rolando84, a lot of fowl are called hatches because they look like a hatch, leiper is one, like the majority of your breeds, the breeding has changed over the years, leipers do make nice crosses for lk
rolando84, a lot of fowl are called hatches because they look like a hatch, leiper is one, like the majority of your breeds, the breeding has changed over the years, leipers do make nice crosses for lk
they are super aggressive and fast. imo they need a little more smarts and pull their head back a little more cause of thier bulldog style and thats about it. some like their style pure though.
Well reading the history from above the hatch that are good are actually leipers. He breed them for hatch and mclean. Sounds like hatch are the leipers doing not hatch. So this being said hatch should be called leipers.
I do know this Johnny Mitchell got his chickens from Leiper and when i went to visit Johnny he called them Leiper hatch. So if you want to call them hatch call them hatch. That like some people calling democrats hatch when in actualality they are Griffin Claret and blueface cross.
My Jr. Strange leipers are as good of family of fowl as ive ever owned. when crossed on my blacks they are damn near perfect.
the breeder i got my lieper cock from said they were hatch thats good enough for me...thought "blueface" was "blueface hatch"? what its always been called in "Gamecock".....
the leaper is a hatch family started out made from white hackle and brown red as all hatch familys did. its all ways been call a hatch so were do you get its not judge leaper made his family of hatch fowl you did not
I agree with bigmatw and four winds if its a leioer or mclean or yellow legged then its still a hatch lol
Quick question, What is a leiper? Hatch or round head.
just bumping this up. Who here knows. Ialways thought they were hatch.
From my best understanding, Hatch blood was never infused into the original Leiper fowl. They are commonly called "Hatches" because of their "show" style. The original Leiper fowl were originated from an Irish Brown Red cock over a Kearney White Hackle hen. Leiper then crossed a Boston Round Head over the hens of the original cross, and then bred back to one of the Brown Red/White Hackle cocks.
They were made exactly like the original hatch fowl.....brownred and whitehackle crossed....then the roundhead was put in them. They aren't technically a "hatch" fowl since they were bred by judge leiper and not sandford hatch...but before the roundhead was put in them, they were nearly the same.
Howard Suttles from Georgia advertised "Lieper HATCH yellow & green legs for years~???
Wasn't the Yellow leg hatch made with Boston RH too???
Nice info . I was always wondering about that .. so if they aren't hatch what group do they fall into ?
i always though they were hatches...wow who would of thohg
I guess they would be called "Leiper Fowl" since they were bred by judge Leiper. Like the "Hatch Fowl" were bred by Sanford Hatch.Originally Posted by vic5.0
Someone correct me if I am wrong.
Sounds about right to me.
that is the reason why i just call them leipers not leiper hatch, alot of people make a mistake by adding the 2 names together. but who knows now adays they might have a lil hatch blood in them
Since Leiper and hatch are similar, I call them Leiper Hatch, cause a lot of breeders breed em together, Hatch and Leiper, so there is also something called Leiper Hatch.
Its a blend of both leiper and hatch.
wow... interestin... good to know.. nice info...
In my opinion, today's leipers are hatch more than anything else...
Leiper, Mclean, Gilmore etc... All just names to make birds more marketable. I am sure they may trace their roots back to the original blood but if you were to compare them to the originals as bred by their namesakes they would bare little or no resemblance in terms of looks and style.
Hatch is a term used loosely to associate any fowl with green or blue legs. The original hatch come both green and yellow legged. I know a guy who still raises the hatch from Mr Hatch. He also said that would be one of his last lines he would part with.
I really like them, this is the first year I've had them and I am pleased. I would like to hear some more from people that has them and their experiences with them.
Some people like them some people dislike them they are just like any fowl. What I do know is that they use these a lot in the Mexican shows. You always see a Rat or Cedar Creek Leiper in a picture of a big Event in Mexico. They seem to be consistent winners in big derby's.
i think the reason is cause they are very aggressive and cut well. once they get ya they dont let go. also are so aggressive dont give opponent time to think. jmo
I like the sound of that.They are not the kind that always goes for a bill hold are they?
Everybody breeds differently. Some leipers fight and cut like roundheads and some fight like traditional hatch with a lot of bottom.
Right to the point. I agree. That is why my lieper, penny, mclean and gilmore looks similar. Green legged, dark feathered and strong hitters chicken.
I was told this line I got come from Jimmy East, so I hope they do well.
a picture of my leiper when it was a stag,
And the pullet, but this is an old pic she is now producing for us
these are Rat graves leipers, acquired through sir erwin Rabonza of jbr farm
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