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    Smile One last thread and I'll leave well enough alone

    Speaking of asils, I have to show one of my Atkinson asil cocks, these fowl are real pretty to with a ton of power. Thanks
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    JOE

    How r u doing?

    That is a fine looking Asil.

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    wow! man you got nice awsome solid rampuri asils ! so
    are the other asils. great!

    can tell us more what type of knifes you fight these fowls?

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    more asils . . .

    here's one more link that may be of interest to you

    http://braveheart.asia-gamefowl.net/start.htm

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    Hi Jim,
    Thanks for the compliment, I'm doing very well, I have a yard full of beautiful stags, they are all very healthy this year. I've penned 50 and still have probably another fourty coming up. I have two of those Gowdy stags penned I got off of you. They are real nice, good bodies, healthy, alert. Thanks for the nice fowl. I ended up getting two stags and 4 pullets. I need to get a hen or another pullet, so I don't have to breed brother and sister. I'll worry about that later. I noticed that nice looking bird you got from Les. Lucking SOB:wink2: just playing. How have you been? Take care buddy -Joe
    juan,
    Thank you for the compliment also, I take great pride in my fowl. It shows. I've been real fortunate with the fowl I obtained. I've been through more than my fare share of asils to get my families I have now. There is alot of junk out there. I've seen most of it. So far these families have made me very happy. Most of the time you can tell the REAL fowl from the dungheels on the way they act on a daily basis. The birds will tell you alot about themselves, you just have to be willing to listen. The same goes with all other chickens. It takes some time to learn how though.
    Speaking of knives, well my rampri are fast enough for SK if graded down to 1/4. They would do OK if graded 1/2. It really depends on the other half. All of them would do good in the LK graded 1/2, probably Ok graded 1/4. I would put the longest, biggest knife I could find. They got one really good shot, they are all accurate and can cut. My fowl usually side step and blast the other cock as he comes down. Usually in the side or up the back. Now comes the thing I like the most, they sit back and wait for the other cock to melt before they hit again. I've had a few american fowl just jump right back in after they have killed the other bird and get themselves killed as well. That really sucks. I know that anyone that fights the LK has had this happen to them. The biggest thing with fighting asil grades is that you have to be VERY selective, keep the ones that fit your style of fighting and kill ALL of the rest. Keep the nicest ones that have maintaine total health year-round. When raising these fowl, compasion has to go out the window and stay there. This is all my opinion and my philosiphy. It doesn't apply to everyone. I feel that as a LK fight gets longer (more than 2 buckles) the probabilty of winning shifts to the faster american bird. This is why I like the gaff (gaff is used the most in the north eastern part of america) The good families can take the punishment and can dish it out as well. In the gaff, I feel that if the asil family is game the grade should do better, they usually are stronger and more accurate. THE ASILS MUST BE GAME. Like I said before, my opinion only, take it for what its worth. I love reading and talking about asils, they are by far my favorite of all fowl. Take care -Joe

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    nice post bluface3

    yup! i agree with you if you used a graded asil warriors
    in lk fights after the first few buckles the probability of
    winning shifts to the faster fowls.

    in lk the first three buckles are the most crucial time
    of the fight. this is where the advantage of graded asil
    should come into play being a perfect accurate cutter.

    i remember one fight that i used a bull stag crossed from
    local dom (bulik) broodcock with our 3/4 graded rampuri
    asil. in the first few buckles he was outspeed by a rusher
    western fowl which i believe to be brownred. needless to
    say he is about to succumb to death but this eagerly
    aggressive opponent just keep on jumping back to him
    then whamp . . . our asil gave his first and last puch that
    sent the opponent into instant shock and fell like a timber.
    our cock succumbed to death and failed to peck.

    the other guy was shaking his head and i was laughing
    btw the the other guy is part owner of the pit.

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    thai gamefowls

    another exciting site dedicated to thai gamefowls

    http://www.geocities.com/xyoojaviaries/index.html

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    my asil....breed...

    claret asil..
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    blueface...you got good looking asils...

    i am trying to grade asils this year. i will use boles/sonatal and
    sam gowdy for my reds and black rampuri asils from reed driskell
    for my blacks. i am not sure if this combination is good but i will
    welcome any suggestions...

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    Thanks for the compliment.

    First off you don't have to necesarily breed red asils to red fowl and black asils to black fowl. It sounds like you have pretty nice baseline asils to cross to. I've owned Reeds asils at one time, they fight pretty nice and I own some of Sam Gowdy fowl right now. They are not going anywhere. My best advice to you is see where your red and black american fowl fall short (cut, power, smarts, station, ect.) Compare your asils and see which breed or bloodline will help them the most. Think real hard about this. After you have made your decision, stop and think about it some more. Don't be suprised if you change your mind. Infuse your blood that way. Breed asil cock over american hen and amwerican cock over asil hen. Raise them and see what you like the best. I would only raise a few of each at first, then cul them very hard. KEEP ONLY THE BEST. Pick the ones that suit you (fighting ability, appearance) and go from there. Hope this helps. -Joe

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    loreto rico
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    ka juan,

    binigyan ako ng Malaysian Royal Asil daw na stag ...research kaagad ako dito, gallery at iba pa....pero hindi nakita kon mayroon ba talagang ganyan pangalan...bigay kaibigan na baguhan din sa pagmanok, kagaya ko...

    pula ang kulay...kamukha sa ibang pictures dito...asil looking talaga...kararating lang po sir galing cotabato...ano kaya maganda breed dito...salamat

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    hello guys,

    am sorry.....am using different language....am just excited...but anyway, i think sir juan.. understand...
    my apology....hoping for your indulgence....thanks.

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    loreto rico

    on page one of this thread you find some of links classifying
    different strain of asils, malayoids, bankivas shomos and
    other strain of orientals but i have not come across of malayan
    royal asil. maybe it is a family develop by certain breeder like
    the case of cobra asil.

    if you can post pictures maybe we can check its resemblance
    with the defined asil strains. the three basic strains are rampuri
    which are black, khan and sonatol which are from dark red to
    red. but also expect throw backs from these strains

    best find the fighting style of your asil and breed him to western
    fowls go with complimentary traits and shot one also for the
    oppositte trait and check which will give you the fighting style you
    prefer then fine tune to 1/4 grade.

    again experiment from the offspring using both stag and pullet
    from your first mating which is 1/2 1/2. mate them again to your
    western fowls.

    when i say western fowls you can also use locally breed but
    make sure they are staight blood not cross.

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    loreto rico
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    ka juan,

    thank you very much....you have gifted me with the right information...the name might be of the breeder from where my friend got the stag....this might be passing the back door kota kinabalu...

    good luck to you sir....more power

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    loreto rico

    hi ! i know you will enjoy breeding you newly acquired asil.
    i find it fascinating to breed them though. It's very
    challenging and you will find the results are very rewarding.

    you only have to be persistent and patient. the first few
    sparring you will see at the age of about six months will
    be the funniest fighting style they will exhibit in their whole
    life. but you'll be amazd how they develop and change their
    fighting style as they age to one year old.

    conditioning them and turning them to a fine warriors is the
    most rewarding part of it, believe me :lol:

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    more aseels !!!

    check this out ! :rbounce:

    http://agslebanon.tripod.com/aljazzar/photo1.htm

    http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Shrine/2425/pakistan/

    http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Park/7077/werner.htm

    http://www.feathersite.com/Poultry/G...BRKSaipan.html

    http://russiagame.tripod.com/russiaclub/kulang.htm

    http://russiagame.tripod.com/russiaclub/kulang2.htm

    http://www.thaicockfight.com/


    http://www.longtail-fowl.com/html/shamo_chu_%26_o.html

    http://www.longtail-fowl.com/html/sh...humbnails.html

    http://www.longtail-fowl.com/html/o_shamo.html

    http://www.longtail-fowl.com/html/shamo2.html


    http://shamo.piranho.com/fotos.html

    http://www.shamo-dolfo.com/


    http://home.pi.be/~fb899846/

    http://www.ping.be/~fb899846/Todo-Du...ilianShamo.htm

    http://www.ping.be/~fb899846/Germany.htm

    http://www.ping.be/~fb899846/Isleofr%E9union.htm

    http://www.ping.be/~fb899846/Shamosaroundtheworld.htm

    http://www.ping.be/~fb899846/Italy.htm

    http://www.ping.be/~fb899846/Brasil.htm

    http://www.ping.be/~fb899846/USA.htm

    http://www.ping.be/~fb899846/Vietnam.htm

    http://www.ping.be/~fb899846/Japan.htm

    http://www.ping.be/~fb899846/Belgium.htm

    http://www.ping.be/~fb899846/mijnTaiwans.htm

    http://www.ping.be/~fb899846/ShamoTurkije4.htm

    http://www.ping.be/~fb899846/Shamosaroundtheworld.htm

    http://www.ping.be/~fb899846/Thailand.htm

    http://www.geocities.com/koyobregon/LUISA.htm

    http://braveheart.asia-gamefowl.net/ownbird1.htm

    http://braveheart.asia-gamefowl.net/ownbird2.htm

    http://braveheart.asia-gamefowl.net/rare.htm

    http://www.ping.be/~fb899846/links.htm

    http://www.gene.affrc.go.jp/animal/c.../shamo-ib.html


    http://go.to/ayambangkok

    http://www.kampfhuehner.de

    http://www.thaicockfight.com/amateur.html

    http://www.geocities.com/RodeoDrive/2585/Orfowl

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    check this out . . . asils which can be use for grading warriors
    to long knife competition (copy and paste the link to your
    browser's url if clicking the link below doesn't work)

    http://www.concu.com/~vip/bao/Ua.wmv

    note: just seen this at ganoi.com

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    bluface3

    nice blacks are you selling some? rom_ph is looking for one.

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    Juan,
    Thanks for the compliment, if I have any to go, it won't be until next late next spring. I want to see what last years hatch gave to me. Most are still free range right now. Take care -Joe

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    a pure brazilian cock . . . will you take this for long knife infusion ??!!


    pic barrowed from ganoi.com

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    that type is not game...

    sometime ago, we had that types that were crossed to texas. though not critically wounded, most of them quitted during the battle.

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    Rampuri Asil

    Gentlemen,

    I need a pure black Rampuri asil hen for my next breeding. Can somebody please lead me to the right direction, preferably local breeder in Philippines.

    I need to cross them with my Black Phoenix lines http://www.sabong.net.ph/gallery/sho...t=1&thecat=500 , I have a good feeling that this would be the best mix to produce the ultimate black fighting machine. I would really appreciate any help.

    Regards!

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    i learned from asil breeders..........that their gameness..........is related to the length of their tails............
    the longer their tail..............the more game they are

    hackle feathers.........i like them lil bit thicked feathered medium length neck.........not with thinned feathered long neck

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    Video


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    Here is an asil clip from last nights bakbakan qualifier...a rampuri-spangle/wingate vs the silangan entry of Richard Bates

    http://s4.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1L...P27H4SQWFP5NIB

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    Thanks for You Two GUYS

    Thanks for sharing TONIO. I am going to hopefully show some of the offspring of the trio that we got from you soon. They are maturing well. We free ranged a LOT of them and only lost one pullet I think. They are TOUGH fowl man.

    Blueface!!!
    I really haven't been following this thread too much, but those two asils that we obtained from you are doing well in the PI. The Gold Hyderabad is a bit of a manfighter, but thats okay because he was purchased for breeding only. Right now the Gold Hyderabad is on loan to a fellow Bataan cocker for breeding with some of his imported lines. Hopefully we will have a good nick! Pleasure doing business with you sir!

    Regards,

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    another naked heel type asil. don't know really if you'll
    be successful in infusing them for long knife grades



    pic barrowed from ganoi.com o ma lai strain (hennie)

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    ka juan,

    totoo po bang merong mga asils na natutulog kapag

    nasusugatan sa laban o mahina sa sugat?


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    yup! there are! not only they tend to sleep but they also run
    select or buy one that is steel game

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