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TOTI
February 14th, 2005, 06:24 PM
Just this month, a famous group of 4 cockers that have been fighting for more than 2 seasons, with more than their fair share of derby success here in Negros have split up and gone their separate ways. Strained relations, charges of "gulang" and outright dishonesty are the sad remnants of this erstwhile formidable combine. As proof of their eminence, I seldom saw them dehado in guanzon, pontevedra or even in aquino, matina or in cebu. Is it really hard to keep your barkada in sabong for long? Is it the money part of our sport?

peatree
February 14th, 2005, 07:28 PM
Only sabong n P.I. will last.

sabong partnership can last for a while and in rare cases last a lifetime.

GoldenDragon
February 16th, 2005, 10:24 AM
It's a case of fame glory and money.

peatree
February 18th, 2005, 06:42 PM
Partnership = trusting one another to be true and fair to one another.

To whom would you give your trust?

... You can give your trust only to somebody whom you know genuinely really cares and loves you !:)

....

... thru documents or contracts...I doubt partnership cud last:D

Kidd Sentencia
February 19th, 2005, 03:07 AM
JEG Rattlers, built in trust, integrity, and honesty, will last for generations...my guarantee!

Kidd

steben_cgal
February 19th, 2005, 07:12 AM
esting teopaco and peping cojuangco time tested partnership!!! whats their formula ???? ;)

peatree
February 20th, 2005, 10:55 AM
One formula maybe is that: Money is no object:)

francis conde
February 20th, 2005, 06:43 PM
Peping C. and Esting T. are brothers-in-law. So they share a lot more things than simply sabong. Mix money, gambling and personalities and you'll always have stress points. Maybe more so when the losses start coming and the eventual finger pointing of these losses start.

TAGAVILLASIS
February 20th, 2005, 06:57 PM
built in trust, integrity and honesty....you think so, SIR KIDD!!! i don't think so.....nowadays??????just only my opinion!!!

Kidd Sentencia
February 21st, 2005, 02:35 PM
Are you talking about JEG Rattlers, TagaVillasis? You don't think so? Do you know us?

Kidd

TAGAVILLASIS
February 22nd, 2005, 06:30 AM
I'M SORRY, I'M TALKING ABOUT OTHER "PEOPLE". NOT THE JEG RATTLERS. IPAGPAUMANHIN PO.

joey bravo
February 22nd, 2005, 12:08 PM
Sir Toti,

I guess there are just so many factors that could break the partnership.

Many people thought that breeding gamefowls would be a profitable venture. But believe me, raising livestock is a risky business.

When it comes to livestock, anything goes. what I mean is that its very easy to incurr losses of stock thru sickness and theft. Likewise, there's is no way the partners can audit the production except by putting thier own people to monitor the harvesting and rearing of the birds. And that would entail some additonal expense on his part. If the investment is big and the ROI is good then maybe one will consider this option.

Finding uncorruptible and loyal people to work for you is also a factor. If your farmhands becomes hungry or their family is in emergency need of money for hospitalization, education of their children and food for thier big family, they see your livestock as money and source of their extra income.

Also when the partnership start losing in derbies, and the pther partners has no means to contribute anymore.

Or the partners suddenly has a change of heart and doesn't want to continue sabong as a hobby or would like to have a break in the sport then that would cause dissolution.

My two cents worth.



:hippie:

Kidd Sentencia
February 22nd, 2005, 02:45 PM
If the world will end soon or later, yes, there will be nothing that will last in this world. But, we are still around, and still going. Also, the "difference" between the poor and the rich is still prevalent...then and now, and I am sure it will still be the case in the future.

Man itself and all its attributes have lasted in this world...again, so far...hehehe.

Kidd

malalim
February 22nd, 2005, 04:56 PM
Just like in any business....

The bigger the business partnership and its equities the bigger the risk/s...

Bin Lagim
February 24th, 2005, 06:13 PM
no matter what....., transparency, trust and confidence ......:cool:

fte777
March 8th, 2005, 11:04 PM
Toti,

Siguro kahit saang bagay kung hindi pwede pagkatiwalaan ang magiging partner mo ay walang magandang pupuntahan lalo na sa pagmamanok. Hindi na kailangan ng formula yan. Alam mo kung sino ang taong may ugali na makakasundo, yun ang gawin mong partner

FORTBONIFACIO
March 9th, 2005, 06:59 AM
depende sa tao at sitwasyon.........:hat:

guapito
March 9th, 2005, 08:35 AM
TAMA ANG SAGOT MO!!!:)

PERO, PRE...HINDI MANGYAYARI SA ATIN IYON. KASI, IKAW ANG MAGBIBITAW NANG MANOK NATIN. KAYA, KAILANGAN KA SA SABUNGAN. :lol: :lol: HINDI AKO!. hahhaaha!


BULAKLAK NANG PALAWAN
( backyard farm ) :rbounce:

Anobaito
March 9th, 2005, 12:32 PM
Sabong partnerships... is akin to...

"Life is part luck, part talent, but mostly work & planning. No one's life is a string of successes -one after the other. Thus, keep on making a 'leap of faith -Risking." by D.Viscott.

LOL.

Your barkada jumping off the gun, hopefully good you keep, that's inevitable in as for life.:) Sabong, that is.

:hippie:

Simurgh
March 9th, 2005, 09:53 PM
Partnership to last...take a look!

If it can happen, it will happen!



Lasting partnership is something extraordinary

So....each one need to believe that something extraordinary is possible!:D


in short ,it is rare

But being rare doesnt mean it does not exist.

Kidd Sentencia
March 9th, 2005, 10:23 PM
I agree DPV...

Kidd

rhandy
March 10th, 2005, 03:01 AM
I have no doubt that team Jegg Rattlers of Jimbo & Kidd will be one of the Sabong partnership that will last for generations.

Bty Hunter
March 10th, 2005, 05:19 AM
It may last as long as two individuals share the same aspiration on the sport and like what peatree said, money is not an object...

Money not being an object in sabong, now thats tough!:hippie:

Kidd Sentencia
March 10th, 2005, 05:42 AM
Thanks Rhandy!

We are banking on our would-be apos (grandkidds) to inherit our friendship...hehehe.

And if anyone is involved in a failed sabong partnership/s...just simply look at the mirror and ask yourself, why it failed :lol:

http://ufac.pitfowl.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10004/normal_da%20pakners.jpg

Kidd

Simurgh
March 10th, 2005, 07:42 PM
Welcome DPK(B):)

Now , everyone posting in this thread is a suspect!

malalim
March 11th, 2005, 11:24 AM
If the partnership fights in 2-3 derbies a year, with an equity of about 30-50 heads, the probability that this will last is high as the risks and the financial exposures are lower.

If the partnership fights in about 50 derbies a year with an equity of about 300+ heads the probability that it will soon hit a dead end is higher because of the obvious risks.

And this is devoid of personality issues just obvious financial and business sense.

As one famous boxer puts it: "the bigger they are the harder they fall"

TOTI
March 15th, 2005, 07:24 AM
Nice Take on the topic. I was referring more to ACTIVE fighters, over the course of a full season of derbies, at the least. There will truly be less conflict for the backyard or weekend cockers who seldom fight. For I believe the stress points have to do with money and finger-pointing when the losses inevitably come.

I am not familiar with jec rattle. But the Combine I refer to is in Negros. The culprit issues for their demise ranged from selection of fowl to be entered, disagreements whether to insure potential prizes or not ,and of course, medication and conditioning to be used in their pool of aces.. .

Simurgh
May 25th, 2010, 09:33 AM
How about our partnership can it last???