Sweaters, Lemons, Zamboanga White, Zamboanga Black ?

[talisayon/balaw]

mundo...

i heard a barber story of black traveller..,its a gypsy chicken from england...the owner is the handler of Claret...a gypsy

Claret is an english royal blood..and he fire out the handler...the handler vows revenge thats why he breeds black traveller coz claret cocks were white...

to make the story short..they're chicken met in a derby..of course the black won and made champion...now claret offer the owner to be in his group...the owner turned him down..and said..."I was once your handler but you fire me out...now...i have my own breeding and my own buyers...i dont need your offer"

now, do we need american chickens? :lol:

just my lil lines

[kingdotix]

i equally like the sweater and the lemon, can't choose between them. but lately i just found out that the lemon-sweater cross is a lot better than any of the two.

haven't seen any zambo white or zambo black fought yet. i've seen lots of whites and blacks lost badly in the pits. i guess they were not zambos.

but for this poll's sake, i choose brains over speed. i go for the LEMON.

[River Bty]

Lemons, they never go out of style... parang blue denim!:lol:

[Brokewing]

I have only seen the sweaters and none the the other strains mentioned. Therefore, my vote is not objective. Nonetheless, I think the sweaters from Gene Batia and Bruce Barnett are the best I have seen that can fight with the best here in the USA.

A friend of mine told be about the Lemons that Duke Hulsey created they were a great winning line, which became known as the 84's in PI. According to my good friend, he asked Duke what they were, Duke replied that the Lemons were a 4 way cross, 1/4 Bumblefoot Grey, 1/4 McLean Hatch, 1/4 Butcher & 1/4 Kelso.

My friend also told me that Duke developed line of greys that were famous in the PI. They were known as the "Pretty Boys"
1/2 Blue Face and 1//2 Bumblefoot Grey.

[linoj]

Brokewing,

Maybe you have the point but the new version of Lemons are no longer the same as what Duke Hulsey brought in PI. If you notice the entries in WSC's with lemons, some dark, light, RH, White, Green and Yellow Legged..and even the material being used to produce these Fetheared Gladiators are not 100 percent pure from the original.

[Brokewing]

Linoj,

No way for me to know what the Lemons look like that WSC show since I live in the U.S. From you comments they do not resemble the original strain of Lemon 84s that Duke Hulsey brought to PI. Also, from you comments the WSC Lemons are not very uniform in color and phenotype. Do they all fight the same? I guess what really matters is putting the "W" on the board.

[linoj]

BrokeWing,

There is a way that you can see of how the Lemon Fight..Double click the link below for to buy a DVD format of WSC cup ..not only the lemons but Sweaters as well and many more..

http://www.sabong.net.ph/forum/showt...threadid=24378

[rbsugbo]

Lemon, with a dash of sweater. The sweater will
add bottom and beauty.

[ramiltan]

lemon pa din para saken ang maganda. kaya lng medium station lng. magandang base bloodline

[linoj]

Lemon + Boston Roundhead high station = Medium/High with all around fighting style.

[linoj]

To all the Lemon Fanciers,


Congratulations, it's really the lemon that most of every cockers want..Go..go..go

[linoj]

Guys,


Who's having a great records of Lemons as of the moment?

[rbsugbo]

Watch for the next issue of Pit Games. It will have an edition
of the Legends of the Pit featuring the lemons.

From it you may see why lemons are very popular in the Philippines.
Also you may get to know the breeders behind the Philippine lemons.

[linoj]

Bai Rbsugbo,

Thank you for your input, I will buy Pit Magazine then, it should be September Issue ?

Thnks & Rgds,

[linoj]

Genealogy of American Fowls: Maybe this will resolve of some argument about american fowl's origin !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CYMRU]

Great job, linoj!

[linoj]

CYMRU,

Just sharing the tips as what I've gathered in the NET 2 years ago..I'm looking that chart inside my database..at last we're able to retrieved and recover some of this files to share it with you guys.

[darwin]

thanks for the chart

[linoj]

Darwin,

U'r welcome ..I'm looking forward to attached some files related with that chart..watch out...

[kogmohon]

back to the lemon...i think it is the best ever that came out in
phil. sabong...the zw is gone...i don't know about the zb and
who cares...and the sweaters are showing signs of decline...
but the lemons is still up there...but one thing i noticed though...
there is a growing popularity of the black fowls...

[buhawi]

to beat a good sweater.......you need another bloodline......that is much faster than the sweaters.........and those are blackfowl

blacks that are fast in the score line.........that can go up faster in the air.......when you see the black crosses of tisay,jet and toto combine in candelaria 2005........that`s it.

[chrisjr]

BRUCE BARNETT SWEATERS for me

[Tweks]

I'll go for the lemon, green legged lemon of course..

[beakheel]

everybody has this line from the tip to the bottom of the archipelago... now its my favorite

[BULLET2]

100% LEMON'S, THEY'RE FAST AND FURIOUS, THE YELLOW AND GREEN LEG LEMON'S, ARE ORIGINAL IN THE PHILIPPINES, BUT ITS A PRODUCT OF MULTIPLE CROSSES. BUT IT'S STILL GOOD.:rbounce:


BULLET2
Redskins_kelso@yahoo.com

[linoj]

Lemons are still leading ...looks like the Sweaters are no longer the first choice..keep on coming..

[juan sabungero]

i choose lemon84 as a base bloodline to start with

[Edwinski]

:smoke:

[Budoy2]

Lemon of course... My Dad had them back in the 80's and up to this day (my Dad had passed away), I still have them. The line needs to be updated... pero pumapatay pa rin...:rbounce:

[linoj]

Sweater is still behind with Lemon.