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    backyard vs. bacolod farms

    ano sa tingin nyo tayo may backyard farm kaya ba natin sa derby ang mga bacolod farms? o tsamba lang kung tayo'y manalo. Dahil konti lang ang pagpipilian natin mga ace cock? kahit parehong imported strains ang gamit?
    dahil talo tayo sa facilities at technology?

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    Siguro talo..., sa dami ng pagpipiliang panlaban..........sa ibang bagay... hindi na...

    opinion lang...

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    mapa backyard o bacolod farms na manok pareho lang ,walang magaling na manok sa tinatawag na BUENAS LINES

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    backyard vs. bacolod farms

    In my opinion if you accept defeat or doubt your own abilities or your fowls... sigurado talo ka!... y bakid kapa magsasabong kong ganito ang mentality mo ?


    One major advantage we have against big farm breeders
    is that we raise only a few fowls each year against the hundreds or thousands big farms raise... it's true that they have many to chose from while we only have a few... but...the biggest advantage we have when raising only a few fowls is we are able to concentrate more on those individuals... we the owners can give a hands on care to and the extra attention unlike the big farms where they raise hundreds/thousands of each year where they mostly depend on the farmhands they hire.

    Another advantage we have over them is on "feeds". Do you really think all the big farms use top of the line feed? No... I don't think so because I've been to a lot of big farms and asked the feeders what they give to their roosters... You might ask "how come the bigfarms roosters have full bodies"?... that's because they cull they fowls that doesn't have healthy appetites and those that doesn't have full bodies to begin with.

    Few advantages of big farms are ... they have the space and the facility... they can cull ruthlessly... and they have a lot to chose from.

    If we backyard/small time just use common sense with our fowls... have a good program in regards to raising our fowls from chick to pit (vaccination, ranging, hardening, etc...).. we shouldn't be far behind big farms but toe to toe...

    When I see a backyard breeder beat a big farm breeder... I commend him for a job well done, I don't think it's luck that propelled him to victory but common sense and hard work.

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    u got one there!

    nice comments t_c! i agree with that!

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    backyard vs bacolod farms.....

    pili ka lang ng magandang laban, kung di mo kayang banggain...ilag lang...............kumbaga kung gusto mong sumikat doon ka lang sa mga ka level mo........... maaari mong talunin ang mga farm bred pero hindi siguro sa majority ng laban........ pasintabi ika nga..........

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    nag-breed ka p!

    that's y we are breeding our own fowls! to beat everyones cock in the cockpit. hindi ung iilag ka kung may bigtime. ako wala akong pakialam kung kaninong manok yan. pag ganyan lng ang klaban mo ingat k lng sa sestinciador alam mo na? pero sa manok walang uspan don basta alam mo n naalagaan mo yan ng mabuti. no problem khit kanino mo ibannga. ang maganda p non syem prew pag nanalo ka sikat ka. kung matalo ka naman ok lng kc bigtime nabangga mo. hehehehe!

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    taga naga ...i agree your opinion about backyard breeder vs big farm breeder...in my experience its up to you on how you care you chicken and condition and selecting. and your breeding technic. i have friend from bacolod that fought their chicken in 6 cock derby in cebu and iloilo he have only 50 heads in thier yard..and they were select the best ...and condition well..mostly of their opponent has bigfarm and popular cocker in PI..seems he got 5 win and 1 lose in iloilo colisium and solo champ . in cebu..he told me that you should concentrate to you chicken and established each condition and their fighting improvement every now and then..and he has been take it off their all culls during 7 to 10 month old and he left all have a future .and let thim aged in there cord and continuous breeding...at the same procedure he did..all chicken in their yard are trusted for fight at any big timer opponent.but you can spent more time to kept your better chicken...and aged them...but he was been a handler of chinese business man won 8 cock international derby solo champion last midle 90s.. and now he move to cebu still have financer ..he still fighting in bohol leyte and cebu with her boss..last year when i was dawn there he was been solo champ in bohol 3 cock derby ..and he got 4 cock champ in leyte in 1st entry and the 2nd entry was insurance 3 win and 1 lose...but as of now i dont have a news about her..i guest i meet her when i will be there next year hopefully..doesnt matter you are a back yard breeder or big time breeder it is the same...:rbounce: :rbounce: :hat:

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    jason slay

    very well said brother.....:rbounce: :rbounce: :rbounce:

    ty epc

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    pre tma n nman kau don!

    ecp? san k sa laguna? yan ang attitude to be a contender in this field!

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    ok lahat nang opinon niyo mga kakmeyts...

    ito lang po ang opinion ko, karamihan sa atin na mga backyard breeder naglalaban din sa 3-4 cock derby, siguro yong iba abot nang 5 cocks.....pero di natin alam na yong ibang tinalo natin sa isang derby....di nga kilala sila bilang bigtime cockers na may farm sa bacolod o saan man pero siguro tayo na 80% sa kanila kumukuha nang panlaban galing sa bacolod o ilo-ilo....

    diba pareho din yon...?:lol: ......bacolod farm pa rin ang nalabanan

    just my few cents......:hippie:

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    ung manok oo

    pero ang iba n don ung alaga1 pero kung mas mgnda ang alaga/facilities ng klban mo mas mbgat syempre un. pero payo lng wag kau mttkot khit cno p yang poncio pilato n klaban nyo. basta klngan lng may sarili k mgtatari para hindi k ngdududa n dinya k sa tari. at pagdating sa rueda ingat k sa sestencia. buti kung c berong ang sestenciador. d b?

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    i agree...

    sa kanila...ang wala sa atin ay pusta...at financier...ang big farm breeders ay budgeted ang kanilang patuka..while sa backyard ay top of the line ang patuka mo,,kasi...kaya mo silang bigyan ng magandang vitamins...ang big farm ay cull ng culll...ang backyard ay make the best of the reject cock...

    pag mag kasakit ang big farm...naku...marami yan...sa backyard..madali mong i isolate....at bigyan ng lunas... kung masakit ang manok sa big farm...ay matagal ang recovery...kasi anddon pa yong sakit...nag libotlibot lang...at bumabalik...

    cguro yon lang...

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    at kung ganon

    kung derby for big boys aymalamang di k mplaban sa bigtime kc alam ng promoter na mahirap ikasa ung pusta. pero kung may minimum bet. larga bsta alam mo n kayang patayin ng manok mo ang klaban.

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    my
    opinion
    is that
    backyard chicken
    and farm
    chicken
    had equal
    chance to win
    in a long knife game
    ...
    what is different is the level
    level in terms of MONEY
    your backyard chicken can kill the
    chicken of those
    big time breeders
    like PAtrick Antonio
    and whoever they are
    its just
    d ntin sila makakalaban
    kasi wala
    tyong milyon n pamusta!
    takot lang ng mg yan lumaban
    sa gaya nating backyard breeder
    he he he
    kasi pag tinalo sila
    mapapahiya sila
    :lol:
    panalo ng sila e 1100 lang
    nye he he he:lol:
    joke joke

    BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS:
    equal chance to kill
    each other chicken..
    just like us backyard breeder
    they're chicken eat feeds too...

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    tama k jan pare bulik

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    salamat
    preng
    SAMAT
    hamunin kaya natin sila
    :lol: :lol:
    lalaban kaya?
    1,100.00 lang ang bet
    :lol: :lol:
    kita kits na lang tayo SM

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    kickcut44

    pre, comment ko lang . sa bacolod kahit backyard breeder tinatalo din ang mga bigtime breeder..Kaya kung feeling mong banggain sila..why not its your freedom and choice..May kasabihan nga bago ka daw maging magaling kailangan talunin mo ang mga magagaling..

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    :lol:

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    backyard vs. bigfarms

    tama yan! ... kung alam mo na magaling ang pag alaga mo sa manok mo, magandang feeds, bigay ng vitamins, ranging, vaccination, etc... at hindi nagkasakit ang mga alaga mo parang mga manok ni guapito ...100% :lol:

    hindi kana matatakot kung sinong big time ang lalabanin mo. sa tingin ko lang maraming small time ang matatakot sa bigtime kung malaki ang e pusta ng big time... e kayo kung dehadong dehado ang manok nyo sa pustahan... e anong pakiramdam nyo ?... sa akin excited ako kasi saud ko lang kung mag lugrohan na 10/7 ... 10/6.

    So the bottom line... tayoy mga small timer - backyard breeder kung alam lang ninyo ang kalidad ng mga manok nyo at magaling ang pag alaga mo from chick to pit at nag gamit ka ng common sense.... e huwag tayo matakot !

    NO FEAR !... sabi ng shorts ni manny pacquiao... pero siguradohin lang natin na hindi tayo palaging sumasagasa at gagamitin ung utak natik kasi ung NO FEAR attitude natin baka patungo sa NO FERA ! :lol:

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    un nga ang sinasabi ko.

    basat wag kau mtkot1 hindi kau ang lalaban ng patayan! hehehe! ako khit doblado p hindi ako aatras s laban. it happen to several times. sabi ko lng s sarili ko tingnan ntin. so pg labas ko ng rueda taas noo syempre! nagugulat sila sa manok ko. bsta tke the best cre of ur chicken!

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    kickcut44

    balik tayo doon sa katanungan mo. Ang main issue sa palagay ko una ay selection..mas marami kang manok, mas marami kang pamimilian.. Ikalawa ay pera.

    Sa unang issue, level na ang field dahil nakakaimporta rin naman tayong backyard ng materyales..pero komo limitado ang kaya nating iproduce..limitado ang ating pag-pipilian. Pero kung yung iilan pirasong manok natin ay talagang SUPER naman at ang iilang broodpen natin ika nga ay mga 'nic' o GOLDEN TRIOS na talagang winning lines ang mga anak... Bakit hindi tayo uubra sa mga BIgtimers kung manok at manok lang ang pag-uusapan...

    Sa ikalawang issue PERA...aahh kanya kanyang diskarte na yan.. matagal- tagal na rin ako sa site na ito , wala pa rin akong nakitang nag-post kung paano kikita ng perang pangtapat sa mga bigtimers. :lol:

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    jason slay,

    Dito lang ako sa tubigan malapit sa Biņan Colliseum

    Small time land talaga ako pero gusto ko lagi kalaban bigtimer
    masaya kasi pag malaking isda ang huli

    Pag natalo naman ako? eh....ok lang. At least bigtime ang tumalo. :blush:

    ty epc

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    Pera....

    yup, problema talaga sa pustahan pero madalas nakakasa din.

    Pero para sa akin...ang pinakamalaking problema nating mga smalltimer ay ang sa PAG,,SENTENCIA
    Madalas pabor sa mga bigtimes ang mga sentenciador:blush:

    opinion lamang
    epc

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    backyard vs. bacolod farm???

    hehehe, iisa lamang iyan!!! ang backyard ay puwedeng talunin ang bacolod farms... at ang bacolod farms ay puwedeng talunin ang backyard din.

    para sa amin ay hindi namin pinapansin ang kaninong manok...basta pareho ang timbang ay laban na kami sasali lamang kami sa stag at cock derby.

    pero, kailangan ay may kategorya din ang inyong abilidad para sumagupa sa mga bacolod farms.... kung wala ay mahirap matalo sila.

    eto ang kailangan nang backyard:

    maganda palahi at 100% healthy sila + magandang vitamins + mahusay na handler. ty!:rbounce:

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    bigtime dahil may pampusta na malaki (kaya tinawag na bigtime). kung manok manok lang pare pareho lang yan, siyempre laban ang mga backyard dyan. pagalingan na lamang yan kung anong characteristics na manok, bloodline, healthy, good conditioning, good medication...etc.

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    kontra kaninong farm ba?

    sa tanong kasi hindi nababangit kung kaninong farm ang babanggain natin at kung anong level ng competion natin sila haharapin ( sa hackfight, ba o sa WSC). kung bacolod farm lang na hindi kilala ay pareho lang siguro ang ang tsansa manalo ng backyard sa farm.

    pero kung ang tinutuko natin ay farm ni lancy, hinlo, otec, nene, trebol etc., palagay ko may ibubuga ka na talaga kung maka-50/50 ka sa kanila. maaring talunin mo sila ngayong araw na ito, pero bukas malabo mo na maulit.

    at take note, na ang pinakamagaling na manok nila ay inilalaan nila sa mga bigtime derbies gaya ng wsc, candelaria etc., kung sakali sumali man sila ng 3 cock derby, medyo class C na yan o mga winner na may balda na ng kaunti. kaya hindi dahil tinalo natin sila sa 3 cock ay kaya na natin sila.

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    hi hunter ..your problem is how could counter part the big timer .and you are asking on how to find a lot of money . it s easy ...try to go in the bank and observe those person that withdraw alot of dollars then wait out side... then ...you know what you are going to do......thats the only way on how to counter part the bet of the big timer.. you told that you are long time here in sabong web no one can give you some idea on how to get more money .ooooooo ..ooh thats the solution ....of the problem to beating bigtimer......your problem was solve...:rbounce: :hat:

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    A GROUP...

    CAN EQUAL A BIG TIMER.

    Kung sampu kayo sa grupo. Tig 10T lang kayo, puede na kayo sumali sa Derby with the big boys.

    Ang tari sa big boys ay sobra ding talas at mabagsik.

    Ngunit manok? parehas lang. Iisa lang ang buhay nyan.

    Haluan nyo ng dugo ng pusa na syam ang buhay!:smoke:

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    kahit sino lang

    im just a backyard also...pero tuwing may entry ako sa 1st district ng iloilo madalas puro bigtime ang mina match sa mga nokis ko gaya ng PN farm,PL farm,manuel polo ng oton,tatoy ng villa and so many more pinapatay rin ng manok ko ang mga manok nila kong minsan tresan pa isang angatan lang patay manok nila...kaya wag tayo takot sa mga bigtime...

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