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    Re: ECLIPSE HACKSAW BLADES for TARI

    Pili na kayo dito, hehehe !!!

    About Blade Steel
    The most common blade material used to make knives is iron and carbon that is enhanced with a variety of elements such as chromium, vanadium, manganese, and more. Different types of steel are created by adjusting the amounts of each material that is added. Stainless steels, for instance, are created by adding more rust resistant materials.

    Finishing processes play a large role in creating blade steel. Processes such as rolling and heat treating have a great affect on performance. Each material performs differently under varying finishing processes.

    154CM
    This is an American made stainless steel that was originally developed to make turbine blades in jet engines. It is very similar to ATS-34. It's very corrosion resistant and has good toughness and edge quality.

    440C
    This is a stainless steel that is used on many factory manufactured knife blades. It is very tough and extremely stain resistant. It holds an edge well and is fairly easy to sharpen. It is generally hardened to between 56 and 59 Rc., and makes a great all around blade. 440C is far superior to most other 400 series steels. 440A and 440B are not as good.

    ATS-34
    This is a stainless steel that comes from Japan and is very similar to The U.S.'s 154CM. It became very popular with knife makers in the 1990's as a higher quality alternative to 440C. The steel is not as rust resistant as 440C, but holds a better edge. The carbon content is 1.04% . It works best when hardened to between 59 Rc to 61 Rc.

    AUS-8
    This steel has a low carbon to chromium ratio. It is very resistant to corrosion, and is very tough, but does not hold an edge as well as many other steel variations with higher carbon content.

    BG-42
    This material is a stainless steel. It has a better edge holding ability than 44C and ATS-34, and is tougher than ATS-34. Works best when hardened to 61 - 63 Rc.

    D2
    This material is a very high carbon steel (1.5%) that has superb edge holding ability and unmatched wear resistance, but lacks toughness. It is not as corrosion resistant as 440C or ATS-34, and is not considered a stainless steel because it only has 12% chrome. Stainless blades have 13% or more.

    Damascus
    Damascus is made of a variety of steels that are layered together. The finishing process involves an acid etch that exposes the surface lines. The end result is a tough blade with good edge quality. It is quite expensive and used mostly for its artistic nature.

    H1
    H1's claim to fame is its corrosion resistance. Blades made of the material sacrifice edge quality for this corrosion resistance and toughness.

    M2
    This is an extremely tough, tool grade steel. It is used mostly for industrial cutting tasks. The steel has superb strength and is extremely wear resistant, but is highly susceptible to corrosion.

    S30V
    This is a premium grade steel that was designed in the U.S. for knife making. It has very good edge holding ability and is very corrosion resistant.

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    may gusto rin po akong malaman @ matutunan kaya sali ako dito;
    mukhang nabitin po tau lahat ke Sir Red M, ano kaya nangyari...sana nakatulog lang,
    Sir Red M, w8 namin ang revelation mo ng bakal na sinasabi mo!

    @ sa mga cockm8s na very generous sa pag share ng kanilang alam sa mga uri ng bakal na gamit sa pag gawa ng tari, SALAMAT PO SA INY !

    baka po may alam kau sa "sunbeam" talim din po raw ito ng lagare, may nakagamit nb sa inyo nito?

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    actually M2 is not a brand. it is an american standard name for a certain kind of steel of a certain nominal chemical composition.

    steel names (like those enumerated by Rigolleto) may vary depending on the country's naming standard.

    ive long settled for M-2 because its affordable, available (STARRET REDSTRIPE hacksaw blade), and offers decent toughness and hardness suitable for making tari blades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugbo_slashers
    actually M2 is not a brand. it is an american standard name for a certain kind of steel of a certain nominal chemical composition.

    steel names (like those enumerated by Rigolleto) may vary depending on the country's naming standard.

    ive long settled for M-2 because its affordable, available (STARRET REDSTRIPE hacksaw blade), and offers decent toughness and hardness suitable for making tari blades.
    Thanks Sir for the info!!!! Meron din kc ako starret knives sa collection ko

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    mga cockmates anong magandang klase na gawing tari na mabili lang dito sa HOME DEPOT ?

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    up lang natin...

    yung original na eclipse, doon lang bah mabibili sa UK ?... so thru the internet lang kung hindi ka taga UK ? kasi pinsan ko nagpabili sa akin para gawing tari....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taga_Cebu
    up lang natin...

    yung original na eclipse, doon lang bah mabibili sa UK ?... so thru the internet lang kung hindi ka taga UK ? kasi pinsan ko nagpabili sa akin para gawing tari....
    may mga labas na gawang china yan
    mas mura..........pero lesser quality

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    try ninyo yung ULTRA RECORD, vacuum heat treated na siya. Puedeng gamitin ng dalawang beses kahit di na ipabasyada.

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    ano bang klasing hacksaw na pueding gamitin tari na mura at available sa amerika?

    ang dewalt dw 7747 14" eto magandang gawin tari lalu na kapag derby pinapasukan dahil metal to metal ang gamit kaya lang masyadung mahal almost $300 us dollar. need more help and info mga cockmates.

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    yung mga circular na mga saw blades, eh paano ba ito e cut para size ng tari ?... at saan ka magkuha ng point nila ... sa outer edge bah ng saw ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taga_Cebu
    yung mga circular na mga saw blades, eh paano ba ito e cut para size ng tari ?... at saan ka magkuha ng point nila ... sa outer edge bah ng saw ?
    ito sir tingnan nyo po ito video ng pagtabas ng blade
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmhQpvY4LqI

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taga_Cebu
    up lang natin...

    yung original na eclipse, doon lang bah mabibili sa UK ?... so thru the internet lang kung hindi ka taga UK ? kasi pinsan ko nagpabili sa akin para gawing tari....
    DITO SA QATAR 40 RIYALS ANG ISA

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    Quote Originally Posted by dondongaff
    ito sir tingnan nyo po ito video ng pagtabas ng blade
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmhQpvY4LqI
    i prefer wire cutting method
    sa ganyang material

    ganyang material din ang gamit namin
    dami nyan dito sa germany
    Last edited by expressdelivery; April 9th, 2008 at 07:23 PM.

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    bai don2 salamat...next month masobhan natong imong mga tari bai...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjnic87
    ano bang klasing hacksaw na pueding gamitin tari na mura at available sa amerika?

    ang dewalt dw 7747 14" eto magandang gawin tari lalu na kapag derby pinapasukan dahil metal to metal ang gamit kaya lang masyadung mahal almost $300 us dollar. need more help and info mga cockmates.

    up lang natin wala pang info.....................

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    Quote Originally Posted by expressdelivery
    i prefer wire cutting method
    sa ganyang material

    ganyang material din ang gamit namin
    dami nyan dito sa germany
    mas mabuti talaga pag wire cutting kaso may kamahalan po dito ang pag tabas at per minute pa ang singilan. Pagkaganun eh hindi ko na maibenta ang tari ko sa masang pinoy sabungero. nakasubok na ako at umabot ng 750 ang singilan ng pagtabas ng isang blade. Sabagay, well defined po yung pagkatabas nito pag wire cutting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjnic87
    up lang natin wala pang info.....................
    makapaghanap nga dito sa Ireland baka meron dito dewalt at eclipse blade.at up natin baka meron pa ibang klase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basyo
    makapaghanap nga dito sa Ireland baka meron dito dewalt at eclipse blade.at up natin baka meron pa ibang klase.

    oo nga bro wala pang additional info sa mga kasama natin dito............

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    Quote Originally Posted by dondongaff
    mas mabuti talaga pag wire cutting kaso may kamahalan po dito ang pag tabas at per minute pa ang singilan. Pagkaganun eh hindi ko na maibenta ang tari ko sa masang pinoy sabungero. nakasubok na ako at umabot ng 750 ang singilan ng pagtabas ng isang blade. Sabagay, well defined po yung pagkatabas nito pag wire cutting.
    maganda ang mga gawa mong tari parekoyyyy
    i like your design and angle nila

    gumagawa ka rin ba ng ganitong design?
    single blade lang at narrow ang blade
    diamond type


    posted by jolan.............
    Quote Originally Posted by jolan
    Pinakamaganda para sa akin di malapad di manipis at matibay.



    Last edited by expressdelivery; April 10th, 2008 at 03:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dondongaff
    mas mabuti talaga pag wire cutting kaso may kamahalan po dito ang pag tabas at per minute pa ang singilan. Pagkaganun eh hindi ko na maibenta ang tari ko sa masang pinoy sabungero. nakasubok na ako at umabot ng 750 ang singilan ng pagtabas ng isang blade. Sabagay, well defined po yung pagkatabas nito pag wire cutting.
    dondongaff............anong ibig mong sabihin wire cutting?

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    may mga materials akong ganyan
    gaya ng mga tinatabas nyo sa video
    HSS circular saw.......industrial type....not merely hometools
    blueblack ang kulay
    nakukuha ko sa mga liquidation sale
    ng mga steel company sa germany
    karamihan ay nasa 2.5 mm to 3mm ang thickness
    meron ding 2mm ang kapal
    30 to 35cm ang diameter

    Quote Originally Posted by dondongaff
    ito sir tingnan nyo po ito video ng pagtabas ng blade
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmhQpvY4LqI

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjnic87
    dondongaff............anong ibig mong sabihin wire cutting?
    parang laser cutting po yun sir, sa mga advance machineshop po yun kadalasan makikita.

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    Kahit anong klase ang tabas basta mananalo k lang

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    Quote Originally Posted by redrooster25
    Kahit anong klase ang tabas basta mananalo k lang
    tama kayo sir red. "it's the blade that kills" sabi pa nga ng isang kaibigan natin dito sa net.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eggnog_54
    MGA KASABONG FRIENDS...cNO BA MGA EXPERT D2 SA TARI KASI LATELY NAGPAGAWA AKO NG TARI E2 ECLIPSE BLADE ANG GINAMIT. E2 KASI RECOMMENDED NG TARI MAKER NAMIN AT MAGANDA NAMAN ANG RESULT SAMIN & JUST NEEDED MORE INFO JUST INCASE MERON PA MAS HIGIT NA MAGANDA D2 O ANG DISADVANTAGES NG MATERYALES NA E2..


    KASI MERON AKO NAKITA D2 SA ABROAD NA BILIHAN NG MGA BLADES SO IF MAGANDA E2 EH MAKABILI NA NG PAUNTI UNTI PRA MAIPON KO MAIUWE SA VACATION KO...

    sA MGA NAKAGAMIT NMAN PO N2 PKI SHARE LNG NMAN NG COMMENTS NYO ... SALAMAT!!!
    sa experiensya ko kung power hacksaw blade lang naman ang tari ko ang T-1 also known as 18-4-1 steel ang mas mainam..medyo mahirap lang hanapin ngayon ito kesa mga power hacksaw blade na M2 or molybdenum type steel katulad ng eclipse, starrett, blu-mol, lenox,capewell, kapman, simonds, marvel etc...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_speed_steel

    pag bigyan parin natin ng importansya ang mga magagaling na basyador maliban sa mga maayos na bakal sa panahon na ito... maraming magagaling na panday ng tari pero hindi magaling sa basyada...isa ito sa dahilan kung bakit natitiris ang dulo ng tari ay dahil sa hindi tamang pag basyada..ito'y sa experyensya ko lang sa mahigit 25 anyos sa pagpapagawa at pag papa basyada...sa ngayon iba ang panday at iba rin ang basyador ko....

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    Magandang Talakayan ito paki post din po ng mga pics ng bakal na nabili ninyo. thanks

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    yung ECLIPSE 30 ALL HARD M2 na hacksaw pwede ba tayo maka cut sa anomang parte ng blade OR strictly sa malapit lang sa may ngipin nila ?... kasi sabi nga yung all hard na eclipse ay pareho ang timpla sa buo ng blade at hindi kagaya sa ibang blades na bi-metal na epina weld lang ang ngipin ?

    at saan na mga sites na maka bili tayo ng eclipse 30 all hard m2 na pwede hindi bundle of 100 ang kunin natin ?... kasi inquire ako at kailangan bundle talaga ang bilhin ?.... mga 20 pieces man lang ang kailangan ko.

    better yet... sino dita may extra na eclipse 30 all hard m2 na mga blades ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taga_Cebu
    yung ECLIPSE 30 ALL HARD M2 na hacksaw pwede ba tayo maka cut sa anomang parte ng blade OR strictly sa malapit lang sa may ngipin nila ?... kasi sabi nga yung all hard na eclipse ay pareho ang timpla sa buo ng blade at hindi kagaya sa ibang blades na bi-metal na epina weld lang ang ngipin ?

    at saan na mga sites na maka bili tayo ng eclipse 30 all hard m2 na pwede hindi bundle of 100 ang kunin natin ?... kasi inquire ako at kailangan bundle talaga ang bilhin ?.... mga 20 pieces man lang ang kailangan ko.

    better yet... sino dita may extra na eclipse 30 all hard m2 na mga blades ?
    please call them for price quote..

    http://www.newmantools.com/eclipse/eclhack.htm

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    up ko uli sa mga may alam dyan post na kayo.

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