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    Re: givins hatch

    Quote Originally Posted by leadfoot
    If you want true authentic Col. Givens Hatches contact Mr. Jerry Low of GA. he was one of the last people to get fowl off of Cols. yard (Directly) not 2nd or 3rd hand he was a personal friend of Col. Givens and got the best and knows more about his fowl than anyone out there his fowl are 1st rate. They compete on the major circut every year with good sucsess. Contact me for his number.
    hello sir how are you? im looking some givens hatches for mating to my bruce barnett sweater hen. Mr. Jerry Low that you mention can i please have his contact number...heres my email. rutherford_usa09@yahoo.com...thank you sir...more power

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    Re: givins hatch

    Quote Originally Posted by expressdelivery
    he is not selling a single feather
    Quote Originally Posted by expressdelivery

    he breeds only for his personal use
    as he once said here

    well, he does sell eggs. checkout the Dec. 2006 Gamecock issue's classified section.
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    Re: givins hatch

    Quote Originally Posted by rutherford_usa
    hello sir how are you? im looking some givens hatches for mating to my bruce barnett sweater hen. Mr. Jerry Low that you mention can i please have his contact number...heres my email. rutherford_usa09@yahoo.com...thank you sir...more power
    Jerry Lows farm number 770- 735- 1517 call in the evenings.

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    col givens

    not mine these are owned by mr odaz
    Last edited by APSgames; January 27th, 2007 at 10:11 AM.

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    Smile Re: givins hatch

    Guys,

    Here are the people that has acquired the Colonel's broodyard on a repetitive basis.

    1) Ray Westall
    2) Ricky Smith of R&A Farms
    3) Tony Hicks

    You can have a very good selection if you to these gentleman.

    Thanks,

    spangle

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    Re: givins hatch

    While Givins are among the best for fighting pure, I heard that they are not that good for crossing like McLeans, Leipers or Harold Browns.

    Is there any truth to this?

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    givens spangle hatch broodcock with bulöik apatot hens.
    what i like about this type of hatch is breaking ability and good body conformation----broad back.
    they can break high and all feet-----either air or ground fight.
    they shoot straight to the opponent and hammer all the way down.

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    Re: givins hatch

    express,

    You confirmed the first part, but you didn't answer the second part.

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    Wink Re: givins hatch

    new2game,

    i say like all crosses we really dont know how they will turn out until we try it. With families you have good ones and bad ones. though there are many crosses that are proven, who is to say my givens kelso is exactly your givens kelso so therefor yours should be as good or bad as how mines came out. Starting out with the good stock and trying your crosses is the best way to gauge which ones are good or bad. never had any givens hatch though so what do i know. =)

    jan

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    i can not confirm yet personally
    if they cross well like mclean,leiper,blueface
    with other bloodlines
    but they givens should------
    because they are basically mclean----from late harold brown
    or heavy in mclean side
    just bred by col. on spangle side
    from what i understand

    the confirmation will be
    on stag derby on october 2007
    as most of our fighters
    are givens hatch X bulik apatot cross
    i`ll keep you updated starting june 2007
    when stags begin to show
    what they are made of
    if they inherit the aggressiveness
    and hitting power
    coming from givens hatch.

    what we are expecting more
    are the bulik pullets (daughters) that
    have the body conformation
    of our givens hatch broodcock-----broad back with powerful keelbone
    this is the main aim/objective of this crossbreeding-----for us.
    to produce and perpetuate a bulik line
    that fight and hit like a true givens hatch
    Last edited by expressdelivery; February 4th, 2007 at 04:49 PM.

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    Re: givins hatch

    nice goal sir

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    my givens hatch broodcock
    i got him from a breeder/friend from georgia
    he looks medium station in the picture
    because of his broadback
    but he is a big rooster-----around 2.3 kg
    Last edited by expressdelivery; February 4th, 2007 at 10:04 PM.

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    Re: givins hatch

    johnny jumper used to cross this with his mcleans and did very well...james campbell
    are crossing this to his frank steel brownreds and did good aswell...there are so many people i know that are using givins that are succesful and some that are not...try them
    you may like it...but the best of all are the given hatches...

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    Re: givins hatch

    Thanks, everyone.

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    Re: givins hatch

    I like the col.given hatch it gives me the W...

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    Re: givins hatch

    Ricky Smith of R & A Farm breeds his Colonels with Brownreds, roundheads and Kelsos.

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    Col. Givens Hatch

    I'm always wondering if there is a black genes in the dark red Col. Givens hatch infused by the late col. himself. The more I watch them closely, the more I am convinced that there is indeed some black in them. With their characteristic black eyelids or dark ring around their eyes, which is an apparent dark fowl trait and some even with darker eyes. Their agility and fighting style is more comparable to black fowls than to the typical hatch. They break higher and more faster and are not close fighter like most hatches.

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    yes, that is suppose to be their original make up long ago. What I mean here is if he added some more dark genes when he started breeding them.

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    Smile Re: Col. Givens Hatch

    Quote Originally Posted by nem76
    gl hatch fowl are combo of whitehackle and brown red.

    APRUB COCKMATE NEM76.

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    Re: Col. Givens Hatch

    we have not had too much luck
    with our gerard deecox spangle hatch cross
    they shuffle hard and too fast
    but the cutting is not right
    make too many shuffles but the half are just wasted motions
    unlike our mclean-leiper hatch
    they only need few buckles
    to shipwreck an opponent

    we put on the standby
    the said gerard hatch broodcock
    and still thinking where to breed him
    i think the too fast stroking motions of the feeet
    make them not drive the knife deep enough
    maybe breeding him to a single stroking accurate cutter
    family of hen...........will do the cure
    maybe...............

    any suggestion out there?

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    Re: Col. Givens Hatch

    Hi express,
    Have you tried crossing your hatch to good roundhead blood? Just a thought.
    [3rd]

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    Re: Col. Givens Hatch

    Quote Originally Posted by [3rd]
    Hi express,
    Have you tried crossing your hatch to good roundhead blood? Just a thought.
    [3rd]
    thanks for the tip
    i am thinking of getting dan gray roundhead hen from g. escalona ...mapalad gamefarm
    but i am afraid it will end up again producing a very fast multiple shuffling fowl
    that pull away too early their feet in shuffling..........instead of driving the blade deep enough

    too fast in shuffling.........takes away cutting

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    Re: Col. Givens Hatch

    Quote Originally Posted by expressdelivery
    we have not had too much luck
    with our gerard deecox spangle hatch cross
    they shuffle hard and too fast
    but the cutting is not right
    make too many shuffles but the half are just wasted motions
    unlike our mclean-leiper hatch
    they only need few buckles
    to shipwreck an opponent

    we put on the standby
    the said gerard hatch broodcock
    and still thinking where to breed him
    i think the too fast stroking motions of the feeet
    make them not drive the knife deep enough
    maybe breeding him to a single stroking accurate cutter
    family of hen...........will do the cure
    maybe...............

    any suggestion out there?
    Try lemon or claret or cross it to tonio's spangles.
    Last edited by ubb6793; November 28th, 2007 at 07:35 PM.

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    Re: Col. Givens Hatch

    I heard a known breeder in Bacolod is using Col Givens Hatch as his base blood for his formidable sweaters... he had his share of winnings in major stag derbies using this crosses.

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    Re: Col. Givens Hatch

    Sir Boy Diaz is always talking about his Marion Rose hatches...some inside info said that he has good Col. Givens Hatch fowls...any info on this guys?.....inputs on this will be highly appreciated....Thanks

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    pre express...

    try to cross him to a straight cutter families that fully extend their legs to hit. Some fast footed fowls don't fully extend their legs (kongkong) and tends to cut short and just hit the air like a shadow boxer with a whish-whosh sound instead of a solid thud sound. And during close fighting, they can not lift their knife all the way up because of not enough clearance and most of the time will hit with the back of their blades. Some of them will also hit with their hock joints in close fighting.

    If you can linebreed to him, keep her pullets and find a broodcock that delivers single blows with fully extended legs for them. Most of the time you can find this in bostons roundheads. Or any strain that can kill with a deep cutting single blow in the first few buckles.

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    Re: Col. Givens Hatch

    Quote Originally Posted by alex-g
    I'm always wondering if there is a black genes in the dark red Col. Givens hatch infused by the late col. himself. The more I watch them closely, the more I am convinced that there is indeed some black in them. With their characteristic black eyelids or dark ring around their eyes, which is an apparent dark fowl trait and some even with darker eyes. Their agility and fighting style is more comparable to black fowls than to the typical hatch. They break higher and more faster and are not close fighter like most hatches.

    i agree with you alex...the black ring around their eyes are prominently givens and the deeper the blood the larger they become...they are the blueprints of ol' irish grimes, irish
    brounreds, and irish blacks...

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    Re: Col. Givens Hatch

    ColGivens are rare hatches that can be fought pure in all weapons!... Their no 1 trait is that they are smart family of Hatches!... Aside from their smartness, they have this rare thick plummage that is helpful as a shield!... They have also this trait of which were all looking in one family, the strong resistant to any diseases!...

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    Re: Col. Givens Hatch

    manny berbano the recently crowned bakbakan king said to me once..."everything i have are givens"

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    Re: Col. Givens Hatch

    Now we all know that this bloodline "ColGivens" are good in the LK!... Im always very high on this particular strain ever since!... Their popularity & stocks will surely rise from now on!...

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