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    Crowe/rat Graves Lieper Hatch

    info regarding these breed is greatly appreciated.

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    those leipers came originally from jimmy east and penny's and mcleans were added to give them the height and flight for already a all around athlete...

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    those leipers came originally from jimmy east and penny's and mcleans were added to give them the height and flight for already a all around athlete...

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    Re: Crowe/rat Graves Lieper Hatch

    Is that the same as Gary Gilliam's bone crusher hatch?

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    do you have contact no/email/website of rat graves....read a lot of his bird, awesome,,especially with his double hatch-kelsos....anybody in P.I. have his bloodlines?
    thanks

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    I think Gen Gen Arayata had a bloodlines from rat graves, if i'm not mistaken he(GEnGen) stayed in rat graves way back a couple of years ago

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    Kogs is right. The leipers came from Jimmy East. The Graves brothers blended the penny and leipers together. The cutting comes from the leipers and the penny's added the gameness and power and size. This is according to Crow.

    I have Crow's leipers and some penny leiper pullets. I'm breeding them right now. The leipers of Crow comes green legged and sometimes blue legged. Crow sent me a blue legged stag and one blue legged pullet. The penny leipers cross come green legged.

    The Graves brothers have the same leiper and penny bloods, but probably different in fighting style now since they went their separate ways almost five years ago. I guess this is true because a friend of mine bought leipers from Rat and he said they are really good ground fighters. While the one I got from Crow is exhibiting aerial moves when I sparred him.

    If I have extra cash, I would want to get some from Rat also and blend it with the ones I got from Crow just to have two families of leipers.

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    Re: Crowe/rat Graves Lieper Hatch

    Thanks for the info's. I believed, one of the 2007 WSD winners
    used GRAVE'S hatch blend gamefowls?

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    Re: Crowe/rat Graves Lieper Hatch

    ...i meaned 2006 WSD.

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    Jimmy East Jr. and Rat Graves still trade or swap bloodlines up to now. Rat and Crow got their start using Jimmy East Jr.'s leipers almost fifteen years ago.

    According to Crow and Rat most of those they used in Mid-America were penny leiper blends and leiper penny blends.

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    crow graves

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    pure lieper. F1 from d old johnny mitchell broodfowls

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    full brother2 d above

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    Re: Crowe/rat Graves Lieper Hatch

    JBAB_ALAS, since you have been in Crowes' farm, will you confirm if this is true: that 3 fingers are missng on his right hand due to accident with his own fully- armed rooster.

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    Re: Crowe/rat Graves Lieper Hatch

    JBAB_ALAS, the posted picture on the other topic confirmed my inquiry.

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    yes & no sir. from what he told me he got an accident way back. wish u did not ask this question.

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    Re: Crowe/rat Graves Lieper Hatch

    ...i should have browse first......MY APOLOGY.

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    Re: Crowe/rat Graves Lieper Hatch

    Sir ,according To My Neighbor Who Visit The Diamnod J Gamefarm Are The

    True Originator Of His Leiper... I Just Dont Know The Owmer Of The Gamefarm.

    That Was 5 Yrs. Ago.my Friend Buy A Trio From Diamond J About 2000. That Was 5 Yrs. Ago

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    Diamond J is owned by Jimmy East Jr. .. He used to fly down our way and fight a whole lot .. Them Hatch birds are some of the most athletic birds I've seen .. The only thing abou t them was that they would be on the short side at times .. They are beautiful birds with all the ability in the world.

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    Re: Crowe/rat Graves Lieper Hatch

    Quote Originally Posted by bonecrash
    Sir ,according To My Neighbor Who Visit The Diamnod J Gamefarm Are The

    True Originator Of His Leiper... I Just Dont Know The Owmer Of The Gamefarm.

    That Was 5 Yrs. Ago.my Friend Buy A Trio From Diamond J About 2000. That Was 5 Yrs. Ago

    Yup... Graves brothers got their Leipers from Jimmy East Jr. But that was fifteen something years ago... Now Jim Jr. swaps blood with Rat...

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    Re: Crowe/rat Graves Lieper Hatch

    Hi, guys Iam looking for information about phone number of rat/crow I really want to keep in touch with this guys

    tanks for youe help

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    nice liepers.

    Al

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    Starrer;

    That Is True And Correct Sir.even Jr East Have Bloodlines Came From Rat Graves.although Original Stocks Came From Jr East But Rat Graves Developed It And Made Him Famous For These Lines Of Hatches.

    And The Name Stock To Our Mind " The Hatch Village " The Cracking Sound ,the Thundering Blows,the Gameness..two Thumbs Up!



    Cheers Guys!

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    Re: Crowe/rat Graves Lieper Hatch

    Sir Kogs - if you were to pick one: will you pick Graves Leiper or Jeff Hudspeth?

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    Johnny Mitchell hands down. Great for the LK.

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    Re: Crowe/rat Graves Lieper Hatch

    another guy who have a nice lieper is john barker of gloversville ny ,his lieper also came from jimmy east jr.won 54 out of 59 fights in one season .

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    yes this is tru hi fougt jimmy east junior fowls ,

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    Hi,

    Can anyone here post the contact number of RATGRAVES?

    Thanks

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    Re: Crowe/rat Graves Lieper Hatch

    try this no# 918 485 3260--- bloodlines bone crusher hatch , sheryl penny . sweater

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    Re: Crowe/rat Graves Lieper Hatch

    I just got a sweater broodstag and two pure leiper pullets from Crow Graves. I shipped it today thru Willie D. The sweater is Crow's own sweater version. It has Bruce's sweater blood in it and a couple more sweater blood.

    It doesn't look like a bruce no more, but the cutting, breaking, smartness and cutting again will remind you of a Bruce. The station is a whole lot better too... Lots of white on the tails and lemon/orange hackles. If I may add, very powerfull also on the ground...

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