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    Worming fowl /Molting season

    Well its Moulting season and we still have to worm our fowl...
    So any Ideas/info on how U worm your fowl during molt will help. thanks

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    nosi balasi
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    i will not do that if i we're you. they are in their lowest possible resistence to desease. you will aggrevate their condition by deworming them. do it after the molting priod.

    its like delousing them during molting period my friend.

    just a friendly advice from my best of knowledge. if my knowledge is not enough pardon my ignorance my friend.

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    I AGREE WITH YOU, SIR!

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    well if they have worms, you have to treat for it, so they will get through the moult alot easier and will come out of it looking like champs. Its your call.

    Just make sure you treat for it at correct dosages and follow up with probiotics.

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    Well I started this thread to see if I could get any new ideas on how to worm fowl during molting season from members of this board,you see I run a yard/health program and its a must to worm fowl ever month,maybe I over worm but my fowl a healthy and worm free,so any ideas on the subject will help....thanks YFIS Guamgazu

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    guamgazu

    what type of deworming are you using. is it really necessary
    to do it continuously every months the whole year round.

    have you identified the type worms you intend to eradicate
    in your fowls.

    after implementing your deworming program for several
    months have you tested them for any presence of worm.

    if yes have you considered identifying the possible source
    of these worms and the effectiveness of the deworming
    medications you are using including the dosage. ask your
    poultry supply store for other type of deworming

    by the way vets or biologist can identify the type of worms
    in chicken droppings thu microscope

    my recommendation to you is to deworm them before and
    after the molting period. if your deworming program is
    effective you don't have to worry about the few months
    they are in molting. they are safe. worry about how to care
    for them to have healthy feathers.

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    Liquid wormer. I use wazine. Put in in their water for 7 days stright. I de- worm year round. But that's just me.

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    Thanks CH....the reason I wormer so much is because I live in a tropical Island which is hot and very humid...perfect breeding ground for internal /external bugs not to mention diseases...so its a constant battle ...
    .....I also use wazine,and I switch the type of wormers every month so worming will be effective.....

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    I only use wazine during the molting season, because I don't want to have to handle them during this time. After they are through molting, I also switch from pills, capsules to enzume. I agree with you on mixing the type of wormal being used. Have you ever used IVOMEC? I use it twice a year, and I really like it.

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    IVOMEC is great stuff. The best wormer in the market in my opinion. Gets rid of the critters too.

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    Worming during the Molt

    I've used Red Devil Lye, as you do not have to handle the fowl during the molt. Simply soak scratch or oats in this solution and feed it to them. I normally feed about 1/3 of a cup. Works for me!!! :hippie:

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    nice thread and good sharing of one's approach in deworming.

    just i'm not lucky i guess to have the opportunity the need to
    deworm during molting. really never done deworming during molt.

    i deworm my chicks on the third months of their life and give two
    follow-up deworming at 14 days interval. then after i deworm
    them every quarter.

    i ask a vet to analyse dropping of suspected chickens not
    responding to deworming program for right type of dewormer.
    (sign no appetite, not gaining weight, pale and watery worm like
    droppings)

    make it a point to deworm my chickens every mid of june before
    molting.

    first step in conditioning is deworming again and delouse.

    yup ! different approaches as long it's serving you right, you're
    not wrong in doing it!

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    what are worms...they are a type of an internal parasite. what do internal parasites do... they feed on the nutrients passing through the intestines of the roosters... so what happens now, the nutrients that should be absorbed by the rooster are "shared" by these internal parasites... what happens when you have a rooster that is infested by internal parasites... he becomes weak, lethargic, thin and pale...

    what does the rooster need in order to minimize the stress of the moulting season... proper nutrition... how can he have nice shiny and strong feathers... proper nutrition....

    these are just some of the reasons why i continously maintain a deworming program even through the moulting season... through the years i have not seen any adverse effects of deworming the rooster throught the moulting season... you can't have a healthy rooster all year round if he is not rid of both of internal and external parasites.

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    additional info

    worthwhile to mention is to often evaluate the deworming
    program for effectiveness by seeking a laboratory analysis
    on chicken dropping or seek a vet service.

    prolong use of worm remedies and inneffective deworming
    program can develop worm resistance which is more
    dangerous to chickens and to the pocket of the owner.

    check this out http://www.nda.agric.za/docs/Internal/default.htm

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    resistance to dewormers can be easily addressed by using different kinds of dewormers in your deworming program... one should alternately use various dewormers so that "dewormer resistance" will not be a problem...

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    i think the link suggest at least to consult you nearest veterinarian or animal health technician and have a faecal egg count reduction test done to have a more reliable deworming program than doing a shotgun approach especially by persons not keen of deworming remedies. imho

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    good post for worm.........

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    nice post. keep on coming guyz.:rbounce:

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    Only thing I have to add is that the Fembendazole (and others in the same family) have been shown to cause problems with new feathers, Smaller and or Deformed. ~Ace~

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    The way I worm during the molt is by skipping a day feed and the next day 2-3 hours before their normal feeding time I cut up some bread into 1/2 inch by 1/2 inch squares and squirt 2cc's of valbizine with an oral syringe onto the bread making sure the bread absorbs the full 2cc's. After three hours I feed bread and milk to flush thewormer out their system. The said procedure works effectively on a bird that is empty. This allows you not to touch the bird.

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    ncyabut

    ...i agree 100%

    may i ask the different kinds of wormers you use for rotation?

    your insights are very good...please keep it coming...

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    I like deworming my Chickens on a monthly basis. I alternately used Valbasen broad spectrum, Wazine, and the Red Devil Lye.

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    Here are the wormers that I use..
    Valbasen
    piperzine
    Hammer

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    i include tape terminator in my deworming program and it works !

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    RED DEVIL LYE

    WHICH worms are eliminated by using Red Devil Lye? I started off with safeguard 10% drench for cattle...and would probably use Ivomec next round....I wonder how Red Devil Lye works and how to apply it for both quail size and cocks...thanks

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    there are many different dewormers available in the market here in the philippines like "PAKYAW", "CT WILLIAMS", "RINTAL", "PURGAMAX"... etc... what i do is i use a different dewormer every month... so far i have had very good results... it would be good if you have 6 different dewormers on your list so you'll have different dewormers every month... i deworm every month and 12 days before the fight.

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    silver2dmoon
    i have not tried using red devil lye but it should state
    on its label which type of worms are eliminated

    if your concern is to confirm whether the deworming
    drugs you are using are really effective in combating
    the worms present in your fowls i would suggest to
    have fecal analysis of your fowls at least once a year
    to see if the deworming program is working.

    rotating and using different deworming drugs on
    monthly basis is not foolproof that they are working
    it might be a waste of money or worst doing more
    harm to your chickens imho hope this could help

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    mga tol,

    i try to use wormal anong dosage ang dapat ibigay nito ....

    maraming salamat po :rbounce: :rbounce:

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    1 caplet each cock

    1/2 caplet if below 6 mos

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    maraming salamat bai cougar,

    i used it to my breeding materials....after I deworm , ilang araw kaya sla dapat isalang....
    :smoke:

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