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    Hi Doc TJT,

    I have couple of queries in my mind about an airconditioned cockhouse and keeping using an airconditioned cockhouse...


    a) What is the right Horse Power for an aircon cockhouse with certain Length Width and Height of the Cockhouse? Can you give us an example of the size of the cokhouse that you used from your experience and the power rating of the airconditioning unit that was installed?

    b) What is the right Temperature and Humidity inside the cockhouse?

    c) When do I need a dehumidifier?

    d) What are the points to observe from a rooster that's been in the airconditioned cockhouse during the keep?

    e) Do I need my battlefowls to be in the airconditioned cockhouse throughout the 21 day keep or do I need to train them to be there even during the pre-conditioning stage?

    f) Is there a maximum hrs that my battlefowls needed to be in my airconditioned cockhouse?


    thanks in advance for your tips and replies...



    cheers and more power to you doc...

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    a) What is the right Horse Power for an aircon cockhouse with certain Length Width and Height of the Cockhouse? Can you give us an example of the size of the cokhouse that you used from your experience and the power rating of the airconditioning unit that was installed?
    My cockhouse is constructed with 4 rooms. One room is for the limbering pen and fly pen. I have a separate room for my handlers & caretakers and a private rooom for myself.
    Then I have a special room designed for holding 16 resting stalls.
    I prefer to put my roosters in a separate room so that they are not affected by the movement from the handlers and to prevent the fluctuation of the temperature inside the room.

    The airconditioner in the room for the resting stalls is one half horsepower. The size of the room is approximately 20X30.
    b) What is the right Temperature and Humidity inside the cockhouse?
    I use an airconditioner that has a digital temperature guage because it is easier to adjust the temperature. The room is equipped with a dehumidifier, a thermometer and a hygrometer. The most comfortable temperature for them is 72-74 degrees Fahrenheit while the humidity level would be around 69%-72%.



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    c) When do I need a dehumidifier?
    The dehumidifier is used to remove the excess moisture in the room and in order for you to control the humidity in its right level.
    d) What are the points to observe from a rooster that's been in the airconditioned cockhouse during the keep?
    One important aspect to observe is their feathers. If you were able to maintain the sheen and texture of their feathers all throughout the day, then everything is perfect.
    Once you observe that the feathers became rough before fight time then their performance won't be as good as expected.

    One particular sign that I don't want to observe on fight day are those birds with cold nostrils because they would definitely have a hard time in the pit.


    e) Do I need my battlefowls to be in the airconditioned cockhouse throughout the 21 day keep or do I need to train them to be there even during the pre-conditioning stage?
    It is essential to have an airconditioned cockhouse in your game farm. Putting them there daily for 2 hours will make them get used to being kept in a controlled cockhouse.

    I have observed that roosters that were rested in an airconditioned cockhouse for only half a day perform poorly in the pit. I always have good results with chickens that were kept for more than a day but not exceeding 2 days. But don't forget to limber them outside the cockhouse once in a while.

    There are other factors but it is difficult to explain through writing. We can discuss this further in the academy.
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    very good info!

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    Great thread.You are an asset to this site and the whole sport.Keep on keeping on.



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    Quote Originally Posted by tjtcokngacademy
    a) What is the right Horse Power for an aircon cockhouse with certain Length Width and Height of the Cockhouse? Can you give us an example of the size of the cokhouse that you used from your experience and the power rating of the airconditioning unit that was installed?
    My cockhouse is constructed with 4 rooms. One room is for the limbering pen and fly pen. I have a separate room for my handlers & caretakers and a private rooom for myself.
    Then I have a special room designed for holding 16 resting stalls.
    I prefer to put my roosters in a separate room so that they are not affected by the movement from the handlers and to prevent the fluctuation of the temperature inside the room.

    The airconditioner in the room for the resting stalls is one half horsepower. The size of the room is approximately 20X30.
    b) What is the right Temperature and Humidity inside the cockhouse?
    I use an airconditioner that has a digital temperature guage because it is easier to adjust the temperature. The room is equipped with a dehumidifier, a thermometer and a hygrometer. The most comfortable temperature for them is 72-74 degrees Fahrenheit while the humidity level would be around 69%-72%.



    http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c3...ncockhouse.jpg


    c) When do I need a dehumidifier?
    The dehumidifier is used to remove the excess moisture in the room and in order for you to control the humidity in its right level.
    d) What are the points to observe from a rooster that's been in the airconditioned cockhouse during the keep?
    One important aspect to observe is their feathers. If you were able to maintain the sheen and texture of their feathers all throughout the day, then everything is perfect.
    Once you observe that the feathers became rough before fight time then their performance won't be as good as expected.

    One particular sign that I don't want to observe on fight day are those birds with cold nostrils because they would definitely have a hard time in the pit.


    e) Do I need my battlefowls to be in the airconditioned cockhouse throughout the 21 day keep or do I need to train them to be there even during the pre-conditioning stage?
    It is essential to have an airconditioned cockhouse in your game farm. Putting them there daily for 2 hours will make them get used to being kept in a controlled cockhouse.

    I have observed that roosters that were rested in an airconditioned cockhouse for only half a day perform poorly in the pit. I always have good results with chickens that were kept for more than a day but not exceeding 2 days. But don't forget to limber them outside the cockhouse once in a while.

    There are other factors but it is difficult to explain through writing. We can discuss this further in the academy.

    Great reply doc tjt. I am planning to have a small airconditioned cockhouse that will allow only maximum of 10 cooping stalls with the size of 4 Meters Width x 4 Meters Length @ 8 Feet High Ceiling. I planned that the 10 cooping stalls are all closed with just a small 1/2 inch x 4 inches hole and are to be placed inside the aircon cockhouse. Again thank you for your informative reply. I love to attend in your cocking academy and I'll see if I can make it when I get there if not this October then early next year. But I have another handler coming from Bacolod by this end of the month and planning to send him to your academy and I'll just verify all my derby schedules for the stag season so I can avoid conflicts during conditioning and keep.

    more power doc!


    cheers!
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    Doc couple more queries, Is it possible during the 3 day keep that I'll put the cocks in the airconditioned room then limber them outside for their droppings or Do I need to have them inside the airconditioned room as well when limbering for their drops...

    again thanks a lot!


    cheers!

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    If you plan to keep them inside your airconditioned cockhouse for 3 days, it would be best to put them in a limbering pen with a matting outside (15-20min) every morning to give them a chance to breathe some fresh air and enjoy the morning sun.
    However, I don't recommend that you do this in the afternoon especially when it's hot and humid because it would ruin your pointing.
    During the rest of the day, I limber them every 3 hours inside the cockhouse just to give them a chance to drop and to stretch & to 'loosen up'. Thus, preventing them from being coop stale.
    Remember to avoid too much fluctuations in the humidity reading and temperature inside the room. As quoted by Atty Bombit Abad..."the best barometer is not the thermometer nor the hygrometer but the reaction of the birds".
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    regards..............

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    Airconditioned Cockhouse


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    Roosters that are kept inside an airconditioned cockhouse should be limbered every 3 hours to prevent them from coop staleness.
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    Temperature and Humidity

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    You need to monitor the temperature and humidity with a reliable apparatus to maintain their comfort zone.
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    Great looking cockhouse!!! Puts most to shame , very clean.




    ,Zac

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    A nice cockhouse should be painted white enamel so that the glare in the walls......would "train his eyes" to get used to the "bright lights"...... he would expect..... in the pit.
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    Your cockhouse is very nice and clean Doc....cheers!

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    Doc TJT,

    Assuming i don't have one or my dehumidifier and humidifier broke while in the pit, what emergency steps should i do to maintain the desired (69-72 %) humidity of a climate controlled cockhouse ? Thanks..

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    What if there is no air conditioned cockhouse at the pit. What do you do when your out in the boonies, if you know what i mean. How would you control the humidity so and so. There is no way of dealing with mother nature. It's how and what you did to them roosters in the keep. Would like to know your way.

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    It all goes back to the basics. Preparation should be done at least one day in advance! Select a cockhouse that is not affected by the scourging heat of the afternoon sun. Clean and wet the cockhouse, including the curtains & the ground, a day before you bring your roosters.
    Assuming the cockpit is not airconditioned, you should maintain your cockhouse as cool and well ventilated as possible. Have a small fan running for air circulation.
    In a place where the cockpit & cockhouse are centralized, be there a day before to give yourself ample time to repair and provide the necessary apparatus to maintain the preferable temperature and humidity. Bringing them on the same day of the fight, without knowing what's wrong with your cockhouse, is a recipe for disaster.
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    thanks a lot doc...

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    Let me be a lil more specific. How would you control the moisture and feel of the rooster on fight day. Say you go to the pit, the humidity will go high and low at anytime. It could be dry at one point and wet at another. Sometimes it could be really hot and windy. Just curious. Thanks

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    In the past, before the advent of airconditioned cockhouses, i set up a block of ice covered with jute sack and i place it two feet away from the resting stalls to beat the summer heat. Then i place an electric fan focused on the side and the air simply rotates around the room. I cover their cages with a wet dark cloth and water is sprayed on the cloth from time to time to maintain a comfortable humidity. I learned this technique from Ninong Jesse Cabalza and during those days, he was lording every pit in town.

    As to the feel of the rooster....it would be hard to describe it in writing??? but to give you a little idea, it is better to point them more on the wet side because it is easier to tighten them on fight time...compared to a dry rooster that is bound to cut short especially when he goes to a drag fight.

    Maintaining your rooster's moisture depends on many factors and this is best discussed @
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    Nice idea..!

    This is a practical approached in cockhouses that does have an AC. How about the 'MIST SPRAY" will it work the same way as the juted ice with an electric fan?
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    Without a block of ice...mist spray might work.
    Thank you for sharing, kampakirit. Keep it up.
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    Doc,

    If my temperature and humidity were in the said comfort level. . . should i still cover my stalls including the flooring?

    I've observed this with some handlers in the big time. . .

    just wondering. . . because if my temperature and humidity were just right and then i cover my resting stalls. . . the temperature and humidity inside the stalls will be different. . . right?

    so should I cover it?

    I hope my question makes sense. . .

    thanks doc!

    more power!

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    good day brothers in the sport.....

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    doc,

    you've always emphasized in your posts even in your book that it is always best to let our chickens sleep in the teepee if the weather is fine (day before the fight). . .

    is this also true when you rest your chickens in an airconditioned cockhouse especially during summer? should we let them sleep outside?

    thanks

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    Doc,

    If my temperature and humidity were in the said comfort level. . . should i still cover my stalls including the flooring?

    I've observed this with some handlers in the big time. . .

    just wondering. . . because if my temperature and humidity were just right and then i cover my resting stalls. . . the temperature and humidity inside the stalls will be different. . . right?

    so should I cover it?

    I hope my question makes sense. . .

    thanks doc!

    more power!


    Since you've already set the comfort level, you don't have to cover the stalls.

    Covering the stalls & flooring are done by some conditioners to correct & adjust any fluctuations in the temperature/humidity level inside the cockhouse.

    Aside from having a thermometer/hydrometer in the room, I suggest that you place another one inside their cage to monitor what's happening inside their cages.
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    very informative thread, doc. and to all cockmates who posted sensical questions, thanks, too. i did pick up a whole lot of information just by going over all the posts on this thread.

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