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    Un-united Association Of Bulacan Gamefowl Breeders

    UN-UNITED ASSOCIATION of BULACAN GAMEFOWL BREEDERS

    Every rooster lover dreams that one day, he will be standing inside Araneta's Prestigious Octagon with a huge tropy and holding his entry name, together with his peers.

    Of course, aside from the World Slasher Cup which caters for the BIG GUNS of this noble sport of cockfighting, an ordinary "magmamanok" would aspire to covet "BAKBAKAN"--a derby for the masses.

    While sabungeros all over the Philippines and in all walks of life, are now preparing their baby stags for the prestigious BAKBAKAN DERBY, the BULACAN COCKERS' dream of defending the BAKBAKAN STAG DERBY becomes impossible if not herculean.

    DIVISION BETWEEN THE BULAKENYOS

    It is surprising to see that UNITED BULACAN GAMEFOWL BREEDERS ASSOCIATION (UBGBA) has been divided, and a new association was formed which is ASSOCIATION OF GAMEFOWL BREEDERS OF BULACAN.

    These two associations had differences which precluded the NFGB to recognize a legitimate association for the Bulakenyos.

    THE PRESIDENT'S REPORT

    "...As we opened the doors to the new associate members of our federation, it is with regrets that we have decided to decline the application of United Bulacan Gamefowl Breeders Association until such time that they can prove to the NFGB that they can settle whatever issues they have in their organization. Let me reiterate that we are all in this for the love of the sport, and leading an organization is indeed a sacrifice and a commitment to serve. What happened in Bulacan is an eye opener for our organization and "WE WILL NEVER ALLOW THE GOOD NAME OF THE FEDERATION TO BE INVOLVED IN LOCAL ISSUES which ONLY MEMBERS themselves can solve.

    With this decision, we also would like to announce that only qualified breeders from BULACAN who have passed our criteria and those who have joined our last year's BAKBAKAN derby will be banded this time, under the auspices of the NFGB.

    I would like to assure our fellow breeders from BULACAN that even if your association's application is declined we are committed to band your cockerels and to show fairness to those who are in good standing with our federation. Our NFGB will assist you in the banding of your stags until such time that you have proven to us that YOU CAN REGROUP and REDEEM yourselves from this unfortunate event in your organization. As I've said countless of times this federation values discipline and responsibility and I know Bulacan with its potential can put this back together.

    Lastly, let me reiterate that loyalty to our federation is a must and without any condition. I always believe that we have run this federation to the best of our ability with transparency, accountability and most of all integrity...."--Ricardo "Ricoy" Palmares, Jr, NFGB President, P I T G A M E S Issue #19, p. 4

    OPEN FORUM

    Many Breeders from Bulacan are speculating about the issues which the UBGBA encountered, and as a result, another organization (AGBB) was formed.

    Many ordinary cockfighting afficionados from Bulacan, would want to be enlightened about what happened to the association. It is admitted, that sabong is a sport of the maginoos. How come, instead of unity amongst members, what resulted was division?

    These are some questions that a Bulacan Breeder would ask?

    1) WHAT WAS THE ISSUE or ISSUES WHICH PREVENTED NFGB FROM RECOGNIZING UBGBA?

    2) FOR BOTH ORGANIZATIONS, WHAT BENEFIT WILL MEMBERS GET WHEN THEY JOIN YOUR ORGANIZATION, CONSIDERING THAT THERE WILL BE NO BAKBAKAN FOR BULACAN ASSOCIATIONS AFTER ALL?

    3) DO YOU THINK DERBIES OF EITHER ASSOCIATION ARE WORTH JOINING? WHAT FOR WHEN THERE ARE OTHER DERBIES WHICH THEY CAN JOIN, WHICH WILL NOT REQUIRE A MEMBERSHIP FEE?

    4) IS THERE NO OTHER WAY TO FIX THE PROBLEM? WHY CANNOT BULAKENYOS UNITE, ELECT EFFICIENT AND QUALIFIED BOARD MEMBERS AND CREATE AN EFFECTIVE BY-LAWS?


    BULACAN GAMEFOWL BREEDERS UNITE

    Until such time that the inter-association disputes have been settled, then we could expect that no prudent Bulacan Gamefowl Fancier would ever join a divided and worthless association.

    It would be prudent to have a UNITED ORGANIZATION of Bulacan. With a united organization, Bulacan Gamefowl Breeders could move mountains--evidenced by GOLDEN TORNADO ********.

    [I]We ask the two presidents of both associations (UBGBA and AGBB) to please settle the differences in the open so that Bulacan Breeders would be able to arbitrate and discuss matters for the development and benefit of a UNITED BULACAN ASSOCIATION.

    Just sharing my thoughts.

    God bless.

    Tres Mentiras

    P.S.

    This thread is an even playing field. You cannot expect UBGBA and AGBB visit each other's thread. This time, let's make it happen.

    BULAKENYOS UNITE!!!

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    LET THE BULAKENYO'S KNOW THAT I SAY " I AGREE" LET THIS THREAD BE THE MEANS TO SETTLE THE ISSUE

    HOPING FOR THE BEST...

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    yes i agree also
    bulacan should only be one
    so lets be united
    to the two organizations
    settle the issues
    so ther will be another golden tornado
    that is coming from bulacan

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    I am hopeful that this will be a mean to settle what ever has been the issue(s). AMEN

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    These are some questions that a Bulacan Breeder would ask?

    1) WHAT WAS THE ISSUE or ISSUES WHICH PREVENTED NFGB FROM RECOGNIZING UBGBA?

    2) FOR BOTH ORGANIZATIONS, WHAT BENEFIT WILL MEMBERS GET WHEN THEY JOIN YOUR ORGANIZATION, CONSIDERING THAT THERE WILL BE NO BAKBAKAN FOR BULACAN ASSOCIATIONS AFTER ALL?

    3) DO YOU THINK DERBIES OF EITHER ASSOCIATION ARE WORTH JOINING? WHAT FOR WHEN THERE ARE OTHER DERBIES WHICH THEY CAN JOIN, WHICH WILL NOT REQUIRE A MEMBERSHIP FEE?

    4) IS THERE NO OTHER WAY TO FIX THE PROBLEM? WHY CANNOT BULAKENYOS UNITE, ELECT EFFICIENT AND QUALIFIED BOARD MEMBERS AND CREATE AN EFFECTIVE BY-LAWS?

    BULACAN GAMEFOWL BREEDERS UNITE

    Until such time that the inter-association disputes have been settled, then we could expect that no prudent Bulacan Gamefowl Fancier would ever join a divided and worthless association.

    It would be prudent to have a UNITED ORGANIZATION of Bulacan. With a united organization, Bulacan Gamefowl Breeders could move mountains--evidenced by GOLDEN TORNADO ********.

    [i]We ask the two presidents of both associations (UBGBA and AGBB) to please settle the differences in the open so that Bulacan Breeders would be able to arbitrate and discuss matters for the development and benefit of a UNITED BULACAN ASSOCIATION.

    Just sharing my thoughts.

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    it seems that both parties are not interested to settle their differences, just wondering why none of them don't share their sentiments. if the two groups can not solve their differences then it is not UNITED or SOLID Bulacan group. I am sure that a lot of people are interested in joining the Bulacan Association but they have few questions that need to be answered.
    Bulakenyo po tayo, maginoo, matapat, masipag, mabait, mapagpasensya at may pang unawa. kalimutan po natin ang nakaraan, ayusin ang di pagkaka-unawaan, tumulong sa samahan at ipakita na tayong mga bulakenyo ay maginoo (tao lang po tayo) nagkakamali paminsan-minsan and let's move on for the better. in joining together we will enjoy sabong more and UNITED masaya yan di ba?
    tao lang po tayo nagkakamali, mag pasensya, lawakan ang pang unawa, let join our forces and be UNITED BULACAN COCKERS/ SABUNGERO/BREEDER basta UNITED hinde DEVIDED.
    Last edited by rowdell kruz; May 14th, 2008 at 09:52 AM.

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    as i talked to Mr. Non (E & E farm) last Sunday, he said that we should settle our problems and proud to say that we are from united BULACAN Gamefowl Breeders.

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    Ayos to!!! Let's "Volt - In"

    Gandang Gabi po sa lahat ng mga taga Bulakenio

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    ayusin na napo ninyo ito sa lalong madaling panahon

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    UBGBA and AGBB are both still silent on the issue.

    Since there are still clouds as to the issues presented by the NFGB President Ricardo Palmares, Jr., it is normal to speculate on the following:

    SPECULATION #1: UBGBA is not properly handling the Association Funds, and therefore, an issue arose.

    Based on the things discussed before AGBB, it seems that this newly formed association are strict about transparency of funds, which gives the presumption that the UBGBA failed to be honest with money matters.

    SPECULATION #2:
    UBGBA is asking for exorbitant fees, such as the P20/wingband; because this is the only association which asks for such amount of wingbanding fee. 100% increase. WHAT FOR???

    AGBB bands for free for the first 50 chicks. in addition, those in excess will be charged for only P10/wingband. Furthermore, other associations like the TAGBA, et al. also asks for P10/wingband only.

    SPECULATION #3: Members may declare how good a President Mr. Tony Ohsan is. However, apparently we see the irony of things. A good leader unites, and never divides a group.

    It is obvious that both associations are raising their own chairs and deceiving themselves how strong their organization is. With so and so members, but still unrecognized by the NFGB, what is the purpose for the organization?

    Breeders breed with an objetcive of winning in the toughest derbies like BAKBAKAN, WSC, etc to be known in all parts of the archipelago. I doubt if this purpose will be reached, if issues were kept and are not disclosed.

    For the benefit of the Bulacan Breeders please straighten the speculations.

    It seems that AGBB's requirements are better.

    I could not help but to speculate.

    Please shed light to these speculations and clarify issues.

    Just stating things for the unity of the Bulacan Breeders.

    God bless.

    Tres Mentiras


    * Calling on the Presidents of both UBGBA and AGBB to please settle the issue/s

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    up...up.....up.......let's get together

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAngers
    up...up.....up.......let's get together
    parang walang gustong sumagot sa mga tinatanong!!walang interasadong harapin ang pagkakaisa...iniiwasan...pinababayaan...binabalewa la...o talagang ang mga bulakenyo hindi pwedeng magkaisa?

    3 years ago... pa putok ang pagtatayo ng grupo para sa bakbakan (nfgba) nagtanong ako bakit sa dinami dami ng grupo na nag uusbungan...sa bulakan wala man lang magtayo kahit backyard? halos lahat ng farm sa laguna.batangas ay taga BULACAN ===marami rin namang farm dito sa lalawigan natin....


    NGAYON MAY NAKAPAG ORGANISA,NAGSIMULA,NAGPASIMUNO! PERO BAKIT MAY HINDI NATUWA,NAGUSTUHAN ANG PAMAMALAKAD,NAGTAMPO......

    NAGKAROON NG BAGONG GRUPO! NAG LABASAN ANG MGA AKUSASYON? TANONG?SUHUESTYON?KURO KURO?

    SABI NILA PAG ANG PUNO MABUNGA...BINABATO BUNGA PARA MATIKMAN KUNG MATAMIS O MAASIM...


    MAY MGA TANONG NA DI MALINAW SA ATIN NA DAPAT MASAGOT!~!!! KASO PARANG TENGANG KAWALI NA BINABALEWLA NG MGA NAMUMUNO/TAONG PINATUTUKOY

    SUMAGOT NA KAYO PARA UMABOT NA SA 200 GRUPO AT NG MAGKASASAMA NA TAYO NG MALAMAN KUNG SA PULA O PUTI

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    LIWANAGIN NATIN

    Magandang araw sa lahat ng mga Bulakenyo.

    Una sa lahat, ako po ay hindi miyembro ng AGBB. Marahil naisip ng mga taga-UBGBA na ako ay pakawala ng kabilang grupo--kayo po ay nagkakamali. Ang tanging hangarin ko po lamang ay ang IKABUBUO ng isang matatag at nagkaka-isang Bulacan Gamefowl Breeders Association.

    Sa katunayan, ako po ay nangahas sumali sa UBGBA, ngunit ang aking pagsali ay naudlot sa paglabas ng balitang merong alitan ang mga namumuno sa grupo.

    Ngayong malinaw na ang aking hangarin, tila baga nagmumukhang guilty o may sala ang pangulo ng UBGBA. Bakit ba nagbibingi-bingihan lamang ang pangulo? Ang alam lamang gawin ay mamulitika, tapos pag may gusot, ay tila baga umiiwas: "Magandang umaga po sa lahat ng UBGBA...Maraming salamat...."

    SINONG MATINO ANG SASALI SA GANITONG ASOSASYON?

    Ngunit, gayun din naman ang AGBB na nagkikibit-balikat sa nangyari.

    Di tuloy malaman ng mga Bulakenyo kung kanino tayo sasali. Para magkarron lamang ng katuwaan at makamit ang pangarap ng bawat isa na masubukan ang mga manok sa mga pinagpipitaganang mga laban tulad ng BAKBAKAN.

    MAG-HINTAY NALANG TAYO NG ISANG ASSOSASYON NA WALANG ALITAN AT MAAYOS ANG PAMUMUNO. ANTAYIN NATIN ANG ISANG GRUPO NA MAY BASBAS NG NFGB.

    Maraming salamat.

    God bless.

    Tres Mentiras

    Sir TONY, ano ho ba ang anumalya na nagaganap o naganap? Pakiliwanag lang po.

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    Ako po ay hindi tiga Bulacan ako po ay tiga Marikina na nag aalaga nang kaunting manok sa Rizal. Ako ay nalulungkot sa nangyayari sa pagkakawatak watak ng grupo ng mga breeder sa Bulacan. Matagal kong pinangarap na magkaroon ng asosasyon sa Rizal dahil sa sarili ko ang lapit namin sa Metro Manila katulad ng Bulacan ngunit walang lehitimo asosasyon para ka makasali sa Bakbakan di naman ako makasapi sa LGBA dati dahil maliit lang ang manukan ko. Ang nagband pa sa akin dati ay kung hindi NGBA ay Pagba naipakiusap ko dahil kaibigan ko si Mayor Juancho Aguirre at Ricoy Palmares. Sinimulan ko itatag ang RGBA Rizal Gamefowl Breeders Asso, sa tulong ni Joey sy. Halos nagkasabay lang ang RGBA at Bulacan group, natandaan ko pa kasabay ko sa eroplano si Jun Jamandores at Tony Ohsan sa flight pa cebu upang tangapin ang Rgba at Bulacan group sa NFGB. Sayang po ang nasimulan natin dapat na pagusapan at ayusin ang mga di pagkakaunawaan sa level natin dahil hindi naman makikialam hanggat maari ang NFGB sa mga internal na problema ng asosasyon. Kami man sa RGBA ay may mga ganyan problema kasama sa mga birth pains iyan ang ginagawa namin sa mga ganyan pagkakataon ay bumubuo kami ng committee galing sa mga respetado na kasapi at inihahayag ang mga munti di pagkakaunawaan at doon kami nagsisimula. Ang sa akin ay suhestiyon lamang. Alam ko na tanging hangad ng mga namumuno ay maiayos ang BUlacan ilagay sa isang tabi ang pride at harapin ang mga di pagkakaunawaan objectively at suportahan ang anuman mapagkakasunduan. Kaya ng Rizal kaya ng Bulacan.

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    BULACAN ASSOCIATION
    in my honest opinion lang po ito, kung ang isa sa nabanggit na grupo ay interesado ayusin ang gusot or problema para mabuo ang Bulacan Association sana po ay matagal na sila gumawa ng hakbang para ayusin ito. i'm sure mukhang wala sa plano ayusin ang problema sa kung ano ang kanilang dahilan or kung ano ang nangyari ito po ay bayaan na natin sa kanila, sana po ay magka-ayos din sila kung ano man ang naging problema.

    let move on Bulakenyos.
    bakit hinde gumawa ng bagong organization ang lahat ng taga Bulacan? mahirap po iyan pero kung gusto ninyo mga kababayan wala po siguro imposible, ano sa palagay ninyo? post naman po kayo baka kaya natin pagtulung-tulungan ito para sa lahat ng mga taga BULACAN. kung sakali makabuo tayo ng desisyon gumawa ng isang grupo to represent Bulacan Breeders & Cockers Assn. ano po ba ang dapat gawin ng mga namumuno?
    ano ang gusto ninyo?
    1. election of officers
    2. guidelines ng grupo (bylaws)
    3. goal ng grupo
    4. membership ? fee? sino ang qualified? ano ang magagawa ng grupo para sa members in exchange of membership fee?
    5. derby proceeds pag may palaro ang association. is it for the assn's fund or hahatiin to all members.
    6. derby dito derby doon, sino ang sasali, sino gagastos? kanino manok?
    7. etc. etc. etc marami pa po siguro dagdagan na lang ninyo.

    BOTTOMLINE
    transparency, honest, united, full suport of all members palagay ko kakayanin ng mga taga Bulacan yan.

    SUGGESTIONS lang po ito baka sakali makatulong.

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    Good day mga kasabong!!!

    All officers po ng UBGBA at AGBB, andami n po posts dito regarding sa unity ng bulacan cockers/breeders; i think it's time to make action!!!

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    UBGBA PRESIDENT MR. TONY OHSAN SPEAKS

    "Gandang araw po sa lahat,maraming salamat sa pagdalaw ng mga kaibigan natin sa thead ng UBGBA, ki paring charlie,at sa lahat ng members ng Ubgba at guest.

    Ang mga officers ng ubgba ay gustong maayos ang gusot sa loob ng nasasakupan ng grupong UBGBA, mga tsismis o hearsay na walang basihan ang pinakalat ng iilan na gustong masira ang magandang samahan ng UBGBA..,hangang sa umabot sa dagliang Election upang mawala ang agam-agam ng bawat isa, kong may suporta at tiwala pa ang mga members sa pamunuan ng UBGBA na nagulo ng iilan.,naganap ang araw ng election halos lahat ay dumating..ang majority ng buong members sa araw ng halalan.,medyo nagtagal pa nga ang halalaan, dahil idinaan sa body ang lahat ng RULES na dapat mapagkasuduan,na wala sa By-laws ng election ng UBGBA sa kadahilanang bago at batang Assn. lang., sa kadahilanang biglaang Election ang nangyare, at na approved ng body ang lahat ng rules sa Election sa araw na yon, na napagkasuduan ng lahat,nagkaroon ng secret balloting,lahat ay nag participate at kasama ang nasa kabilang grupo hangang sa bilangan ng balota at nadeklara ang nga nanalo.,may nanalo at may natalo,sa tiwala ng members ako parin ang may pinaka mataas na boto, ang mga natalo ay nag tayo ng bagong assn. sa kadahilanang nadaya daw sila ang pinakalat na tsismis nila,dahil hinde matangap ang pagkatalo sa election. saganang amin at buong grupo ay walang katutohanan. sa kadahilanang, buong members na ang nag decision sa election at sagrado ang balota sa paniniwal namin....ito po ang nangyari at dahilan kong bakit humiwalay ang mahigit komulang sa 10 members ng UBGBA.....saganang akin mas maganda ang manahimik muna sa ngayon, tungkol sa issue yan,upang mapagbiyan daan at mapagtounan ng pansin ang 88 Ubgba members na nangangailangan din ang suporta tulong sa problemang katanungan at hinaharap ng mga palahi o breeding nila sa kasalukoyan........lalo na mga cockerels na nabandingan na ng bakbakan NFGB at local UBGBA na ako rin ang kasama ng working team NFGB. Nag banding dito sa buong Bulacan.....maraming salamat po....Pasinsya na kong hinde ako sumasagot sa hearsay issue na dapat wag paniwalaan at walang basihan...salamat muli." Tony UBGBA.

    Thank you for straightening things out.

    BULAKENYOS UNITE!!!

    God bless.

    Tres Mentiras

    P.S.

    AGBB you might want to be heard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAngers
    as i talked to Mr. Non (E & E farm) last Sunday, he said that we should settle our problems and proud to say that we are from united BULACAN Gamefowl Breeders.
    tnx RAngers........lahat ng mga members ng ubgba ang tulad ni Mr.Non....at tulad ko rin proud to say a member of Ubgba. always...

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    makkiraan po!!!!! taas ko lang noksman$$$$$$$$

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    maki taas na rin po!!!!!!!!

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    [quote=jbelt] tnx RAngers........lahat ng mga members ng ubgba ang tulad ni Mr.Non....at tulad ko rin proud to say a member of Ubgba. always...


    I DIDNTKNOW THAT MR. NON IS A MEMEBER OF UBGBA???!!!!!!!

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    SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT

    1) If NFGB wants ALL the officers of UBGBA to step down, yet still UBGBA remains to continue and would not consider the unified election, because it's members believe that such is not the solution, WOULD YOU THINK NFGB WOULD RECOGNIZE UBGBA?

    2) AGBB claims that its members are discussing matters with Manny Berbano, Publisher of P I T G A M E S and a close confidant of the NFGB President Ricoy Palmares, Jr. for the recognition of AGBB.

    It is a fact that Mr. Berbano is an influential person and is the visionary of P I T G A M E S, BAKBAKAN, NFGB, etc. Assuming, UBGBA stuck with its pride to just let things be, and NFGB would soon recognize AGBB.

    WHAT WILL BE ITS EFFECT WITH THE UBGBA?

    WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE DREAM OF MEMBERS TO JOIN BAKBAKAN?

    Yes, these are hypothetical, but you see, people are smart. Just like all the members on both associations. UBGBA and AGBB may claim that they are a solid association. However, in reality, members of both associations are now anxious on what will be the future of the association?

    Heartrob I believe is a UBGBA Member, but from the sound of his posts, he wants BULAKENYOS to be UNITED.

    QUESTION: HAS ANYONE WHO KNEW ABOUT THE INCIDENT JOINED UBGBA OR AGBB RECENTLY?

    I am not a member of any association, but I planned to; however, I am putting on hold any decision, until such time that the issue or issues be resolved. Of course, there are others who will do what is prudent. It's stupid to invest on something that has no security or assurance.

    Until this issue is settled, and until UBGBA IS still keeping its pride and decided not to resolve the issue, I'm afraid that NOTHING WILL HAPPEN TO US BULAKENYOS.

    Tayo namang mga sabungero, madali lang naman kausap.

    Ayusin na natin 'to.

    Just sharing my thoughts.

    God bless.

    Tres Mentiras

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    I dont think NFGB would accept AGBB or UBGBA at this point, it is clear that they have not been acting as a united provincial association. Just like RBGA, UBGBA is also a guest association para bang probationary pa lang so NFGB has the right kung gawin regular or not. Yung tungkol kay Manny Berbano of p i t g a m e s lobbying na maging guest association din ang AGBB medyo hindi ako maniwala dun alam ni Manny ang sitwasyon ang tanging gusto din noon ay maging unified ang Bulacan as a province. Yan naman ay makukuha lahat sa maayos na usapan ng mga lider medyo iwan muna sa bahay ang pride at magtulong tulong itaguyod ang pagmamanok sa Bulacan ng magkakasama. Kung dumating ang panahon na wala marecognize na association sa Bulacan malamang ay sumailalim sa parang stewardship ang mga miyembro under NFGB. Di naman basta iwanan NFGB ang mga miyembro dahil sa di pagkakasundo ng mga lider. Mga Lider ng AGBB at UBGBA kayang kaya nyo yan konting paraanan at bigayan kaya lang naman tayo nandito ay dahil sa common denominator mahilig tayong mag alaga ng manok panabong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cccforevergold
    I dont think NFGB would accept AGBB or UBGBA at this point, it is clear that they have not been acting as a united provincial association. Just like RBGA, UBGBA is also a guest association para bang probationary pa lang so NFGB has the right kung gawin regular or not. Yung tungkol kay Manny Berbano of p i t g a m e s lobbying na maging guest association din ang AGBB medyo hindi ako maniwala dun alam ni Manny ang sitwasyon ang tanging gusto din noon ay maging unified ang Bulacan as a province. Yan naman ay makukuha lahat sa maayos na usapan ng mga lider medyo iwan muna sa bahay ang pride at magtulong tulong itaguyod ang pagmamanok sa Bulacan ng magkakasama. Kung dumating ang panahon na wala marecognize na association sa Bulacan malamang ay sumailalim sa parang stewardship ang mga miyembro under NFGB. Di naman basta iwanan NFGB ang mga miyembro dahil sa di pagkakasundo ng mga lider. Mga Lider ng AGBB at UBGBA kayang kaya nyo yan konting paraanan at bigayan kaya lang naman tayo nandito ay dahil sa common denominator mahilig tayong mag alaga ng manok panabong.
    Good post SIR CHARLIE.

    It was parak through his uncle (hearsay) who attested that Manny Berbano is sitting with the AGBB.

    But you are right. I know Manny Berbano, he is prudent enough not to shunt on either association especially if there is a dispute. As stated, those were hearsays--it could be false, but it could be true. (pag may usok may siga)

    NFGB would of course take the role of a shepherd to members of feuding associations. Unfortunately, the effect of such misunderstanding would take a toll on the membership of both associations.

    Everyone wants a UNIFIED BULACAN. Let's make things happen.

    Hope an even playing field would help in the arbitration. Unfortunately, it is doubtful that NFGB would adjudicate on the matter since it does not want to meddle with internal matters.

    Let's pray and wait for the unification of the group.

    God bless.

    Tres Mentiras

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    It is without doubt that Manny Berbano is close to the AGBB group but I dont believe he would use his closeness with the NFGB leadership to bring in AGBB as a guest member. To be fair with Manny he has been many times criticized because he was also instrumental for UBGBA to be a guest member of NFGB. It is his nature he wants to help everybody that in times he puts himself in a precarious situation. Nakalulungkot na ang pagtulong ni Manny sa UBGBA na makapasok sa NFGB ay madalas nagiging pangtukso ng grupo sa kanya, pare ikaw tumulong magpasok sa grupo na yan e magugulo pala yan ang normal na biruan. He would just smile pero alam ko deep inside gusto niya bumawi na iayos ang Bulacan group. I told him pare nasa kanila na yan kung gusto talaga nila mag ayos kayang kaya nila. Pag gusto dami paraan pag ayaw dami dahilan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cccforevergold
    It is without doubt that Manny Berbano is close to the AGBB group but I dont believe he would use his closeness with the NFGB leadership to bring in AGBB as a guest member. To be fair with Manny he has been many times criticized because he was also instrumental for UBGBA to be a guest member of NFGB. It is his nature he wants to help everybody that in times he puts himself in a precarious situation. Nakalulungkot na ang pagtulong ni Manny sa UBGBA na makapasok sa NFGB ay madalas nagiging pangtukso ng grupo sa kanya, pare ikaw tumulong magpasok sa grupo na yan e magugulo pala yan ang normal na biruan. He would just smile pero alam ko deep inside gusto niya bumawi na iayos ang Bulacan group. I told him pare nasa kanila na yan kung gusto talaga nila mag ayos kayang kaya nila. Pag gusto dami paraan pag ayaw dami dahilan.
    Amen to that!!!

    'PAG GUSTO, MADAMING PARAAN; 'PAG AYAW, MARAMING DAHILAN.

    Yun din ang sabi nang marami about Mr. Manny Berbano, he is just too kind.

    Sana mabuo na ang Bulacan.

    Para lahat masaya.

    God bless.

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    Gandang Gabi po mga kabayan! PEACE

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    post lng po sa mga bulacan cno po d2 ang may new hire handler/gaffer from quezon province pm me i have something to tell......

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    Quote Originally Posted by tres_mentiras
    UN-UNITED ASSOCIATION of BULACAN GAMEFOWL BREEDERS

    Every rooster lover dreams that one day, he will be standing inside Araneta's Prestigious Octagon with a huge tropy and holding his entry name, together with his peers.

    Of course, aside from the World Slasher Cup which caters for the BIG GUNS of this noble sport of cockfighting, an ordinary "magmamanok" would aspire to covet "BAKBAKAN"--a derby for the masses.

    While sabungeros all over the Philippines and in all walks of life, are now preparing their baby stags for the prestigious BAKBAKAN DERBY, the BULACAN COCKERS' dream of defending the BAKBAKAN STAG DERBY becomes impossible if not herculean.

    DIVISION BETWEEN THE BULAKENYOS

    It is surprising to see that UNITED BULACAN GAMEFOWL BREEDERS ASSOCIATION (UBGBA) has been divided, and a new association was formed which is ASSOCIATION OF GAMEFOWL BREEDERS OF BULACAN.

    These two associations had differences which precluded the NFGB to recognize a legitimate association for the Bulakenyos.

    THE PRESIDENT'S REPORT

    "...As we opened the doors to the new associate members of our federation, it is with regrets that we have decided to decline the application of United Bulacan Gamefowl Breeders Association until such time that they can prove to the NFGB that they can settle whatever issues they have in their organization. Let me reiterate that we are all in this for the love of the sport, and leading an organization is indeed a sacrifice and a commitment to serve. What happened in Bulacan is an eye opener for our organization and "WE WILL NEVER ALLOW THE GOOD NAME OF THE FEDERATION TO BE INVOLVED IN LOCAL ISSUES which ONLY MEMBERS themselves can solve.

    With this decision, we also would like to announce that only qualified breeders from BULACAN who have passed our criteria and those who have joined our last year's BAKBAKAN derby will be banded this time, under the auspices of the NFGB.

    I would like to assure our fellow breeders from BULACAN that even if your association's application is declined we are committed to band your cockerels and to show fairness to those who are in good standing with our federation. Our NFGB will assist you in the banding of your stags until such time that you have proven to us that YOU CAN REGROUP and REDEEM yourselves from this unfortunate event in your organization. As I've said countless of times this federation values discipline and responsibility and I know Bulacan with its potential can put this back together.

    Lastly, let me reiterate that loyalty to our federation is a must and without any condition. I always believe that we have run this federation to the best of our ability with transparency, accountability and most of all integrity...."--Ricardo "Ricoy" Palmares, Jr, NFGB President, P I T G A M E S Issue #19, p. 4

    OPEN FORUM

    Many Breeders from Bulacan are speculating about the issues which the UBGBA encountered, and as a result, another organization (AGBB) was formed.

    Many ordinary cockfighting afficionados from Bulacan, would want to be enlightened about what happened to the association. It is admitted, that sabong is a sport of the maginoos. How come, instead of unity amongst members, what resulted was division?

    These are some questions that a Bulacan Breeder would ask?

    1) WHAT WAS THE ISSUE or ISSUES WHICH PREVENTED NFGB FROM RECOGNIZING UBGBA?

    2) FOR BOTH ORGANIZATIONS, WHAT BENEFIT WILL MEMBERS GET WHEN THEY JOIN YOUR ORGANIZATION, CONSIDERING THAT THERE WILL BE NO BAKBAKAN FOR BULACAN ASSOCIATIONS AFTER ALL?

    3) DO YOU THINK DERBIES OF EITHER ASSOCIATION ARE WORTH JOINING? WHAT FOR WHEN THERE ARE OTHER DERBIES WHICH THEY CAN JOIN, WHICH WILL NOT REQUIRE A MEMBERSHIP FEE?

    4) IS THERE NO OTHER WAY TO FIX THE PROBLEM? WHY CANNOT BULAKENYOS UNITE, ELECT EFFICIENT AND QUALIFIED BOARD MEMBERS AND CREATE AN EFFECTIVE BY-LAWS?


    BULACAN GAMEFOWL BREEDERS UNITE

    Until such time that the inter-association disputes have been settled, then we could expect that no prudent Bulacan Gamefowl Fancier would ever join a divided and worthless association.

    It would be prudent to have a UNITED ORGANIZATION of Bulacan. With a united organization, Bulacan Gamefowl Breeders could move mountains--evidenced by GOLDEN TORNADO ********.

    [I]We ask the two presidents of both associations (UBGBA and AGBB) to please settle the differences in the open so that Bulacan Breeders would be able to arbitrate and discuss matters for the development and benefit of a UNITED BULACAN ASSOCIATION.

    Just sharing my thoughts.

    God bless.

    Tres Mentiras

    P.S.

    This thread is an even playing field. You cannot expect UBGBA and AGBB visit each other's thread. This time, let's make it happen.

    BULAKENYOS UNITE!!!
    may pag-asa na yata

    meron na ngayong BBA(Bulacan Breeders Association)
    na mamahala sa lahat ng gustong sumali sa Bakbakan
    galing sa AGBB at UBGBA

    may 10 opisyal mula sa AGBB at UBGBA ang BBA
    Pres. Dr. P. Tolentino
    from AGBB...
    Rigor Cepacio
    Rommel Kalalang
    Dalwyn Yulangco
    Jun Honares
    Rommel del Rosario <(sa kanya ko po nalaman ito)

    gandang araw mga ka Bulacan

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