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  • Bruce Barnett

    44 24.58%
  • Dink Fair

    54 30.17%
  • Chris Nesmith

    72 40.22%
  • Jerry Adkins

    2 1.12%
  • Gene Batia

    4 2.23%
  • Larry Romero

    3 1.68%
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    WINNINGEST SWEATER BREED in PI

    Does It came from

    Bruce Barnett
    Jerry Adkins
    Dink Fair
    Larry Romero
    Chris Nesmith
    Gene Batia

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    Re: WINNINGEST SWEATER BREED in PI

    sa klase at istilo ng panalo
    yung mga cross sa dink fair
    halos pulbusin nila sa palo ang kalaban
    very convincing-----ang lalakas humataw

    marami ring mga breeders na nagpapanalo
    na nakakuha ng mga dink fair broodstocks
    through atty. jun mendoza

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    Re: WINNINGEST SWEATER BREED in PI

    G7 Lines

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    Winningest Sweater Breed In The Philippines

    CAROL NeSMITH SWEATERS are the SWEATERS that have the MOST WINS IN THE PHILIPPINES.

    Based on the World Slasher Cup, only the SWEATERS of Carol NeSmith (BLACKWATER) was able to get a BACK-TO-BACK win when Carol NeSmith teamed up with Nene Abello.

    Another story of the BLACKWATER SWEATERS winning the World Slasher Cup is the KING GRANT BLACKWATER (KGB) of Francis Lomunsad.

    Not yet satisfied, well, the WSC I '06, again, Nene Abello, Chris NeSmith and Willy Villarica dominated the derby by using 3 PURE BLACKWATER SWEATERS and SWEATER CROSSES for the rest.

    I belive that these proofs are enough to say that the BLACKWATER SWEATERS are dominating in the Philippines.

    BLACKWATER POSSUM SWEATER LINE

    This Sweater Bloodline, is elusive and is a high-breaker. It does not go head on with its opponent; instead, it waits until it sees an openning and quickly shuffles with deliberate accuracy.

    The Bloodline is best to cross with 1/4 Roundhead, Kelso or Yellow Legged Hatch or Gilmore Hatch.

    The BRUCE BARNETT SWEATERS are not far from the list. It places second.

    A breeder who has proven the BARNETT SWEATERS is Sonny Lagon who also won the World Slasher Cup.

    In addition, Boy Marzo also patronizes the BARNETT SWEATERS and is doing well with them.

    In the Philippines, the BLACKWATER SWEATERS and the BARNETT SWEATERS can be fought pure.

    The JERRY ADKINS SWEATER of the SLICK LIZARD GAMEFARM is a runner-up. These (NeSMITH, BARNETT and ADKINS) are just neighbors, and the Slick Lizard Sweaters have similar fighting styles as the two former Sweaters.

    Although, the Adkins Sweater is not yet popular in the Philippines, because the BLACKWATER and BARNETT dominate the cockpit.

    The DINK FAIR SWEATERS are the least among the list.

    The reason is that these SWEATERS are made for the Short Knife. Thus, it needs infusion of other bloodlines like Roundheads, Whitehackles, etc.

    It is not a high-breaker compared to the POSSUM, $5000 OF BARNETT and 4 WEBBER of JERRY ADKINS. It just has machine gun shuffles on the ground. It plays just a YELLOW LEGGED HATCH, but a little fancier. The breeders who are popular with this bloodline are Raffy Campos and Edwin Aranez of RED GAMEFARM and Doc Ayong Lorenzo of EXCELLENCE

    But of course, the taste for the SWEATERS is relative. But for me, the aforementioned statements are purely my opinion and based on observation.

    God bless.

    -Tres Mentiras

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    Re: WINNINGEST SWEATER BREED in PI

    What line is G7.

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    Re: WINNINGEST SWEATER BREED in PI

    I AGREE with Tres Mentrias............... winning the WSC back-to-back is not just pure luck..........

    BLACKWATER SWEATERS will remain a formidable fighting cock in many years more to come............

    sir dogmancarter.............
    G7 lines are a myth............. they never exist as the man claims......... it is more of a funny make-believe story rather than a reality........

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    sweater??????????????? na na man.... maganda yan sa tag lamig...keeps u warm....

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    Re: WINNINGEST SWEATER BREED in PI

    I think Dink and Chris has about 30% of Philippine based customers. And the rest is in Mexico. It will be nice to see the other 70% in how they do. Some fight it pure also in that other side of the world.

    I believe it is unfair to measure it based on exposure.

    The thread says "winningest" - which means in statistics most wins whether small time or big time in PI.

    good luck to all!! and merry xmas!

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    Re: Winningest Sweater Breed In The Philippines

    Quote Originally Posted by tres_mentiras

    The DINK FAIR SWEATERS are the least among the list.

    The reason is that these SWEATERS are made for the Short Knife. Thus, it needs infusion of other bloodlines like Roundheads, Whitehackles, etc.

    It is not a high-breaker compared to the POSSUM, $5000 OF BARNETT and 4 WEBBER of JERRY ADKINS. It just has machine gun shuffles on the ground. It plays just a YELLOW LEGGED HATCH, but a little fancier. The breeders who are popular with this bloodline are Raffy Campos and Edwin Aranez of RED GAMEFARM and Doc Ayong Lorenzo of EXCELLENCE

    -Tres Mentiras
    those who had been to Dink's farm lately keenly observed. He is and still gradually grading his sweaters for mid to high (tall) stations... gradually... so its something to watch in the years to come... this is the good thing with this sport, everything changes in a blink of an eye...

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    Re: Winningest Sweater Breed In The Philippines

    For me its the Bruce Barnett Sweater is the winningest.........

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    Wink Re: WINNINGEST SWEATER BREED in PI

    Chinese sweaters of William Go also.

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    I may say its Bruce Barnett Sweaters..

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    Blackwater shows the record book.

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    Tres Mentiras,

    I agree with your contention in particular with the Adkins Sweaters and 4 Weber. However, I'm curious when did Sonny Lagon win a WSC title? I always thought this tiltle has eluded him for years.

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    Boy Marzo won the WSC a couple of years ago using offsprings of Sonny Lagon's sweater broodstocks.


    Sonny Lagon came close to winning it, but still came up short.

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    Re: WINNINGEST SWEATER BREED in PI

    No doubt Blue Blade has it all together BUT the Cup still went to BM. Perhaps it's just a matter of time for Blue Blade to shine at the pinacle of this sport.

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    IMHO, Dink Fair, a majority of backyard and some bigtime breeders uses dink's sweaters in the phils. he is more of a mass base comparing to Nesmith's and BB's. meaning a lot of his fowls have been fought w/c makes them the winningest of all !!!

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    Re: WINNINGEST SWEATER BREED in PI

    I stand corrected. It was BOY MARZO who won, and SONNY LAGON just had good records with the BRUCE BARNETT SWEATERS

    Here are the CREDENTIALS of BLUE BLADE FARM:

    2000 UCAP BREEDER OF THE YEAR 8.8 M Hatawan Derby Champion

    2001 UCAP BREEDER OF THE YEAR

    2002 BALBINA CUP & CHAMPION UCAP Runner Up Cocker of the Year

    2003 UCAP COCKER OF THE YEAR

    2004 CANDELARIA ANNUAL DEBRY CHAMPION

    2005 LGBA BREEDER OF THE YEAR 5 M Mandaue Derby Champion

    2006 GCAP "ONE DAY 7-COCK DERBY" Solo Champion


    The Dink Fair Sweaters should be improved still, but its advantage among the others is its POWER.

    Even if the Dink Fair Sweaters is a Sweater for the masses, and is claimed to have been the winningest fowls perhaps in the country side and some of the big time derbies; still nothing beats the credentials of a SWEATER that won in the World Salsher Cup where the birds are pitted to the BEST OF THE BEST BIRDS IN THE COUNTRY.

    Beating 3 year old cocks with mutliple wins in Araneta during January and June is a credential that becomes a landmark of success.

    Just sharing my opinion.

    To all SWEATER LOVERS, MABUHAY KAYONG LAHAT!!!

    God bless.

    -Tres Mentiras

    NOTE: But in last year's BAKBAKAN BULLSTAG, BLUE BLADE SWEATER and BULALAYAW SWEATER sulked. But of course, it happens.

    It is unfair to give a hasty generalization that all their fowls are sulkers.

    They have worked hard for their victory. They deserve respect regardless....

    We sabungeros are gentlemen in this noble sports.

    Again, BLACKWATER SWEATERS have their records to back up the claim of being on TOP of the SWEATER LIST.

    Credit should go to the NeSmiths.

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    i say its d carol nesmith sweaters that dominates the winningest sweaters in the pi,no need to ellaborate more,blackwater sweaters are the best....
    Last edited by lemon gold; December 27th, 2006 at 08:31 AM.

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    Re: WINNINGEST SWEATER BREED in PI

    In My Honest Opinion.the Most Winningest Sweater Is The One That Ordinary People Have Access To.regular Sabungeros Fight Almost Every Week Or Maybe More Including Tupadas.while Bigtime Like Boy Marso And The Like Fights Only In Bigtime And Maybe 3x A Month?
    Who Knows How Many Sweater Blood Are Being Fought In The Pi Everyday?if It's A Red Cock With Yellow Leg And Shaffles Some.....we Call It Sweaters! But Who's Sweater Blood?
    I Agree With Bro Tres On The Most Winningest On Money Fights And Big Time Derbys.according To Statistics.
    Jmho...rod

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    Re: WINNINGEST SWEATER BREED in PI

    I'll go for CHRIS NESMITH of BLACKWATER FARM...

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    i really don't care how many wsc victories does abello and nesmith get...i want to know how many abello nesmith buyers are doing well with their fowls? then we can judge whether they are the winningest sweater breeder in the philippines...

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    Kogs, I agree with you. Probably the Aces are reserved to their big time buyers in the Philippines.

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    some of the individuals i know who got acquainted, used and bought fowls from nene abello...
    mario villamor- phoenix entry...cocker of the year nca ...
    gerry alcantara-sta elena, big fight, montalban entry names
    buddy basilio-pcc cocker of the year
    robert so
    dong chung
    william go and so on

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    Re: WINNINGEST SWEATER BREED in PI

    Chris Nesmith...Dink Fair...Bruce Barnett...

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    I agree with you kogs.

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    jlbs72...i fought and lost 5 straight abello sweaters this year. 4W 3L nesmith sweater with the help of lance de la torre lemon roundhead...5W 0L 3/4 dink fair 1/4 lemon lance de la torre. sweaters when fought straight is not the winningest breed in p.i. dink fair sweater
    or kelso with a touch of a good lemon is a force to reckon with...

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    You're right kogs. I think that majority of sweater breeders would admit that straight bred sweaters still needs a little infusion of the rh or lemon to make a good lk fighter.

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    blackwater sweaters are the best. i really love seeing them in my yard. whew!!!! what a life seeing and feeding them everyday

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    i don't care in whose hands they are winning but the sweater 5000 line is the winningest
    sweater in p.i. without a doubt...

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