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    where to find the good ones, in US and Phils. How are they compared to black mcraes in gameness, fighting style and athletism? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by alex-g
    where to find the good ones, in US and Phils. How are they compared to black mcraes in gameness, fighting style and athletism? Thanks
    PM sir lee (kogmohon) I think he mentioned in one thread here that he has some... good luck...

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    Andrew bought all this guy's stock who supposedly knew Jack Wactor Jr. The NRH are not similar in many ways to the Black Mcrae. The NRH are gamer, smarter, faster and way better cutters than the McRaes. We don't have the McRaes any more on our yards. Just my fair observation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferdi
    Andrew bought all this guy's stock who supposedly knew Jack Wactor Jr. The NRH are not similar in many ways to the Black Mcrae. The NRH are gamer, smarter, faster and way better cutters than the McRaes. We don't have the McRaes any more on our yards. Just my fair observation.

    i agree.

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    Where to find this Nigger Roundhead? thanks!

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    DSVBJ IMPORTED NIGGER ROUNDHEAD BROODCOCK FROM CLINIS HALL (SIMPSONBRANCH FARM)

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshdel2005
    DSVBJ IMPORTED NIGGER ROUNDHEAD BROODCOCK FROM CLINIS HALL (SIMPSONBRANCH FARM)
    how do they figth? Thanks/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferdi
    Andrew bought all this guy's stock who supposedly knew Jack Wactor Jr. The NRH are not similar in many ways to the Black Mcrae. The NRH are gamer, smarter, faster and way better cutters than the McRaes. We don't have the McRaes any more on our yards. Just my fair observation.
    Thanks, buddy. Got some pictures? Saw some pics in Simpson Branch web site. They have good station and are athletic. But they look nervous, maybe just windy when photos were taken.

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    History of Nigger Roundheads



    The original Sheldon Roundheads that Sam Wactor started with must have been heavy with oriental and or Asil blood as some of my Nigger Roundheads show the Asil look. The feather color of the Nigger Roundheads now are Black, Black Red, and Dark Red, the eye color is black or red, leg color has been dark but with the Sheldon Roundhead blood in them I am sure one day I will get some lighter legs out of them. But, when Sam Wactor first started breeding his Nigger Roundheads he got some BLUE feathered ones but sent them to another yard away from his main farm. And over the years he bred out the BLUE colors. However, in doing research on many breeds of fowl you will find that many had a blue in them some where. I obtained my Nigger Roundheads from Jack Wactor SR. The son of Sam Wactor, in the last few years Jack Wactor's son Jack Wactor Jr. sold some of his fowl in the Gamecock. I talked to Jack Wactor Sr. on the phone a few weeks ago and he said that he had given all the fowl to his handler. However, Jack Wactor SR. told me that he had sent me the best fowl he had and that the handler in fact did not have some of the Blood lines that he had sent me due to a problem with varmints and dogs. I will continue to raise and test the Nigger Roundheads as they cross very well with my other fowl. The following history was written by JACK WACTOR SR. and sent to me so I could share it with anyone who was interested. I hope you enjoy the history of the Nigger Roundheads as much as I did. "My father, Sam Wactor got started in the game chicken life at the tender age of 8 years old. Burnell Shelton had country walks near my father's farm and he began using him to help catch his chickens. Shelton gave him a yard of chickens that same year which he bred and kept pure for years. As much as he liked his Sheldon Roundheads he still was not dominating at the pits. He thought if he found a sure enough outstanding cock he would breed him over some of his roundhead hens. Charlie Knapp a New Orleans banker, close friend and supporters of Sam's told him if he ever saw the rooster he wanted he would buy it for him. In January 1921, while at a main in New Orleans, LA, a man named Grimme, who was a shoe cobbler from Yazoo City, MS, fought an absolutely awesome rooster. The rooster was fought twice that day and won both fights quickly. Sam knew he found what he had been searching for and as agreed Knapp bought the rooster and paid $100. The rooster was a dark brown-red with a dark face, eyes and legs. Sam bred the cock over 9 Sheldon Roundhead hens (some yellow legs and some white) and all the biddies came dark. He only bred the Grimme cock for one season because he was killed by his offspring and he never bred back to the Roundhead side. Out of this breeding he raised an outstanding rooster he called Trotter. Trotter proved to be such an exceptional rooster he continued to breed him over his daughters and then granddaughters and so on for twelve straight years and he always bred to the black side. No out-crossing was ever attempted. Fresh blood was added within the family using the dominant stag over the yard and Trotter in the brood pens. So the Nigger Roundheads are actually half Sheldon Roundhead and half Grimmie. They were originally called Black Trotters, Trotter Roundheads and Nigger Trotters. Eventually they picked up the name Nigger Roundheads and this name stuck with them over the years. My belief is the name Black Travelers is just a deviation of the Black Trotters. The Nigger Roundheads of Sam Wactor have been kept pure and have maintained their absolute gameness, body structure and feathers. No infusing of out side blood to date." {This is a direct quote from the letter sent to me by Jack Wactor (Sam Wactor's son)}. Jack L. Wactor also stated on the phone that Sam Wactor did in fact sell many of the "Nigger Roundheads" to William McRae and that they were sent to the Islands. In fact he sold William McRae a whole yard of Nigger Roundheads. In picture's that have been traded between Jack and I, I am of the belief that the Black McRae's are of mostly "Nigger Roundhead" blood with other strains of fowl being added to the Nigger Roundheads from time to time by William McRae. But that the Nigger Roundheads are the dominate strain of fowl used in the make up of the Black McRae's.
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    ABOUT 6 YEARS OR SO AGO i BOUGHT A TRIO OF BLACKS FROM A GUY NAME RICK ALBRIGHT OF BLACK AND BLUE GAMEFARM IN UTAH,MILFORD ,UTAAH IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN? THIS TRIO CONSISTED OF 2 PURE MCRAES (HEN & COCK) AND 1 PURE NIGGER HEN. I STILL HAVE THE NIGGER HEN BUT MY MCRAES PASSED ON BUT HOWEVER THEIR OFFSPRING OF ALL 3 STILL LIVE STRONG HERE. MY FRIENDS AS WELL AS I DO GOOD WITH THEM AS FAR AS USING THE BLOOD TO CROSS ONTO ASIL,HATCH AND EVEN OTHER MCRAE BLOOD AND IT HELPS THE CROSSES OUT. MY BIRDS ARE NOT HIGH BREAKING JUST HARD HITTING DEAAAADDDDD GAME ,CUTTERS THAT HAVE DESCENT BOTTOM BUT CROSS WELL WITH WHATEVER BRED TO. RICK HAD SOME GOOD BLOOD BUT FROM WHAT I HEARD IN THE PAST WENT THROUGH A DIVORCE AND GAVE UP.HOWEVER A GUY NAME EDWIN KUBOJIRI IN HILO,HAWAII HAD THE WACTORS PURE.FOR HE WAS AN AGENT FOR RICK WHEN RICK SHIPPED TO GUAM.EDWIN USED TO FREQUENT GAMEFOWL.COM ALOT I HAVEN'T SPOKE WITH HIM FOR AWHILE. AS FAR AS ME I HAVE NONE FOR SALE AT THIS TIME.DEAN

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    Here you go pare:


    This is what Andrew sent me. They are very confident birds. I also need to take pics of the hen and pullet - one of these days.

    Quote Originally Posted by alex-g
    Thanks, buddy. Got some pictures? Saw some pics in Simpson Branch web site. They have good station and are athletic. But they look nervous, maybe just windy when photos were taken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferdi
    Here you go pare:


    This is what Andrew sent me. They are very confident birds. I also need to take pics of the hen and pullet - one of these days.
    That's a very fine looking cock sir Ferdi...

    I remeber having one exactly like that from a tray of eggs brought by my grandfather from the US in the late 90's. The eggs were marked Black McRae's, so the McRae's "DO" have Nigger RH blood in them do they?

    God I wish I was the one taking care of the chickens then, all I did back then was feed and water them... Maybe we still could have had those fowls til now...

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    Re: wactor nigger roundheads

    Quote Originally Posted by alex-g
    where to find the good ones, in US and Phils. How are they compared to black mcraes in gameness, fighting style and athletism? Thanks
    I dont have the good ones but I have them.......Cant tell you how they compare to the Black Mcraes cause I've never had them (had the red variety though) Here is a couple..






    I didnt breed them this year and probably wont breed them anymore as I have too many blood.

    Wildfoot

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