pure duke hulsey

[randcofmaui]

Where can I find the pure old duke hulsey in the world?

[Gallos Locos]

Quite a few breeders have maintained these lines in Luzon an Negros.

[ligas_paka2006]

Negros Island breeders still has this bloodlines..some breeders preserve this strain.......

[windjammer2]

Yes Negros did dominate the competition with the Lemons.But for those who knew, some of the best are here in Luzon.:hippie:

[sigbin_747]

Maybe a handful of luzon breeders have some good lemons but NOT as good as the negros island ones; take note that this bloodline originated from that island and you can never take that status or title away from them easily without a fight , they are the main source and the roots of this strain, if you want excellent lemons

[mfuentebella]

;)

[windjammer2]

Sigbin, yes Mr.Paeng Araneta originated the line and started breeding them in Negros. But in 1974 he transfered his operation in Baguio at my uncle's place. And until 1992 or '93 was breeding in Lipa. There's a lot of versions of the Hulsey line. And a handful was brought in by some breeders from Negros. But the one that stood out was the one developed by Mr. Araneta. And the best was acquired by a known breeder in Luzon when Mr.Araneta went to the States in the early 80's. I myself is from Negros but what i'm stating are just facts. Everyone knows that some of the best can be found and still in Negros. But for some who tried and tested personally the version here in Luzon, and being successful with it, it just proves that there's no monopoly to it.:hippie:

[kickcut44]

anyone who wanted good stocks go to Peter Uy, he's the man when you need bloodlines.

Kaya bilib si Emoy diyan

[windjammer2]

Yes KC, Peter Uy has maintained them pretty well. Part of my experience and little success was due to his Lemon lines.But his other lines works just as well.:hippie:

[ROD610]

Not necessarily that Paeng's Lemon 84 stood out. Remember, Freddie Yulo got his in 1968 w/c are the left-ins and Junior Cuaycong w/ his handler Mang Otic Geroso, got theirs directly in 1969 from Duke Hulsey w/ Nene Araneta in Baguio. They were the left-ins, brothers of Freddie Yulo's left-in lemons. Just like the 84s, Left-in Lemons got their share in derbies and they're straight combs. Bob Cuenca's were left-ins, Joe Laureno's were left-ins, and the late Nonoy Jalandoni's lemons were left-ins. :cool:

[desertfire]

me mga nakita ako na mga ginamit nila Atty. salud ng winning time jobo sa WSC mga duke hulsey ang gagaling ang sisipag pumalo any idea kung saan galing yung mga manokis na yun.? thanks

[ROD610]

Atty. Salud fights mostly Hinlo fowls and Danilo Hinlo's Lemons were of the Guillermo "baby" Araneta Left-ins Lemon strain then was crossed to Batchoy Alunan's Lemon and then to Billy Abbott's Lacy Roundhead. This story came from Mang Ernie Hinojas Sr. (editor-in-chief of Phil. Cocking Journal). Take note, again, it's a left-ins strain. Even myself, is a Lemon fanatic now heheh. :lol:

[frederick sy]

Mr.Eddie Boy Ledesma has preserved this line very well that he is winning with this bloodline today,i saw his pure left-in beat the lights out of a formidable entry during the last Candelaria entry,no doubt in my mind that Mr.Eddie Boy is the winningest Hulsey breeder today.Last week he sent my brother an autographed picture of himself holding a pure hulsey and there he wrote "For the love of Hulsey" he signed.

[desertfire]

Rod610, Frederick Sy,

thanks for the information this lemon hulsey are really the real long knife fighterany idea of this price or does anybody here does have an extra pullet just kindly Pm me pls. thanks a lot

[vincent calvin]

Randofmaui and to others

to anyone who are loking "Hulsey Lines" I can recommend you to a person I've known before and a humble friend.

but I'm not sure if�@he will sell�@you pure a Hulsey Line its up to you to communicate (nakukuha yan sa mabuting pakikiusap)...
his name is Mr. PHILIP NERY of Majestic Farm in Batangas,
masipag pumalo ang kanyang mga hulsey line at ito ang kanyang mga winning line ' but only if he share his line OK !!!)

[desertfire]

thanks a lot vincent for the information
Sir vincent do you have his line of hulseys? maybe you could spare me one. thanks

[stinger]

Mr. Elpidio Lalap of ETL FARMS still keep the pure Duke Hulsey's. I got one hen from him to match with my Possum/$5000 cross broodcock...

[ROD610]

Hulsey's were already in the hands by prominent families in Bacolod before the 84s came out. Definitely, Paeng didn't develop the Lemon strain but the 84s. However, he already had some lemons before he got the 84. Batchoy was part of it and other Big Wigs like the late Mayor Nonoy Jalandoni but again, its their own version of lemon. Tracing back the origin of the Lemon is really a tough subject.

[reongmanchi63]

:rolleyes:

[nicontrina]

during the 60's don amado araneta likes the fighting style of the cocks of dr javelona. he asked where he got these cocks and he replied from duke hulsey. so don amado invited duke in the PI to fight his roosters and the rest is history.

duke 1st brought in yellow legged mostly straightcomb cross of hatch buther claret that is now what we call the LEMONS. these are the lemons that don amado got and gave some of these to the yulo
brothers who are responsible of propagating this in negros.

[windjammer2]

Nicontrina, I'm glad to know your input regarding Mr. Javelona. He brought in, from Duke Hulsey a line which again is a totally different from the SC left-ins and the 84's. They are what Duke calls the 'Smutty'. They are Hatch basically. Mr. Paulino Ochoa of Batangas bought and brought that line in Luzon. When the man decided to quit the game, Mr. Peter Uy purchased them and up to now maintains them.:hippie:

[nicontrina]

well said sir, can you give as further inputs on the difference bet. the smutty and the 84's/ SC left-in with regards to their bloodlines. are the smutty pure hatch or cross to other bloodline.

thanks

[rl123]

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i92/relee123/-nfinity-046.jpg
sir jam galing po maynila ang manok dala ng pinsan ko hulsey po daw?..my JVL wingband cya. ano po JVL means? ano po kaya ang blood composition nya talaga?

[nicontrina]

rl123

Joe V Laureno, trusted man sya ni Batchoy Alunan noong buhay pa sya kaya malamang Batchoy lemon yan. yong mga unang batchoy lemons ang pagkakaalam do ay straight comb, kaya malamang cross sa sweater yan (opinion lang po)

[vincent calvin]

windjamir2

I'l look forward to your farm�@when I'l come home to Phiippines OK!!!!! And Thanks!!!

[rl123]

sir nico kahit opinion lang yan pero malaking tulong yan thank you very
much sa info.....

[windjammer2]

There's a lot of difference with the three said lines. The Smuttys basically straight Hatch, and to give credit to the Man who brought them and bred them here in Luzon, they're called the Ochoa Blueface. But occasionally they come out peacomb, so they are Blueface Mclean blends. The Left-ins came in 1963-66. 100% straight comb yellow legged family, other's call them the Batchoys. The 84 cock was a pea-comb yellow leg. Blended with the early lemons of Mr.Araneta, when a series of in-breeding was made to the original cock, the Green Leg came about and was maintained into another sub-family. They are also known as the Super Typhoon.:hippie:

[nicontrina]

duke hulsey then stands among the best and most influencial american breeder. he has the most lines than any other american breeders had that became a new strains suited for filipino knife.

[karan]

you can contact mr. philip g. neri of majestic farm...for his hulsey(1964)
#0917-5290959
tel. 9412462...

[dantes_pick61]

authentic from la carlota city......LEMON

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/dante_pick61/DSC00117.jpg?t=1226564859

[dantes_pick61]

green legged hulsey 3xwinner

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/dante_pick61/DSC00248.jpg?t=1226651002

[dantes_pick61]

green legged hulsey

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/dante_pick61/dante196.jpg?t=1226651126

[dantes_pick61]

green legged hulsey

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/dante_pick61/dante102.jpg?t=1226651225

[vanvan]

so sir windjammer2 (http://sabong.net.ph/forum/member.php?u=14977) you mean to say in luzon ka peter have the best lemon84?
and sir can u share us your experience of the said bloodline?]
and what bloodline is the best to meet for breeding purposes?
thank you sir and God bless..........................

[windjammer2]

so sir windjammer2 (http://sabong.net.ph/forum/member.php?u=14977) you mean to say in luzon ka peter have the best lemon84?
and sir can u share us your experience of the said bloodline?]
and what bloodline is the best to meet for breeding purposes?
thank you sir and God bless..........................

Vanvan, I would safely say that Mr. Peter Uy has definitely the best authentic 84 lines (YL and GL). My personal experience with them started in 1993 when I first met my friend, Francis Afable who we all know is a big fan of the 84 line. And up to present, are winning and competitive at todays top level competition. One must be aware of its merits and also its drawbacks, can be corrected with the right blends and crosses. They cross very well with most bloodlines, specifically with green and yellow leg Hatches, Sweaters and Albanys.

[karachisweater]

mga boss magkano ba ang pullet na lemon 84 kay mr. peter uy or mr. paeng araneta? si mr ledesma po ay hindi na kasi naglalabas ng hulsey nya.
naka acquire kasi ako ng broodcock na hulsey sa iloilo. un po ung avatar ko

[windjammer2]

mga boss magkano ba ang pullet na lemon 84 kay mr. peter uy or mr. paeng araneta? si mr ledesma po ay hindi na kasi naglalabas ng hulsey nya.
naka acquire kasi ako ng broodcock na hulsey sa iloilo. un po ung avatar ko
Contact # of Peter Uy 0917-2537635

[vanvan]

Vanvan, I would safely say that Mr. Peter Uy has definitely the best authentic 84 lines (YL and GL). My personal experience with them started in 1993 when I first met my friend, Francis Afable who we all know is a big fan of the 84 line. And up to present, are winning and competitive at todays top level competition. One must be aware of its merits and also its drawbacks, can be corrected with the right blends and crosses. They cross very well with most bloodlines, specifically with green and yellow leg Hatches, Sweaters and Albanys. wow...... sir do you practice meet or cross with the two said bloodlines(YL & GL) can we fight these lines straight?
:D thank you very much sir windjammer............God Bless po...............

[windjammer2]

Blends of the YL and GL perform exceptionally well as long as you can produce a lot so you can select the good stationed ones to fight. But yes, I fought and won with the pures.

[lon051500]

well very well said sir windjammer2 thanks 4 d info...

[vanvan]

debts to you sir........and thank you very much more wins to com>>>>>>>>

[buddy]

Our MTB group fought mostly straight lemon-lemonan and their crosses with decent result (NSSA Stag Fighter 2008 - Scoring 9 Wins & 2 Draw).

[SuperMax]

Not necessarily that Paeng's Lemon 84 stood out. Remember, Freddie Yulo got his in 1968 w/c are the left-ins and Junior Cuaycong w/ his handler Mang Otic Geroso, got theirs directly in 1969 from Duke Hulsey w/ Nene Araneta in Baguio. They were the left-ins, brothers of Freddie Yulo's left-in lemons. Just like the 84s, Left-in Lemons got their share in derbies and they're straight combs. Bob Cuenca's were left-ins, Joe Laureno's were left-ins, and the late Nonoy Jalandoni's lemons were left-ins. :cool:

You are right sir! Paeng is better known for his Lemon 84s which stood out since the 1960s. But one has to distinguish the Lemon 84s from the Hulsey Left Ins. In my talks with some of the Hulsey breeders in Negros, they indeed separate the lines. Nevertheless, both authentic lines of lemons excel anywhere in the country and can stand the rigors of blending, inbreeding and outcrossing. Maybe this strong genetic make-up is the secret of their longevity as a breed, if you can call them such.

[SuperMax]

mga boss magkano ba ang pullet na lemon 84 kay mr. peter uy or mr. paeng araneta? si mr ledesma po ay hindi na kasi naglalabas ng hulsey nya.
naka acquire kasi ako ng broodcock na hulsey sa iloilo. un po ung avatar ko

From whom did you get your Hulsey? Maybe I can help you find some pullets that can be mated with your brood cock so you can produce higher grades of the Hulsey.

[linoj]

The best that you can get a Hulsey is from Manuel Massa, but MM passed away already, Manuel was a breeder of Duke Hulsey and he knows everything on what are the Duke Hulsey Fowls is all about rather than Duke Hulsey information caused he is not who breed his fowl, I knew one who is a sabong member used to buy a fowl from MM, they have good records in big time cock derbies as well as the bakbakan and NFGB stag derbies especially in souhtern philippines(Wester Mindanao).

[mckurt]

q's, how different are the left in's hulsey's wayback compare to the hulsey's of american breeders today?

[linoj]

The best that you can get a fowl for your hen is to select the one of your preferred style of fighting, We almost tested all kinds of combination of breeds but we end up selecting those winning fowls and not the names. If you fancy of entertainment kind of style such as Paython Democratz, Ding Fair 5k and others then go for it, but be careful of selecting the best one..

[karachisweater]

From whom did you get your Hulsey? Maybe I can help you find some pullets that can be mated with your brood cock so you can produce higher grades of the Hulsey.
sir supermax i have a pm to you. the original parent stocks came from bob cuenca.

[karachisweater]

The best that you can get a Hulsey is from Manuel Massa, but MM passed away already, Manuel was a breeder of Duke Hulsey and he knows everything on what are the Duke Hulsey Fowls is all about rather than Duke Hulsey information caused he is not who breed his fowl, I knew one who is a sabong member used to buy a fowl from MM, they have good records in big time cock derbies as well as the bakbakan and NFGB stag derbies especially in souhtern philippines(Wester Mindanao).

sir Linoj, I agree with you kasi cocker po si mr. hulsey. Can you help me sir get some massa lemon from them? i know acquiring these line now adays is very hard . They are very rare and the authentics are hard to find. I know through friendships it wont that impossible.

[karachisweater]

what is the real name of duke hulsey? can someone provide a biography?

[ivanfarm]

Where can I find the pure old duke hulsey in the world?the only pure hulsey that you can find now is blackmamba mr cervantes they got all the line of mr hulsey when he was still alive

[karachisweater]

the only pure hulsey that you can find now is blackmamba mr cervantes they got all the line of mr hulsey when he was still alive

sir ivan do you have their farm site?

[ivanfarm]

Where can I find the pure old duke hulsey in the world?if you are from the philippines, i can help you

[ivanfarm]

sir ivan do you have their farm site?i will call mr cervantes try blackmamba site

[karachisweater]

i will call mr cervantes try blackmamba site

sir ivan san ba farm nila? within luzon lang ba or within the visayas or mindanao? I just dont know if the massa lemon are left ins of duke hulsey.

[ivanfarm]

sir ivan san ba farm nila? within luzon lang ba or within the visayas or mindanao? I just dont know if the massa lemon are left ins of duke hulsey.they live here in texas about two hrs away from me i lived here in houston ,he got good quality stock

[ivanfarm]

sir ivan sean ba farm nila? within luzon lang ba or within the visayas or mindanao? I just dont know if the massa lemon are left ins of duke hulsey. i used them for crosses, check cvgba ivanfarm i got 8w 2l sa bakbakkan or our site cvcc

[karachisweater]

i used them for crosses, check cvgba ivanfarm i got 8w 2l sa bakbakkan or our site cvcc

nice score sir, I know lemons are really legends. I am planning to use hulsey as my base blood in my breeding so i am scouting were to acquire the best and authentic hulsey blood. they are just so rare nowadays.

[vanjoe]

I have a 2 year old hulsey hen 2 from juancho aguirre and the other one is from mang Otic are you interested I will sell it very cheap Im planning to stop my chickens coz my partner my dad decided to quit...pm me

[karachisweater]

I have a 2 year old hulsey hen 2 from juancho aguirre and the other one is from mang Otic are you interested I will sell it very cheap Im planning to stop my chickens coz my partner my dad decided to quit...pm me

sir I have a pm for you.

[linoj]

nice score sir, I know lemons are really legends. I am planning to use hulsey as my base blood in my breeding so i am scouting were to acquire the best and authentic hulsey blood. they are just so rare nowadays.

Karachisweater,

Lots of breeders have their own version of lemons, such as Trebol, Aguire, Boy Ledezma(not selling even somebody asking 250t a trio and i'm quite surprize), Nonoy Jalandoni, Joe Laurenio, Bob Cuenca, Danilo Hinlo, Paeng Araneta and many-many more in Bacolod Breeders. My suggestion to you is look for a friend/relatives that can help to acquire the lemon bloodline from this guys. I have already experienced of failures of acquiring fowls without strong connection to the breeders, not all of their breeds have good records and they can easily sell to whoever they wanted.

[SuperMax]

Karachisweater,

Lots of breeders have their own version of lemons, such as Trebol, Aguire, Boy Ledezma(not selling even somebody asking 250t a trio and i'm quite surprize), Nonoy Jalandoni, Joe Laurenio, Bob Cuenca, Danilo Hinlo, Paeng Araneta and many-many more in Bacolod Breeders. My suggestion to you is look for a friend/relatives that can help to acquire the lemon bloodline from this guys. I have already experienced of failures of acquiring fowls without strong connection to the breeders, not all of their breeds have good records and they can easily sell to whoever they wanted.

You are very right sir! My suggestion is for him to make friends with them first and study their Hulseys and when ready and if he thinks that his Brood cock will create a nick with the hen of a particular Hulsey breeder, then he can make the purchase. At P250k, one should not and cannot make a mistake.

[linoj]

You are very right sir! My suggestion is for him to make friends with them first and study their Hulseys and when ready and if he thinks that his Brood cock will create a nick with the hen of a particular Hulsey breeder, then he can make the purchase. At P250k, one should not and cannot make a mistake.

Yes, but must better to receive a gift material fowl from a friend :), mostly, offspring of this fowl gives high winning of percentage, a true friend will not give reject fowls unless you wanted and they will also warn you. A 250k fowl can make a mistake to 50/50. But a true friend at least gives 70% of winning. I heard the late Emoy Gorgonia that somebody gave him a fowl from bacolod that won 5x with him.

[GG Crasher]

Yes, but must better to receive a gift material fowl from a friend :), mostly, offspring of this fowl gives high winning of percentage, a true friend will not give reject fowls unless you wanted and they will also warn you. A 250k fowl can make a mistake to 50/50. But a true friend at least gives 70% of winning. I heard the late Emoy Gorgonia that somebody gave him a fowl from bacolod that won 5x with him.
agreed...materials that was given as a gift from a friend is priceless...

[aurora gold]

The best that you can get a Hulsey is from Manuel Massa, but MM passed away already, Manuel was a breeder of Duke Hulsey and he knows everything on what are the Duke Hulsey Fowls is all about rather than Duke Hulsey information caused he is not who breed his fowl, I knew one who is a sabong member used to buy a fowl from MM, they have good records in big time cock derbies as well as the bakbakan and NFGB stag derbies especially in souhtern philippines(Wester Mindanao).
owen mcginnis was the breeder of duke hulsey.........
duke was the cockfighter...............
fought them lemons and made them famous in the philippines

it is like when..........lance dela torre was unknown before
when patrick antonio was winning everywhere
.............with lance fowl
and nobody knew then who lance dela torre was

but poor owen.........didn`t get the chance
to be known and recognize..........it was always duke

duke was a good feeder.........and a good selector

[linoj]

owen mcginnis was the breeder of duke hulsey.........
duke was the cockfighter...............
fought them lemons and made them famous in the philippines

it is like when..........lance dela torre was unknown before
when patrick antonio was winning everywhere
.............with lance fowl
and nobody knew then who lance dela torre was

but poor owen.........didn`t get the chance
to be known and recognize..........it was always duke

duke was a good feeder.........and a good selector

A wife can be replace when the time comes, how much more to a breeder which is not the partner in life.

[kogmohon]

A wife can be replace when the time comes, how much more to a breeder which is not the partner in life.


cebuanos do not replace their wives...they add

[RalSuBirds]

cebuanos do not replace their wives...they add

... ha ha ... you did it "kogmohonically" again Sir KOGGIE ..... you had a looong pause ....

... you must have enjoyed your chicken haven by the sea :cool:

.

[linoj]

cebuanos do not replace their wives...they add

I did..

[karachisweater]

Karachisweater,

Lots of breeders have their own version of lemons, such as Trebol, Aguire, Boy Ledezma(not selling even somebody asking 250t a trio and i'm quite surprize), Nonoy Jalandoni, Joe Laurenio, Bob Cuenca, Danilo Hinlo, Paeng Araneta and many-many more in Bacolod Breeders. My suggestion to you is look for a friend/relatives that can help to acquire the lemon bloodline from this guys. I have already experienced of failures of acquiring fowls without strong connection to the breeders, not all of their breeds have good records and they can easily sell to whoever they wanted.

sir lino,

Thanks for the advice... I really appreciate it. I am more cautious now regarding acquisition of fowl. i ma scouting for next year acquisition. It would give me enough time time to check. besides I would not buy 250K for a trio, I would rather use it for a more beneficial investment.

[linoj]

sir lino,

Thanks for the advice... I really appreciate it. I am more cautious now regarding acquisition of fowl. i ma scouting for next year acquisition. It would give me enough time time to check. besides I would not buy 250K for a trio, I would rather use it for a more beneficial investment.

Good Luck.

[vanjoe]

hehehe me I cannot change my lemons to the famous sweaters

[reslingblade]

sir Linoj, I agree with you kasi cocker po si mr. hulsey. Can you help me sir get some massa lemon from them? i know acquiring these line now adays is very hard . They are very rare and the authentics are hard to find. I know through friendships it wont that impossible.
sinor massa main breed is kelso hatch and grey

[linoj]

sinor massa main breed is kelso hatch and grey

You are right, thats what Manuel Massa told me before. But he's more focus on the Hatch kelso breeds rather than the Greys.

[redzone]

...duke hulsey's hatch were smuttys... redzone ...

http://s400.photobucket.com/albums/pp84/redzone_gff/?action=view&current=anothersmuttycock.jpg

[lanipao]

...duke hulsey's hatch were smuttys... redzone ...

http://s400.photobucket.com/albums/pp84/redzone_gff/?action=view&current=anothersmuttycock.jpg

beautiful fowl.

[GG Crasher]

cebuanos do not replace their wives...they add
kogs,
bull's eye....but i believe daguhoy's descendant too....

[GG Crasher]

...duke hulsey's hatch were smuttys... redzone ...

http://s400.photobucket.com/albums/pp84/redzone_gff/?action=view&current=anothersmuttycock.jpg
you have a top gun game bird....best of luck

[frontier]

owen mcginnis was the breeder of duke hulsey.........
duke was the cockfighter...............
fought them lemons and made them famous in the philippines

it is like when..........lance dela torre was unknown before
when patrick antonio was winning everywhere
.............with lance fowl
and nobody knew then who lance dela torre was

but poor owen.........didn`t get the chance
to be known and recognize..........it was always duke

duke was a good feeder.........and a good selector

good info glad to know someone knows. Im lucky to know a man real well that was friends with Owen. Main lines of Owen were hatch and kelso and grey. the lemons were a combo of these three...

[kogmohon]

good info glad to know someone knows. Im lucky to know a man real well that was friends with Owen. Main lines of Owen were hatch and kelso and grey. the lemons were a combo of these three...


and where will you put the butcher in the equation...is there a lemon 83?

[karachisweater]

good info glad to know someone knows. Im lucky to know a man real well that was friends with Owen. Main lines of Owen were hatch and kelso and grey. the lemons were a combo of these three...

I am fond of reading and I did not find any write up like this one. All I have red is a hatch claret butcher blend.:D

[mechalle]

good info for a newbie like me. keep going..

[windjammer2]

Owen is one of the breeders that supplies Duke Hulsey some fowls, but there are many versions or different lines that Duke shipped here in P.I. during a long span of time. I would put main emphasis on the ff: Smutty or Dukes Blueface shipped to Dr. Javelona in 1959. 1963 - 1966 Straightcomb Lemonhackled that was the mainlines fought by the Thunderbird entry of Don Amado Araneta and son Jorge. This is were the Left-ins came and Mr. Marianing Yulo and Mr. Freddie Yulo had 1st hand on this. Mr. Paeng A. being a cousin of Mr. Jorge Araneta had access likewise. From the Yulos, Nonoy Jalandoni as well as Mr. Nato Lacson and the late Batchoy Alunan got there Lemons as well. The 84 cock is solely Mr. Paeng Aranetas'. And this lone cock is surely not Owens breeding. There is the Cecil Hatch that came from Duke that he got from Mr. Cecil Jones, and blended to the Lemons they were called the 'Armalites'. Another Hatch blood that Duke calls the Alfies also came in. I was informed that Mr. Otecs' Lemons came from a shipment from Duke in 1974. Whatabout the Hatch Grey lines as well as the Pretty Boy Greys that Duke sent here that became a sensation for Negros that was popularly known as 'Dirty Greys'. Whew! I will try to gather some more infos from my good friend Francis Afable as he had accounts of the other line that Mr. Hulsey calls the Penetentiary. YFIS.

[caloy72]

Owen is one of the breeders that supplies Duke Hulsey some fowls, but there are many versions or different lines that Duke shipped here in P.I. during a long span of time. I would put main emphasis on the ff: Smutty or Dukes Blueface shipped to Dr. Javelona in 1959. 1963 - 1966 Straightcomb Lemonhackled that was the mainlines fought by the Thunderbird entry of Don Amado Araneta and son Jorge. This is were the Left-ins came and Mr. Marianing Yulo and Mr. Freddie Yulo had 1st hand on this. Mr. Paeng A. being a cousin of Mr. Jorge Araneta had access likewise. From the Yulos, Nonoy Jalandoni as well as Mr. Nato Lacson and the late Batchoy Alunan got there Lemons as well. The 84 cock is solely Mr. Paeng Aranetas'. And this lone cock is surely not Owens breeding. There is the Cecil Hatch that came from Duke that he got from Mr. Cecil Jones, and blended to the Lemons they were called the 'Armalites'. Another Hatch blood that Duke calls the Alfies also came in. I was informed that Mr. Otecs' Lemons came from a shipment from Duke in 1974. Whatabout the Hatch Grey lines as well as the Pretty Boy Greys that Duke sent here that became a sensation for Negros that was popularly known as 'Dirty Greys'. Whew! I will try to gather some more infos from my good friend Francis Afable as he had accounts of the other line that Mr. Hulsey calls the Penetentiary. YFIS.

whooohhh....cant wait to read the next episode:) keep it up bro,. windjammer..have a good day.:)

[aurora gold]

Owen is one of the breeders that supplies Duke Hulsey some fowls, but there are many versions or different lines that Duke shipped here in P.I. during a long span of time. I would put main emphasis on the ff: Smutty or Dukes Blueface shipped to Dr. Javelona in 1959. 1963 - 1966 Straightcomb Lemonhackled that was the mainlines fought by the Thunderbird entry of Don Amado Araneta and son Jorge. This is were the Left-ins came and Mr. Marianing Yulo and Mr. Freddie Yulo had 1st hand on this. Mr. Paeng A. being a cousin of Mr. Jorge Araneta had access likewise. From the Yulos, Nonoy Jalandoni as well as Mr. Nato Lacson and the late Batchoy Alunan got there Lemons as well. The 84 cock is solely Mr. Paeng Aranetas'. And this lone cock is surely not Owens breeding. There is the Cecil Hatch that came from Duke that he got from Mr. Cecil Jones, and blended to the Lemons they were called the 'Armalites'. Another Hatch blood that Duke calls the Alfies also came in. I was informed that Mr. Otecs' Lemons came from a shipment from Duke in 1974. Whatabout the Hatch Grey lines as well as the Pretty Boy Greys that Duke sent here that became a sensation for Negros that was popularly known as 'Dirty Greys'. Whew! I will try to gather some more infos from my good friend Francis Afable as he had accounts of the other line that Mr. Hulsey calls the Penetentiary. YFIS.
duke also got an awesome hatch direct from harold brown


the yellowlegged mclean from harold brown was also a key to the making of the famous sweater.;):)

[the_archangel]

windjammer2,

astig! parang episode lang sa hataw pinoy ah!! :D hehe keep it up bro, really enjoying your posts. kung pwede lang isusulat ko lahat yan at gagawa ako ng compilation ng mga maiiging tandaan! hehe

[windjammer2]

Thank you archangel. Aurora G., sent you a pm. Thanks.

[msb_marvin]

the only DH in my backyard, but not yet tested in the pit. maybe this coming month.

http://saraka1423.multiply.com/photos/album/44/Stags_Bullstags_Cocks#21

[madjack_asils]

In the December 1988 issue of The Gamecock magazine, J. H. "Duke" Hulsey advertised five breeds namely Hatch, Brownred, Claret, Marsh and Greys. Does anybody know who got Brownreds, Clarets and Marsh Butchers from him?
Also, Lemons are said to be Butcher, Hatch & Claret in breeding. How come no family throws any white-legged offsprings? Where in fact Butchers and Clarets are mostly white-legged strains.

[windjammer2]

Some WL throwbacks came out of Francis Afable's breeding of the 84 and they were awesome.

[lkystrk]

M. Massa from La. didnt pass away unless it was last week. He is best known for his Kelso and asils. He likes them graded 1/2 and 1/2.

[madjack_asils]

Some WL throwbacks came out of Francis Afable's breeding of the 84 and they were awesome.

What was the year this happened? Doc TJT told me that he also has a family of Lemons that throws white legs. More infos on this would be highly appreciated. Thanks windjammer2.

[dantes_pick61]

Where can I find the pure old duke hulsey in the world?


pure DH.............lemon.............

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd58/dante_pick61/DSC00761.jpg?1277890488

[windjammer2]

What was the year this happened? Doc TJT told me that he also has a family of Lemons that throws white legs. More infos on this would be highly appreciated. Thanks windjammer2.
Early 2000 , Francis Afable's Lemons threw some fantastic WL Lemons.

[the_archangel]

madjack_asils : i think it was because the lemon line being perpetuaed by doc teddy is a bit heavy or bred towards the butcher side of the lemons. The straight lemon84 hen doc teddy gifted me was white legged peacomb if im not mistaken. its heavy on the armalite line with a dash of the juan tamad.. will be crossing it to the paeng araneta lemon84 that ramil tan got, Yellow Legged, Straight comb. hoping to produce straight bred lemons that are of the same ancestor, but of different families. fingers crossed for hybrid vigor. sounds good on paper, but always with a grain of salt. i have yet to take a picture of the hen, but i think ive got a picture of the bc somewhere here, but i cant seem to find it. darn.

[rc575]

Guys I took this picture a year ago from one of the well known breeder in Negros. This is a pure Hulsey stag (Left in), see the hackles as well as the comb it is a manifestation that the purity of this breed is still at par. Please don't ask me about the name of this famous breeder, they are not selling this breed anyway so we better leave it as it is. Watch out for this breed they are coming in big time derbies soon but of different plumage. :)
Please follow the link:
http://eblfarm.multiply.com/photos/album/8#photo=19

[madjack_asils]

madjack_asils : i think it was because the lemon line being perpetuaed by doc teddy is a bit heavy or bred towards the butcher side of the lemons. The straight lemon84 hen doc teddy gifted me was white legged peacomb if im not mistaken. its heavy on the armalite line with a dash of the juan tamad.. will be crossing it to the paeng araneta lemon84 that ramil tan got, Yellow Legged, Straight comb. hoping to produce straight bred lemons that are of the same ancestor, but of different families. fingers crossed for hybrid vigor. sounds good on paper, but always with a grain of salt. i have yet to take a picture of the hen, but i think ive got a picture of the bc somewhere here, but i cant seem to find it. darn.

Thanks for sharing the_archangel. You got PM.

[madjack_asils]

Early 2000 , Francis Afable's Lemons threw some fantastic WL Lemons.

Thanks again windjammer2. Got to visit Francis Afable soon. His farm in San Pablo City is just 3kms away from mine.

[bebs_pp2]

Early 2000 , Francis Afable's Lemons threw some fantastic WL Lemons.

Hey guys do know about this Florida hatch from Duke Hulsey, I have a hen that throws WL and they are awesome..

[liro]

we have 3 families of duke hulsey lemons, in my farm, the nato lacson lemons which originally came from freddie yulo left-ins, the batchoy alunan left ins, the jr. cuaycong left ins. Each of these lemon families have a distinctive variation and characteristics in them. The nato lacson lemons are medium high station , long wings , heavy plumage lemon hackle light red straight comb,yellow legs , very smart and quick on the ground, fight s more like a hatch , quick on the draw. The batchoys lemons are medium station, long wings medium red, heavy plumage with slight lemon hackle , yellow legs straight comb and are occasionally mean, but breaks well, cuts well, also has regular speed, but very game and "KUNat". The Jr. cuaycong lemons are what we call our Right ins, to differentiate them , they re medium station, medium red slight lemon hackle , regular wings ,yellow legs, straight comb. This line is the most simple of the three, in fighting style, it picks its shot and throws his feet only when needed and has no fuss in eliminating its opponent. These are the duke hulseys that we have, and can only speak about these three families cause we have been maintaining these lines for 4 decades, anything else i cannot comment http://sabong.net.ph/forum/images/icons/icon7.gif

[Salto]

pa subscribe lang po........ganda kasi ng topic dito

[buddy]

Hey guys do know about this Florida hatch from Duke Hulsey, I have a hen that throws WL and they are awesome..


You may ask Walter Villanueva of Lemon Infinitum fame, he used to fight a lot of this so called Florida Hatch strain. The Florida's are breed heavily on green legged side and never seen WL legged before.


Its originally came from our place in Negros Occidental and breed by the late Eng'r Andresito Gellecanao. When he retired(old aged) he pass most of his material back to our place to his nephews.




Click here: " Mongoose GameFarm (http://mongoosegamefarm.googlespages.com/history.html) "

[lordwally]

Guys I took this picture a year ago from one of the well known breeder in Negros. This is a pure Hulsey stag (Left in), see the hackles as well as the comb it is a manifestation that the purity of this breed is still at par. Please don't ask me about the name of this famous breeder, they are not selling this breed anyway so we better leave it as it is. Watch out for this breed they are coming in big time derbies soon but of different plumage. :)
Please follow the link:
http://eblfarm.multiply.com/photos/album/8#photo=19


sir rc575 do you entry in Matina 5cock for san pedro fiesta.any updates?thanks

[buddy]

Just sharing Mongoose Migakie Duke Hulsey lemon lemonan breed. Straightcomb yellow legged.


His bullstag picture:

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k312/hazelsulatan/nokis/03262010771.jpg


During October 2009 GFBAN 8 Stag Derby:

http://www.youtube.com/v/-mvoK3vx6uU&hl=en_US&fs=1&


Here's him again during April 2010 NGBA 6 Bullstag Derby:

http://www.youtube.com/v/zfyCzEmjMrs&hl=en_US&fs=1&











Click here: " Mongoose GameFarm (http://mongoosegamefarm.googlespages.com/history.html) "

[rc575]

Hi lordwally!
I have no plan to join and another thing most of my chicken are now molting. I hope everything will be bright for next year derbies like Araw ng Davao and Araw ng Panabo, hope to get a vacation in time for these derbies. All the best.:)

[3rdGen]

Five times winner.... proven in the brood pen too

http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt123/calantas/Hulsey/DSC_2661.jpg
http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt123/calantas/Hulsey/DSC_2664.jpg

[windjammer2]

Pure Left-in Lemon bullstag.
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87/stormcat33/Image034.jpg

[tebs69]

[QUOTE=randcofmaui]Where can I find the pure old duke hulsey in the world?[/QUOyou



go back to history from whom duke hulsey got all his cock that he conditioned,, search all those breeders if they are still alive ..


I got the old duke hulsey regular grey , but don't know how much percentage of duke hulsey grey blood they carry,, I doubt theirs Ruble in it ...

[rialog]

Some WL throwbacks came out of Francis Afable's breeding of the 84 and they were awesome.


buhayin natin ang tread na ito...