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    roundhead claret/claret roundhead

    Just need some opinion on these one. I crossed a pure roundhead cock(ray alexander) to a pure claret hen( ray alexander too). If i did it the other way around(claret cock to a roundhead hen), would there be any difference in the fighting style of the offsprings? Has anybody crossed this 2 breeds before? thnk!!

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    Yes there would

    different qualities are passed on from cocks & hens. "they" say speed over power. Hope this helps.
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    no difference either way they will still throw excellent birds..good combination...:rbounce:

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    claret broodcock/roundhead hens - stags will show the roundhead style of fighting
    roundhead broodcock/claret hens -stags will show claret style
    (i would prefer a roundhead cock over a roundhead/claret hen, i would want some claret blood in my hen, but not pure for LK)

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    I heard power over speed, but I guess it's what you prefer. I was thinking about getting that cross from Ray Alexander also. How are they?

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    power over speed for LK, then i like speed over the pullets, 3/4 roundhead/1/4 claret, but with the claret blood in your hen you might see more of the claret fighting style than you would with a claret cock over a roundhead hen even though your claret blood is 1/4.

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    It all depends which trait you fancy. I have heared that stags inherit traits from the hen while pullets from the rooster, so pick your choice.

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    i agree with james it's all most the same breed however the triats of the stags are pulled from the hen so this in mind you would want the cigar claret over roundhead.... i raise roundhead over cigar claret myself then i take the offspring put over roundhead hen to get 3/4 roundhead cocks show rh and 1/4 claret hen show cigar claret.....


    cigar

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    I like Roundhead over Claret ...



    "win or loss is how you played the game"

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    Or he uses a 1/2 gilmore, 1/2 sweater broodhen to mate it with another multiple winning sweater broodcock of 5,000 line, to make the blood composition at 3/4 sweater, 1/4 gilmore hatch.

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    Gilmore Cock to a BB Sweater hen

    http://photobucket.com/albums/f159/0...rue&interval=3

    The pictures above are my Gilmore/Sweater (Bruce Barnett) cross. We used a Gilmore Cock to a BB Sweater hen and they produced 8 offspring 2 green legged - one pullet and one stag, the rest came out all yellow legged stags...

    I hope this helps

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    this is turned into a pretty good post, robocop as far as breeding clarets, cigar will help you most of all, he & his family of been breeding them for yrs. i think ray alex has an griffin claret though.

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    clarets

    what's the difference between the cigar clarets and the griffin clarets? i heard griffin clarets came from madigin also. correct me if i'm wrong. what about the cigar clarets? where did they originate?

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    Ugly,

    If some of his sweaters have sulked at the wsc, then most likely he bred more to the speed side of the yellow legged at 3/4.

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    ROBOCOP

    You can go either way, roundhead cock with claret hen or vice versa. You still get long-knife deluxe fowl. That's what I did, following the advice of Mr. Alexander. That cross produces hard hitting, deep cutting, accurate fighters that can win from behind.

    If you love Sweaters, then try his "lemon-hackle" Clarets! They're not only gorgeous, but also possess tons of ability. Their beauty makes you want to get out of bed early every morning just to get a glimpse of them.

    I've also produced angat sarado fighters from this cross. You can go either 1/2-1/2 or 3/4-1/4, even 7/8-1/8. I've been very pleased, and so will you.

    Good luck on your breeding program.

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    claret crossed to a roundhead is really good so is with claret to hatch. i dunno why clarets crossed to sweaters are mostly flops. just my one cent.

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    Question Re: roundhead claret/claret roundhead

    equals Kelso ?

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    Re: roundhead claret/claret roundhead

    Thanks for sharing your ideas guys.
    ive seen some Claret that are being fought
    in WSD DVD they are very good.
    I obtain Griffin Claret. trio im going to try
    them with my Roundhead Broods.
    Most of the Combination i saw that nick well
    are roundhead clarets...

    Any luck with green leg hatches?

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    Talking Re: roundhead claret/claret roundhead

    When it comes to crossing straight comb and pea comb fowl, in my opinion I'd rather cross the straight comb rooster over pea comb hens. It just seams to work out better in my opinion.

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    Re: roundhead claret/claret roundhead



    My 3/4 Boston Roundhead 1/4 Claret so far doing well

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    Re: roundhead claret/claret roundhead

    IMG]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o316/boots877/BostonRH-ClaretStag.jpg[/IMG]

    Another 3/4 boston roundhead 1/4 claret won unscratched against a sweater last stag derby.
    Last edited by boots; December 25th, 2006 at 08:41 PM.

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    Re: roundhead claret/claret roundhead



    Another 3/4 boston roundhead 1/4 claret won unscratched against a sweater last stag derby.[/QUOTE]

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    Re: roundhead claret/claret roundhead

    boots,

    Very nice!!!!
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    Re: roundhead claret/claret roundhead

    Pre George hope you 're doin well regards to your dad.

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    7/8 ROUNDHEAD x CLARET

    In our pool of feathered gladiators, they just simply dominate.

    Roundhead-Claret bred by CARSON FARM of WT AVALON



    They are mutliple strikers and are high-fliers. "ANGAT SARADO" fighting style.

    They beat our Sweaters easily.

    Pea Comb ROUNDHEAD-CLARET bred by CARSON FARM of WT AVALON



    God bless

    -Tres Mentiras

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    Re: roundhead claret/claret roundhead

    Tres- good looking fowl you have.
    im looking forward on my roundhead claret blends
    next year..

    Thanks for sharing your ideas guys....

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    Roundhead Claret

    Thanks for the compliment wickedfrog.

    You cannot go wrong with this cross.

    It is not invincible, but it will sure give you higher winning percentage.

    All praises to the Roundhead Clarets.

    God bless.

    -Tres Mentiras

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    Re: roundhead claret/claret roundhead

    This is an excellent cross and my favorite. I like to breed roundhead cock over claret hens. This cross has done well for me. I have breed dee cox lacy over stone county claret and the offspring are very promissing. Sounds like your crosses will be great. Good luck -Cesar

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    Re: roundhead claret/claret roundhead

    Tres_ M,

    When you get those in the Farm, they are still biddies, now look at them, they are
    fully grown... I will mate the sister of those stags to the Kearney Whitehacle, so
    the physical make-up is 1/2 KWH 1/4 Roundhead 1/4 HH Moore Claret...
    ... Seasons Greetings and Goodluck...

    Yfis...

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