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    scythe_g
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    Smile Goldfish, Arowana & Flowerhorn Hobbyist (Cockfighting Afficionados)

    All cockfighting afficionados share your idea or experience in Ornamental fish such as Goldfish, Arowana & Flowerhorn!!!



















    A BREEDER is just like a good CHEF
    when he's preparing a GOOD meal.
    He picks the very BEST ingredients.
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    A BREEDER is just like a good
    CHEF when he's preparing a
    GOOD meal. He picks the very BEST ingredients.
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    GOLDFISH HISTORY


    Goldfish originated in China in the Sung Era, approximately 1000 A.D. The goldfish originated as a natural mutation of the Crucian Carp (Carassius Carassius), which was originally a drab olive color. The orange-red color is the result of a natural mutation, which was selectively bred-for over the years.

    Goldfish breeding has taken place in China for over 1,000 years. Goldfish were exported to Japan and Korea sometime around 1500 A.D., and to Europe in the 1600s. Goldfish were exported to the Unites States in 1876, and were shown in the World's Fair in Chicago in 1893.

    Dr Matsui, in the Goldfish Guide, posits that the Crucian Carp mutated into the common goldfish, Carassius Auratus (Hibuna in Japanese), and through a process of natural mutation, the Hibuna mutated into several goldfish prototypes, including the Wakin (double tailed goldfish), Ryukin, Demekin, Maruko (prototype of the Lionhead), and Oranda. Later cross-breeding developed further varieties, including the Ranchu, Celestial, Bubbleye, Comet, Shubunkin and Pearlscale.

    It appears that early mutations were along body types, and special features, and that later selective breeding fixed both the body type and general coloration (red, orange, white, calico, etc.) in goldfish.

    Goldfish have always been associated with art and poetry. On the following pages are poems dealing with ponds, nature, and other eastern themes.










    A BREEDER is just like a good CHEF when he's preparing a GOOD meal.
    He picks the very BEST ingredients.

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    The history of the Flowerhorn cichlid
    The Flowerhorn chichlid is a result of hybridisation between different South American chichlids. The Flowerhorn was developed in Malaysia during the second half of the 1990s, and exactly which South American cichlids that was used and in which combinations is still a secret. This secrecy has of caused a lot of speculation and a number of more or less reasonable theories have been put forth. One of the more far-fetched theories suggests that the Flowerhorn cichlid was artificially created in a Malaysian genetics laboratory by combining genes from a Goldfish with genes from the Trimac cichlid (Amhilophous Trimaculatus). A more reasonable suggestion is that the Flowerhorn cichlid is the result of crossing many different types of South American cichlids with each other, and that different forms of Flowerhorn cichlids can steam from different South American cichlids. The most plausible ancestry is crossings between the Trimac cichlid and other South American cichlids such as Midas cichlid (Amphilophus citrinellum), Red Devil cichlid (Amphilophus labiatum) and Redheaded cichlid (Vieja synspila).

    The look of the Flowerhorn cichlids available in fish stores today is however not just the result of selective breeding. You can affect the appearance of a Flowerhorn cichlid by adjusting environmental factors such as the water chemistry in the aquarium. The food you feed your Flowerhorn cichlid can also change its look. The single most important factor behind the look of the fish is however the genetic makeup formed by selective breeding.

    The Flowerhorn has been criticised as an unnatural and dangerous hybrid, produced by money-hungry breeders just to make money. Others have been impressed by the hard work that is evidently behind the creation of the Flowerhorn Cichlid. A lot of the South American cichlids mentioned above will occasionally interbreed in the wild as well, but there is no doubt that the Flowerhorn cichlid has been deliberately produced by breeders. The Flowerhorn cichlids are not the result of random cross breeding. Some people view the Flowerhorn as a purely man-made creation while others compare the hybrid to all the other animal variants that have been refined by humans during centuries of selective breeding.

    What to think about when buying a Flowerhorn cichlid
    When you look for a suitable Flowerhorn cichlid to buy, you should consider the same facts as you do with any type of cichlid. Make sure that the fish store is well kept and that all the fish look as if they are well cared for. Also check the specific individual that you are interested in. The Flowerhorn cichlid should look healthy and happy. Do not buy a Flowerhorn that seems to be stressed in the aquarium. One good test is to see whether the Flowerhorn eats or not, since poor appetite is a very bad sign in a Flowerhorn cichlid. A Flowerhorn that won’t accept food when offered is probably ill or extremely stressed. When you bring your new Flowerhorn cichlid home, remember to give it plenty of time to adapt before you release it into its new environment.

    One large question when it comes to buying a Flowerhorn cichlid is if you want to buy a young Flowerhorn or a mature one. The young Flowerhorn cichlids are much cheaper than the mature ones, since it is impossible to tell which colour pattern a young Flowerhorn cichlid will display when it gets older. If you want to keep your Flowerhorn cichlid from the beginning and watch it develop, it will require a much smaller investment. On the other hand, if you buy an adult Flowerhorn cichlid you know what you get. A lot of people believe that Flowerhorn cichlids with certain colour patterns provide great Feng Shui to the house where they are kept. If you want to own a Flowerhorn cichlid with a very special pattern for this purpose, you need to buy an adult one. If you are on a restricted budget you can of course gamble and buy several young specimens, hoping that at least one of them turn out to be a premium specimen with the right colour pattern.

    Adult Flowerhorn cichlids with very desirable patterns are extremely costly. High quality Flowerhorn cichlids with markings similar to Chinese letters have been sold for several hundred thousand dollars. There has been a large hype concerning the Flowerhorn cichlids ever since they were developed, and Flowerhorn cichlids have been traded like stocks since their value can increase as the develop. Today the hype seems to have cooled down a bit and a lot of people have lost considerable amounts of money during this process. Premium Flowerhorn cichlids with a well developed hump and desirable markings are however still very expensive.

    How to care for a Flowerhorn cichlid
    The Flowerhorn cichlid is considered quite easy to take care of and do not require a lot of pampering from its keeper. The first thing you need to do is of course to set up an aquarium suitable for a Flowerhorn cichlid. Your Flowerhorn will require a large aquarium to do well, since this fish grows quite big and have an aggressive temperament. If you use plants to decorate the aquarium, they might be destroyed by the Flowerhorn cichlid, and plants are not necessary in an aquarium set up for a Flowerhorn cichlid. You should however decorate the aquarium in a way that creates natural territorial borders, since the Flowerhorn cichlid is a territorial and aggressive fish. You can of course keep the Flowerhorn cichlid alone, but if you want to have more than one fish in the aquarium other big aggressive cichlids from South America is the best choice. The Flowerhorn cichlid is a tough fish and can tolerate most water conditions, but it will do best in an aquarium where the pH is neutral or slightly basic. A water temperature around 28º C is recommended.

    The Flowerhorn cichlid is a happy eater and you will not have a hard time trying to make it accept food. Its metabolism and feeding habits are similar to that of the other South American cichlids, and your Flowerhorn cichlid will need a lot of energy and nutrients to stay healthy and develop in a good way. It is actually quite hard to over-feed a Flowerhorn cichlid. Your Flowerhorn cichlid will accept most types of food, and pellets are a good base. This base should be supplemented with plenty of worms, crabs, shrimp, or similar types of meaty foods. Feeding two or tree times a day is optimal.

    Since the Flowerhorn cichlid eats a lot, it will also produce a lot of waste products which pollutes the water. Frequent water changes must therefore be performed. Changing 20 percent of the water twice a week is a good rule of thumb. If you can only make one change a week, you should change around 25 percent of the water. You can lower the risk of poor water quality by avoiding food types known to pollute the water a lot.

    Luck and Feng Shui
    According to an Asian belief system called Feng Shui, good luck and harmony can be caused by Flowerhorn cichlids if they display the right colour markings. The Flowerhorn is not the only fish believed to be capable of this, and fish species such as the Arowana have been kept by Asians for a long time to ensure harmony and happiness. The Arowana is believed to bring luck since it resembles dragons from Chinese mythology. Compared to the dragons in European mythology, the Chinese dragon is associated with much more positive abilities. The Flowerhorn cichlid does not resemble a dragon; instead its hump makes it look somewhat like the Chinese God of Longevity. If the hump of your Flowerhorn cichlid grows large, so will your luck. The good luck brought by Flowerhorn cichlids is believed to affect all areas of life.

    The markings of the Flowerhorn cichlid are also very important from a Feng Shui point of view. If the marking resemble a desirable Chinese letter, the Flowerhorn cichlid becomes very valuable. A woman who won 1 million dollars at the lottery claimed that she had played on the number displayed on her Flowerhorn cichlid, and circulating stories like this will of course increase the Flowerhorn hype. Some Flowerhorn cichlids display the Chinese sign for “luck” on their bodies, and these individuals are of course extremely rare and extremely expensive.

    Breeding Flowerhorn cichlids
    Making your Flowerhorn cichlids breed in the aquarium requires basically the same type of preparations and care that you would give Trimac cichlids or other similar South American cichlids. Keep the potential parents in a very large aquarium, and try to keep them from killing each other. Flowerhorn parents guard the eggs as well as the fry, and the fry is fairly easy to take care off. Even if you start out with prime specimens as parents, the offspring will often turn out to be a disappointment if it is certain colour patterns etcetera that you are looking for. You need to know quite a lot about the different strains and lines to successfully breed Flowerhorn cichlids. There is of course always the chance of getting lucky and producing great specimens even without this knowledge.

    Flowerhorn critics
    The Flowerhorn cichlid has been subjected to a lot of criticism. Some people have disliked the fact that it is an artificially created hybrid, while others have criticized not the fish per se, but the huge financial hype that was created around it. Critics claim that the Flowerhorn cichlid was created only to make money from, and that the hype is a result of excellent PR. This might very well be true, but a lot of aquarists love the Flowerhorn cichlid regardless of why it was created. A true fact is that the Flowerhorn cichlids were treated more like stocks than animals during the peak of the hype, and that people lost considerable amounts of money when the Flowerhorn bubble burst and the market cooled down.

    Many people feel that man should avoid creating new hybrids. Some critics have religious motives behind their conviction, and argue that animals should be created by God, not by humans. Others point to possible environmental problems that could occur if the natural fauna was contaminated and disturbed by unnatural hybrids.

    Concerned voices have also claimed that the presence of fish hybrids make it close to impossible to identify pure breed specimens in fish stores, since hybrids are frequently mislabelled and sold under the wrong name. Those in favour of the Flowerhorn cichlid have responded that this is not a problem caused by the Flowerhorn or any other hybrid, this is a problem caused by irresponsible store keepers.

    As mentioned above, hybrids like the Flowerhorn might cause severe ecological problems if they are released into the wild. Animals released into environments that are not used to their presence can often cause a lot of problems, regardless of whether they are hybrids or just animals from some other part of the world. We have already seen the effects of rabbits in Australia, Water hyacinth in Africa etcetera. Regardless of wish type of fish you keep, hybrid or not, you should never ever release it into the wild!







    A BREEDER
    is just like a good CHEF
    when he's preparing a GOOD meal.
    He picks the very BEST ingredients.

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    up up up ....Goldfish, Arowana and Flowerhorn Hobbyist post here.












    A BREEDER is just like a good CHEF when he's preparing a GOOD meal.
    He picks the very BEST ingredients.

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    Talking Re: Goldfish, Arowana & Flowerhorn Hobbyist (Cockfighting Afficionados)

    up up up . ...Goldfish, Arowana and Flowerhorn Hobbyist post here.










    A BREEDER is just like a good CHEF
    when he's preparing a GOOD meal.
    He picks the very BEST ingredients.

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    Re: Goldfish, Arowana & Flowerhorn Hobbyist (Cockfighting Afficionados)

    gusto ko mag alaga ng arowana (MALAYSIAN GOLD) sabi ng pet shop with papers daw, san ba gamit yung papers????

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    Quote Originally Posted by danding09
    gusto ko mag alaga ng arowana (MALAYSIAN GOLD) sabi ng pet shop with papers daw, san ba gamit yung papers????



    ganun ba pre kailangan mo talaga ng papers lalong lalo na kung imported kasi mahirap na dito sa atin ngaun eh sobrang strict na. Atsaka yung papers din pre may kasama din yan na certificate ng Isdang Arowana mo. Ako nga eh bumili ako ng arowana dyan lang sa cartimar 4 na australian green lahat sila may papers at may kanya kanyan certficate.








    A BREEDER is just like a good CHEF
    when he's preparing a GOOD meal.
    He picks the very BEST ingredients.

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    Smile Re: Goldfish, Arowana & Flowerhorn Hobbyist (Cockfighting Afficionados)

    up ko muna para makita ng mga kaibigan natin

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    Talking Re: Goldfish, Arowana & Flowerhorn Hobbyist (Cockfighting Afficionados)

    up ulit kasi nasa likod na po...

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    up ulit kasi nasa likod na po

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