eto bilang kristyano...go back bro go back...hanapin mo doon sinabi ko na bilib na bilib ako sa bibliya mo! hahahaha...kaw etong memorize ang bible...kaya naging lito ka na...nalilito...tawag ng kampi hoy..bro bl...sagipin nyo to...tinawag ang di naniwala sa mosaic commandments...hahahahahaha...mga kaawa awang mga nilalang...alipin ng sariling relihiyon at paniwala!:D

retreat..research ka muna...tawag ka ng titser mo..patulong ka...di mo kaya dito...hehehehe..

bro grey/dom
mag do donate din ako ng ilang bahagdan kapag nilabas nya uli yung sampayan law ng relihiyon nya.

si bl wala namang saysay at kredibilidad ang sinasabi nyan....dahil isang propagandistang tig pipiso lang. sa san juan nga ang lahi nya ay initsa puera.

bluelegged
January 14th, 2010, 11:30 AM
HUH! UMAMIN NA BA??? SABI KO NA NGA BA E NAHIHIYA LANG SILA E, AYAN SUNOD SUNOD NA YAN WEHEHEHE

NADALE SILA NG 'SONG OF SONGS, VIRGIN BIRTH, LIGHTNING STRIKES, EVES' CREATION FROM HIP BONES' HAHAHAHAHA

bluelegged
January 14th, 2010, 11:35 AM
MGA BRO, WAG NA KAYO KAKAIN NG BABOY, KAYA NGA TINAWAG NA BABOY YAN E KINAKAIN NYAN KANING BABOY NA PANIS, EDI LAHAT NG SUSTANSSIYA NG KANING-BABOY E NAPUPUNTA SA KATAWAN NYO WEHEHEHE:eek: HMMMMMMP!!!!!

dsgamefowl
January 14th, 2010, 03:57 PM
cat stevens- yousof salem dating magaling na singer composer-nalulong sa droga-naging adik- naging converted- ngayon gustong bumalik uli sa pagkanta at ngcompose uli pero di na sya makabalik dahil huli na ng malaman nya na wala na ang dating talino at talento nya....sorry na lang sya.


ha ha ha , siguro ikaw ang adik kasi kung ano anoang sinasabi mo

Yousuf Islam ang pangalan niya :D :p tingnan mo na yan katawatawa ka nanaman

dsgamefowl
January 14th, 2010, 04:03 PM
HUH! UMAMIN NA BA??? SABI KO NA NGA BA E NAHIHIYA LANG SILA E, AYAN SUNOD SUNOD NA YAN WEHEHEHE

NADALE SILA NG 'SONG OF SONGS, VIRGIN BIRTH, LIGHTNING STRIKES, EVES' CREATION FROM HIP BONES' HAHAHAHAHA


malinaw sabi niya HINDI LAHAT NAKASULAT SA BIBLYA PINANINIWALAAN NILA (ni lahat pa)

tapos kung itanong mo sa kanila, sasabihin pa rin sa iyo na ito ay salita ng Diyos

bakit hindi mo pinaniniwalaan ang ibang nakasulat ?

akala ko ba sabi mo ito ay inspired by GOD

dsgamefowl
January 14th, 2010, 04:12 PM
MGA BRO, WAG NA KAYO KAKAIN NG BABOY, KAYA NGA TINAWAG NA BABOY YAN E KINAKAIN NYAN KANING BABOY NA PANIS, EDI LAHAT NG SUSTANSSIYA NG KANING-BABOY E NAPUPUNTA SA KATAWAN NYO WEHEHEHE:eek: HMMMMMMP!!!!!

tama yan Bro BL, kaya makikita naman halos lahat ng kumakain ng BABOY

nawawala na ang HIYA :D :p

ang katangian ng BABOY napunta na sa kanila


YOU ARE WHAT YOU EAT

pangalan pa lang napakarumi na


Bro beakheel manood ka si Cat Stevens still sings and composing songs pero maka diyos na :)


sama mo panoorin mga anak mo
http://www.youtube.com/v/ypp3cQ1CpQo&hl=en_US&fs=1&">


enjoy

ito pa Bro beakheel, masdaan mo ha baka sabihin mo nun nag muslim na siya di na siya kumakanta


http://www.youtube.com/v/4cpX1ZjuaiA&hl=en_US&fs=1&">

bluelegged
January 14th, 2010, 07:43 PM
O AYAN HA MGA BROS, MISMONG SI CARDINAL GREY/DOM NA NAGSALITA, DI DAW NYA PINANINIWALAAN LAHAT NAKASULAT SA BIBLE NA GALING SA 'GOD' .....TAGAL KO NA SINASABI SA INYO AYAW NYO MANIWALA E, BUTI PA SI CARDINAL NA GETS!:D

grey/dom
January 14th, 2010, 07:56 PM
O AYAN HA MGA BROS, MISMONG SI CARDINAL GREY/DOM NA NAGSALITA, DI DAW NYA PINANINIWALAAN LAHAT NAKASULAT SA BIBLE NA GALING SA 'GOD' .....TAGAL KO NA SINASABI SA INYO AYAW NYO MANIWALA E, BUTI PA SI CARDINAL NA GETS!:D

HAHAHAHAHAHA...MAGKAKAMPI NA TAYO NGAYON? HAHAHAHA!:D

PIT SENYOR! KAY BLUE BOY KINI!

yong BLACK STONE....milyon cguro halaga non...

bluelegged
January 14th, 2010, 07:57 PM
'IT IS THE HUMAN BRAIN THAT WILL DESTROY MANKIND' NOSTRADAMUS NOV2010:eek:

wrigleycanada
January 14th, 2010, 08:02 PM
O AYAN HA MGA BROS, MISMONG SI CARDINAL GREY/DOM NA NAGSALITA, DI DAW NYA PINANINIWALAAN LAHAT NAKASULAT SA BIBLE NA GALING SA 'GOD' .....TAGAL KO NA SINASABI SA INYO AYAW NYO MANIWALA E, BUTI PA SI CARDINAL NA GETS!:D
Masyado naman kasing literal ang interpretation nyo ng bible. You have to look at the context; when, how, why was it written. Take also into consideration the way hebrews write, medyo matulain ang istilo nila. Gusto nyo kasi eh parang computer; what you see is what you get. Hindi naman ganuon. pero personally I believe that the Bible is the Word of God. Gods way of communicating His messages to mankind. No other means. Kinokurupt lang ng marami kasi nga sa mga matalinghagang passages eh iba-iba naang interpretation.. You can not question God; with His Infinite Wisdom, who is Man to question Him?

bluelegged
January 14th, 2010, 08:04 PM
CARDINAL, MERON NA NAMANG BAGO FOR THIS YEAR, WORLD WAR III DAW BIOLOGICAL WARFARE, SUSMARYOSEP:eek: .....MAGPA BAKUNA NA KAYO NG 'H1N1' ANTI DOTE YAN HAHAHAHAHA, AYAN TINESTING NA SA HAITI ISANG BABY NUKE, WEHEHEHE, BUTI NA LANG HINDI GUMUHO YUN KAPIRASO NG HAITI, SUSMARYOSEP ANO BA YAN!!!!!

bluelegged
January 14th, 2010, 08:13 PM
Masyado naman kasing literal ang interpretation nyo ng bible. You have to look at the context; when, how, why was it written. Take also into consideration the way hebrews write, medyo matulain ang istilo nila. Gusto nyo kasi eh parang computer; what you see is what you get. Hindi naman ganuon. pero personally I believe that the Bible is the Word of God. Gods way of communicating His messages to mankind. No other means. Kinokurupt lang ng marami kasi nga sa mga matalinghagang passages eh iba-iba naang interpretation.. You can not question God; with His Infinite Wisdom, who is Man to question Him?


SINO NGA SI 'GOD' E? SIGE GUESSING GAME TAYO....AKO SI 'MOSES' ANG GOD, PERO DUDA PA RIN AKO E, BAKA GALING SI MOSES SA TINTA E, KUNG GALING SA TINTA, SI 'ABRAHAM' ANG GOD:eek:

grey/dom
January 14th, 2010, 09:53 PM
malinaw sabi niya HINDI LAHAT NAKASULAT SA BIBLYA PINANINIWALAAN NILA (ni lahat pa)

tapos kung itanong mo sa kanila, sasabihin pa rin sa iyo na ito ay salita ng Diyos

bakit hindi mo pinaniniwalaan ang ibang nakasulat ?

akala ko ba sabi mo ito ay inspired by GOD

pati eto ay di naintindihan....ano kayang words gamitin ko para maintindihan?

naka graduate ka ba? di sumakit ang ulo ng titser mo?

balik ka sa mga post ko uy....kinuquestion ko nga genealogy of jesus...na di magkatugma ang dalawang writers....dallllliiiiiii! balik kayo...gusto nyo pa ilagay ko dito ulit? first page ata yon....balllliiikkk...

kaw naniwala sa genesis? nasa koran din yan...e saan napunta si cain? at bakit siya dumami? maraming nakasulat sa bibliya na di maintindihan ng simpleng tao at simpleng utak lang...kaya nga its a dangerous thing...tapos laitlaitin mo...tapos...xerox copy pa ang koran nyo doon...puro kayo mga cloaning lang...saan naman ninyo nalaman na gabriel pala pangalan ng anghel? di ba sa bibliya? tapos merong malik...insert naman yon...king of hell daw ngunit di naman demonyo...esplika mo nga....kung si ate glo ay di pilipino at presidente ng pilipinas...ano naman klaseng paniwala yan? ikaw ang hari sa impyerno ngunit di ka demonyo...

wrigleycanada
January 14th, 2010, 10:33 PM
pati eto ay di naintindihan....ano kayang words gamitin ko para maintindihan?

naka graduate ka ba? di sumakit ang ulo ng titser mo?

balik ka sa mga post ko uy....kinuquestion ko nga genealogy of jesus...na di magkatugma ang dalawang writers....dallllliiiiiii! balik kayo...gusto nyo pa ilagay ko dito ulit? first page ata yon....balllliiikkk...

kaw naniwala sa genesis? nasa koran din yan...e saan napunta si cain? at bakit siya dumami? maraming nakasulat sa bibliya na di maintindihan ng simpleng tao at simpleng utak lang...kaya nga its a dangerous thing...tapos laitlaitin mo...tapos...xerox copy pa ang koran nyo doon...puro kayo mga cloaning lang...saan naman ninyo nalaman na gabriel pala pangalan ng anghel? di ba sa bibliya? tapos merong malik...insert naman yon...king of hell daw ngunit di naman demonyo...esplika mo nga....kung si ate glo ay di pilipino at presidente ng pilipinas...ano naman klaseng paniwala yan? ikaw ang hari sa impyerno ngunit di ka demonyo...
Pag genesis na ang topic ay talagang hindi maiintindihan yan ng ordinaryong tao o ng siyentific minded person. You just have to accept it by faith. Yun nga lang ibang event sa genisis ay talagang mahirap tanggapin. gaya ng Great Flood ni Noah. Walang geological findings na talagang naganap ang event na ito last 4,000 years ago. Pwedeng localized flooding lang yuon na kagaya ng Ondoy pero very poetic ang pagkakasulat ni Moses. Yung 10 plagues of in Egypt eh meron ng scientific truths na talagang naganap. Pero kung iintindihin mo ang pagkasulat ni Moses as-where-is ay maguguluhan ka. For me God really exist. kasi the only solutions to all the scientific questions regarding the beginning of Time is for hypothesiszing the existence of God. Try to put all the parts of a car in a certain container and shake it infinitely until it will become a car? Do you think that will happen? mapupudpud na lang lahat ng pyesa pero hindi magiging kotse yaan. kailanagan ng tao para maging kotse yan. Same is through with Creation. You do not need to complicate matters para alamin mo lahat ng kasagutan. Answers will come along the way as you search for the truth and facts. For now they invented a machine that can accelerate particles para prove ang Big Bang Theory. I think dust was created when they accelated the molecules in space not seen by the naked eye.

grey/dom
January 14th, 2010, 11:00 PM
Pag genesis na ang topic ay talagang hindi maiintindihan yan ng ordinaryong tao o ng siyentific minded person. You just have to accept it by faith. Yun nga lang ibang event sa genisis ay talagang mahirap tanggapin. gaya ng Great Flood ni Noah. Walang geological findings na talagang naganap ang event na ito last 4,000 years ago. Pwedeng localized flooding lang yuon na kagaya ng Ondoy pero very poetic ang pagkakasulat ni Moses. Yung 10 plagues of in Egypt eh meron ng scientific truths na talagang naganap. Pero kung iintindihin mo ang pagkasulat ni Moses as-where-is ay maguguluhan ka. For me God really exist. kasi the only solutions to all the scientific questions regarding the beginning of Time is for hypothesiszing the existence of God. Try to put all the parts of a car in a certain container and shake it infinitely until it will become a car? Do you think that will happen? mapupudpud na lang lahat ng pyesa pero hindi magiging kotse yaan. kailanagan ng tao para maging kotse yan. Same is through with Creation. You do not need to complicate matters para alamin mo lahat ng kasagutan. Answers will come along the way as you search for the truth and facts. For now they invented a machine that can accelerate particles para prove ang Big Bang Theory. I think dust was created when they accelated the molecules in space not seen by the naked eye.

ika nga give the tools to the expert...di puede ang labandero maging mekaniko...pag yong nag aaral ng bibliya...yon may karapatan yon mo esplika...ngunit simpleng tao...tapos laitin ang bibliya...naku..maloloko lang siya...pag di ka computer expert...hwag mo na pakialaman ang computer...lalo lang masira...hahahaha..

eto ang sabi ng mentor ko...bible writers are inspired by GOD or HOLY SPIRIT when they write the book...but at some point there are writings in their own mind that is not inspired...kaya merong mga kinaltas...merong inspired by GOD at merong only inspired by men...at mahirap intindihin yan sa karaniwang tao...si mohammad ba ay inspired by the angel gabriel daw all the time? there are break times...lol! hahahaha...kung writer ka..maintindihan mo bugso sa pagsusulat ...na minsan maganda sinulat mo...na minsan naman...wala talagang laman...

bluelegged
January 15th, 2010, 12:09 AM
THE TRUTH IS NOBODY KNOWS WHO IS GOD. PERO MERON WHO CREATED ALL KINDS OF LIVING THINGS ON EARTH......THE 'SUN' ......ETO BA ANG 'GOD'?

SO, DO WE HAVE TO BELIEVE THE IMPOSSIBLES? KAHIT BALIK-BALIKTARIN MO YAN IMPOSSIBLE PA RIN YAN, 'WAG NATEN KALUGIN ANG SPARE PARTS NG KOTSE PARA MAGING BISIKLETA' .....YUN ISA SA ANAK NI EBA N ADAN KUNO, SAAN NAKUHA ANG ASAWA? E SILA ANG UNANG NILIKHA DIBAAAAAA!!!!

mikki moored
January 15th, 2010, 02:06 AM
THE TRUTH IS NOBODY KNOWS WHO IS GOD. PERO MERON WHO CREATED ALL KINDS OF LIVING THINGS ON EARTH......THE 'SUN' ......ETO BA ANG 'GOD'?

SO, DO WE HAVE TO BELIEVE THE IMPOSSIBLES? KAHIT BALIK-BALIKTARIN MO YAN IMPOSSIBLE PA RIN YAN, 'WAG NATEN KALUGIN ANG SPARE PARTS NG KOTSE PARA MAGING BISIKLETA' .....YUN ISA SA ANAK NI EBA N ADAN KUNO, SAAN NAKUHA ANG ASAWA? E SILA ANG UNANG NILIKHA DIBAAAAAA!!!!

gusto mo yatang tawagin kang anti-christ!!! hindi ka papasa dahil cung laude ka lang! dapat ay genius ang anti-christus. kulang pa ang mga post mo para tawagin kang genius. may inconsistency minsan. kaya, ipagpatuloy mo pa ang mga post mo at ako ang huhusga kung puede na ang laude.

JOJI BINAY
January 15th, 2010, 06:07 AM
THE TRUTH IS NOBODY KNOWS WHO IS GOD. PERO MERON WHO CREATED ALL KINDS OF LIVING THINGS ON EARTH......THE 'SUN' ......ETO BA ANG 'GOD'?

SO, DO WE HAVE TO BELIEVE THE IMPOSSIBLES? KAHIT BALIK-BALIKTARIN MO YAN IMPOSSIBLE PA RIN YAN, 'WAG NATEN KALUGIN ANG SPARE PARTS NG KOTSE PARA MAGING BISIKLETA' .....YUN ISA SA ANAK NI EBA N ADAN KUNO, SAAN NAKUHA ANG ASAWA? E SILA ANG UNANG NILIKHA DIBAAAAAA!!!!

saan pa di sa ginawang kabit ni ADAN :D

dsgamefowl
January 15th, 2010, 03:49 PM
[quote=dsgamefowl]





1Tayo ay pinalaya ni Cristo. Magpakatatag kayo sa kalayaang ito at huwag na ninyong hayaang ang sinuman na dalhin kayong muli sa pamatok ng pagkaalipin.
2Narito, akong si Pablo ang nagsasabi sa inyo: Kapag kayo ay nagpailalaim sa pagtutuli, si Cristo ay walang pakinabang para sa inyo. 3Muli akong nagpapatotoo sa bawat lalaking nasa ilalim ng pagtutuli, siya ay may pananagutang tuparin ang buong kautusan. 4Kung kayo ay pinapaging-matuwid ng kautusan, kayo ay napahiwalay na kay Cristo. Nahulog na kayo mula sa biyaya. 5Sapagkat sa pamamagitan ng Espiritu, ayon sa pananampalataya, tayo ay may pananabik na naghihintay sa pag-asa ng katuwiran. 6Ito ay sapagkat, kay Cristo Jesus, ang pagiging nasa pagtutuli at ang hindi pagiging nasa pagtutuli ay walang halaga. Subalit ang may kahalagahan ay ang pananampalatayang gumagawa sa pamamagitan ng pag-ibig.
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eto pa isang momo.....e ano magawa mo kung di namin sinunod yan? laws are only guide...talagang hirap kayo makaintindi ano? pati aral namin...pinakailaman nyo...yong mga bombero nyo...wala kayong pakialam...pati pagtutuli...kayo pang mga di kristyano ang manghimasok ano gawin namin? hahahahahaha...pati bibliya tinutuligsa...pati si Hesus...tapos...bilib daw sila...wawa naman kayo...wala kayong sariling utak...nanghihiram lang kayo...

di mo yata kilala kami bro ds...kristyano po kami...di paulino..sinusunod namin si kristo...di si paulo...mahirap ba talagang intindihin yan? kaya ka pala tumiwalag di ka nakakaintindi sa mga aral ni kristo...maraming nakasulat sa bibliya na di namin sinusunod...ang buhay po ni Hesus at mga salita at ehemplo niya ang aming sinusunod...

mahirap talaga pag tumatanda na :p :D

bluelegged
January 15th, 2010, 08:57 PM
saan pa di sa ginawang kabit ni ADAN :D


JOJI WEHEHEHE!


MGA BRO, BREAKFAST MUNA TAYO, SINAGAG AT DAING NA BONELESS BANGUS, SAWSAWAN 'LECHE FLAN' :eek: YUMMY TO!

LEO23
January 15th, 2010, 11:58 PM
tama yan Bro BL, kaya makikita naman halos lahat ng kumakain ng BABOY

nawawala na ang HIYA :D :p

ang katangian ng BABOY napunta na sa kanila


YOU ARE WHAT YOU EAT

pangalan pa lang napakarumi na


Bro beakheel manood ka si Cat Stevens still sings and composing songs pero maka diyos na :)


sama mo panoorin mga anak mo
http://www.youtube.com/v/ypp3cQ1CpQo&hl=en_US&fs=1&">


enjoy

ito pa Bro beakheel, masdaan mo ha baka sabihin mo nun nag muslim na siya di na siya kumakanta


http://www.youtube.com/v/4cpX1ZjuaiA&hl=en_US&fs=1&">


bother ganon ba yun pag kumain ka ng baboy pupunta sa iyo katangian ng baboy.

pag tupa punta sa iyo katangian ng tupa, pag baka katangian naman ng baka.

hindi ako sang ayun sa yo.dahil dami namang muslim na kumakain ng baka di ko naman nakitang nag-asal baka.

dsgamefowl
January 16th, 2010, 07:17 AM
bother ganon ba yun pag kumain ka ng baboy pupunta sa iyo katangian ng baboy.

pag tupa punta sa iyo katangian ng tupa, pag baka katangian naman ng baka.

hindi ako sang ayun sa yo.dahil dami namang muslim na kumakain ng baka di ko naman nakitang nag-asal baka.

ha ha ha Bro LEO, hindi mo lan gets kung anong ibig kong sabihin

yan baboy kasi pinagbabawal yan kahit man lang hawakan nakasulat yan sa BIBLYA mo

at mismo si Jesus(pbuh) libo libong baboy ang pinatay niya sa daming hayop bakit i BABOY pa? :D :p

ang baboy baboy kasi

kita mo naman sa mga palabas ngayon halos hubot hubad na


lalo na si Miss Congrats - naku sabay hila pa pa baba kasi kita na ang "KIGUL" :D :p

ha ha ha - totoo bro masdan mo mga babae ngayon may mga scandal na pero parang wala lang nangyari

napanood mo ba ? he he he

dsgamefowl
January 16th, 2010, 07:31 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/pcgCdn8I8kU&hl=en_US&fs=1&">

bluelegged
January 16th, 2010, 11:52 AM
lam nyo mga bros, mas maganda na yun sumasampalataya ka na meron ka nakikitang isang batong itim, kesa naman yun isang tao na nakapako sa krus at duguan, ano ba yan!!!! bakit hatred ang ipinamumulat sa tao? kaninong turo ba yan???

bro ds musta na? lam mo bro yan panis na kinakain ng baboy e dyan nakukuha ang cancer, gout, ano ba ba? di gaya ng baka o kambing, tupa, mga natural minerals makukuha naten dyan pampasigla ng katawan wehehehe

RKfarm
January 17th, 2010, 03:04 AM
yan baboy kasi pinagbabawal yan kahit man lang hawakan nakasulat yan sa BIBLYA mo

at mismo si Jesus(pbuh) libo libong baboy ang pinatay niya sa daming hayop bakit i BABOY pa? :D :p

ang baboy baboy kasi

kita mo naman sa mga palabas ngayon halos hubot hubad na


lalo na si Miss Congrats - naku sabay hila pa pa baba kasi kita na ang "KIGUL" :D :p

ha ha ha - totoo bro masdan mo mga babae ngayon may mga scandal na pero parang wala lang nangyari

napanood mo ba ? he he he

Bro DS; unawain mo ito at basahin kung talagang sinusunod niyo si Jesus:
Mateo 15:11 -Hindi ang pumapasok sa bibig ng tao kundi ang lumalabas ang nakapagpaparumi sa kanya sa mata ng Diyos.
Mateo 15:17 -Hindi ba ninyo nalalaman na anumang pumapasok sa bibig ay tumutuloy sa tiyan, at idinudumi? (18) Ngunit ang lumalabas sa bibig ay manggagaling sa puso at ito ang nagpaparumi sa tao.(19) Sapagkat sa puso nanggagaling ang masasamang isipan,pagpatay,pangangalunya,pakikiapid,pagnanaka w,pagsaksi sa kasinungalingan at paninirang puri. (20)Ang mga ito ang nagpaparumi sa tao. Ngunit ang kumain ng di muna naghuhugas ng kamay sa paraang naaayon sa minanang turo ay hindi nakapagpaparumi sa tao.

unawain mong mabuti yan bro at di mo kailangan na tikisin mo ung sarili sa anumang pagkain dahil malinaw yan kung anong itinuturo..

dsgamefowl
January 17th, 2010, 03:57 AM
Bro DS; unawain mo ito at basahin kung talagang sinusunod niyo si Jesus:
Mateo 15:11 -Hindi ang pumapasok sa bibig ng tao kundi ang lumalabas ang nakapagpaparumi sa kanya sa mata ng Diyos.
Mateo 15:17 -Hindi ba ninyo nalalaman na anumang pumapasok sa bibig ay tumutuloy sa tiyan, at idinudumi? (18) Ngunit ang lumalabas sa bibig ay manggagaling sa puso at ito ang nagpaparumi sa tao.(19) Sapagkat sa puso nanggagaling ang masasamang isipan,pagpatay,pangangalunya,pakikiapid,pagnanaka w,pagsaksi sa kasinungalingan at paninirang puri. (20)Ang mga ito ang nagpaparumi sa tao. Ngunit ang kumain ng di muna naghuhugas ng kamay sa paraang naaayon sa minanang turo ay hindi nakapagpaparumi sa tao.

unawain mong mabuti yan bro at di mo kailangan na tikisin mo ung sarili sa anumang pagkain dahil malinaw yan kung anong itinuturo..

ikaw ang dapat umunawa sa mga versikulo ibinigay mo

ibig mong sabihin "KAHIT ANONG PAPASOK SA BUNGANGA AY OK LANG ? "

ano ba naman yan gamitin mo naman ang common sense mo malinaw sa lumang tipan ang batas na pagbabawal na kumain ng baboy at sa bagong tipan naman sinabi ni Hesus

17Huwag ninyong isiping naparito ako upang sirain ang Kautusan o ang mga Propeta. Naparito ako hindi upang sirain kundi upang tuparin ang mga ito.

18Katotohanang sinasabi ko sa inyo: Lilipas ang langit at ang lupa ngunit kahit isang tuldok o isang kudlit sa Kautusan ay hindi lilipas sa anumang paraan hanggang matupad ang lahat.

19Kaya ang sinumang lumabag sa isa sa mga utos na ito, kahit na ang kaliit-liitan, at ituro sa mga tao ang gayon, ay tatawaging pinakamababa sa paghahari ng langit. Ngunit ang sinumang gumaganap at nagtuturong ganapin ito ay tatawaging dakila sa paghahari ng langit


pero kung Doctor ang magsabi bawal ka muna kumain ng Baboy sinusunod mo pero pag yun utos ng Diyos ayaw kasi may kasabihan

Kung ano yun Bawal, yunang Masarap :p :D


Viva Santo Nino

Hala Bira - he he he

patay tayo dyan


Bro BL, ok lang ako dito :)

dsgamefowl
January 17th, 2010, 04:06 AM
4Patungkol sa mga pagkaing inihain sa mga diyos-diyosan, alam nating walang halaga ang diyos-diyosan sa sanlibutan. Alam nating wala nang ibang Diyos maliban sa isa.



5Sapagkat maraming mga tinatawag na diyos sa langit man o sa lupa, maraming diyos, maraming panginoon.

6Subalit para sa atin iisa lamang ang Diyos, ang Ama.

bluelegged
January 17th, 2010, 04:10 AM
AYOS! BAKIT SA MGA FARM PAG DUMADAAN KA AT NALANGHAP MO ANG ORGANIC FERTILIZER NG BAKA SASABIHIN MO, HMMMMM AMOY FARM, PERO PAG NAPADAAN KA SA PIGGERY, HMMMMMMP ANG BAHO NAMAN NYAN:eek: HEHEHEHE YAN NA YATA ANG PINAKAMABAHO SA LAHAT PATI KINAKAIN DI MAAMOY HAHAHAHA......PERO MASARAP DAW YAN KUNG JUICY DUN LAHAT NG KATAS NG KANING-BABOY NA PANIS HAHAHAHA

grey/dom
January 17th, 2010, 04:11 AM
lam nyo mga bros, mas maganda na yun sumasampalataya ka na meron ka nakikitang isang batong itim, kesa naman yun isang tao na nakapako sa krus at duguan, ano ba yan!!!! bakit hatred ang ipinamumulat sa tao? kaninong turo ba yan???

bro ds musta na? lam mo bro yan panis na kinakain ng baboy e dyan nakukuha ang cancer, gout, ano ba ba? di gaya ng baka o kambing, tupa, mga natural minerals makukuha naten dyan pampasigla ng katawan wehehehe

sino kaya pagan ngayon? hoy! magtayo kayo sarili nyong meaning ng pagan!

bato bato sa langit...sinasamba ng pilit!

dsgamefowl
January 17th, 2010, 04:15 AM
Ang BABOY BOW

Pigs the perfect breeding ground for flu


http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/04/27/2554021.htm

For virologists, it has come as no great surprise that the latest influenza threat has come from pigs, because the animals have long been considered the ideal breeding ground for the virus.
One expert says humans are unlikely to have much natural immunity to the new strain of flu, which means there could be little to stop it if it spreads further.
For all the fear that the bird flu would become a pandemic, there is always a barrier; it can only be passed on by birds.
But the latest flu outbreak seems very good at jumping from human to human.
A microbiology and immunology expert at James Cook University, Dr Graham Burgess, says it came from a pig and also has traces of a bird virus.
"Most of the flu viruses originally are bird viruses but they've learnt to grow in a range of species and some of them have been particularly well adapted to grow in pigs; those ones we refer to as swine flu," he said.
"What we do find in pigs is that if you look in the respiratory tract or in the lungs and so forth of the pig, there are cells there that look very much like the cells in humans, but there are also cells there that have a surface that looks a little bit like the chicken lung.
"So viruses that would normally grow in the chicken can potentially grow in the pig and ones that grow in humans will potentially grow in pigs.
"So we consider the pig as a great mixing pot for viruses and this is where it can play a real role in generating new viruses."

bluelegged
January 17th, 2010, 04:18 AM
sino kaya pagan ngayon? hoy! magtayo kayo sarili nyong meaning ng pagan!

bato bato sa langit...sinasamba ng pilit!


ABA, SINO BA PAGAN? SI KRISTO NGA PINAKO SA CROSS, SIGN NI THAMUZ YAN AT GAMIT NG ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH, LAM NYO BA SINO SI THAMUZ? AT BAKIT NGA PALA BINABANDILA NG VATICAN YAN? THAT'S PUTTING HATRED INTO YOUR MINDS, TO REBEL, TO COMMIT VIOLENCE, TO REVENGE, ETC.

grey/dom
January 17th, 2010, 04:19 AM
sarap ng ham ko....hapunan ...at saka yong burger ko sa mcdo!

me lechon mamaya sa filipino groups dito...nag sinulog e!

pit senyor! kay blue boy kini!

dsgamefowl
January 17th, 2010, 04:23 AM
New virus


Dr Burgess said it was only going to be a matter of time before a new pandemic surfaced.
"It's no big surprise, in fact what we knew is that we were overdue for a pandemic and exactly where it would come is anybody's guess," he said.
"Going from birds to humans means that there's several steps involved. Going from pigs to humans there are fewer steps involved.
"It looks like this one has actually possibly been a pig that's been infected at some stage with a pig virus and a chicken virus and then perhaps later on been infected with a human virus and a pig virus, and it's grabbed genes from each of them and put them together to make a brand new virus.
Dr Burgess says the fact that the virus might be transmitted from human to human is of huge concern to health officials.
"There is a genuine possibility that this one could become an important disease, he said.
"It looks like some of the data from the US, they're finding very difficult to have any association between pigs and some of the people who've been infected so there's a strong possibility it's human to human transmission."



Dr Burgess says if the virus reaches Australia, there will be little to stop it spreading.
"One of the things is this one probably has some of the genes that makes it efficient to grow in humans but the outside of the virus has got some genes that make it a little bit different to the viruses that we've used in our vaccines in the past or the people in Australia have experienced in the past," he said.
"Which means that when it infects people here, we'll probably have very little immunity to it, so there'll be almost nothing to stop it."
There was always a fear with the bird flu that pigs could play a role in passing it on in a form which was more contagious to humans.

grey/dom
January 17th, 2010, 04:25 AM
ABA, SINO BA PAGAN? SI KRISTO NGA PINAKO SA CROSS, SIGN NI THAMUZ YAN AT GAMIT NG ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH, LAM NYO BA SINO SI THAMUZ? AT BAKIT NGA PALA BINABANDILA NG VATICAN YAN? THAT'S PUTTING HATRED INTO YOUR MINDS, TO REBEL, TO COMMIT VIOLENCE, TO REVENGE, ETC.

bali ka pala e....kami pa me hatred....hahahahahaha

yong mga bombero....walang hatred! yon....pang langit gawa nila!:D

paurong ka na!

dsgamefowl
January 17th, 2010, 04:28 AM
sarap ng ham ko....hapunan ...at saka yong burger ko sa mcdo!

me lechon mamaya sa filipino groups dito...nag sinulog e!

pit senyor!



ingats lang sa symptomas nito - ha ha ha

What is trichinellosis?
Trichinellosis, also called trichinosis, is caused by eating raw or undercooked meat of animals infected with the larvae of a species of worm called Trichinella. Infection occurs commonly in certain wild carnivorous (meat-eating) animals but may also occur in domestic pigs.


What are the symptoms of a trichinellosis infection?
Nausea, diarrhea, vomiting, fatigue, fever, and abdominal discomfort are the first symptoms of trichinellosis. Headaches, fevers, chills, cough, eye swelling, aching joints and muscle pains, itchy skin, diarrhea, or constipation follow the first symptoms. If the infection is heavy, patients may experience difficulty coordinating movements, and have heart and breathing problems. In severe cases, death can occur.
For mild to moderate infections, most symptoms subside within a few months. Fatigue, weakness, and diarrhea may last for months.

How soon after infection will symptoms appear?
Abdominal symptoms can occur 1-2 days after infection. Further symptoms usually start 2-8 weeks after eating contaminated meat. Symptoms may range from very mild to severe and relate to the number of infectious worms consumed in meat. Often, mild cases of trichinellosis are never specifically diagnosed and are assumed to be the flu or other common illnesses.

grey/dom
January 17th, 2010, 04:32 AM
ayos yan Bro GD enjoy - huwag mong kalimutan gawin paksiw bukas ang sobra tapos pag may sobra rin ibigay mo na ulit sa BABOY - he he he

Sto nino- maliit na Hesus ? :eek:

hehehehehe..hindi...malaking bato...itim na bato...

hahahahahaha...galing sa kalawakan!

dsgamefowl
January 17th, 2010, 05:12 AM
hehehehehe..hindi...malaking bato...itim na bato...

hahahahahaha...galing sa kalawakan!


hindi nga niya alam ang storya ni Abraham (pbuh) at Ismael (pbuh)

ha ha ha


Bro BL, may puti, may itim may maliit pa :)

dsgamefowl
January 17th, 2010, 05:59 AM
“...and nearest among them (men) in love to the believers will you find those who say ‘we are Christians’: because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant. And when they listen to the revelation received by the messenger (Muhammad), you will see their eyes overflowing with tears for they recognize the truth: They pray: ‘Our Lord! we believe; write us down among the witnesses.’” (Quran 5:82-83)



All biblical “versions” of the Bible prior to the revised version of 1881 were dependent upon the “Ancient Copies” (those dating between five to six hundred years after Jesus). The revisers of the Revised Standard Version (RSV) 1952 were the first biblical scholars to have access to the “MOST ancient copies” which date fully three to four hundred years after Christ. It is only logical for us to concur that the closer a document is to the source the more authentic it is. Let us see what is the opinion of Christendom with regard to the most revised version of the Bible (revised in 1952 and then again in 1971):
“The finest version which has been produced in the present century” - (Church of England newspaper)
“A completely fresh translation by scholars of the highest eminence” - (Times literary supplement)
“The well loved characteristics of the authorized version combined with a new accuracy of translation” - (Life and Work)
“The most accurate and close rendering of the original” - (The Times)
The publishers themselves (Collins) mention on page 10 of their notes:
“This Bible (RSV) is the product of thirty two scholars assisted by an advisory committee representing fifty cooperating denominations”
Let us see what these thirty two Christian scholars of the highest eminence backed by fifty cooperating Christian denominations have to say about the Authorized Version (AV), or as it is better known, the King James Version (KJV). In the preface of the RSV 1971 we find the following:


“...Yet the King James Version has GRAVE DEFECTS..”

They go on to caution us that:
“...That these defects are SO MANY AND SO SERIOUS as to call for revision”




ito pa naman paboritong Version ni Bro GD :D


33For God is not the author of confusion

dsgamefowl
January 17th, 2010, 06:07 AM
The Jehovah’s Witnesses in their “AWAKE” Magazine dated 8th September 1957 published the following headline: “50,000 Errors in the Bible” wherein they say “..there are probably 50,000 errors in the Bible...errors which have crept into the Bible text...50,000 such serious errors...” After all of this, however, they go on to say: “...as a whole the Bible is accurate.” Let us have a look at only a very few of these errors.


In John 3:16 - AV(KJV) we read:
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life..”
[…] this fabrication “begotten” has now been unceremoniously excised by these most eminent of Bible revisers. However, humanity did not have to wait 2000 years for this revelation.


In Maryam(19):88-98 of the noble Quran we read:
“And they say ‘God Most Compassionate has begotten a son!’ Indeed you have put forth a thing most monstrous! The skies are ready to burst (at such a claim), and the earth to split asunder, and the mountains to fall down in utter ruin. That they should ascribe a son to the Most Compassionate. But it is not befitting [the majesty of] the Most Compassionate that He should beget a son. Not one of the beings in the heavens and the earth but must come to the Most Compassionate as a slave. He has taken account of all of them and has numbered them all exactly. And every one of them will come to him singly on the day of judgment. On those who believe and work deeds of righteousness, will God most gracious bestow love. Verily, We have made this [Quran] easy in your tongue [O Muhammad] that you might deliver glad tidings to those who seek refuge [in God] and warn with it a people who are contentious. And how many a generation before them have we destroyed! Can you find a single one of them or hear from them so much as a whisper?”

dsgamefowl
January 17th, 2010, 06:15 AM
Si Matthew po ba ang nagsulat ng


"ACCORDING TO Matthew"


We will note that every Gospel begins with the introduction “According to.....” such as “The Gospel according to Saint Matthew,” “The Gospel according to Saint Luke,” “The Gospel according to Saint Mark,” “The Gospel according to Saint John.” The obvious conclusion for the average man on the street is that these people are known to be the authors of the books attributed to them. This, however is not the case. Why? Because not one of the vaunted four thousand copies existent carries it’s author’s signature. It has just been assumed that they were the authors. Recent discoveries, however, refute this belief. Even the internal evidence proves that, for instance, Matthew did not write the Gospel attributed to him:


“...And as Jesus passed forth thence, HE (Jesus) saw a man, named Matthew, sitting at the receipt of custom: and HE (Jesus) saith unto HIM (Matthew), follow ME (Jesus) and HE (Matthew) arose, and followed HIM (Jesus).” (Matthew 9:9)

It does not take a rocket scientist to see that neither Jesus nor Matthew wrote this verse of “Matthew.” Such evidence can be found in many places throughout the New Testament. Although many people have hypothesized that it is possible that an author sometimes may write in the third person, still, in light of the rest of the evidence that we shall see throughout this book, there is simply too much evidence against this hypothesis.



naloko na - ha ha ha


Bro BL, hihirit nanaman ng iba mga yan :p :D

nicontrina
January 17th, 2010, 07:44 AM
ako hindi namamansin sa post ni Bro RIG, naku hindi nga makakapag produce ng evidensya sa korte yan hindi tatangapin pag kuro kuro lang


POST mo Dito ka pareho ng Verses ng Koran samahan mo na si Bro RIG sa paghanap kung saan sa Biblya

ang umpisa sa pagbasa ng Chapter sa Koran


" In the Name of God Most Gracious, Most Merciful "


sa Biblya

ACCORDING TO :D :p eh mga Tsismoso mga ito pag ganyan




Any Book Attributed to GOD, must be Free from ERRORS and Contradictions.

hindi pwede dagdagan at bawasan hindi na ito galing sa Diyos





ikaw naman bro ds hanggang ngayondimo pa tanggap na nakinig ng aral si muhammad sa libro ni moses
hindi ba sa koran meron din kwento si adan wala nga lang sinabi na eba kundi babae lang. ang david at goliath, noah's ark nasa koran din. ano yan bibliya nangopya sa koran?:D

nicontrina
January 17th, 2010, 07:49 AM
THE TRUTH IS NOBODY KNOWS WHO IS GOD. PERO MERON WHO CREATED ALL KINDS OF LIVING THINGS ON EARTH......THE 'SUN' ......ETO BA ANG 'GOD'?

SO, DO WE HAVE TO BELIEVE THE IMPOSSIBLES? KAHIT BALIK-BALIKTARIN MO YAN IMPOSSIBLE PA RIN YAN, 'WAG NATEN KALUGIN ANG SPARE PARTS NG KOTSE PARA MAGING BISIKLETA' .....YUN ISA SA ANAK NI EBA N ADAN KUNO, SAAN NAKUHA ANG ASAWA? E SILA ANG UNANG NILIKHA DIBAAAAAA!!!!

kung sa kokak ng palaka naniniwala ka
saang mundo ba ginagalawan mo
abnoy na amboy o amboy na abnoy
ah whatever :D

dsgamefowl
January 17th, 2010, 08:15 AM
ikaw naman bro ds hanggang ngayondimo pa tanggap na nakinig ng aral si muhammad sa libro ni moses
hindi ba sa koran meron din kwento si adan wala nga lang sinabi na eba kundi babae lang. ang david at goliath, noah's ark nasa koran din. ano yan bibliya nangopya sa koran?:D

Nic, kumusta na? mukhang nag research ka ata ?:rolleyes:

lahat yan binangit mo meron, pero walang mga

pornographiya :p si noah nagsasayaw na hubot hubad :eek: wala po yan


KASI GINAGALANG NAMIN MGA PROPHETA NG DIYOS


nakalimutan mo na ata ang unang encounter natin, he he he


the FIRST MIRACLE of Jesus:


in the Bible - ginawa niya ALAK ang 6 na bangga na tubig

in the Koran - pinagtanggol ang Nanay niya, baby siya nagsalita


He said: "I am indeed a servant of God: He hath given me revelation and made me a prophet;


"And He hath made me blessed wheresoever I be, and hath enjoined on me Prayer and Charity as long as I live;


"(He) hath made me kind to my mother, and not overbearing or miserable;

"So peace is on me the day I was born, the day that I die, and the day that I shall be raised up to life (again)"!

nicontrina
January 17th, 2010, 08:39 AM
Nic, kumusta na? mukhang nag research ka ata ?:rolleyes:

lahat yan binangit mo meron, pero walang mga

pornographiya :p si noah nagsasayaw na hubot hubad :eek: wala po yan


KASI GINGALANG NAMIN MG PROPHETA NG DIYOS

balikan mo mga post ko dito naipost ko na yan ayaw mo lang pansinin
tanong bakit nga ba meron din mga istorya na yan, pwede mo ba sagutin?

brief history lang:
-si muhammad ay ipinanganak sa isang mahirap na pamilya, Pagano ang kanyang kinamulatan. kaya kung ano ang iniikutan nila sa mecca halos ganun din sa mga pagano.
may nagtanong din sa iyo dimo pa sinasagot ano daw ba yung itim na bato na pinagkakaguluhan sa mecca

-ang mga pagano naniwala rin sa aral ni moses kaya nga diyan nagsimula ang paggawa ng mga rebulto sa dahilang ang paraan na eto ang maglalapit sa kanila sa isang anghel na syang may dala dala ng mensahe ng diyos.
ang isang tusong matsing gagawa at gagawa ng paraan, ayun sya daw ang nakausap ng anghel na nagngangalang gabriel. isang rapist ,mamamatay tao at pedopiliya kakausapin ng isang anghel? nakainom yata ng guapito dyus at ginagalang pa nila ang kanilang greatest prophet hehe

dsgamefowl
January 17th, 2010, 08:53 AM
balikan mo mga post ko dito naipost ko na yan ayaw mo lang pansinin
tanong bakit nga ba meron din mga istorya na yan, pwede mo ba sagutin?

brief history lang:
-si muhammad ay ipinanganak sa isang mahirap na pamilya, Pagano ang kanyang kinamulatan. kaya kung ano ang iniikutan nila sa mecca halos ganun din sa mga pagano.
may nagtanong din sa iyo dimo pa sinasagot ano daw ba yung itim na bato na pinagkakaguluhan sa mecca

-ang mga pagano naniwala rin sa aral ni moses kaya nga diyan nagsimula ang paggawa ng mga rebulto sa dahilang ang paraan na eto ang maglalapit sa kanila sa isang anghel na syang may dala dala ng mensahe ng diyos.
ang isang tusong matsing gagawa at gagawa ng paraan, ayun sya daw ang nakausap ng anghel na nagngangalang gabriel. isang rapist ,mamamatay tao at pedopiliya kakausapin ng isang anghel? nakainom yata ng guapito dyus at ginagalang pa nila ang kanilang greatest prophet hehe

Bro mga Propheta sila ng Diyos, sa Koran mo mababasa ang kompletong istorya nila :)

at dapat pag aralan mo for your information hindi panahon ni Moses nag umpisa pagsamba sa mga Rebulto

at hindi ko sasabihin sa iyo kasi lagi na lang ako ang nagtuturo sa inyo :p :D

naku nakakahiya yan SARADONG KATOLIKO ka ba ?

nicontrina
January 17th, 2010, 08:55 AM
in the Bible - ginawa niya ALAK ang 6 na bangga na tubig

in the Koran - pinagtanggol ang Nanay niya, baby siya nagsalita

naku paulit ulit na lang tayo
sino dapat namin paniwalaan? mga diipulo ni Jesus na sinasabi mong according to

o si no read no write na ipinanganak after 500 years na according to angel gabriel hehe

nicontrina
January 17th, 2010, 09:02 AM
Bro mga Propheta sila ng Diyos, sa Koran mo mababasa ang kompletong istorya nila :)

at dapat pag aralan mo for your information hindi panahon ni Moses nag umpisa pagsamba sa mga Rebulto

at hindi ko sasabihin sa iyo kasi lagi na lang ako ang nagtuturo sa inyo

naku nakakahiya yan SARADONG KATOLIKO ka ba ?



nakakatawa ka ano ba natutunan namin ke muhammad dito?

nagaral ka lang ng dagdag bawas na libro ni muhhamad sasabihin mo na magaling ka na sa bibliya? o di inamin mo nga galing din sa bibliya ang koran:D

nicontrina
January 17th, 2010, 09:31 AM
ha ha ha ha

yun Thanks giving bakit tuwing Decemeber lang dapat araw araw yan :)

wala akong galit kahit sa anong Relihiyon, in fact maraming akong kaibigan dito na hindi man muslim at hindi importante sa akin kung ano man relihiyon niya as long totoo siya

kahit ask ninyo sa thread namin kung nag open ako sa kanila regarding islam, puro chicken talk lang po :D

" NO COMPULSION IN RELIGION "


discussion lang po, kaso nagiging personal kung umiinit na ang usapin , ha ha ha

nakakatawa eto no compulsion in religion
ano ba parusa sa mga tumalikod sa aral ni muhammad?

talaga naman si muhammad puro kabaliktaran
sa kristiyano ang aral- maniwala lang kayo sa kanya magkakaroon kayo ng buhay na walang hanggan
sa muslim ang aral- kalaban ni alah ang mga hindi maniniwala, saan man nyo sila makikita ay inyong patayin:D

LEO23
January 17th, 2010, 10:04 AM
nakakatawa eto no compulsion in religion
ano ba parusa sa mga tumalikod sa aral ni muhammad?

talaga naman si muhammad puro kabaliktaran
sa kristiyano ang aral- maniwala lang kayo sa kanya magkakaroon kayo ng buhay na walang hanggan
sa muslim ang aral- kalaban ni alah ang mga hindi maniniwala, saan man nyo sila makikita ay inyong patayin:D


Brod Nic ingat ka at muslim na yang kabalitaktakan mo, baka magkita kayo sa ruweda.

grey/dom
January 17th, 2010, 11:53 AM
tapos na kami mag sinulog at kumain ng lechon at uminom ng wine....naniwala pala sila na gumawa ng wine si Hesus...e bakit di ipainom? mga lider lang yata ang gusto uminom...
batong itim sa buwan....ang galing ng magnet...lahat sila doon nakaharap daw...e bilog ang mundo...paano ba yon? baka flat pa rin paniwala sa kanila...:D

abraham at ismael....sa batong itim? ako ay naguguluhan....bulalakaw bulalakaw...sinasamba wala pa si mohammad...:)

ay sila pa daw gumawa ng bahay sa bato....sa lumilitaw na bato...paano kung magiba? saan na magdasal sila?

grey/dom
January 17th, 2010, 12:08 PM
"The Black Stone has been described variously as basalt lava, an agate, a piece of natural glass or — most popularly — a stony meteorite. It is evidently a hard rock, having survived so much handling. A significant clue to its nature is provided by an account of the stone's recovery in 951 AD after it had been stolen 21 years earlier; according to a chronicler, the stone was identified by its ability to float in water. If this account is accurate, it would rule out the stone being an agate, basalt lava or stony meteorite, though it would be compatible with it being glass or pumice."

I'd really have to see and touch the stone myself to be more certain. Other possibilities include amphibolite and pyroxenite that are quite popular in use as polished dimension stone. These two rock types are even denser than basalt and wouldn't float on lava much less in water.

However, the wear on the stone depicted by wikipedia is more suggestive of iron rich material or perhaps glass than agate, basalt or especially pumice. Dulling with time is typical of base metals. Pumice is highly vesicular and cannot shine. Basalt polished in weather is typically granular beneath the polish. Agate has evident colour banding. Even sard, although the right colour for the rock in the wikipedia photogragh, is far too hard and not reactive enough to wear in the way the stone depicted has. Tektites (glass rich impact artifacts) are typically round but the ones I've seen are much smaller. Glass is also much more prone to etching and chemical wear than materials like basalt and agate.

Amber is the only material that can display the colour and polish of this stone (as per wikipedia photogragh) *and* float although only on salt water. Unlike all the other rock types mentioned, amber is a poorer conductor of heat and so feels relatively warm to the touch when kept in the shade. If anyone knows someone who has touched the Black Stone, it is worth asking whether it felt warm or cold to the touch.

dsgamefowl
January 17th, 2010, 05:13 PM
Brod Nic ingat ka at muslim na yang kabalitaktakan mo, baka magkita kayo sa ruweda.

Bro LEO, kahit anong pang sabihin ni Bro nic ok lang karapatan niya yon pero alam ko naman kung totoo mga sinasabi niya o MALI :D :p


Bro GD, kailan nagumpisa sumamba mga tao sa Rebulto? panahon ni Moses (pbuh) ba?

ha ha ha ha

mag research ka pa

dsgamefowl
January 17th, 2010, 05:26 PM
basa muna tayo

sulat ni MALCOM X



“Never have I witnessed such sincere hospitality and overwhelming spirit of true brotherhood as is practiced by people of all colors and races here in this ancient Holy Land, the home of Abraham, Muhammad and all the other Prophets of the Holy Scriptures. For the past week, I have been utterly speechless and spellbound by the graciousness I see displayed all around me by people of all colors.
“I have been blessed to visit the Holy City of Mecca, I have made my seven circuits around the Ka’ba, led by a young Mutawaf named Muhammad, I drank water from the well of the Zam Zam. I ran seven times back and forth between the hills of Mt. Al-Safa and Al Marwah. I have prayed in the ancient city of Mina, and I have prayed on Mt. Arafat.
“There were tens of thousands of pilgrims, from all over the world. They were of all colors, from blue-eyed blondes to black-skinned Africans. But we were all participating in the same ritual, displaying a spirit of unity and brotherhood that my experiences in America had led me to believe never could exist between the white and non-white.
“America needs to understand Islam, because this is the one religion that erases from its society the race problem. Throughout my travels in the Muslim world, I have met, talked to, and even eaten with people who in America would have been considered white - but the white attitude was removed from their minds by the religion of Islam. I have never before seen sincere and true brotherhood practiced by all colors together, irrespective of their color.


“You may be shocked by these words coming from me. But on this pilgrimage, what I have seen, and experienced, has forced me to rearrange much of my thought-patterns previously held, and to toss aside some of my previous conclusions. This was not too difficult for me. Despite my firm convictions, I have always been a man who tries to face facts, and to accept the reality of life as new experience and new knowledge unfolds it. I have always kept an open mind, which is necessary to the flexibility that must go hand in hand with every form of intelligent search for truth.

dsgamefowl
January 17th, 2010, 05:33 PM
“During the past eleven days here in the Muslim world, I have eaten from the same plate, drunk from the same glass, and slept on the same rug - while praying to the same God - with fellow Muslims, whose eyes were the bluest of blue, whose hair was the blondest of blond, and whose skin was the whitest of white. And in the words and in the deeds of the white Muslims, I felt the same sincerity that I felt among the black African Muslims of Nigeria, Sudan and Ghana.
“We were truly all the same (brothers) - because their belief in one God had removed the white from their minds, the white from their behavior, and the white from their attitude.
“I could see from this, that perhaps if white Americans could accept the Oneness of God, then perhaps, too, they could accept in reality the Oneness of Man - and cease to measure, and hinder, and harm others in terms of their ‘differences’ in color.
“With racism plaguing America like an incurable cancer, the so-called ‘Christian’ white American heart should be more receptive to a proven solution to such a destructive problem. Perhaps it could be in time to save America from imminent disaster - the same destruction brought upon Germany by racism that eventually destroyed the Germans themselves.


“Each hour here in the Holy Land enables me to have greater spiritual insights into what is happening in America between black and white. The American Negro never can be blamed for his racial animosities - he is only reacting to four hundred years of the conscious racism of the American whites. But as racism leads America up the suicide path, I do believe, from the experiences that I have had with them, that the whites of the younger generation, in the colleges and universities, will see the handwriting on the walls and many of them will turn to the spiritual path of truth - the only way left to America to ward off the disaster that racism inevitably must lead to.

nicontrina
January 17th, 2010, 06:07 PM
basa muna tayo

sulat ni MALCOM X



“Never have I witnessed such sincere hospitality and overwhelming spirit of true brotherhood as is practiced by people of all colors and races here in this ancient Holy Land, the home of Abraham, Muhammad and all the other Prophets of the Holy Scriptures. For the past week, I have been utterly speechless and spellbound by the graciousness I see displayed all around me by people of all colors.
“I have been blessed to visit the Holy City of Mecca, I have made my seven circuits around the Ka’ba, led by a young Mutawaf named Muhammad, I drank water from the well of the Zam Zam. I ran seven times back and forth between the hills of Mt. Al-Safa and Al Marwah. I have prayed in the ancient city of Mina, and I have prayed on Mt. Arafat.
“There were tens of thousands of pilgrims, from all over the world. They were of all colors, from blue-eyed blondes to black-skinned Africans. But we were all participating in the same ritual, displaying a spirit of unity and brotherhood that my experiences in America had led me to believe never could exist between the white and non-white.
“America needs to understand Islam, because this is the one religion that erases from its society the race problem. Throughout my travels in the Muslim world, I have met, talked to, and even eaten with people who in America would have been considered white - but the white attitude was removed from their minds by the religion of Islam. I have never before seen sincere and true brotherhood practiced by all colors together, irrespective of their color.


“You may be shocked by these words coming from me. But on this pilgrimage, what I have seen, and experienced, has forced me to rearrange much of my thought-patterns previously held, and to toss aside some of my previous conclusions. This was not too difficult for me. Despite my firm convictions, I have always been a man who tries to face facts, and to accept the reality of life as new experience and new knowledge unfolds it. I have always kept an open mind, which is necessary to the flexibility that must go hand in hand with every form of intelligent search for truth.

totoo ba yang highlight mo hahaha
sa mga kaso ng mga OFW diyan laban sa kanilang kalahi
wala ba sila kinakampihan?

dsgamefowl
January 17th, 2010, 07:52 PM
:) tawa na lang ako Bro Nic, ganda naman yan hawak mo kahit di masyadong kita



alam mo yan maraming kaso ng mga Pilipino laban sa mga arabo nanalo at may mga nabigyan pa ng pardon


recently isang kababayan ko taga Zamboanga City nakulong dahil sa nakitang Scandals sa Cellphone

ayun mahigit 6 months nakulong at nakauwi "LIBRENG TICKET"

40+ sila mga badingar Z - ha ha ha ha


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_the_United_States

OREVON
January 17th, 2010, 08:24 PM
Napadaan lang mga brader.........

Medyo mahaba haba na rin ang balitaktakan natin dito ah?

Bro khelly tinatanong ni haydol Jun Dizon kung tuloy daw ang entry ng HARD FACTS BELIEVERS sa paderby nya sa March 23? Sabi ko tatanungin ko pa si bro khelly at bro johndi.

1 manok kay bro khelly
1 manok kay bro johndi
1 manok sa kin

baka may gusto pumago sa mga pumapasyal dito................

grey/dom
January 17th, 2010, 08:44 PM
Bro LEO, kahit anong pang sabihin ni Bro nic ok lang karapatan niya yon pero alam ko naman kung totoo mga sinasabi niya o MALI :D :p


Bro GD, kailan nagumpisa sumamba mga tao sa Rebulto? panahon ni Moses (pbuh) ba?

ha ha ha ha

mag research ka pa

isa lang tanong ko...nakalista ba sa koran nyo ang black stone na yan? denial stage kayo palage...sanay kayo dyan...

grey/dom
January 17th, 2010, 09:00 PM
Bible Possibly Written Centuries Earlier, Text Suggests
livescience.com – Fri Jan 15, 9:40 am ET
Scientists have discovered the earliest known Hebrew writing - an inscription dating from the 10th century B.C., during the period of King David's reign.


The breakthrough could mean that portions of the Bible were written centuries earlier than previously thought. (The Bible's Old Testament is thought to have been first written down in an ancient form of Hebrew.)


Until now, many scholars have held that the Hebrew Bible originated in the 6th century B.C., because Hebrew writing was thought to stretch back no further. But the newly deciphered Hebrew text is about four centuries older, scientists announced this month.


"It indicates that the Kingdom of Israel already existed in the 10th century BCE and that at least some of the biblical texts were written hundreds of years before the dates presented in current research," said Gershon Galil, a professor of Biblical Studies at the University of Haifa in Israel, who deciphered the ancient text.


BCE stands for "before common era," and is equivalent to B.C., or before Christ.


The writing was discovered more than a year ago on a pottery shard dug up during excavations at Khirbet Qeiyafa, near Israel's Elah valley. The excavations were carried out by archaeologist Yosef Garfinkel of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. At first, scientists could not tell if the writing was Hebrew or some other local language.


Finally, Galil was able to decipher the text. He identified words particular to the Hebrew language and content specific to Hebrew culture to prove that the writing was, in fact, Hebrew.


"It uses verbs that were characteristic of Hebrew, such as asah ('did') and avad ('worked'), which were rarely used in other regional languages," Galil said. "Particular words that appear in the text, such as almanah ('widow') are specific to Hebrew and are written differently in other local languages."


The ancient text is written in ink on a trapezoid-shaped piece of pottery about 6 inches by 6.5 inches (15 cm by 16.5 cm). It appears to be a social statement about how people should treat slaves, widows and orphans. In English, it reads (by numbered line):





The content, which has some missing letters, is similar to some Biblical scriptures, such as Isaiah 1:17, Psalms 72:3, and Exodus 23:3, but does not appear to be copied from any Biblical text.

dsgamefowl
January 17th, 2010, 11:11 PM
isa lang tanong ko...nakalista ba sa koran nyo ang black stone na yan? denial stage kayo palage...sanay kayo dyan...


Bro GD, hindi po binanggit sa koran yan black stone na yan at walang kabanalan yan at higit sa lahat HINDI PO MAHALAGA yan sa pananampalatayang Islam

hanapin mo kung ano ang sinabi ng Propheta (saw) tungkol dyan sa black stone na yan

dsgamefowl
January 17th, 2010, 11:17 PM
Napadaan lang mga brader.........

Medyo mahaba haba na rin ang balitaktakan natin dito ah?

Bro khelly tinatanong ni haydol Jun Dizon kung tuloy daw ang entry ng HARD FACTS BELIEVERS sa paderby nya sa March 23? Sabi ko tatanungin ko pa si bro khelly at bro johndi.

1 manok kay bro khelly
1 manok kay bro johndi
1 manok sa kin

baka may gusto pumago sa mga pumapasyal dito................


sa akin walang problema basta may mag condition lang ng maayos sa manok pwede ko ipadala sa February 1st week meron naka precon doon at may dalang M-60 tapos may nakakabit pa na C-4 ha ha ha

minimum lang tayo Sir Orevon





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sana pumago sila Bro BL, Bro GD, Bro Wrigs at Bro Nic, at mga iba pang Believers

ironchef
January 17th, 2010, 11:47 PM
Bro GD, hindi po binanggit sa koran yan black stone na yan at walang kabanalan yan at higit sa lahat HINDI PO MAHALAGA yan sa pananampalatayang Islam

hanapin mo kung ano ang sinabi ng Propheta (saw) tungkol dyan sa black stone na yan


The Black Stone

This is the site where circumambulation starts, at the south-eastern corner of the Holy Ka'bah. Its origin is the Sapphires of Paradise, its hidden corner is white like the colour of Abrahams Station. It is the place where Muslims repent of their sins and ask Allah's forgiveness. It is a customary practice to touch and kiss it. The Black Stone will be a witness on the Judgement Day to all Muslims who have touched and kissed it in sincerity. It is the spot which has been kissed by the Prophets, Hajj and Umrah pilgrims and visitors. (12, 14, v. 3, pp. 12-31)

source: The Index of the Annexes of the Holy Ka'bah
and its Other Aspects

dsgamefowl
January 18th, 2010, 12:20 AM
The Black Stone

This is the site where circumambulation starts, at the south-eastern corner of the Holy Ka'bah. Its origin is the Sapphires of Paradise, its hidden corner is white like the colour of Abrahams Station. It is the place where Muslims repent of their sins and ask Allah's forgiveness. It is a customary practice to touch and kiss it. The Black Stone will be a witness on the Judgement Day to all Muslims who have touched and kissed it in sincerity. It is the spot which has been kissed by the Prophets, Hajj and Umrah pilgrims and visitors. (12, 14, v. 3, pp. 12-31)


kissing the black stone is like kissing your Grandmas hands hindi po form of worship it is a form of "RESPECT"

sir Ironchef kumusta na po kayo? salamat sa pag drop by

not all performing Hajj or Umrah kiss the black stone it is not OBLIGATORY

sa Islam yan ay simplent bato po lamang walang kabanalan



source: The Index of the Annexes of the Holy Ka'bah
and its Other Aspects

RKfarm
January 18th, 2010, 01:05 AM
[QUOTE=dsgamefowl]ikaw ang dapat umunawa sa mga versikulo ibinigay mo

ibig mong sabihin "KAHIT ANONG PAPASOK SA BUNGANGA AY OK LANG ? "

ano ba naman yan gamitin mo naman ang common sense mo malinaw sa lumang tipan ang batas na pagbabawal na kumain ng baboy at sa bagong tipan naman sinabi ni Hesus

17Huwag ninyong isiping naparito ako upang sirain ang Kautusan o ang mga Propeta. Naparito ako hindi upang sirain kundi upang tuparin ang mga ito.

18Katotohanang sinasabi ko sa inyo: Lilipas ang langit at ang lupa ngunit kahit isang tuldok o isang kudlit sa Kautusan ay hindi lilipas sa anumang paraan hanggang matupad ang lahat.

Hay sus,,napakakitid nman ng pag-iisip??parang parehas na rin yata ng mga saudi...ika ngaý mafih mok...he,he,he,he,he,...
ung ibig sabihin ng nagpaparumi diyan sa versikulo ay ipagkakasala at di magiging kalugod-lugod ng tao sa diyos.

dito nman sa sinabi ni Hesus:
Mat. 4:17 Huwag ninyong isiping naparito ako upang sirain ang Kautusan o ang mga Propeta. Naparito ako hindi upang sirain kundi upang ipaliwanag at ganapin ang mga ito.
---malinaw namn na sinasabi rito na ang kautusan na ibinigay sa lumang tipan ay kanyang ipinaliwanag sa pamamagitan ng mga sermon o turo kung saang kaparaanan ang isang tao ay magkakasala at di magiging kalugod-lugod sa diyos. Basahin mo ang Mat. Chapter 5 to 15.
Mat. 4:18Katotohanang sinasabi ko sa inyo: Lilipas ang langit at ang lupa ngunit ang kaliit-liitang bahagi ng kautusan ay di mawawalan ng bisa hangga't hindi nagaganap ang lahat.
---may sinasabi dito na "di mawawalan ng bisa hangga't hindi nagaganap ang lahat".
Ano nga ba ang hindi pa nagaganap habang si Hesus ay nagtuturo at gumawa ng mga himala?kung babasahin mo sa bibliya ito ay ang kanyang pagkapako sa krus at pagkabuhay niyang muli (Mat. Chapter 26-28).
sa misteryo at misyon ng buhay ni Hesus na siyang Messiah,nasusulat na siya ang kaganapan ng mga hula ng mga naunang propeta na nakapaloob sa lumang tipan. Pinatunayan ito sa Bagong Tipan, Mat.26:56 Ngunit nangyaring lahat ito upang matupad ang sinulat ng mga Propeta.

RKfarm
January 18th, 2010, 01:40 AM
[QUOTE=dsgamefowl]4Patungkol sa mga pagkaing inihain sa mga diyos-diyosan, alam nating walang halaga ang diyos-diyosan sa sanlibutan. Alam nating wala nang ibang Diyos maliban sa isa.



5Sapagkat maraming mga tinatawag na diyos sa langit man o sa lupa, maraming diyos, maraming panginoon.

6Subalit para sa atin iisa lamang ang Diyos, ang Ama.


Akala ko bro DS di ka naniniwala sa aral na isinulat ni Pablo,,,amininnnnnnnnnnnnn......
bakit di mo itinuloy ung Verse 6???

Isulat ko para sayo:

1Corinthian 8:6 Sa ganang atin ay iisa lamang ang Diyos, Ang Ama na Lumikha ng lahat ng bagay, at tayoý nabubuhay para sa kanya.Iisa ang Panginoon, si Jesu-Cristo, at sa pamamagitan niyaý nilikha ang lahat ng bagay at sa pamamagitan din niyaý nabubuhay tayo.

Ito isa pang aral para sayo:

1Corinthian 8:8 Hindi dahil sa pagkain kaya tayo nagiging kalugod-lugod sa Diyos. Walang mawawala sa atin kung hindi tayo kumain ng gayon o ganitong pagkain, at wala ring kabutihang maidudulot sa atin kung tayo maý kumain niyon.

dsgamefowl
January 18th, 2010, 01:41 AM
[quote=dsgamefowl]
Hay sus,,napakakitid nman ng pag-iisip??parang parehas na rin yata ng mga saudi...ika ngaý mafih mok...he,he,he,he,he,...


sa misteryo at misyon ng buhay ni Hesus na siyang Messiah,nasusulat na siya ang kaganapan ng mga hula ng mga naunang propeta na nakapaloob sa lumang tipan. Pinatunayan ito sa Bagong Tipan, Mat.26:56 Ngunit nangyaring lahat ito upang matupad ang sinulat ng mga Propeta.


ha ha ha sino kaya ang Walang Utak ?:D bobo pa kahit anong papasok sa bunganga ok lang sige nga subukan natin ang PANIS na pagkain na kinakain ng BABOY kainin mo nga kung MALINIS ewan ko lang sigurado ER bagsak mo !


hindi mo ba alam ang nakasulat sa OLD Testament ibig sabihin ang NA UNANG BATAS
na BAWAL KAININ o HAWAKAN man lang

KARUMALDUMAL pa ang pagsabi

Tama ka Bro totoo ang Hula sa mga sinabi ni Jesus(pbuh)

kaya umpisan mo na magisip isip

Mateo 15:9 (Ang Salita ng Diyos)

9Walang kabuluhan
ang pagsamba nila sa akin. Ang aral na
kanilang itinuturo ay mga kautusan ng mga tao.


ligtas kame dito kasi hindi namin siya sinasamba
ikaw Bro ligtas ka ba ? :D


Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven; but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven. Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.’ (NASB) Matthew 7:21-23


yan ang problema puro mysteryo - ha ha ha

dsgamefowl
January 18th, 2010, 01:47 AM
[quote=dsgamefowl]4Patungkol sa mga pagkaing inihain sa mga diyos-diyosan, alam nating walang halaga ang diyos-diyosan sa sanlibutan. Alam nating wala nang ibang Diyos maliban sa isa.



5Sapagkat maraming mga tinatawag na diyos sa langit man o sa lupa, maraming diyos, maraming panginoon.

6Subalit para sa atin iisa lamang ang Diyos, ang Ama.


Akala ko bro DS di ka naniniwala sa aral na isinulat ni Pablo,,,amininnnnnnnnnnnnn......
bakit di mo itinuloy ung Verse 6???

Isulat ko para sayo:

1Corinthian 8:6 Sa ganang atin ay iisa lamang ang Diyos, Ang Ama na Lumikha ng lahat ng bagay, at tayoý nabubuhay para sa kanya.Iisa ang Panginoon, si Jesu-Cristo, at sa pamamagitan niyaý nilikha ang lahat ng bagay at sa pamamagitan din niyaý nabubuhay tayo.

Ito isa pang aral para sayo:

1Corinthian 8:8 Hindi dahil sa pagkain kaya tayo nagiging kalugod-lugod sa Diyos. Walang mawawala sa atin kung hindi tayo kumain ng gayon o ganitong pagkain, at wala ring kabutihang maidudulot sa atin kung tayo maý kumain niyon.


salamat sa pagsulat - sinabi ko ba sa pagkain na kalugod lugod tayo sa Diyos?

sabi ko BAWAL Kainin ang Karneng BABOY - ikaw ang pumipilit na malinis kasi sabi mo
kung ano ang pumapasok sa bunganga hindi ito marumi kundi ang lumalabas

ito ang initndihin mo ang ibig sabihin niyan mga SALITANG MARURUMI, MGA MURA at KASINUNGALINGAN at wag kalimutan ang Tsimis yan ang tinawag sa english

ACCORDING TO - tsismis yan


ha ha ha ha

ironchef
January 18th, 2010, 01:48 AM
Greetings kaibigang dsg. peace be w/ you,

A year ago i received a book of the Quran from a friend at work from lebanon, i despises myself for not reading it to atleast be educated about the faith. i am in the process of seeking enlightenment. as to the kissing is not much of an inquiry as the higlight does not focused on it, but being the place where Muslims repent of their sins & ask Allah's forgiveness truly denotes something holy & has a spiritual significance among practioner of islam, if it is something that is just a piece of stone & has no spiritual significance then why is this a place where repentance of sins takes place?


The four corners were part of the Holy Ka'bah


Hijir Ismail (peace be upon him)

It is the curved section to the north of the Holy Ka'bah on the side of the waterspout. It is called Al-Hateem because a part of it was demolished when Quraish reduced the area of the House while reconstructing it. It is a marbled area w/ a wall in the form of a semi-circle with an eastern & a western opening. It is about 1/2 metres high & has three lanterns for lighting & decoration.


A part of it amounting to three cubits & a hand span is considered as a part of the Holy Ka'bah. It has been renovated more than 25 times. It was called the graves of the virgins of Ismail's family. It was said that Ismail (peace be upon him) & his mother Hajir were buried there. It was also said that the spot under the waterspout was a place where supplications were answered.

AI-Multazam

It is called Al-Muda'a & AI-Mutawwaz. It is the part that lies between the corner of the Black Stone & the door of the Holy Ka'bah. It is the place where Muslims cling to in submissiveness and supplication to Allah, It's said that prayers are answered in this place.

AI-Mustajar

It is also called AI-Mutawwaz or AI-Mustatjab. It lies between the Yemeni corner & the closed door at the back of the Holy Ka'bah. It is called AI-Multazarn of the elderly of Quraish. It is also a place where supplications are answered by Allah.

AI-Hateem

Hijir Ismail (peace be upon him) is called AI-Hateem. It also included the area between the Black Stone, Abraham's Station & Zamzam Well. It is the place where sins are forgiven.


corrections & enlightenment would be highly appreciated kaibigan.

dsgamefowl
January 18th, 2010, 02:06 AM
Greetings kaibigang dsg., peace be w/ you...

A year ago i received a book of the Quran from a friend at work from lebanon, i despises myself for not reading it to atleast be educated about the faith..i am in the process of seeking enlightenment..as to the kissing is not much of an inquiry as the higlight does not focused on it, but being the place where Muslims repent of their sins & ask Allah's forgiveness truly denotes something holy and has a spiritual significance among practioner of islam, if it is something that is just a piece of stone & has no spiritual significance then why is this a place where repentance of sins takes place?





nice you have one , kaibigan Ironchef Salaam

tama po mga post niyo ragarding the 4 corners

ito ang problema sa mga muslim ngayon gumagawa sila ng mga inovations

lahat ng Area sa Masjid Al Haram - ay tinatanggap ang mga panalangin
ng Diyos


According to Muslim belief, the Black Stone was found by Abraham (Ibrahim) and his son Ishmael (Ismail) when they were searching for stones with which to build the Kaaba. They recognized its worth and made it one of the building's cornerstones.
Secular historians point to the history of stone worship, and especially meteorite worship, in pre-Islamic Arabia, and say that it is likely that the Stone is a meteorite. But of course this hypothesis cannot be tested without removing and examining the Stone, which would not be permitted by its guardians.
Within Islam, there are various opinions as to the status and meaning of the Black Stone. Many regard the Stone as "just a stone."

When Umar ibn al-Khattab, the second Caliph, came to kiss the stone, he said, in front of all assembled: "No doubt, I know that you are a stone and can neither harm anyone nor benefit anyone. Had I not seen Allah's Messenger kissing you, I would not have kissed you."

Many Muslims follow Umar: they pay their respects to the Black Stone in a spirit of trust in Muhammad, not with any belief in the Black Stone itself. Some say that the stone is best considered as a marker, useful in keeping count of the ritual circumambulations one has performed (tawaf).


Bro Ironchef, may God almighty guide you to the right path


Amen


some of muslims today commits bida'a (innovations)

dsgamefowl
January 18th, 2010, 02:22 AM
The hindus glorification of stones and rocks is not Islamic. We do not worship neither the Kaaba nor the black stone. In fact Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, said in his famous saying that:


لهدم الكعبة حجراً حجراً أهون من قتل المسلم‏

"Demolishing the Kaaba completely is much more preferred to Allah Almighty than shedding the blood of a Believing Muslim."



For ye do worship idols besides God, and ye invent falsehood. The things that ye worship besides God have no power to give you sustenance: then seek ye sustenance from God, serve Him, and be grateful to Him: to Him will be your return. (The Noble Quran, 29:17)"


"And he said: "For you, ye have taken (for worship) idols besides God, out of mutual love and regard between yourselves in this life; but on the Day of Judgment ye shall disown each other and curse each other: and your abode will be the Fire, and ye shall have none to help." (The Noble Quran, 29:25)"


"And they set up (idols) as equal to God, to mislead (men) from the Path! Say: "Enjoy (your brief power)! But verily ye are making straightway for Hell!" (The Noble Quran, 14:30)"


"Remember Abraham said: "O my Lord! make this city one of peace and security: and preserve me and my sons from worshipping idols. (The Noble Quran, 14:35)"

this is a very strong verses that we muslim are worshiping any idols or stone

hope naliwanagan kayo kaibigan Ironchef :)

ironchef
January 18th, 2010, 02:24 AM
Maraming salamat sa iyong tugon kaibigang dsg.,

There is no greater conflict w/in me at the present that bothers me the most is the saying that..."Islam is a religion where God or Allah requires you to send your sons to die for him while Christianity is a religion wherein God sent his son to die for you and for me!".....please enlighten me on this that i may find peace!..maraming salamat

dsgamefowl
January 18th, 2010, 02:52 AM
Maraming salamat sa iyong tugon kaibigang dsg.,

There is no greater conflict w/in me at the present that bothers me the most is the saying that..."Islam is a religion where God or Allah requires you to send your sons to die for him while Christianity is a religion wherein God sent his son to die for you and for me!".....please enlighten me on this that i may find peace!..maraming salamat

sensya na kaibigan Ironchef, medyo busy ang server


first subject : we need the source where you get the ideas that God Almighty requires our son to die for him


ito po ba ang link

http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/134026



second subject : God sent his son to die for us ? i don't think so

God Almighty will send his Begotten Son just to die for our sins? we will talk about this after the first subject

I will proved to you that God didn't send Jesus(pbuh) to die

infact he save him - when Jesus(pbuh) prayed for help

I talk about this with Bro EuroF1 and he stop asking means he accepted that indeed God save Jesus(pbuh)

ironchef
January 18th, 2010, 03:15 AM
that is only one of the many links....


"And if ye die or are slain in the way of Allah, forgiveness and mercy from Allah are far better than all they could amass: and if ye die, or are slain, Lo! it is unto Allah that ye are brought together," (3:157-8 [Cf. 2:153]) and "Those who leave their homes in the cause of Allah, and are then slain or die;--on them will Allah bestow verily a goodly Provision. Verily He will admit them to a place with which they shall be well pleased." (22:58-9).


Do I have to die for Allah to attain eternal life and salvation?
pls. help!

dsgamefowl
January 18th, 2010, 03:36 AM
"And if ye die or are slain in the way of Allah, forgiveness and mercy from Allah are far better than all they could amass: and if ye die, or are slain, Lo! it is unto Allah that ye are brought together," (3:157-8 [Cf. 2:153]) and "Those who leave their homes in the cause of Allah, and are then slain or die;--on them will Allah bestow verily a goodly Provision. Verily He will admit them to a place with which they shall be well pleased." (22:58-9).


Do I have to die for Allah to attain eternal life and salvation?
pls. help!


kaibigan Ironchef, try to Read the context



003.156 O ye who believe! Be not like the Unbelievers, who say of their brethren, when they are travelling through the Earth or engaged in fighting: "If they had stayed with us, they would not have died, or been slain." This that God may make it a cause of sighs and regrets in their hearts. It is God that gives Life and Death, and God sees well all that ye do.




003.157 And if ye are slain, or die, in the way of God ( this is the time when muslim fights for Allah (swt) not fighting for a piece of land, personal interest, political etc.,forgiveness and mercy from God are far better than all they could amass.




003.158 And if ye die, or are slain, Lo! it is unto God that ye are brought together.

quote niyo po 2:153


002.153 O ye who believe! Seek help with patient perseverance and prayer; for God is with those who patiently persevere.









022.058 Those who leave their homes in the cause of God, and are then slain or die,- On them will God bestow verily a goodly Provision: Truly God is He Who bestows the best provision.



022.059 Verily He will admit them to a place with which they shall be well pleased: for God is All-Knowing, Most Forbearing.


hindi lang para sa digmaan ang verse na ito kaibigan


kung ikaw ay papunta sa isang mosque at ang intention mo is to pray at na aksidente ka - God will bestow his BEST provision




hindi po kailangan ikaw mamatay o magpakamatay just to be saved




God is Merciful

ironchef
January 18th, 2010, 03:54 AM
Maraming maraming salamat sa iyong katugunan kaibigang dsb,


Subalit marami sa ating mga kapatiran ang nahahalina sa kontextong ito...it cannot be denied that the above guarantees salvation and eternal life by just dying and being slain in the way of allah...to some, they considered "why persevere while salvation can be attain by doing the former just as that?!"

dsgamefowl
January 18th, 2010, 03:59 AM
"Nay-whoever submits his whole self to Allah(swt)and is a doer of good He will get his reward with his Lord; on such shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

(The Noble Quran, 2:112)" He is also the Most Merciful and Most Forgiving; see Noble Verses 2:163, 2:173, 3:89, 2:199, 3:155, 4:17

dsgamefowl
January 18th, 2010, 04:08 AM
Maraming maraming salamat sa iyong katugunan kaibigang dsb,


Subalit marami sa ating mga kapatiran ang nahahalina sa kontextong ito...it cannot be denied that the above guarantees salvation and eternal life by just dying and being slain in the way of allah...to some, they considered "why persevere while salvation can be attain by doing the former just as that?!"...

kaya maraming mga kapatid kong mga muslim natitisod dahil sa mga maling interpretations niladapat talaga may knowledge ka at dapat hindi lang isang - dalawang verses ang babasahin try to read and learn more about Islam

With open mind and open heart

bluelegged
January 18th, 2010, 04:15 AM
BRO DS MUSTA NA?

MGA BRO, SINO2 BA SA INYO ANG HUMAHALIK SA BLACK STONE O SA KAHOY NA DI NATEN ALAM KUNG YAN E DATING POSTE NG MERALCO?:eek:

ANG SABI SA MGA CURSILLO HAUS, WAG HAHALIK SA MGA REBULTO LALO NA ANG KAHOY AT BAKA YAN AY POSTE NGA NG MERALCO DATI NAIHIAN NA NG MGA ASO AT TAO:eek: ....WAG NYO SABIHING HINDI SINABI YAN NG MGA PASTOR SA LOOB NG 'CURSILLO' HEHEHEHE

dsgamefowl
January 18th, 2010, 04:19 AM
And they plotted to kill Jesus and God planned too. And God is the Best of the planners.” (Quran 3:54)


“And because of their boasting, "We killed Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, the Messenger of God." But they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of Jesus was put over another man, and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge; they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely, they killed him not. But God raised him Jesus up unto Himself. And God is Ever All­ Powerful, All­ Wise.” (Quran 4:157)


need to sleep na po kaibigan, God Bless

seek the Truth, it will set you Free

:)

ironchef
January 18th, 2010, 04:22 AM
Kaibigang dsg,

Labis labis kong ikinagagalak ang kapanayam ka ukol sa usaping ito...looking forward sa pagpapatuloy nito...oras na ng aking pamamahinga at maraming salamat sa iyong mga katugunan...ipagpaumanhin ang kapangahasan ng isang tulad kong nananaliksik po lamang...Bro. IC :)

dsgamefowl
January 18th, 2010, 04:25 AM
BRO DS MUSTA NA?

MGA BRO, SINO2 BA SA INYO ANG HUMAHALIK SA BLACK STONE O SA KAHOY NA DI NATEN ALAM KUNG YAN E DATING POSTE NG MERALCO?:eek:

ANG SABI SA MGA CURSILLO HAUS, WAG HAHALIK SA MGA REBULTO LALO NA ANG KAHOY AT BAKA YAN AY POSTE NGA NG MERALCO DATI NAIHIAN NA NG MGA ASO AT TAO:eek: ....WAG NYO SABIHING HINDI SINABI YAN NG MGA PASTOR SA LOOB NG 'CURSILLO' HEHEHEHE

Bro BL ayos lang ikaw musta na mukhang mapalaban manok ko sa Pampanga he he he, hindi ko po hinahalikan hindi po obligatory halikan ang black stone

sabi nga kahit wala na ang black stone o kahit ang ka'ba basta alam namin ang direction doon pa rin kame haharap pag magdasal

RKfarm
January 18th, 2010, 04:26 AM
[QUOTE=dsgamefowl][quote=RKfarm]


ha ha ha sino kaya ang Walang Utak ?:D bobo pa kahit anong papasok sa bunganga ok lang sige nga subukan natin ang PANIS na pagkain na kinakain ng BABOY kainin mo nga kung MALINIS ewan ko lang sigurado ER bagsak mo !

Hay sus,,mas malala ka pa pala sa mga saudi na nakakasama mo diyan sa KSA..mok karban,,,he,he,he,he,...
bro intindihin mo mabuti,,di ko sinabi na ang laman ng tao ang dudumi,kundi yung kalagayan natin sa mata ng diyos...Ang relihiyong Kristiyano at Islam ang pinag-uusapan natin..kung saan may mga kautusan ng pagbabawal ng pagkain as in food ay sa Islam..

sa koran ba may bawal na nakasulat na di puedeng kainin ang panis na kanin??,,
wala nman di ba,kaya kumakain ka siguro ng panis...wahhhhhh,ha,ha,ha,ha,...


hindi mo ba alam ang nakasulat sa OLD Testament ibig sabihin ang NA UNANG BATAS
na BAWAL KAININ o HAWAKAN man lang

KARUMALDUMAL pa ang pagsabi

-Alamin mo kasi kung ano ang ibig sabihin ng sinabi niya doon sa Mat.4:18,,,,,"di mawawalan ng bisa hangga't di nagaganap ang lahat"
kung di mo maintindihan yn ay umuwi ka na sa atin at paturo ka sa mga titser mo,,,anlakas nman makahawa ng mga saudi diyan,,,kulo mafih mok....he,he,he,he,.

Alam mo pala ang nakasulat sa OLD Testament at ito rin ang pinagbabatayan niyo,,Sabihin mo na rin sa mga Kapatid mong Saudi diyan na bawal kumain ng Kamelyo at Kuneho dahil nasusulat din ito sa mga hayop na bawal kainin ayon sa NAUNANG BATAS...Ikaw bro DS,,dami mo na yatang nakain na kamelyo at kuneho,,hala ka,makasalanan ka na rin..

Ang Sabi ni Hesus,,,Mga Mapag-imbabaw!!! Kayo na nabubuhay sa kautusan.

Tama ka Bro totoo ang Hula sa mga sinabi ni Jesus(pbuh)

kasi hindi namin siya sinasamba [/COLOR][/SIZE]
ikaw Bro ligtas ka ba ? :D

Ang Kaligtasan ko ay ang aking Pananampalataya..May iisang Diyos na siyang Lumikha sa Lahat,,Ang Diyos ng Pag-ibig at Pagpapatawad.Siya lamang ang aking Sinasamba.Siya ang Diyos na nagsugo sa Panginoong Hesus at siyang nagbuhay muli upang sa pagbalik muli ni Hesukristo kasama ng Dakilang Diyos ay hahatulan ang Tao.

Kaya mag-isip isip ka habang di pa huli ang lahat..

(Pagkilala kay Kristo)
Mat.10:32-33 Ang sinumang kumilala sa akin sa harapan ng mga Tao ay kikilanlin ko rin nman sa harapan ng Aking Amang nasa Langit.(33)Ngunit ang Magtatwa sa akin sa harapan ng mga tao ay ay itatatwa ko rin nman sa harapan ng aking Amang nasa langit.

dsgamefowl
January 18th, 2010, 04:48 AM
naku Bro RK, bahala ka na sambahin mo na ang tao

ikaw naman ang mananagot sa paghuhukom


nagiisang diyos ? ha ha ha

walang ibang Relihiyon nagsasamba sa isang Diyos
maliban sa Hudyo at Muslim

isak isak mo sa isip mo yan - ha ha ha

beakheel
January 18th, 2010, 09:52 AM
tama yan Bro BL, kaya makikita naman halos lahat ng kumakain ng BABOY

nawawala na ang HIYA :D :p

ang katangian ng BABOY napunta na sa kanila


YOU ARE WHAT YOU EAT

pangalan pa lang napakarumi na


Bro beakheel manood ka si Cat Stevens still sings and composing songs pero maka diyos na :)


sama mo panoorin mga anak mo
http://www.youtube.com/v/ypp3cQ1CpQo&hl=en_US&fs=1&">


enjoy

ito pa Bro beakheel, masdaan mo ha baka sabihin mo nun nag muslim na siya di na siya kumakanta


http://www.youtube.com/v/4cpX1ZjuaiA&hl=en_US&fs=1&">

salamat at sumagot ka rin...ganoon lang pala ang kailangan....ha ha ha :D di ko naman sinabing di na sya kumakanta...basahin mo nga uli ang post ko...wala namang relevance tong gusto mong ipanood... not worth the time.
...ano meron ka n bng nakitang verses s libro mo tungkol sa israel.....ano nga pala ang relihiyon ng mga palestino noong kasagsagan ng labanan ni goliath at ni david at alin sa kanila ang nakasaad na kapanalig ng diyos.

bluelegged
January 18th, 2010, 11:11 AM
Bro BL ayos lang ikaw musta na mukhang mapalaban manok ko sa Pampanga he he he, hindi ko po hinahalikan hindi po obligatory halikan ang black stone

sabi nga kahit wala na ang black stone o kahit ang ka'ba basta alam namin ang direction doon pa rin kame haharap pag magdasal


ok lang tayo bro, kayod2 lang para pag nagretire hapi, di gaya ng iba dyan nakupooooo......'o aking kaibigan namumungay ang mata dahil sa usok na di naibuga, meron pa ba pahingi naman nang ang pangit ay lalong gumanda....o aking kaibigan alas ang tinira, pagkaraan ng araw aking nakita, naglalakad sa kalye nagsasalita, tumandang dakila, dakilang tanga' ...hahahahaha!

RIG FARM
January 18th, 2010, 11:17 AM
ok lang tayo bro, kayod2 lang para pag nagretire hapi, di gaya ng iba dyan nakupooooo......'o aking kaibigan namumungay ang mata ko dahil sa usok na diko naibuga, meron pa ba pahingi naman nang ang pangit kung mukha ay lalong gumanda....o aking kaibigan alas aking tinira, pagkaraan ng araw inyong nakita, naglalakad ako sa kalye nagsasalita, tumandang dakila, dakilang tanga' ...hahahahaha!

beakheel
January 18th, 2010, 06:14 PM
naku Bro RK, bahala ka na sambahin mo na ang tao

ikaw naman ang mananagot sa paghuhukom


nagiisang diyos ? ha ha ha

walang ibang Relihiyon nagsasamba sa isang Diyos
maliban sa Hudyo at Muslim

isak isak mo sa isip mo yan - ha ha ha

baka kulang pa iyan....he he he' maglibot libot ka pa"

dsgamefowl
January 19th, 2010, 03:57 AM
ok lang tayo bro, kayod2 lang para pag nagretire hapi, di gaya ng iba dyan nakupooooo......'o aking kaibigan namumungay ang mata dahil sa usok na di naibuga, meron pa ba pahingi naman nang ang pangit ay lalong gumanda....o aking kaibigan alas ang tinira, pagkaraan ng araw aking nakita, naglalakad sa kalye nagsasalita, tumandang dakila, dakilang tanga' ...hahahahaha!


ha ha ha ha

dsgamefowl
January 19th, 2010, 04:02 AM
baka kulang pa iyan....he he he' maglibot libot ka pa"


wala na , kung meron pa sige sabihin mo at sasabihin ko sa iyo na hindi nila sinasamba ang nagiisang Diyos


:)

ironchef
January 20th, 2010, 09:01 PM
Peace sa mga kapatiran,

Kaibigang dsg ako po ay mayroong katanungan, ikagagalak po natin ang iyong kasagutan...

Ano po ang kahalagahan nang simbolo ng Crescent moon o ng buwan sa pananampalatayang islam? Ito po ay ating nakikita sa mga Mosque at mga watatawat ng mga bansang napapasailalim sa pananampalatayang ito. Ang festivities ng Ramadan ay isang moving festivities na inaaayon sa pagsibol ng crescent moon at nagtatapos din dito. May conecsion po ba ang simbolong ito sa sinaunang pagsamba ng mga kapatiran natin sa mga bansang arabya sa buwan (moon worship) sa pagbu-o at pagtatatag nang pananampalatayang islam at sa kasalukuyan? ang iyong magiging paliwanag ay tunay na makakatulong at nawa'y makapagbubukas ng aking mga mata at kaisipan ukol sa nasabing katanungan. Hatid ko din ang isan'libot isang daang pagbati sa iyo at sa mga kapatiran natin sa thread na ito!----Bro. IC


Sa mga kapatirang Kristiyano,

Bakit po sa aklat ng biblia sa lumang tipan, ang Diyos po dito ay may kabangisan at less merciful and often ay vindictive sending his angels to wipe out a whole community mula sa mga kahayupan, mga bata at mga nakakatanda babae man o lalake at taliwas sa Dios na nasa bagong tipan kung saan siya ay merciful, forgiving at loving God? is it possible na sa old testament ang Dios ay may tantrum at sober naman siya sa testamentong bago? ang inyong mga paliwanag ay papakinggan ng lubusan!---Bro. IC

bluelegged
January 20th, 2010, 09:45 PM
wow ok question mo ah ironchief.

E YUN NAMAN 'SUN WORSHIP' ng ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH, ano naman masasabi mo dun? dapat pa ba itanong yan sa vatican?

ironchef
January 20th, 2010, 09:53 PM
wow ok question mo ah ironchief.

E YUN NAMAN 'SUN WORSHIP' ng ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH, ano naman masasabi mo dun? dapat pa ba itanong yan sa vatican?

Kung iyong mamarapatin ay bukas din iyan sa mga kapatirang Katoliko at ang kanilang pagpapaliwanag ay tunay na bibigyan ng kahalagahan...---Bro. IC

wrigleycanada
January 20th, 2010, 09:55 PM
Talagang wala na ngang katapusan ang thread na ito. haba na ng documento rito.

pinahanga ako ni bro DS. Very energetic sa kanyang relihiyon kahit palpak.

hala Bira. pasok ang mahihilig sa debate sa relihiyon!

bluelegged
January 20th, 2010, 09:58 PM
AYOS, MALAPIT NA RIN MAGWAKAS ANG TOPIC NA TO, LALABAS NA RIN ANG MGA DIYOS KUNG SINO2 MGA YAN SA KANYA KANYANG BIBLIYA, AT SINO TALAGA SUMULAT NG MGA YAN:D

bluelegged
January 20th, 2010, 10:04 PM
Talagang wala na ngang katapusan ang thread na ito. haba na ng documento rito.

pinahanga ako ni bro DS. Very energetic sa kanyang relihiyon kahit palpak.

hala Bira. pasok ang mahihilig sa debate sa relihiyon!


HAHAHAHA, PANO MAGKAKARON NG KATAPUSAN YAN E PURO THEORY MGA YAN WALANG CONCLUSION HEHEHE, PURO IMPOSIBLE....VIRGIN NANGANAK, KIDLAT NAGSUSULAT, ANO PA BA???? AH, SI EBA GALING SA TADYANG NI ADAN ..WEHEHEHE

ANO KAYANG KLASENG DROGA TINITIRA NUN PANAHON NAYUN?

ironchef
January 20th, 2010, 10:05 PM
Talagang wala na ngang katapusan ang thread na ito. haba na ng documento rito.

pinahanga ako ni bro DS. Very energetic sa kanyang relihiyon kahit palpak.

hala Bira. pasok ang mahihilig sa debate sa relihiyon!

Ika nga na ang pagkauhaw sa kaalaman ay walang katapusan...sana ay makita natin na ang thread na ito ay isang prebilihiyo upang magkaroon tayo ng ganap na kaalaman sa as to "how and why" and gain understanding rather than makikipagbasa-an sa isa't isa...walang sinuman sa atin ang napakalinis at righteous enuff to impose his will unto others hanggat hindi rin natin naitutuwid ang mga kakulangan at dumi sa ating katauhan...ito ay isang folly lamang at tunay na kalokohan...magtanong at nawa'y may mapulot na mahahalagang bagay sa mga kasagutan na mai-aaply upang bumuti ang ating pamumuhay...

wrigleycanada
January 20th, 2010, 10:12 PM
Ika nga na ang pagkauhaw sa kaalaman ay walang katapusan...sana ay makita natin na ang thread na ito ay isang prebilihiyo upang magkaroon tayo ng ganap na kaalaman sa as to "how and why" and gain understanding rather than makikipagbasa-an sa isa't isa...walang sinuman sa atin ang napakalinis at righteous enuff to impose his will unto others hanggat hindi rin natin naitutuwid ang mga kakulangan at dumi sa ating katauhan...ito ay isang folly lamang at tunay na kalokohan...magtanong at nawa'y may mapulot na mahahalagang bagay sa mga kasagutan na mai-aaply upang bumuti ang ating pamumuhay...
Naku bossing.... Wag kang magpapaloko kay Bro DS. Wag kang mag-convert sa muslim. Harikiri ang mga yan! basahin mo ang post ni brod Grey na sa simula pa alang ay mali na ang kanilang paniwala. paniwala nila na galing sila kay Abraham thru hagar via Esmael. Pero kapag trace mo ang genealogy ni mohammed ay hindi magtutugma sa kanialang paniniwala. Brod grey paki post na lang ang link at medyo mahaba yun eh!

ironchef
January 20th, 2010, 10:19 PM
Naku bossing.... Wag kang magpapaloko kay Bro DS. Wag kang mag-convert sa muslim. Harikiri ang mga yan! basahin mo ang post ni brod Grey na sa simula pa alang ay mali na ang kanilang paniwala. paniwala nila na galing sila kay Abraham thru hagar via Esmael. Pero kapag trace mo ang genealogy ni mohammed ay hindi magtutugma sa kanialang paniniwala. Brod grey paki post na lang ang link at medyo mahaba yun eh!


You are missing a point!!..as i have said nais ko lamang ang matoto kung bakit at ano ang pananampalatayang islam...ako'y nagtatanong kay kaibigang Dsg in a way less offensive without aggravation posting no challenge and with eyes and mind open, kasagutan po lamang ang siyang aking kahilingan...ang pagtatalo ay siyang hindi ang pakay ko dito. Alam mo ba na si Ismael ay isang hebrew?

dsgamefowl
January 20th, 2010, 10:22 PM
Peace sa mga kapatiran,

Kaibigang dsg ako po ay mayroong katanungan, ikagagalak po natin ang iyong kasagutan...

Ano po ang kahalagahan nang simbolo ng Crescent moon o ng buwan sa pananampalatayang islam? Ito po ay ating nakikita sa mga Mosque at mga watatawat ng mga bansang napapasailalim sa pananampalatayang ito. Ang festivities ng Ramadan ay isang moving festivities na inaaayon sa pagsibol ng crescent moon at nagtatapos din dito. May conecsion po ba ang simbolong ito sa sinaunang pagsamba ng mga kapatiran natin sa mga bansang arabya sa buwan (moon worship) sa pagbu-o at pagtatatag nang pananampalatayang islam at sa kasalukuyan? ang iyong magiging paliwanag ay tunay na makakatulong at nawa'y makapagbubukas ng aking mga mata at kaisipan ukol sa nasabing katanungan. Hatid ko din ang isan'libot isang daang pagbati sa iyo at sa mga kapatiran natin sa thread na ito!----Bro. IC



kaibigan IC, Salaam magandang katanungan po yan

wala pong kahalagahan yan sa pananampalatayang Islam ang mga nakikita sa taas ng minarets ito po para ma identify lamang na Mosque po yun kasi walang ibang buildings na may Crescent sa Taas kundi mga mosque lamang,

at regarding the Crescent Moon symbol ang pagkaalam ko hindi ginamit ng Prophet(saw)nagumpisa ata ang paggamit nito during the time of the Ottomans



ito lagi ilagay sa kaisipan ng bawat tao

We muslims never associate any partners with God

siya lamang po ang dapat samabahin wala ng iba


Chapter 112 - The Shortest Chapter in the Noble Quran

bluelegged
January 20th, 2010, 10:26 PM
Naku bossing.... Wag kang magpapaloko kay Bro DS. Wag kang mag-convert sa muslim. Harikiri ang mga yan! basahin mo ang post ni brod Grey na sa simula pa alang ay mali na ang kanilang paniwala. paniwala nila na galing sila kay Abraham thru hagar via Esmael. Pero kapag trace mo ang genealogy ni mohammed ay hindi magtutugma sa kanialang paniniwala. Brod grey paki post na lang ang link at medyo mahaba yun eh!


O AYAN IRONCHIEF, KITANG KITA MO NAMAN PANANALITA NI BRO WRIG HA, ROMANO KATOLIKO YAN WEHEHEHE, YAN O KITANG KITA YAN HA:D YAN YATA NATUTUTUNAN SA LIBRO NILA E, KASI MALIMALI WEHEHEHE, GUSTO NILA ITUWID DI KAYANG ITUWID DAMI NA KASI NAKABASA E HAHAHAHA

dsgamefowl
January 20th, 2010, 10:29 PM
Ika nga na ang pagkauhaw sa kaalaman ay walang katapusan...sana ay makita natin na ang thread na ito ay isang prebilihiyo upang magkaroon tayo ng ganap na kaalaman sa as to "how and why" and gain understanding rather than makikipagbasa-an sa isa't isa...walang sinuman sa atin ang napakalinis at righteous enuff to impose his will unto others hanggat hindi rin natin naitutuwid ang mga kakulangan at dumi sa ating katauhan...ito ay isang folly lamang at tunay na kalokohan...magtanong at nawa'y may mapulot na mahahalagang bagay sa mga kasagutan na mai-aaply upang bumuti ang ating pamumuhay...

Kaibigan IC, pinahanga mo ako sa iyong mga katanungan napaka ganda at very interesting

Ikaw lang ang kaunaunang tao nanagtatanong with Respect, ako po'y handa sagutin ang mga katanungan ninyo sa aking buong makakaya at higit sa lahat sa aking limitadong kaalaman



easy ka lang may surpresa pa naman ako sa iyo

biro mo mga scope ng baril ng mga sundalo ginagamit sa Iraq at Afghanistan may mga Verse ng Bible :eek: hindi na ako mag comment tungkol dito - natatawa lang kasi ako he he he

bluelegged
January 20th, 2010, 10:31 PM
24315



BRO IRONCHIEF, ANO SA TINGIN MO BAKIT HINALIKAN NG POPE JOHN PAUL I ANG QURAN??? MAY IDEA KA BA KAHIT BAKIT?

ironchef
January 20th, 2010, 10:32 PM
O AYAN IRONCHIEF, KITANG KITA MO NAMAN PANANALITA NI BRO WRIG HA, ROMANO KATOLIKO YAN WEHEHEHE, YAN O KITANG KITA YAN HA:D YAN YATA NATUTUTUNAN SA LIBRO NILA E, KASI MALIMALI WEHEHEHE, GUSTO NILA ITUWID DI KAYANG ITUWID DAMI NA KASI NAKABASA E HAHAHAHA

I did'nt come here to bash anyone or to say na ako ay tama at kayo ay mali....if anyone would like to make a point do it in a manner less offensive...IT IS NICE TO BE IMPORTANT, BUT IT IS IMPORTANT TO BE NICE! ako ay naparito upang matuto sa bawat isa sa inyo...i have now become your student!

dsgamefowl
January 20th, 2010, 10:37 PM
Naku bossing.... Wag kang magpapaloko kay Bro DS. Wag kang mag-convert sa muslim. Harikiri ang mga yan! basahin mo ang post ni brod Grey na sa simula pa alang ay mali na ang kanilang paniwala. paniwala nila na galing sila kay Abraham thru hagar via Esmael. Pero kapag trace mo ang genealogy ni mohammed ay hindi magtutugma sa kanialang paniniwala. Brod grey paki post na lang ang link at medyo mahaba yun eh!


Bro Wrigs, tulad sinabi ko pa noon "Hindi kayo kailangan ng Islam" kundi

kayo ang nangangailangan nito :) THERE IS NO COMPULSION IN RELIGION

ako po nandito upanga alamin natin ang katotohanan about your Religion and My Religion


papano mo sasabihin hindi tugma mismo sa biblya mo nakasulat ang mga anak ni
Ismael(pbuh)

hanapin mo sa google ang " TRIBES of KEDAR"

hindi na ako magpapaliwanag tungkol dito

ironchef
January 20th, 2010, 10:37 PM
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Maraming Salamat sa iyong katanungan at tulad ng aking mga kahilingang kasagutan ay sasagutin kita ayon sa aking nilalaman...

Compromise! we call that meet me half way! i hope nasagot ko ang iyong katanungan!

bluelegged
January 20th, 2010, 10:39 PM
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WOW OK KA IRONCHIEF AH, SIGE STUDENT KA NA, UNANG TANONG SAU, BAKIT NGA HINALIKAN NI PAPA POPE JOHN PAUL 1 ANG QURAN? ANY IDEA?

ironchef
January 20th, 2010, 10:42 PM
WOW OK KA IRONCHIEF AH, SIGE STUDENT KA NA, UNANG TANONG SAU, BAKIT NGA HINALIKAN NI PAPA POPE JOHN PAUL 1 ANG QURAN? ANY IDEA?

Hindi ba sapat ang aking naunang kasagutan?...would you rather see the Pope ex-communicate the rest of the non catholic world than make peace with the rest....? kung sa iyo ay may labis kang nalalaman then let us learn from you kaibigan...

bluelegged
January 20th, 2010, 10:53 PM
IS THAT KISS FULL OF SINCERITY? WHICH ONE?

YOU ARE ABOUT TO LAY AN ATTACK TO ISLAMIC WORLD THROUGH YOUR 'CRESENT MOON' INQUIRY, NOW WHAT CAN YOU SAY ABOUT THE 'SUN WORSHIP' OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH?

cryptonite
January 20th, 2010, 10:55 PM
hindi naman po hinalikan ni Pope John Paul 1 ang sinasabi mong quran, never niya pong hinalikan yan. the pix doesnt show Pope John Paul ll kissing the quran, inamoy lng

dsgamefowl
January 20th, 2010, 10:55 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/video/us-15749625/secret-jesus-bible-codes-on-u-s-military-weapons-17700769 (http://news.yahoo.com/video/us-15749625/secret-jesus-bible-codes-on-u-s-military-weapons-17700769)

at dito rin ninyo makikita ang intention nila hindi lang ang Oil, pati pag distribute ng biblya napaka desprado na talaga , hindi na kasi mapigilan ang paglaganap ng Islam


mga Celebrities mga mahirap mga mayaman mga ibat ibang lahi ang dami nag embrace ng Islam

Bakit kaya? pinilit po ba sila ?

ironchef
January 20th, 2010, 10:59 PM
IS THAT KISS FULL OF SINCERITY? WHICH ONE?

YOU ARE ABOUT TO LAY AN ATTACK TO ISLAMIC WORLD THROUGH YOUR 'CRESENT MOON' INQUIRY, NOW WHAT CAN YOU SAY ABOUT THE 'SUN WORSHIP' OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH?

Kaya nga sabi ko compromise eh!

As to the moon worship...what i laid is to validate if it has a relation to the present Islam! sa kasagutan ni kaibigang dsg i have no further inquiry...kasagutan lamang ang aking kailangan kanya nga wala ng follow-up sa nasabing katanungan...nasa mga nagbabasa na ang pagkakaintindi niyan. As to the Sun worship i have never raised any question as of yet! bakit hindi natin tanungin ang mga nauukulan?

Have you seen any Catholics at every sunday out in the open worshipping and venerating the sun lately from dusk to dawn??

cryptonite
January 20th, 2010, 11:04 PM
simply lang pag celebrities may talent fee yan, mas mahal, ang mahirap may bayad din






mga Celebrities mga mahirap mga mayaman mga ibat ibang lahi ang dami nag embrace ng Islam

Bakit kaya? pinilit po ba sila ?

dsgamefowl
January 20th, 2010, 11:08 PM
simply lang pag celebrities may talent fee yan, mas mahal, ang mahirap may bayad din

ha ha ha talent fee? hindi ka kasi nag pay attention - :)

panoorin mo ulit

cryptonite
January 20th, 2010, 11:17 PM
heheehe, ayaw niyo lang kasi sabihin na binabayaran ang mga bagong recruit ng islam.
pati attention mo may bayad pa ...heheeh

ha ha ha talent fee? hindi ka kasi nag pay attention - :)

panoorin mo ulit

mikki moored
January 20th, 2010, 11:20 PM
Hindi ba sapat ang aking naunang kasagutan?...would you rather see the Pope ex-communicate the rest of the non catholic world than make peace with the rest....? kung sa iyo ay may labis kang nalalaman then let us learn from you kaibigan...

walang nalalaman yan si wafo kundi ang pag-aatake ng roman catholic faith!

ironchef
January 20th, 2010, 11:21 PM
Kaibigang Blue,

Sana naman ay hindi mo ako kinalimutan, my question still stands.....

Have you seen any Catholics at every Sunday out in the open worshipping and venerating the sun lately...from dusk to dawn?? to solidify your CLAIM that present day Catholics worship the sun!

cryptonite
January 20th, 2010, 11:24 PM
wait a lil time migs IC, be ready for the copy paste reply hehee


Kaibigang Blue,

Sana naman ay hindi mo ako kinalimutan, my question still stands.....

Have you seen any Catholics at every Sunday out in the open worshipping and venerating the sun lately...from dusk to dawn??

dsgamefowl
January 20th, 2010, 11:30 PM
Kaibigang Blue,

Sana naman ay hindi mo ako kinalimutan, my question still stands.....

Have you seen any Catholics at every Sunday out in the open worshipping and venerating the sun lately...from dusk to dawn?? to solidify your CLAIM that present day Catholics worship the sun!

migs IC, alis muna ako trabaho pa mamaya na lang :)

mukhang wala pa naglalakas ng loob sagutin ang tanong mo sa mga kapatid natin Kristyano , o di kaya Walang Alam


payo lang mga kapatid alamin ninyo ang Relihiyon ninyo - may mahalagang katanungan si Kaibigan IC

follow up Question - bakit sa lumang tipan nakasakay sa Kerubin ang panginoon ?:rolleyes:

ironchef
January 20th, 2010, 11:32 PM
Sige po kaibigang dsg may pasok din ako mamaya so i'm still good for about an hour....A Blessed day sa iyo kaibigan at maraming maraming salamat sa iyong mga kasagutan!

dsgamefowl
January 20th, 2010, 11:35 PM
Sige po kaibigang dsg may pasok din ako mamaya so i'm still good for about an hour....A Blessed day sa iyo kaibigan at maraming maraming salamat sa iyong mga kasagutan!

Welcome migs IC, it's my Obligation as a muslim to share even 1 verse in the noble quran

God Bless

cryptonite
January 20th, 2010, 11:38 PM
I am not sure if bro DS is reading it right, para yata kay BL or sa inyo ang katanungan ni migs IC...

Several times you have missed some points bro ds...no wonder


migs IC, alis muna ako trabaho pa mamaya na lang :)

mukhang wala pa naglalakas ng loob sagutin ang tanong mo sa mga kapatid natin Kristyano , o di kaya Walang Alam


payo lang mga kapatid alamin ninyo ang Relihiyon ninyo - may mahalagang katanungan si Kaibigan IC

follow up Question - bakit sa lumang tipan nakasakay sa Kerubin ang panginoon ?:rolleyes:

f2gade
January 20th, 2010, 11:40 PM
Welcome migs IC, it's my Obligation as a muslim to share even 1 verse in the noble quran

God Bless


tumigil ka nga bro ds nagmuslimusliman ka lang naman daw...:D
ma pang laban ka ba daw sa feb 4 me paderby daw kaibigan ko sa jedha...

ironchef
January 20th, 2010, 11:42 PM
I am not sure if bro DS is reading it right, para yata kay BL or sa inyo ang katanungan ni migs IC...


Nasagot na po ni kaibigang dsg ang aking katanungan...ang kay kaibigang BL po lamang ang siyang nakaligta-an! Magandng araw kaibigang Cryptonite...

Kaibigang BL kung mamarapatin ay idadagdag ko na rin sa nauna kung katanungan ang hindi pa nasasagot na katanungang ito...would appreciate very much ang iyong katugunan...



Bakit po sa aklat ng biblia sa lumang tipan, ang Diyos po dito ay may kabangisan at less merciful and often ay vindictive towards the people of Israel sending his angels to wipe out a whole community mula sa mga kahayupan, mga bata at mga nakakatanda babae man o lalake sa kanilang mga kasalanan sa halip na patawarin ang mga ito? at taliwas sa Dios na nasa bagong tipan kung saan siya ay merciful, forgiving at loving God? is it possible na sa old testament ang Dios ay may tantrum at sober naman siya sa testamentong bago? ang inyong mga paliwanag ay papakinggan ng lubusan!---Bro. IC

cryptonite
January 20th, 2010, 11:46 PM
migs IC yung tanong niyo para kay BL, Bro DS thought it was addressed to RC's.

maung aga man da cmu migs IC!

Nasagot na po ni kaibigang dsg ang aking katanungan...ang kay kaibigang BL po lamang ang siyang nakaligta-an! Magandng araw kaibigang Cryptonite...

dsgamefowl
January 20th, 2010, 11:46 PM
tumigil ka nga bro ds nagmuslimusliman ka lang naman daw...:D
ma pang laban ka ba daw sa feb 4 me paderby daw kaibigan ko sa jedha...

sino may sabi si Leonard? :) ano ba alam niya tungkol sa akin? magantay lang sila Bro f2gade 2 years pa magkakaalaman na dito may paratingp a mga 2 trayss sa March

sisiw pa mga manok ko - 3 lalake 2 babae ay may parating pa

ano sasali ka sa pa derby ni Jun Dizon?, maganda makatapat ang manok mo para malaman ko kung kaya rin pumatay ng imported he he he


God Bless, alam mo miss kita ha ha ha

f2gade
January 20th, 2010, 11:49 PM
Nasagot na po ni kaibigang dsg ang aking katanungan...ang kay kaibigang BL po lamang ang siyang nakaligta-an! Magandng araw kaibigang Cryptonite...

hahahaha payo lang kaibigan ironchef kung may time ka basabasa ka lang mula umpisa baka di mo pa alam si bl nasa retirement home na yan at accute na alzymher kaya paulit ulit ang tanong mamaya yan tatanungin ka ng roman empire at nazi daw ang santo papa...:D

f2gade
January 20th, 2010, 11:54 PM
sino may sabi si Leonard? :) ano ba alam niya tungkol sa akin? magantay lang sila Bro f2gade 2 years pa magkakaalaman na dito may paratingp a mga 2 trayss sa March

sisiw pa mga manok ko - 3 lalake 2 babae ay may parating pa

ano sasali ka sa pa derby ni Jun Dizon?, maganda makatapat ang manok mo para malaman ko kung kaya rin pumatay ng imported he he he


God Bless, alam mo miss kita ha ha ha

hahahaha sabi ko na sau wala na akong cock kausapin ko si leonard pauwi sya nxt month kung gusto nya sasali kailan ba yun ...

sa stag season mo ako hamonin este! imbitahin pala

ironchef
January 20th, 2010, 11:56 PM
hahahaha payo lang kaibigan ironchef kung may time ka basabasa ka lang mula umpisa baka di mo pa alam si bl nasa retirement home na yan at accute na alzymher kaya paulit ulit ang tanong mamaya yan tatanungin ka ng roman empire at nazi daw ang santo papa...:D


Ay ganun po bah...napaka complex po ng temang iyan...hindi pa po nararapat at handa ang thread na ito sa mga bagay bagay na iyan, napaka sensitibo po ng mga nilalaman niyan at sa halip na mag bigay linaw at deeper understanding ay pag hindi maingat ang pagsisiwalat niyan ay lubhang ang kalalabasan ay away at bangayan....tunay pong nakakamatay ang di gaanong malawak na kaalaman! kanya nga naman ako ay naririto ay upang matuto sa inyo ng mapalawak din nang kaunti ang maliit at limitado kong mundo! magandang umaga kaibigang f2gade...bro. IC

cryptonite
January 21st, 2010, 01:48 AM
you are happy lambasting christian believers, yet you dont want to get the same criticism, which attack you meant here...you've been doing it, review your posts, well as posted you may have an alzheimers which resulted your being forgetful. I suppose res ipsa loquitor could be apply to your character being a converted one.hehehe no offense but it showed


IS THAT KISS FULL OF SINCERITY? WHICH ONE?

YOU ARE ABOUT TO LAY AN ATTACK TO ISLAMIC WORLD THROUGH YOUR 'CRESENT MOON' INQUIRY, NOW WHAT CAN YOU SAY ABOUT THE 'SUN WORSHIP' OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH?

bluelegged
January 21st, 2010, 03:49 AM
Nasagot na po ni kaibigang dsg ang aking katanungan...ang kay kaibigang BL po lamang ang siyang nakaligta-an! Magandng araw kaibigang Cryptonite...

Kaibigang BL kung mamarapatin ay idadagdag ko na rin sa nauna kung katanungan ang hindi pa nasasagot na katanungang ito...would appreciate very much ang iyong katugunan...



Bakit po sa aklat ng biblia sa lumang tipan, ang Diyos po dito ay may kabangisan at less merciful and often ay vindictive towards the people of Israel sending his angels to wipe out a whole community mula sa mga kahayupan, mga bata at mga nakakatanda babae man o lalake sa kanilang mga kasalanan sa halip na patawarin ang mga ito? at taliwas sa Dios na nasa bagong tipan kung saan siya ay merciful, forgiving at loving God? is it possible na sa old testament ang Dios ay may tantrum at sober naman siya sa testamentong bago? ang inyong mga paliwanag ay papakinggan ng lubusan!---Bro. IC


huh! ang tunay na diyos? ang kaisa-isang diyos ng sanlibutan? sige nga mag post ka dito nyan sinasabi mo na nasa lumang tipan? baka naman libro na ni 'satanas' yan binabasa mo:eek: dimo pa alam!

sa romano katoliko, ang linggo ay 'SUN-DAY' a day of worship their 'SUN GOD'

bluelegged
January 21st, 2010, 03:56 AM
CHRISTMAS -
And "sun-god" WORSHIP
What is The "LINK" ?
The "First" Link - is The DATE
"Pagans celebrated the birth of the Sun
on the 25th of December."
--THE MYSTERIES OF MITHRA
by Franz Cumont [1903]
Actually there are many Links between Christmas and
sun-god worship. The most obvious Link is the Date
itself. We know that the Bible says that Jesus was
born during a warm month, when the sheep and their
shepherds were still spending the nights outdoors.
We also know - that could not have been in December,
because that time of year was too cold and rainy.
History reports that back then, and even now, the sheep
in the area of Bethlemen and Jerusalem, are kept indoors
at night, after the month of October.
So what would cause the Apostate Church of Christendom
to insist on "Honoring" Christ in the Wintertime ?
There Lies the Link to sun-god worship.
All the sun-gods from the time of Ancient Babylon, to
the present - have birthdays on December 25. That is
their holy day for Celebration. How could they all be
born on December 25th - you might ask? The answer is
simple. Nimrod of Ancient Babylon - was the first human,
to claim that he was a god. His mother, Semiramis,
claimed therefore - to be - The Mother of God.
Nimrod was born on December 25th, and since all other
sun-gods were fashioned after him - the answer is obvious.
"Semiramis and Horus/Tammuz were worshipped as
"Madonna and child." And as the generations passed,
they were worshipped under other names in different
countries and languages. Many of these are recognizable:
Fortuna and Jupiter in Rome; Aphrodite and Adonis in
Greece and Ashtoreth/Astarte and Molech/Baal in Canaan."


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bluelegged
January 21st, 2010, 04:03 AM
"In his deified form, Nimrod the Sun god is known as Baal.
Mythology reveals the fact that the god Baal, and the
goddess, the queen of heaven, were universally worshiped
under various names and titles. History confirms, that
Nimrod, and his wife, Semiramis, were the prototypes for
all gods and goddesses that permeated all subsequent
cultures and societies."

Nimrod - Semiramis - Tammuz
And December 25th
"In his deified form, Nimrod the Sun god is known as Baal.
Mythology reveals the fact that the god Baal, and the
goddess, the queen of heaven, were universally worshiped
under various names and titles. History confirms, that
Nimrod, and his wife, Semiramis, were the prototypes for
all gods and goddesses that permeated all subsequent
cultures and societies."

http://xac.xanga.com/289d3a702443296182605/z67368444.jpg (http://photo.xanga.com/christmasxmas/ac28996182605/photo.html)
"When Nimrod was a young boy, his mother, Semiramis,
desired him, and in fact, ended up marrying him.
When Nimrod died, and was made the sun god,
Semiramis then had an illegitimate son called Tammuz,
who she claimed to be the son of Nimrod. Semiramis also
declared that her son, Tammuz, was in actuality the
return or rebirth of her husband, Nimrod."

Queen of Heaven -
Mother and Child Worship - From Babylon
"Tammuz became symbolized by the golden calf.
Semiramis became known as the "queen of heaven,"
and was the prototype from which all other pagan
goddesses came."
"http://xb8.xanga.com/bb3d266a0503596173676/z67361701.jpg (http://photo.xanga.com/christmasxmas/b8bb396173676/photo.html)
"Nimrod's religion is identified in scripture with Satan -
by reading Isaiah Chapter 14 and in Revelation Chapters 17-18.
By history we can prove that Babylonian religion invaded
the whole world and is the basis for every system of idolatry,
and is the theme of mythology, though the names of the gods
are different because of the various languages in the world.
The world's major religions can be traced back to ancient Babylon.
Satan is known as the father of lies which deceiveth the whole world
(Genesis 3:1, John 8:44, Revelation 12:9), and Nimrod was the
human "father" of all false religion."

bluelegged
January 21st, 2010, 04:08 AM
"Satan tried to compete for the loyalty of the world
by setting up a very ancient center of sun worship
called Babylon. It was Satan's attempt to defy God
and His authority. The ring leader in this scheme was
one named Nimrod. He was the man who had something to
do with the beginning of pagan sun worship."
--Paganism in the Church http://xce.xanga.com/54ad3666c843296175172/z67362771.jpg (http://photo.xanga.com/christmasxmas/ce54a96175172/photo.html)
"The logical person to replace the Great Mother of
paganism was Mary, the mother of Jesus. It mattered not
to pagan Rome whether they worshiped the goddess mother
and her child under the Egyptian names of Isis and Horus,
or the Babylonian names of Semiramis and Tammuz, or the
Roman names of Venus and Jupiter, or under the names of
the "Virgin Mary" and the "Christ- child.". Either way,
it was the same old idol-religion."
Where did Christmas Come from?

"Nimrod, one of the great-grandsons of Noah,
is accredited with being the originator of sun worship."
--Paganism in the Church
How did Christendom Swallow and Accept
The Lies of Ancient Babylon ?

"The 'Christianization' of Pagan Customs, Symbols, and
Terminology — Christianity had to undergo a transformation
so that pagan Rome could "convert" without giving up its
old beliefs and rituals. The actual effect was to paganize
official Christianity. A compound religion had been
manufactured, of which ... Christianity furnished the
nomenclature, and Paganism furnished the doctrines and
the rights. The idolatry of the Roman world had by no
means been demolished. Instead of this, its pagan
nakedness had been covered with the garb of a deformed
Christianity."

"The so-called Christmas customs and traditions were
later concocted more for commercial purposes than for
religious. Merchants sell more of almost every kind of
product during the Christmas season than at any other
time of year."

Where did Christmas Come from?

bluelegged
January 21st, 2010, 04:13 AM
Christmas is A "Lie"

"No "Christian" holiday is as misleading as Christmas—
unless it is Easter. What do evergreen trees, Yule logs,
holly wreaths, mistletoe, and Santa Claus have to do with
our relationship with our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ?
Does the nativity scene with its mother-and-child motif
teach us anything about the relationship between God the
Father and His Son?"

"Does Christmas teach us the truth?
With so many falsehoods and deceptions surrounding
and embedded in this holiday, we would be foolish to
believe that God would approve of its celebration.
Truth is very important to God. It is one of the names
of His son - Jesus Christ (John 14:6) and one of his
ministry's themes: "And you shall know the truth,
and the truth shall make you free" (John 8:32; 18:37).
Conversely, lies bind us in spiritual slavery."

"Let's reflect for a moment on the origins and history
of Christmas, which flourishes today in the materialistic
Western world. From its non-Christian background, we can
see that it is a syncretistic blend of pagan rites and
Christian themes that is abhorrent to God (Deuteronomy
12:29-32; see Exodus 32). Christmas is a quagmire of
deceptive traditions."


Now Add a Tree
And a Little Greenery

"After Nimrod's death (c. 2167 BC), Semiramis promoted
the belief that he was a god. She claimed that she saw
a full-grown evergreen tree spring out of the roots of
a dead tree stump (the Yule Log) , symbolizing the springing forth of
new life for Nimrod. On the anniversary of his birth (Dec 25),
she said, Nimrod would visit the evergreen tree and leave gifts
under it. His birthday fell on the winter solstice at the end of December."

Now Add a "Trinity"

"A few years later, Semiramis bore a son, named
Tammuz, Horus or Gilgamesh. She declared that she had
been visited by the spirit of Nimrod, who left her
pregnant with the boy. Horus/Tammuz, who she maintained,
was Nimrod reincarnated. With a father, mother and son
deified, a deceptive, perverted Trinity was formed."


"NOW, WHO ARE YOU HONORING ON DECEMBER 25TH?"

dsgamefowl
January 21st, 2010, 05:05 AM
hahahaha sabi ko na sau wala na akong cock kausapin ko si leonard pauwi sya nxt month kung gusto nya sasali kailan ba yun ...

sa stag season mo ako hamonin este! imbitahin pala



ha ha ha ikaw naman di ka mabiro :D kumusta na dyan?

kaibigan mo pala ang mag pa derby sa Feb 4, sino kaya? hmmmmm :rolleyes:

dsgamefowl
January 21st, 2010, 05:12 AM
Bakit po sa aklat ng biblia sa lumang tipan, ang Diyos po dito ay may kabangisan at less merciful and often ay vindictive towards the people of Israel sending his angels to wipe out a whole community mula sa mga kahayupan, mga bata at mga nakakatanda babae man o lalake sa kanilang mga kasalanan sa halip na patawarin ang mga ito? at taliwas sa Dios na nasa bagong tipan kung saan siya ay merciful, forgiving at loving God? is it possible na sa old testament ang Dios ay may tantrum at sober naman siya sa testamentong bago? ang inyong mga paliwanag ay papakinggan ng lubusan!---Bro. IC

Magandang Umaga, Gabi, Tanghali o hapon sa inyong lahat

Kaibigan IC, ako na lang kaya ang sasagot he he he pasensya ka na sa mga kapatid natin ma kristyano man o katoliko medyo hindi kasi sila sanay mag buklat at mag basa ng biblya

grey/dom
January 21st, 2010, 05:22 AM
pag according to matthew or paul or john...sabisabi....but not according to mohammad...

pag tao sinamba ...pagan...pag bato...di pagan...?

ano ba ang tunay na pakay sa mundo ang isang tao? di ba ang mabuhay? naglalagay tayo ng mga protection sa katawan like clothes dahil malamig...shoes upang di masaktan paa natin...kulambo upang di tayo kagatin ng lamok...tapos ganoon lang kadali maging bombero tayo? para sino? para kanino?

love thy neighbors....the stranger is our brother...love nature....yan ang turo ng relihiyon namin...at maski pinakamabangis na tao ay me puwang sa pagpatawad...bakit nawala ang silya elektrika at lethal injections? dahil sa mga kristyano...dahil ang buhay ay mahalaga at ang tao ay may pangalawang pagkakataon magbagong buhay..

bluelegged
January 21st, 2010, 05:38 AM
The "LORD" that you give honor to each year on
December 25th - is NOT the one that you think you
are honoring. Jesus was born in a warm month,
when the shepherds were still sleeping out in the
fields with their flock in the night. Jesus was not
born in the cold rainy month of December.
His birth date was obscured because God commands us
to observe Jesus death and NOT his birth.
Then whose Birth is the world honoring on December 25 ?
None other than the First Human to Oppose Jehovah God.
And Who was that ?
NIMROD -
"Nimrod’s rebellion was to head a great confederacy
in open revolt against God. This confederacy is described
in Genesis eleven and that it was an organized revolt
against Jehovah God is very clear. From this point
onward - Babylon in Scripture always stands for that
which is in opposition to God "


"Long before the Christian Era itself,
A Festival was celebrated among the heathen.
At that precise time of the year (December 25),
in honor of the birth of NIMROD, the son of
the Babylonian "Queen of Heaven". This same
festival was adopted by the Roman Church,
giving it the name of Christ."

"The Chaldea paraphrase of this verse says,
"Cush begat Nimrod who began to prevail in wickedness
for he slew innocent blood and rebelled against Jehovah".
-Types of Antichrists in Biblical Times
Nimrod, the King of Babylon,
builder of the tower of Babel

Nimrod was born on December 25th. When he died,
he was represented by a "Yule" Log. The Dead remains
of this once Grand tree-god, was thrown into the
"Fireplace". Each year, on the date of his birth,
a "New" evergreen tree suddenly appeared with presents
and trinkets upon it. Even the ancient woodcut above,
reveals the symbols of "Ancient Babylon" and its founder,
Nimrod.

dsgamefowl
January 21st, 2010, 05:39 AM
pag according to matthew or paul or john...sabisabi....but not according to mohammad...



nakalimutan mo ata si RINGO at si George completo na ulit ang beatles :p :D

according to Matthew pero ang pinag uusapan si Matthew din :eek:

grey/dom
January 21st, 2010, 05:41 AM
The "LORD" that you give honor to each year on
December 25th - is NOT the one that you think you
are honoring. Jesus was born in a warm month,
when the shepherds were still sleeping out in the
fields with their flock in the night. Jesus was not
born in the cold rainy month of December.
His birth date was obscured because God commands us
to observe Jesus death and NOT his birth.
Then whose Birth is the world honoring on December 25 ?
None other than the First Human to Oppose Jehovah God.
And Who was that ?
NIMROD -
"Nimrod’s rebellion was to head a great confederacy
in open revolt against God. This confederacy is described
in Genesis eleven and that it was an organized revolt
against Jehovah God is very clear. From this point
onward - Babylon in Scripture always stands for that
which is in opposition to God "


"Long before the Christian Era itself,
A Festival was celebrated among the heathen.
At that precise time of the year (December 25),
in honor of the birth of NIMROD, the son of
the Babylonian "Queen of Heaven". This same
festival was adopted by the Roman Church,
giving it the name of Christ."

"The Chaldea paraphrase of this verse says,
"Cush begat Nimrod who began to prevail in wickedness
for he slew innocent blood and rebelled against Jehovah".
-Types of Antichrists in Biblical Times
Nimrod, the King of Babylon,
builder of the tower of Babel

Nimrod was born on December 25th. When he died,
he was represented by a "Yule" Log. The Dead remains
of this once Grand tree-god, was thrown into the
"Fireplace". Each year, on the date of his birth,
a "New" evergreen tree suddenly appeared with presents
and trinkets upon it. Even the ancient woodcut above,
reveals the symbols of "Ancient Babylon" and its founder,
Nimrod.

what is the name of your GOD? Allah or JEHOVAH?

bluelegged
January 21st, 2010, 05:43 AM
Nimrod and the "Yule" Log
Nimrod and the "Christmas Tree"

"Nimrod started the great organized worldly apostasy
from God that has dominated this world until now.
Nimrod married his own mother, whose name was Semiramis.
After Nimrod's death, his so-called mother-wife,
Semiramis, propagated the evil doctrine of the survival
of Nimrod as a spirit being. She claimed a full-grown
evergreen tree sprang overnight from a dead tree stump,
which symbolized the springing forth unto new life
of the dead Nimrod. On each anniversary of his birth,
she claimed, Nimrod would visit the evergreen tree
and leave gifts upon it. December 25th, was the birthday
of Nimrod. This is the real origin of the Christmas tree."

"Traditionally, a yule log was burned in the fireplace
on Christmas Eve and during the night as the log's embers
died, there appeared in the room, as if by magic, a
Christmas tree surrounded by gifts. The yule log
represented the sun-god Nimrod and the Christmas tree
represented himself resurrected as his own son Tammuz."

"So our Christmas tree -- and our yule log -- have
tremendous meaning, but not a Christian meaning.
The yule log is the dead Nimrod, human ruler of
ancient Babylon, who was eventually deified as the
sun incarnate, and hence a god. The Christmas tree
is mystical Tammuz, the slain god come to life again."

http://x84.xanga.com/dccd103a28d3388475500/z61198292.jpg (http://photo.xanga.com/CHRISTMASXMAS/84dcc88475500/photo.html)

The Nimrod Deception is Satan's Deception

The Nimrod deception has been spread to and retained in
all parts of the world - over all centuries - even today.
The Norse gods, the Egyptian gods, the Roman gods, etc., etc.,
have all retained different aspects of Nimrod, his mother, and their
rebellion against Jehovah God.
"So in Christmas, we have Satan counterfeiting
the real truth of God. The yule log and Christmas tree. .
All may be traced to ancient Babylon and the Mysteries
of Nimrod, Semiramis and Tammuz -- Satan's incredibly
clever counterfeit..."

ironchef
January 21st, 2010, 05:44 AM
Kaibigng BL,

Napakahaba naman ng landas na iyong tinahak, simple lang ang tanong ko, nakakakita ka ba ng mga kapatid nating katoliko na siyang sumasamba sa araw out in the open tuwing linggo....minudmuran mo na kami ng sang katutak na babasahin....oo at hindi lang naman ang kasagutan sa aking katanungan ay hindi mo pa ako mapagbigyan....

Tama ka na noong unang panahon ang sunday ay ipinangalan iyan sa araw na ayon sa pagsamba sa haring araw among pagans...kung ikaw ay hindi sang ayon dini ay doon ka magalit sa mga paganong matagal nang pumanaw na hindi nagkaroon nang pagkakataong masilayan ang kung ano ang tamang pamamamaraan sa pagsamba at pagbibigay pugay...

Ang pasko naman noong unang panahon ay tinatawag namang saturnalia o ang roman festivities honoring the God Saturn,who is also known as Sol who is the sun god, who is Nimrod who became baal and bla bla bla...so on and so forth. do we honor the God saturn during crismus? do we celebrate the B-day party of Baal? do we glorify nimrod or her hot mommy Semiramis? should we? do u believe deep within you that this people honor the sun god instead of JC...most of the people has no idea about nimrod and the ancient sun worhip among pagans. should we hate them for this?

Ang tungkol sa dios sa lumang tipan at sa bagong tipan ay di mo pa ako nasasagot, ang kasagutan mo sa pagsamba sa araw sa araw ng linggo kung ito aynakikita mo kahit oo o hindi lamang ang hinihingi ay tanggap ko for your effort...yes, i am all aware sa lahat ng sinabi mo at base sa historical at religious facts ay tama ito....oo o hindi lang ang hiniling ko sa iyo.

kung baga sa diagnosis na sipon...Tamiflu lang ang kinakailangan ko ay binasahan mo na ako ng anatomy at pathophysiology ng respiratory at immune system kung bakit ako nagkasipon....just give me the damn Tamiflu will you! i am off to work pag di busy ang ICU ay sisilip ako dito...magandang gabi at good health sa ating lajat!

grey/dom
January 21st, 2010, 05:46 AM
nakalimutan mo ata si RINGO at si George completo na ulit ang beatles :p :D

according to Matthew pero ang pinag uusapan si Matthew din :eek:

kala ko bright ka sa bibliya...di mo pala alam na ang lahat sa new testament ay si Hesus ang pinagusapan...di mo pala kilala si Hesus...akala ko propeta nyo si Hesus...?

according to mohammad...sino pinagusapan?

Jesus:-


He is called Yassou' in the Quran, a name derived from the Syriac of the Christian Arabs. Most of them were of the Monophysite denomination (Jesus was both human and divine).


The Quran refuses to accept the death and resurrection of Jesus since in its 'logic', no prophet can be killed by humans.


With this concept, the Quran eradicates Christianity, since it cannot exist without the death and resurrection of Jesus.


The reader should be made aware, as will eventually unfold in the Quran, that Muhammad's understanding of Christian theology was even more ABYSMAL than his understanding of the religion of the Jews.


2: 136 Say ye: "We believe in Allah and the revelation given to us and to Abraham Isma`il Isaac Jacob and the Tribes [Asbat] and that given to Moses and Jesus and that given to (all) Prophets from their Lord we make no difference between one and another of them and we bow to Allah (in Islam) [wa nahnoo lahoo Muslimoon]

bluelegged
January 21st, 2010, 05:49 AM
"As these practices came down from Babylon to Egypt,
Greece and Rome, they took on different names. But the
practices remained the same. December 25th was claimed
to be the birthday of the chief gods from Babylon to Rome,
regardless of their different names. The original
Babylonian festival started when Semiramis, the wife
of Nimrod, claimed that overnight, an evergreen tree
sprang up from a dead tree stump beside his grave.
The dead stump supposedly symbolized her dead husband
Nimrod. The new evergreen tree was Nimrod come to life
again in the person of the god Tammuz. The stump or
Yule log, represented the dead stock of Nimrod and the
Christmas tree was Nimrod revived deified as the Sun
god or the 'son of the Sun.'"
Nimrod Worship
"The Babylonian pagan worship of Nimrod,
Semiramis, and the god-incarnate son
extended throughout the entire world
and eventually assumed the name of
Trinitarian Christianity."
Nimrod pleased Satan by opposing Jehovah God, and
he was well rewarded by Satan.

Nimrod Rewarded by Satan
How was Nimrod rewarded by Satan ?
Thousands of Years of Worldwide Worship
Nimrod and his mother have been worshipped from the
time of their rebellion against God, right down to
this very day. Not only that, but they have been
worshipped and honored in every single country on
the face of the earth.
All the trimmings and trappings of Christmas have
come down to us, through the trickery of Satan, and
in a deception only known to those who study history
and research the scriptures as well.
Nimrod in Disguise
Nimrod has been honored in many different disguises.
The trinity worship of He and his son, and of his
Madonna mother (Queen of Heaven) have been found in
all religious cultures around the world - both pagan
and Christendom. From Babylon to Egypt and then to
Rome, onto Roman Catholicism and then onto her daughters-
present day Protestantism.
This article is only focusing on the Christmas aspect
of Satan's deception. Links at the bottom will take
you to other deceptions which also give honor to
Nimrod and his Deified family.

Baby and Madonna
http://x6c.xanga.com/781d34060243488471595/z61195654.jpg (http://photo.xanga.com/CHRISTMASXMAS/6c78188471595/photo.html)

bluelegged
January 21st, 2010, 05:54 AM
The "Holy" Mother and Child ?

"December 25 is when the birth of the son of the
Babylonian queen of heaven was celebrated 2,000 years
before Jesus was born. The name of the day itself --
"Yule" -- is the Chaldean (Babylon) name for "infant"
or "little child," the pagan counterpart... In ancient
Babylon (Nimrod)...the "divine" child. There is obviously
no connection with the birth of Christ."
You are the Victim
of A Four Thousand Year Old Deception
And you my friend, are the victim of this Demonic Deception.
You give honor each year to a man that put himself in place of God.
You painstakingly observe each and every detail of a scam that was
put in place almost four thousand years ago. How Satan must laugh
and giggle - "HO - Ho - Ho" at the stupid humans that have willingly
stepped into his "Trap" of deception.
"In these plays, the devil’s common entry line,
known as the "devil’s bluster," was "Ho! Ho! Ho!"
(Siefker, Phyllis.
Santa Claus, Last of the Wild Men:
The Origins and Evolution of Saint Nicholas.
Jefferson: McFarland & Company, Inc., 1997, p. 69)

"Ho, ho, ho! the devil, the devil!
A-comes, a-comes, a-comes upon me..."


"Where do we get our ideas? Where do we get our religions?
The source is that first world empire, ancient Babylon:
The Babylonian system of idolatrous worship was established
by a historical personage by the name of Semiramis,
queen of Babylon, wife of Nimrod,
only a few centuries after the Flood, about the year
2000 B.C. Babylon was to become the foremost state of
that day, and prevail until approximately 539 B.C.
But the real God Jehovah was unknown in that land.
Instead, the Satan-inspired "Mysteries" were established,
chief features of which included: worshipping of the
mother- and divine child."
A "Satanic" Deception

"Christmas is a well-laid trap. In celebrating it,
the people of the land honor, worship, and glorify
a god, but NOT the God of the Bible. It is appealing
and attractive with all the ornamentation and catchy
music. Nevertheless, it is a trap because it is
not true."

bluelegged
January 21st, 2010, 05:59 AM
The Really Sad Part
The really sad part about all this Foolishness - is that most people,
whether Christian or pagan - do not care, even when they have learned
about the trap they are in. They Like it. They prefer it......
The Churches don't Care
and Neither do the People
"Christianity has jumped in bed with paganism!"
-The Surprising Origin of CHRISTMAS!
William F. Dankenbring and John D. Keyser
"The wicked apostate Church fornicated spiritually
with the heathen, pagan religions of the world,
and "ADOPTED" the date of December 25th
as the "birth-day" of Jesus the Messiah,
who was born Nowhere NEAR that time of year!"
Christendom Joins "Babylon The Great"

How ?

"Nimrod was Noah's great-grandson.
This system at Babel became the source of all
false religion in the world. Apostate Christendom
has a direct line of succession back through Roman
and Greek paganism right to Babel, because Roman and
Greek paganism, it is plain to see, came out of Babel.
Their gods are just renamed gods from older cultures
which take you back to Babel. Of course, we know from
history that the Roman Catholic Church came in as a
mixture of paganism and Christianity through
Constantine's desire to unite his empire with one
unified religious system."

"The Garden of Eden was in Southern Iraq,
not far from where Nimrod, under Satan's motivation,
built Babel, which was the beginning of Babylon.
The Babylonian spirit is invading the world.
Its influence is breathtaking...and spreading its
idea to the entire world. There is no other proper
description of Babel and the evil intent of this
first expression of false religion."

"Mankind in general, has followed variations of
one kind or another, of the religion of Babylon,
to this day."

"Rome...assimilated religions from her many
conquered territories. All these religions had
commonalities, for they all came from Babylon.
These practices infiltrated and overcame the
professing Christian Church, which later came to be
dominated by Rome itself."

dsgamefowl
January 21st, 2010, 06:01 AM
kala ko bright ka sa bibliya...di mo pala alam na ang lahat sa new testament ay si Hesus ang pinagusapan...di mo pala kilala si Hesus...akala ko propeta nyo si Hesus...?

according to mohammad...sino pinagusapan?

hindi ko naman sinabi na bright ako ah :) smart pwede :D :p

Propheta nga po at sinugo siya nga Diyos- at higit sa lahat hindi siya namatay para sa kasalanan mo



Bro GD, basa

Tinawag ni Jesus si Mateo

9Sa patuloy na paglalakad ni Jesus, nakita niya ang isang lalaki na nakaupo sa paningilan ng buwis na ang pangalan ay Mateo. Sinabi ni Jesus sa kaniya: Sumunod ka sa akin. Tumindig siya at sumunod sa kaniya.

kung si Mateo ang nagsulat o ayon kay Mateo dapat

dapat ganito ang pagkasabi

sa patuloy na paglalakad ni Jesus, nakita niya ako na nakaupo sa paningilan ng buwis, at sinabi sa akin in Jesus sumunod ka sa akin, tumayo ako at sumunod ako sa kanya

iba ang smart sa bright :)

bluelegged
January 21st, 2010, 06:04 AM
"This is the cup which the Babylonish system
has made all the world to drink. It is not limited
to the Roman Catholic Church of Rome, but she certainly
plays a major role in today's religious deception."
A Harlot - A Whore ?
The Bible compares ALL False religion to a whore or harlot
who commits spiritual fornication with gods, other than Jehovah,
the True God of the Bible.
By adopting False religious practices from Ancient Babylon -
All False religion is called - "Babylon the Great".
The world is having a ball right now, with all her demonic inspired
holidays and feasts. But when Christ returns - we can be assured that
he will put an end to all things and all people who openly defy his Father,
Jehovah God.

Jesus ".....after crushing the opposition,
he hands over his kingdom to God the Father. "
(1Corinthians 15:24)
Get Our of Her My People
We have all been amply warned to get out of "Babylon The Great" and to
quit touching all unclean things that are Offensive to Jehovah God and to His
Precious son, Jesus Christ. The Destruction of "Babylon The Great" is fast
approaching. These reminders will soon come to their end.
Babylon the Great! ....
"Come out of her, my people,
so that you will not share in her sins..."

No one will be able to say, "I didn't know."

grey/dom
January 21st, 2010, 06:05 AM
3: 45 Behold! the angels said "O Mary [Mariam]! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus the son of Mary held in honor in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah.


*** Already, the first verse concerning Jesus is utterly false. The Quran confuses - as usual - the honorific title 'Christ' as being part of the name of
Jesus ***


3: 55 Behold! Allah said: "O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee superior to those who reject Faith to the Day of Resurrection; then shall ye all return unto Me and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute.


3: 59 This similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam: He created him from dust then said to him: "Be" and he was.

*** Yet again, it is the Quranic version of events which is obviously wrong vis a vis the Biblical original, since Adam was the only 'entity' - in the creation process - that was not created by the WORD of God but was created from DUST and breathed life into.
Once more, the problem of the veracity of the Quranic version of events comes to the fore, since the word of God cannot be true in two contradictory versions.


One version must be wrong or a lie, and it cannot be the ORIGINAL one ***

dsgamefowl
January 21st, 2010, 06:06 AM
kala ko bright ka sa bibliya...di mo pala alam na ang lahat sa new testament ay si Hesus ang pinagusapan...di mo pala kilala si Hesus...akala ko propeta nyo si Hesus...?

according to mohammad...sino pinagusapan?

Jesus:-


He is called Yassou' in the Quran, a name derived from the Syriac of the Christian Arabs. Most of them were of the Monophysite denomination (Jesus was both human and divine).
yan ang problema sa iyo bro GD, kataw'anan ka lang saan po nakasulat yan sige nga

The Quran refuses to accept the death and resurrection of Jesus since in its 'logic', no prophet can be killed by humans.


With this concept, the Quran eradicates Christianity, since it cannot exist without the death and resurrection of Jesus.


The reader should be made aware, as will eventually unfold in the Quran, that Muhammad's understanding of Christian theology was even more ABYSMAL than his understanding of the religion of the Jews.


2: 136 Say ye: "We believe in Allah and the revelation given to us and to Abraham Isma`il Isaac Jacob and the Tribes [Asbat] and that given to Moses and Jesus and that given to (all) Prophets from their Lord we make no difference between one and another of them and we bow to Allah (in Islam) [wa nahnoo lahoo Muslimoon]

antayin natin kung saan nakasulat yan Yassou'

yan mga site mo puro sablay yan- ha ha ha

dsgamefowl
January 21st, 2010, 06:13 AM
3: 45 Behold! the angels said "O Mary [Mariam]! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus the son of Mary held in honor in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah.


*** Already, the first verse concerning Jesus is utterly false. The Quran confuses - as usual - the honorific title 'Christ' as being part of the name of
Jesus ***


3: 55 Behold! Allah said: "O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee superior to those who reject Faith to the Day of Resurrection; then shall ye all return unto Me and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute.


3: 59 This similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam: He created him from dust then said to him: "Be" and he was.

*** Yet again, it is the Quranic version of events which is obviously wrong vis a vis the Biblical original, since Adam was the only 'entity' - in the creation process - that was not created by the WORD of God but was created from DUST and breathed life into.
Once more, the problem of the veracity of the Quranic version of events comes to the fore, since the word of God cannot be true in two contradictory versions.


One version must be wrong or a lie, and it cannot be the ORIGINAL one ***


kaibigan IC, dito makikita mo kung papano nila niloloko sarili nila ha ha ha

hindi maiwasan tumawa

sa pagsabi pa sa Arabic

kun fayya kun


in English


BE and it is

ang paglikha niya kay Adam(pbuh) mula sa alikabok at sa pagsalita niya

ganun din kay Jesus(pbuh) mula sa kanyang salita

:)

bluelegged
January 21st, 2010, 06:15 AM
What's Next on God's Agenda ?
We see so many Bible Prophecies being fulfilled
on the earth today. Like a Drama-Charged Movie,
we wonder what is going to happen next?
The Bible was written like a puzzle and does not
read as a simple, 1,2,3,4 chain of events. We can
tell what has happened and what has not yet happened,
but we eagerly anticipate - What will happen next?
We know that Armageddon is still waiting to happen,
Christ's Judgment upon mankind. We know that Christ
has not begun to rule the earth yet, because he foretold
a time of great peace and healing.
We do see the nations getting Angry, and the earth is
filled with troubles and violence, just as Christ
foretold that it would be, at the time of his presence
and return.
SO - WHAT IS NEXT ?
What we haven't seen - is the destruction of False
Religion at the hands of The Kings of The earth.
".......Babylon The Great (false religion).......
.....'Come away from her, my people.
Do not take part in her sins,
or you will be punished with her.
For her sins are piled as high as heaven,
and God is ready to judge her for her evil deeds.' "

False religion is likened to a woman and she is called "Babylon The Great".

Why that name?

Evidently her doctrines, teachings, and holidays are based upon
those that originated in Ancient Babylon. Many scholars recognize
ancient Babylon as the beginning of all False Religion.
"In ancient days Satan seemed to make Babylon
the capital of his evil operation. From this
headquarters was started false religion."


Ancient Babylon was noted for its "Mystery"
religion. Nimrod and his son were part of a divine
mystery that no one was able to comprehend.
They were worshipped as "God-the Father" and
"God-the Son" and yet they were not two gods, but
one god split into a trinity. It could not be explained,
and so it was labeled an uncomprehensible "Mystery".
This was the first time that worship had ever been
taken away from Jehovah God, the true God of mankind.
And to this very day, various pagan religions worship
their gods in "trinity". Even Christendom espouses
a belief in a "Mysterious" Trinity doctrine that cannot
be understood by logical means or by human minds.
And here we see - just one aspect of "Babylon The Great"
and her rejection of the Almighty God, Jehovah.

grey/dom
January 21st, 2010, 06:22 AM
4: 171 O people of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: nor say of Allah aught but truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an Apostle of Allah and His Word which He bestowed on Mary and a Spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His Apostles. Say not "Trinity": desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is One Allah: glory be to him: (for Exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.



5: 116 And behold! Allah will say "O Jesus the son of Mary! didst thou say unto men `worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah"? He will say: "Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing Thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart though I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden.


61: 6 And remember Jesus the son of Mary said: "O Children of Israel! I am the apostle of Allah (sent) to you confirming the Law (which came) before me and giving glad Tidings of an Apostle to come after me whose name shall be Ahmad." But when he came to them with Clear Signs they said "This is evident sorcery!"



Sahih Al-Bukhari HadithHadith 4.657 Narrated byAbu Huraira
Allah's Apostle said, "By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, surely (Jesus,) the son of Mary will soon descend amongst you and will judge mankind justly (as a Just Ruler); he will break the Cross and kill the pigs and there will be no Jizya (i.e. taxation taken from non-Muslims). Money will be in abundance so that nobody will accept it, and a single prostration to Allah (in prayer) will be better than the whole world and whatever is in it." Abu Huraira added "If you wish, you can recite (this verse of the Holy Book): 'And there is none Of the people of the Scriptures (Jews and Christians) But must believe in him (i.e Jesus as an Apostle of Allah and a human being) Before his death. And on the Day of Judgment He will be a witness Against them." (4.159) (See Fateh Al Bari, Page 302 Vol 7)

bluelegged
January 21st, 2010, 06:27 AM
"...there is abundant evidence
that all forms of paganism
have come originally from the
ancient Babylonian region."
"There were triads of gods..."

"Does the Trinity make any sense?
...it is beyond our comprehension."
-Being trinitarian:
the shape of saving faith
"Trinity is a mystery as well as a doctrine,
which is beyond our intuitive recognition and faculty.
One God in Three persons, that is the mystery of
the Holy Trinity."


"Babylon The Great" - Today

"Babylon was, at that time,
the center of the civilized world;
and thus Paganism...had opportunities
of sending forth its debased counterfeit
of the truth to all the ends of the earth."
"The researches of modern writers.....
uniformly regard Babylon... as the cradle
of the ancient Paganism."
"There in ancient Babylon were born the false beliefs
that have wormed their way into almost every religion.
Even today millions and millions of people who may want
to live according to the right ways are not aware that
their manner of worship follows very closely that of
ancient idol worship and pagan rites begun at Babel.
People today, calling themselves Christians, keep the
Babylonian festivals of the Solstice at Christmas and
of Easter, which is the festival of Ishtar (the ancient
fertility goddess of Babylon).

"When the early church departed from God
and imbibed pagan errors, she became Babylon.."
- the International Sabbath School Quarterly,

"It was by departure from the LORD,
and alliance with the heathen
that the...church became a harlot."

'The woman, which is the great city, called Babylon,
symbolizes the fallen apostate churches'.... "
defined Babylon as being
"...all the corrupt religious bodies which ever have existed..."
"Just as the fall of literal Babylon led to its
eventual overthrow and obliteration as a nation,
so the fall of its spiritual successor will lead
to its destruction. The tragic end of false Christianity
along with all other false religions, testifies to
God's requirement of purity of faith...."

"BABYLON IS FALLEN"
"Babylon the Great is the secret name.
It is telling us that Babylon the Great
refers to a religious system."
"Babylon’s description as “the great harlot”
refers to the spiritual prostitution and fornication
that categorizes the apostate church."

dsgamefowl
January 21st, 2010, 06:28 AM
4: 171 O people of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: nor say of Allah aught but truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an Apostle of Allah and His Word which He bestowed on Mary and a Spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His Apostles. Say not "Trinity": desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is One Allah: glory be to him: (for Exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.



5: 116 And behold! Allah will say "O Jesus the son of Mary! didst thou say unto men `worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah"? He will say: "Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing Thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart though I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden.


61: 6 And remember Jesus the son of Mary said: "O Children of Israel! I am the apostle of Allah (sent) to you confirming the Law (which came) before me and giving glad Tidings

an Apostle to come after me whose name shall be Ahmad." But when he came to them with Clear Signs they said "This is evident sorcery!"





Bro GD, anong verse sa Koran nakasulat ang " YASSOU' "

antay antay lang ako dito- hala ka kung ano ano kasi angamit mong site


ayan tuloy mag mukha ka naman kenkoy - sige na POST mo dito ang verse na nagsasabi na "YASSOU"

bluelegged
January 21st, 2010, 06:34 AM
Contemplate the Adulterous RelationshipThink of the governments, presidents, dictators, and
various worldly politicians and leaders that have had
extensive dealings with the False religions of the earth.
Just like a worldly human lover often gets tired of his mistress -
they often turn on them and treat them cruelly.

Have you not personally known of men that were having
extra-marital affairs that at some point became inconvenient,
or even perhaps embarassing to their life style or jeopardizing
to the social standing or family life. Often the mistress demands
more attention or more time than the man is willing or able to give.
Such a woman becomes more of a hindrance than a pleasure.

Likewise in comparison - It almost stands to reason that
the political paramours of false religion would get sick and tired
of her religious meddling into worldly politics and the affairs of
government and the political men of the world.
"For centuries the kings and the harlot have appeared
as lovers, but there has been no real love between them.
They each simply used the other to further their own ends.
But now the religious system will have served its purpose,
so the ten kings banish and completely destroy the harlot
(the religious system). Her wealth, buildings, property
will be confiscated, her leaders killed, and everything
else destroyed."

And yet there is even greater reason for the rulers and leaders
of this earth - to destroy all false religion.
And what reason is that ?

God will put it into their hearts.

Is That Next on His Agenda ?

dsgamefowl
January 21st, 2010, 06:41 AM
wala na , mag email ka sa website tanungin mo bakit hindi kompleto

dapat ilagay nila kung anong verse sa koran -

napanood mo ba ang Video Bro GD

tungkolsa JN 8:12

baita ko pati helmet nila meron nakasulat na EZ 23:20 - ha ha ha

bluelegged
January 21st, 2010, 07:10 AM
"SATAN" is the Invisible god
of Christmas

http://xf9.xanga.com/8cdb80526353052749450/z35368700.jpg (http://xf9.xanga.com/8cdb80526353052749450/b35368700.jpg)
Notice in the Christmas Card Above - A child is
depicted on her knees praying to Santa Claus.
Santa is Listening to her prayers. By diverting
children's prayers away from the True God, Jehovah,
Satan is once again attempting to procure praise
for himself - in the form of the pagan god (Santa).
Just rearrange the letters of Santa - and you get - Satan.


The very attributes that are ascribed to Santa Claus,
are truly those of Almighty God, Jehovah, Himself.
The ability to know what all people are doing at all times.
Keeping a List and checking it for reward or punishment.
These are all attributes ascribed to Jehovah God, as
listed in the Bible.
The heavenly God of the Bible, Jehovah, is constantly
watching all of us. He watches and records our deeds,
Even though we cannot see Him, He sees us, and nothing
can be hid from Him, even though it may be done in the dark,
or behind closed doors. In the end he will reward and punish
all of mankind for their deeds.
And now Satan, is giving all these powerful abilities and
attributes to Santa Claus - in defiance of God and in
mockery of God's rightful Sovereignty over mankind.

Mankind tells their children that no matter what they do,
or where they do it - Santa Claus is watching them.
And Santa is making List of their deeds - for future reward
or punishment at Christmas Time.

What Blasphemy. - To give the attributes of the Almighty God,
Jehovah to a mythological god of the pagans.


And What are Those Attributes ?

sibul117
January 21st, 2010, 07:39 AM
"SATAN" is the Invisible god
of Christmas

http://xf9.xanga.com/8cdb80526353052749450/z35368700.jpg



The very attributes that are ascribed to Santa Claus,
are truly those of Almighty God, Jehovah, Himself.
The ability to know what all people are doing at all times.
Keeping a List and checking it for reward or punishment.
These are all attributes ascribed to Jehovah God, as
listed in the Bible.
The heavenly God of the Bible, Jehovah, is constantly
watching all of us. He watches and records our deeds,
Even though we cannot see Him, He sees us, and nothing
can be hid from Him, even though it may be done in the dark,
or behind closed doors. In the end he will reward and punish
all of mankind for their deeds.
And now Satan, is giving all these powerful abilities and
attributes to Santa Claus - in defiance of God and in
mockery of God's rightful Sovereignty over mankind.

Mankind tells their children that no matter what they do,
or where they do it - Santa Claus is watching them.
And Santa is making List of their deeds - for future reward
or punishment at Christmas Time.

What Blasphemy. - To give the attributes of the Almighty God,
Jehovah to a mythological god of the pagans.


And What are Those Attributes ?


blue dapat binigay mo nlang ang link ng mga kacopy paste mo kaya bumabagal ang server dto eh... hwag mo sana mamasamain dami kasi naaapektuhan kapag bumabagal ang site natin.....:rolleyes:

ironchef
January 21st, 2010, 09:02 AM
huh! ang tunay na diyos? ang kaisa-isang diyos ng sanlibutan? sige nga mag post ka dito nyan sinasabi mo na nasa lumang tipan? baka naman libro na ni 'satanas' yan binabasa mo:eek: dimo pa alam!

sa romano katoliko, ang linggo ay 'SUN-DAY' a day of worship their 'SUN GOD'



Kaibigang BL,

Ang aking katanungan ukol sa ang Dios sa lumang tipan sa aklat ng Biblia ay kabuuan na po ng mga kaganapan sa nasabing aklat, marahil ay nalingat sa iyong pansin ang mga madugong digmaang naganap dito at ang mga RADICAL na parusang inihatol sa mga iba't ibang tribu ng mga israelites at ganoon din sa mga non-israelites dahil sa hindi pagsunod sa batas ni Moses at dahil din sa pag entice at pag influence na rin ng mga ito sa mga Israelita na lumihis at tumahak ng ibang landas na di sang ayon sa landas na itinakda sa kanila ng panginoon. Ito ang ilan sa mga events na nakasaad sa lumang tipan...ito ba ang ayon sa iyo na aklat ni Satanas o marahil nakaligtaan mo lamang na bigyan pansin ang mga kaganapang ito??? What i am expecting from you are responses and not REACTIONS...when one reacts it results to AGGRAVATION but when one respond, we are moving towards RESOLUTION! Kaya kung hindi ang Biblia ang aklat ng iyong pananampalataya at maaring hindi mo feel ito at di mo ito nabibigyangyan ng mahalagang pansin ay marahil hindi para sa iyo ang katanungang ito, originally i addressed it para sa mga kaibigang Kristiano. magandang gabi sa iyo kaibigan!---Bro. IC

cryptonite
January 21st, 2010, 09:41 AM
as i wrote earlier, ayan copy paste na naman. pero gaano man kahaba yan, wala ring silbi, dahil kabaliktaran ang nangyayari at napakaliteral ng pagintindi niyo. kaya madali kayung naguyo... kalimitan niyo binobomba mga simbahan ng katoliko, pagpugot ng mga christiano, sabay alahu akbar, yan ba ang religion of peace? sa pagkaintindi yan ay taliwas sa mga sinasabi niyo. subalit magkagayun pa man na binobomba niyo kami, we never reacted as you would always do( burning of effigies evrywhere etc) bagkus ay panalangin ang aming kasagutan sa mga pag atake niyo.

bluelegged
January 21st, 2010, 11:53 AM
PRE IRONCHEF, YUN TANONG MO NANDYAN NA SA MGA POST KO, ANG HABAHABA PA NYAN DI MO BA MAINTINDIHAN? YOU GUYS ARE BEING BLINDFOLDED BY THE VATICAN BOUT THE TRUTH.

GUSTO MO PA BA? BUKAS NA LANG MERON NA ME PASOK E, TUNGKOL NAMAN SA 'THE FALL OF FALSE RELIGION' DYAN MALALAMAN MO SINO MAGPAPABAGSAK, KELAN! YAN YUN PAPACY NOW ANG PABABAGSAKIN NILA, NANGYAYARI NA DIMO BA NAPAPANSIN UNTI UNTI ANG DAMING SALUNGAT NA, BUKING NA E! DUMADAMI NA ANG MATATALINO NGAYON....ISA NA KO DUN:D

cryptonite
January 21st, 2010, 11:59 AM
hahahaba hehehe, puro kayo copy paste, palibhasa copy paste ang paniniwala niyo hahahhaa. bopols ka pala noon...kaya naman pala

ironchef
January 21st, 2010, 12:28 PM
PRE IRONCHEF, YUN TANONG MO NANDYAN NA SA MGA POST KO, ANG HABAHABA PA NYAN DI MO BA MAINTINDIHAN? YOU GUYS ARE BEING BLINDFOLDED BY THE VATICAN BOUT THE TRUTH.

GUSTO MO PA BA? BUKAS NA LANG MERON NA ME PASOK E, TUNGKOL NAMAN SA 'THE FALL OF FALSE RELIGION' DYAN MALALAMAN MO SINO MAGPAPABAGSAK, KELAN! YAN YUN PAPACY NOW ANG PABABAGSAKIN NILA, NANGYAYARI NA DIMO BA NAPAPANSIN UNTI UNTI ANG DAMING SALUNGAT NA, BUKING NA E! DUMADAMI NA ANG MATATALINO NGAYON....ISA NA KO DUN:D

Ang katanungan ko ay kung sa kasalukuyan ay may nakikita kang mga katoliko na sumasamba sa araw out in the open tuwing linggo....oo o hindi lang ang sagot doon eh hindi mo pa rin nasasagot....ang tungkol sa iyong mga pastings ay noong unang panahon iyon...ang katanungan ay ang nasa kasalukuyan, may nakikita ka bang mga tagasunod na tumitingala at sumasamba sa haring araw mula sa pagsikat nito hanggang takipsilim? iyon ang tanong!! meron ba o wala? hindi na natin kailangan ang mga page after page ng mga pastings, ito ay honest na katanungan na nag re-require lamang ng honest na kasagutan at COMMON SENSE!! Wala pong duda na ikaw ay isang "matalinong nilalang"...sana ang talinong ito ay magbibigay sa iyo ng kababaang loob o humility at wisdom!

RIG FARM
January 21st, 2010, 12:35 PM
Ang katanungan ko ay kung sa kasalukuyan ay may nakikita kang mga katoliko na sumasamba sa araw out in the open tuwing linggo....oo ohindi lang ang sagot doon eh hindi mo pa rin nasasagot....ang tungkol sa iyong mga pastings ay noong unang panahon iyon..ang katanungan ay ang sa kasalukuyan may nakikita ka bang mga tagasunod na tumitingala at sumasamba sa haring araw mula sa pagsikat nito hanggang takipsilim? iyon ang tanong!! meron ba o wala? hindi na natin kailangan ang mga page after page ng mga pastings, ito ay honest na katanungan na nag re-require lamang ng honest na kasagutan at COMMON SENSE!!

Ito ang wala si BL kasi ang meron sya NON SENSE..

grey/dom
January 21st, 2010, 01:30 PM
bay ds...ang dami kong tanong na di mo sinagot tapos...tanong ka pa daw at hintay ng sagot? di ka kamao mobasa? mamuti na lang na imong mata...magaling ka lang sa isip mo...ngunit karamihan dito nagsasabi na mali ang mga argumento mo...

konting aral pa....at maging isa ka na ring bombero....mas marami ka pang alam sa bibliya kesa koran...masarap ang buhay na di kulong sa sariling paniwala at relihiyon...maganda ang buhay at mamuhay ng mapayapa ...sana naman ma appreciate ng mga kasama mo sa relihiyon yan...di mo ba alam na payapa ang mga muslim sa cebu kesa ibang lugar? kasi nirespeto nila ang mga katoliko kristyano...at muslim sila ng silay isilang di tulad ng mga balimbing(converts) na me dapat daw patunayan...wala akong sagutin sa mga tanong mo simula ngayon...nagbabahagi lang ako sa mga nalaman ko at nabasa..

sa simula pa sa thread na to sinabi ko at ng ibang kristyano dito

na kung sira man ang bahay na tinutuluyan namin...di namin eto iiwan...bagkus ay ikumpuni namin upang eto ay maging matatag...makasalanan man kami ay tanggap namin basta wala kaming inaapakan ibang tao at inapi o pinaslang dahil lang iba ang paniwala nila...ang sinunod naming Diyos o propeta ay PAG-IBIG ang pinupunla at di KARAHASAN! maski dyan lang muna ang basehan at ang laki na ng kaibahan ng dalawang secta na eto...ang isang copycat ay binibigkas ang original upang paniwalaan...si Hesus at si Gabriel at si Moses at si Abraham ay binabanggit ng libro nyo upang maniwala ang mga tao...ngunit ano ba talaga ang promise ng GOD sa kanila? di ba ang Jerusalem? at ano ba ang pangalan ng DIOS nila...di ba JEHOVAH O YAHWEH? ngayon makikita ba ang ALLAH sa old testament? ano ba ang libro ng pinakahuli? di ba ang koran? saan naman nya kinopya ang laman nya? di ba sa old and new testament?

huwag mo na dagdagan pa ang di mo alam...marami na ang nakapuna....bumabanggit ka pa ng kakampi...dyan makikilala na wala kang sariling panindigan...gusto mo ang sang ayon ng IBA!

dsgamefowl
January 21st, 2010, 02:22 PM
kala ko bright ka sa bibliya...di mo pala alam na ang lahat sa new testament ay si Hesus ang pinagusapan...di mo pala kilala si Hesus...akala ko propeta nyo si Hesus...?

according to mohammad...sino pinagusapan?

Jesus:-


He is called Yassou' in the Quran, a name derived from the Syriac of the Christian Arabs. Most of them were of the Monophysite denomination (Jesus was both human and divine).

anong verse GD para makita natin kung totoo


The Quran refuses to accept the death and resurrection of Jesus since in its 'logic', no prophet can be killed by humans.


With this concept, the Quran eradicates Christianity, since it cannot exist without the death and resurrection of Jesus.


The reader should be made aware, as will eventually unfold in the Quran, that Muhammad's understanding of Christian theology was even more ABYSMAL than his understanding of the religion of the Jews.


2: 136 Say ye: "We believe in Allah and the revelation given to us and to Abraham Isma`il Isaac Jacob and the Tribes [Asbat] and that given to Moses and Jesus and that given to (all) Prophets from their Lord we make no difference between one and another of them and we bow to Allah (in Islam) [wa nahnoo lahoo Muslimoon]

dsgamefowl
January 21st, 2010, 02:37 PM
sa simula pa sa thread na to sinabi ko at ng ibang kristyano dito

na kung sira man ang bahay na tinutuluyan namin...di namin eto iiwan...bagkus ay ikumpuni namin upang eto ay maging matatag...makasalanan man kami ay tanggap namin basta wala kaming inaapakan ibang tao at inapi o pinaslang dahil lang iba ang paniwala nila...ang sinunod naming Diyos o propeta ay PAG-IBIG ang pinupunla at di KARAHASAN! maski dyan lang muna ang basehan at ang laki na ng kaibahan ng dalawang secta na eto...ang isang copycat ay binibigkas ang original upang paniwalaan...si Hesus at si Gabriel at si Moses at si Abraham ay binabanggit ng libro nyo upang maniwala ang mga tao...ngunit ano ba talaga ang promise ng GOD sa kanila? di ba ang Jerusalem? at ano ba ang pangalan ng DIOS nila...di ba JEHOVAH O YAHWEH? ngayon makikita ba ang ALLAH sa old testament? ano ba ang libro ng pinakahuli? di ba ang koran? saan naman nya kinopya ang laman nya? di ba sa old and new testament?

huwag mo na dagdagan pa ang di mo alam...marami na ang nakapuna....bumabanggit ka pa ng kakampi...dyan makikilala na wala kang sariling panindigan...gusto mo ang sang ayon ng IBA!

isa ka rin copy paste, ikaw nag copy paste ng "YASSOU" tawag kay Jesus(pbuh) sa Koran ngayon tinatanong sa iyo kung anong verse hindi mo sasagutin sinungaling ka kung ganun, tapos hindi mo sasagutin ang tanong ko bakit NAHIHIRAPAN KA?

lagi ninyo sinasabi kinopya? bigyan ninyo ng pruweba isang Chapter lang tulad nito

CHAPTER 112


Surah 112 - Al Ikhlas THE PURITY OF FAITH




112.001 Say: He is God, the One and Only;


112.002 God, the Eternal, Absolute;


112.003 He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;

112.004 And there is none like unto Him.



sige na para matapos na yan kung totoo kinopya POST na ninyo kung saan sa Biblya

magtulong tulong na kayo

nirerespeto? bakit hindi ikaw nag request ka Wrigs magbukas ng Thread ng ganito, dapat talakayan huwag magalit TOTOO naman nakasulat lahat sa biblya mo

dsgamefowl
January 21st, 2010, 02:42 PM
Ang katanungan ko ay kung sa kasalukuyan ay may nakikita kang mga katoliko na sumasamba sa araw out in the open tuwing linggo....oo o hindi lang ang sagot doon eh hindi mo pa rin nasasagot....ang tungkol sa iyong mga pastings ay noong unang panahon iyon...ang katanungan ay ang nasa kasalukuyan, may nakikita ka bang mga tagasunod na tumitingala at sumasamba sa haring araw mula sa pagsikat nito hanggang takipsilim? iyon ang tanong!! meron ba o wala? hindi na natin kailangan ang mga page after page ng mga pastings, ito ay honest na katanungan na nag re-require lamang ng honest na kasagutan at COMMON SENSE!! Wala pong duda na ikaw ay isang "matalinong nilalang"...sana ang talinong ito ay magbibigay sa iyo ng kababaang loob o humility at wisdom!

Kaibigan IC, mukhang nahihirapan ata mga kapatid natin na Krsityano o Katoliko sa katanungan mo- hanggang ngayon wala pa rin sagot


pwede ulitin na lang kasi yan si Bro GD pumasok yan ng seminaryo dapat siya ang sasagot :D

cryptonite
January 21st, 2010, 02:52 PM
hindi niyo ho talaga nagets ang taong kung kanino patungkol...
napakavulnerable niyo as I could see in your posting kaya madali kayung naguyo bro ds.
kung anu man ang paniwala mo sayu na lng yan


Kaibigan IC, mukhang nahihirapan ata mga kapatid natin na Krsityano o Katoliko sa katanungan mo- hanggang ngayon wala pa rin sagot


pwede ulitin na lang kasi yan si Bro GD pumasok yan ng seminaryo dapat siya ang sasagot :D

dsgamefowl
January 21st, 2010, 03:07 PM
hindi niyo ho talaga nagets ang taong kung kanino patungkol...
napakavulnerable niyo as I could see in your posting kaya madali kayung naguyo bro ds.
kung anu man ang paniwala mo sayu na lng yan

Bro hindi mo na kailangan payuhan ako ito basahin mo


Surah 109 - Al Kafirun THOSE WHO REJECT FAITH




109.001 Say : O ye that reject Faith!

109.002 I worship not that which ye worship,

109.003 Nor will ye worship that which I worship.

109.004 And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship,

109.005 Nor will ye worship that which I worship.

109.006 To you be your Way, and to me mine

meron po bang ganito sa biblya mo?

cryptonite
January 21st, 2010, 03:26 PM
hindi mo pa rin nagets, KUNG ANUNG PANIWALA NIYO, KUNG ANO MAN SAYO, SA INYO NA LANG. TAMA NA COPYPASTE NIYO, kayo lang naman naniniwala diyan...matagal ko na tinatanong bakit niyo binobomba mga katoliko, kristiyano, ni minsan wala kayong sagot,natabunan na lang, may pa unislamic pakayung nalalaman, religion of peace! saan?

[QUOTE=dsgamefowl]Bro hindi mo na kailangan payuhan ako ito basahin mo

beakheel
January 21st, 2010, 03:31 PM
panay na naman ang kutaltal ng keyboard nina bro ds at bl.....retarded eheste retired na si bl di pa matatapos ito....bakit kamo' eh si bro ds maipo post ng lahat ang laman ng reference site nya pero hindi pa rin maarok ang lohika kung bakit ipinagbawal ang pagsasampay ng damit.
sabi ko naman kahit anong post nyo rito ng mga pasted materials na yan ay null and void pa rin....bakit....kasi sinulat eheste ipinasulat lang yan ng isang karaniwang tao na may pansariling interes at hagom/adik sa laman. ika nga sa modern world ay..........naku ang dami huwag na lang at baka lalong humaba sa kahihingi nila ng paliwanag.

dsgamefowl
January 21st, 2010, 06:10 PM
panay na naman ang kutaltal ng keyboard nina bro ds at bl.....retarded eheste retired na si bl di pa matatapos ito....bakit kamo' eh si bro ds maipo post ng lahat ang laman ng reference site nya pero hindi pa rin maarok ang lohika kung bakit ipinagbawal ang pagsasampay ng damit.
sabi ko naman kahit anong post nyo rito ng mga pasted materials na yan ay null and void pa rin....bakit....kasi sinulat eheste ipinasulat lang yan ng isang karaniwang tao na may pansariling interes at hagom/adik sa laman. ika nga sa modern world ay..........naku ang dami huwag na lang at baka lalong humaba sa kahihingi nila ng paliwanag.

mga Bro's may tanong nga si kaibigan Ironchef sa INYO bakit hindi ninyo sinasagot

ganyan naman kayo kapag nahihirapan sagutin biglang bwelta sa ibang usapan

Bro Cryptonite, ikaw ang hinde nakakaintindi sabi ko hindi mo na ako kailangan pang sabihan niyan

kasi sinusunod ko na ang nakasulat sa Koran


Originally Posted by cryptonite
hindi niyo ho talaga nagets ang taong kung kanino patungkol...
napakavulnerable niyo as I could see in your posting kaya madali kayung naguyo bro ds.
kung anu man ang paniwala mo sayu na lng yan



09.001 Say : O ye that reject Faith!

109.002 I worship not that which ye worship,

109.003 Nor will ye worship that which I worship.

109.004 And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship,

109.005 Nor will ye worship that which I worship.

109.006 To you be your Way, and to me mine

dsgamefowl
January 21st, 2010, 06:25 PM
Sa mga kapatirang Kristiyano,

Bakit po sa aklat ng biblia sa lumang tipan, ang Diyos po dito ay may kabangisan at less merciful and often ay vindictive sending his angels to wipe out a whole community mula sa mga kahayupan, mga bata at mga nakakatanda babae man o lalake at taliwas sa Dios na nasa bagong tipan kung saan siya ay merciful, forgiving at loving God? is it possible na sa old testament ang Dios ay may tantrum at sober naman siya sa testamentong bago? ang inyong mga paliwanag ay papakinggan ng lubusan!---Bro. IC

ayan ha malinaw na katanungan yan ni Bro IC, kung nahihirapan kayo o hindi ninyo alam ang sagot derechahan niyo na lang sabihin na WALA akong alam dyan- ha ha ha

walang sagot sa website yan kasi para sa mga smart na tao lang yan :p :D

cryptonite
January 21st, 2010, 07:19 PM
nabusy lang sa work bro DS
sa kapanahunang yaun ang tao kelangan may sampol, dahil hindi naniniwala.
ayan simply lng ang sagot diyan


ayan ha malinaw na katanungan yan ni Bro IC, kung nahihirapan kayo o hindi ninyo alam ang sagot derechahan niyo na lang sabihin na WALA akong alam dyan- ha ha ha

walang sagot sa website yan kasi para sa mga smart na tao lang yan :p :D

dsgamefowl
January 21st, 2010, 07:21 PM
nabusy lang sa work bro DS
sa kapanahunang yaun ang tao kelangan may sampol, dahil hindi naniniwala.
ayan simply lng ang sagot diyan

ha ha ha hinde na ako mag comment, si kaibigan IC na lang

cryptonite
January 21st, 2010, 07:39 PM
silip2 lang busy eh.
literal na explinasyun yan para sa mga literal umintindi
progresibo po ang mga pangyayari hanggang ngayun hindi pa tapos yan...


ha ha ha hinde na ako mag comment, si kaibigan IC na lang

dsgamefowl
January 21st, 2010, 07:46 PM
silip2 lang busy eh.
literal na explinasyun yan para sa mga literal umintindi
progresibo po ang mga pangyayari hanggang ngayun hindi pa tapos yan...

:) silip silip ka lang ha, kasi pagpasok mamaya ni kaibigan IC siya na mag commento

kasi siya ang nagtanong

grey/dom
January 21st, 2010, 08:22 PM
:) silip silip ka lang ha, kasi pagpasok mamaya ni kaibigan IC siya na mag commento

kasi siya ang nagtanong

napakasimple ang sagot nyan at alam nyan sa bawat kristyano...kung nagtatanong man si IC ay patungkol yan sa mga hindi talaga totoong disipulo ni Kristo...sa mga peke at pirated dvds..

Because GOD so love the world that He sent His only begotten Son to save mankind from His wrath....ano ba ang promise ng GOD ke Noah?

iba ang pagkakaintindi ng mga tao sa Panginoon...kaya pinadala si Jesus upang lalong maintindihan...that GOD is LOVE....the new testament is a new hope for mankind that there is still salvation and mankind can share heaven with GOD...and GOD is GOD of forgiveness...at saka ituwid ang maraming maling akala maling pagkakilala sa Poong Maykapal!

bro bl...bakit ba me demonyo? harap ka ng salamin at malalaman mo...hehehehe...:D

tanungin mo si bro ds nyan...di klaro yan sa koran...ewan kung naniwala sila dyan...mga bombero nila ay sa langit pumupunta...with lot of virgins rewards..

bluelegged
January 21st, 2010, 08:39 PM
[quote=grey/dom]
bro bl...bakit ba me demonyo? harap ka ng salamin at malalaman mo...hehehehe...:D


BA, BAKET SAKEN MO ITATANONG YAN? YUN VATICAN GUMAGAMIT NYAN NGAYON DIMO BA NABASA MGA POST KO TUNGKOL KAY SEMIRAMIS AT NIMROD? MERON NA PALA MOTHER N CHILD NUN NOH, NAGING HUSBAND N WIFE PA, ANO BA YAN???

BASAHIN MO MABUTI YUN POST KO LAHAT MAKIKITA MO PAGKATAPOS MO BASAHIN PARA KANG ISANG TUNAY NA ALAGAD NG DIYOS, HINDI YUN PAGAN GOD HA:p

grey/dom
January 21st, 2010, 08:57 PM
[quote=grey/dom]
bro bl...bakit ba me demonyo? harap ka ng salamin at malalaman mo...hehehehe...:D


BA, BAKET SAKEN MO ITATANONG YAN? YUN VATICAN GUMAGAMIT NYAN NGAYON DIMO BA NABASA MGA POST KO TUNGKOL KAY SEMIRAMIS AT NIMROD? MERON NA PALA MOTHER N CHILD NUN NOH, NAGING HUSBAND N WIFE PA, ANO BA YAN???

BASAHIN MO MABUTI YUN POST KO LAHAT MAKIKITA MO PAGKATAPOS MO BASAHIN PARA KANG ISANG TUNAY NA ALAGAD NG DIYOS, HINDI YUN PAGAN GOD HA:p

tawanan na lang kita...makalingaw sad ka da....nalibang ako sa yo bro blue boy!:D

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

wrigleycanada
January 21st, 2010, 09:10 PM
[QUOTE=bluelegged]

tawanan na lang kita...makalingaw sad ka da....nalibang ako sa yo bro blue boy!:D

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Mahirap makipagtalo sa mga taong sala ang parameters na ginagamit. Kung itinuturing nilang theory ang "God" in the bible eh mas lalo namang malayo sa facts yung post ni Blue Boy. Samakatuwid eh parehas lang na by faith ang acceptance ng ating mga arguments rito. Kung parehas Theory sino ang mas malapit sa katotohanan. Palagay ko naman ay hindi magkakamili ang Milyong taong nag-scrutinize sa bible. Sabi nga ni Blaise Pascal na isang renowned Physicist at Philisopher eh there will be more harm than good without believing God. Take your choice and Blaise Pascal made the right chice in Believing with God!

nicontrina
January 21st, 2010, 09:21 PM
ayan ha malinaw na katanungan yan ni Bro IC, kung nahihirapan kayo o hindi ninyo alam ang sagot derechahan niyo na lang sabihin na WALA akong alam dyan- ha ha ha

walang sagot sa website yan kasi para sa mga smart na tao lang yan :p :D

aminin mo na kasi ang totoo
si Jesus ang fulfillment sa old testament
samantalang si muhammad ay naging inspiration nya yan tungo sa kasamaan

bakit?

fulfillment dahil sa mga revelations na sa pamamagitang ng holy spirit nagkaroon ng mirakulo sa panganakan ni Jesus thru virgin Mary
inspiration ni muhammad ay ang nakasaad sa Deutronomy 18:18 na nakasulat ay "like unto moses" kaya nagimbento na nakauasp nya ang isang anghel at doon nagsimulang ipasulat ang mga revelaions sa ibangtao dahil nga hindi sya marunong magsulat. at mismo ginaya na nya ang mga nagawa ni moses, madaming asawa pero di nakagawa ni isang miracle.
hindi lang naman ngitngit o galit ang ipinakita ng Diyos sa old testament
nakikita naman na si Jesus ay syang halimbawa sa mga aral na nagpapakita ng isang magandang halimbawa o ang pagiging isang maawain
tulad ng nasa Old testament sa exodus34
6 And the LORD passed by before him, and proclaimed, The LORD, The LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth,

7 Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation

tignan ninyo ang mga ipinasulat ni muhamad sa kanyang writer
mga ngitngit at puro kasamaan laban sa kanilang kaaway

malinaw na sa mga magagandang aral si Jesus ang fulfillment samantalang ang pinaniniwalaan ng mga muslim na greatest prophet ay naging isang halimbawa lamang ng kung anong masamang nagawa ni moses upang sya ang masasabing like unto moses sa deut 18:18

nicontrina
January 21st, 2010, 09:36 PM
napakasimple ang sagot nyan at alam nyan sa bawat kristyano...kung nagtatanong man si IC ay patungkol yan sa mga hindi talaga totoong disipulo ni Kristo...sa mga peke at pirated dvds..

Because GOD so love the world that He sent His only begotten Son to save mankind from His wrath....ano ba ang promise ng GOD ke Noah?

iba ang pagkakaintindi ng mga tao sa Panginoon...kaya pinadala si Jesus upang lalong maintindihan...that GOD is LOVE....the new testament is a new hope for mankind that there is still salvation and mankind can share heaven with GOD...and GOD is GOD of forgiveness...at saka ituwid ang maraming maling akala maling pagkakilala sa Poong Maykapal!

bro bl...bakit ba me demonyo? harap ka ng salamin at malalaman mo...hehehehe...:D

tanungin mo si bro ds nyan...di klaro yan sa koran...ewan kung naniwala sila dyan...mga bombero nila ay sa langit pumupunta...with lot of virgins rewards..
nice one bro well said
sa aral bahala ka na
sa history ako ang bahala kay muhammad
kay azul bahala na ang mental hospital dyan:D :D

ironchef
January 21st, 2010, 09:38 PM
Kaibigang BL,

Tahol ka ng tahol sa mga katoliko nating kaibigan na ayon sa iyo ay sumasamba sa haring araw (Sun Worship) na hindi mo naman nakikitaan maliban sa mga paganong matagal ng pumanaw noong makalumang kapanahunan, subalit iyong nakakaligtaan na sa pananampalatayang Islam sa kasalukuyan ay mahalaga ang phases ng buwan at ito'y gumaganap na napakakamahalagang bagay sa religious festival ng ramadan kung saan ito ay tinatawag na moving festival ay dahil ito ay tunay na itinutugma sa phases ng buwan lalong lalo na sa lati-ang buwan o ng crescent moon at itoy nagtatapos sa pagsibul ulit ng lati-ang buwan at dahil bawat calendar month ay hindi pare-pareho ang mga phases ng buwan..kaalinsabay nito ang pag lilinis sa mga kasalanan at pag gawa ng mabuti upang makamtan ang pagpapatawad at ang hinahangad na kadakilaan. Hanggang sa kasalukuyan at sa mga isanglibot isang daang taon o mahigit pa ay magpapatuloy na magkakaroon ng importanteng papel ang ganireng phase ng buwang lati-an (crescent moon) upang maisakatuparan ang religious festivities ng ramadan. Sa madaling sabi...ang pananampalatayang islam ay mas higit na nagbibigay halaga sa bagay na ito na ating nasisilayan sa ibabaw ng kalangitan (heavenly bodies) katulad ng lati-ang buwan na hindi magiging ganap ang festival ng ramadan kung wala ito. Bago mo isinaalang-alang ang iyong kapusukan ay sana ito'y iyong na i consider man lamang. Ikaw ba'y nakitaan nang mga imahen o simbolo ng haring araw sa bawat tuktok ng katolikong simbahan?? nakikita mo ba maliban sa watawat ng pilipinas ang imahen ng haring araw sa mga watawat ng mga bansang katoliko katulad ng imahen ng lati-ang buwan o crescent moon sa bawat minareth at watawat ng mga islamic na bansang nasa ilalim nito??...wala po tayong pinapanigan, tanging personal na observacion po lamang!

grey/dom
January 21st, 2010, 10:13 PM
nice one bro well said
sa aral bahala ka na
sa history ako ang bahala kay muhammad
kay azul bahala na ang mental hospital dyan:D :D

tnx bro...minsan nakakapagod ang ganitong usapin....buti na lang andyan si blue boy...at intindihin na lang at tawanan ang mga patutsada nya....di dapat seryosohin...kasi he is in serious condition....in his loneliness...he will still seek GOD and ask forgiveness ....

sibul117
January 21st, 2010, 10:16 PM
napakasimple ang sagot nyan at alam nyan sa bawat kristyano...kung nagtatanong man si IC ay patungkol yan sa mga hindi talaga totoong disipulo ni Kristo...sa mga peke at pirated dvds..

Because GOD so love the world that He sent His only begotten Son to save mankind from His wrath....ano ba ang promise ng GOD ke Noah?

iba ang pagkakaintindi ng mga tao sa Panginoon...kaya pinadala si Jesus upang lalong maintindihan...that GOD is LOVE....the new testament is a new hope for mankind that there is still salvation and mankind can share heaven with GOD...and GOD is GOD of forgiveness...at saka ituwid ang maraming maling akala maling pagkakilala sa Poong Maykapal!

bro bl...bakit ba me demonyo? harap ka ng salamin at malalaman mo...hehehehe...:D

tanungin mo si bro ds nyan...di klaro yan sa koran...ewan kung naniwala sila dyan...mga bombero nila ay sa langit pumupunta...with lot of virgins rewards..bro Grey/Dom ang galing mo din magbiro pero may katotohanan naman....:D

wrigleycanada
January 21st, 2010, 11:03 PM
tnx bro...minsan nakakapagod ang ganitong usapin....buti na lang andyan si blue boy...at intindihin na lang at tawanan ang mga patutsada nya....di dapat seryosohin...kasi he is in serious condition....in his loneliness...he will still seek GOD and ask forgiveness ....
I second the Motion.

Shallow Hal yang si Blue Boy.

f2gade
January 22nd, 2010, 12:08 AM
tnx bro...minsan nakakapagod ang ganitong usapin....buti na lang andyan si blue boy...at intindihin na lang at tawanan ang mga patutsada nya....di dapat seryosohin...kasi he is in serious condition....in his loneliness...he will still seek GOD and ask forgiveness ....

pesensyahan nyo na si blue boy ganyan talaga yan pag masyado ng loaded diaper nya at di pa pinapalitan...:D