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    everybody knows the secret...hehhe...thanks for being honest bro..gudluck poh...

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    Re: Methycobal used as B12 Injection

    mecobalamin
    Quote Originally Posted by ALAB 1223
    ano bang composition nitong methycobal?

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    Re: Methycobal used as B12 Injection

    How many MCG per 1ml? Is it like Neurobiron

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanjoe
    How many MCG per 1ml? Is it like Neurobiron
    methycobal inj - 500 mcg/ml @ 1 ml per ampoule

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    Re: Methycobal used as B12 Injection

    Guys;

    Please refer to this link for the details of Methycobal ampoule. Price is also indicated
    http://www.mims.com/Page.aspx?menuid...p&h=methycobal

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilvyn
    Guys;

    Please refer to this link for the details of Methycobal ampoule. Price is also indicated
    http://www.mims.com/Page.aspx?menuid...p&h=methycobal
    For Philippines, Check how much is the Price Difference (hehehe)

    http://www.mims.com/Page.aspx?menuid...ycobal&CTRY=PH

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    Quote Originally Posted by GADO
    Good day Dr.TJT,
    Can you give your opinion on the best dosage of Methycobal and it's schedule of application.
    Thanks and regards

    Originally Posted by jaz101678
    Thats wat Im using in my 21 day keep..Maganda talaga ang galaw ng manok. Expensive pero sulit. U can but it at mercury drug store.. The right dosage is .5 cc..

    Originally Posted by jack_kie
    .10 ml / kg body weight http://sabong.net.ph/forum/images/Ub...ies/tongue.gif
    Good day to all.I hope our good doc.TJT, gives his opinion on the recommended dosage.

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    Originally Posted by GADO
    Good day Dr.TJT,
    Can you give your opinion on the best dosage of Methycobal and it's schedule of application.
    Thanks and regards

    Originally Posted by jaz101678
    Thats wat Im using in my 21 day keep..Maganda talaga ang galaw ng manok. Expensive pero sulit. U can but it at mercury drug store.. The right dosage is .5 cc..

    Originally Posted by jack_kie
    .10 ml / kg body weight http://sabong.net.ph/forum/images/Ub...ies/tongue.gif


    Good day to all.I hope our good doc.TJT, gives his opinion on the recommended dosage.

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    up...up..upppppp

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    Quote Originally Posted by MLGFmico
    everybody knows the secret...hehhe...thanks for being honest bro..gudluck poh...

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    Re: Methycobal used as B12 Injection

    Quote Originally Posted by GADO
    Originally Posted by GADO
    Good day Dr.TJT,
    Can you give your opinion on the best dosage of Methycobal and it's schedule of application.
    Thanks and regards

    Originally Posted by jaz101678
    Thats wat Im using in my 21 day keep..Maganda talaga ang galaw ng manok. Expensive pero sulit. U can but it at mercury drug store.. The right dosage is .5 cc..

    Originally Posted by jack_kie
    .10 ml / kg body weight http://sabong.net.ph/forum/images/Ub...ies/tongue.gif


    Good day to all.I hope our good doc.TJT, gives his opinion on the recommended dosage.
    up ...........................

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    update , it is now sold for Php 305 per ampoule 1cc at mercury drug store, for those interested i got a limited stocks from a friend, i can sell it for a lower price, just pm me, quezon city area only.
    Last edited by redjungle; February 16th, 2010 at 08:26 PM.

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    Re: Methycobal used as B12 Injection

    Quote Originally Posted by MLGFmico
    everybody knows the secret...hehhe...thanks for being honest bro..gudluck poh...

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    Re: Methycobal used as B12 Injection

    mga kasabong testing lang po gusto ko lang malaman kung magkano pwede e inject sa cck at stag cyanocobalamyn injectable usp 1000mcg/2ml
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaz101678
    Thats wat Im using in my 21 day keep..Maganda talaga ang galaw ng manok. Expensive pero sulit. U can but it at mercury drug store.. The right dosage is .5 cc..

    Kailan po ang last inject nyo sa 21day keep? salamat

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    Quote Originally Posted by pd&pc
    Kailan po ang last inject nyo sa 21day keep? salamat

    LAST INJECT WILL BE ON THE 17TH DAY

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    Quote Originally Posted by pd&pc
    Kailan po ang last inject nyo sa 21day keep? salamat
    Re: Methycobal
    I consider ( Doc TJT ) Methycobal ampoule the best alternative drug to Cyanocobalamin (American Regent).
    It is given on Day 1- Day4- Day7-Day11 & Day17 (last shot). It is best administered (0.5cc) during night time (PM).
    A detailed medication chart is written on page 26 of my book "On Gamecock Conditioning". Taken from Dr.TJT 's post.Hope makatulong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GADO
    Re: Methycobal
    I consider ( Doc TJT ) Methycobal ampoule the best alternative drug to Cyanocobalamin (American Regent).
    It is given on Day 1- Day4- Day7-Day11 & Day17 (last shot). It is best administered (0.5cc) during night time (PM).
    A detailed medication chart is written on page 26 of my book "On Gamecock Conditioning". Taken from Dr.TJT 's post.Hope makatulong.
    thanks for quoting,
    Last edited by redjungle; April 16th, 2010 at 03:09 AM.

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    wla ba problema kung sunod-sunod ang injik ng manok? kasi napansin ko day 1 at day 4 masyado yatang dikit ang pitsa na yan sir? just asking

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    mukhang maayos to a. wala na pala yung rubramin ni doc tjt?
    yung manual on conditioning ko kasi luma na.

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    I use 1 tab of Methycobal in the morning of fight day and anabolic steroid 5hrs before fight and it works for me derby or hackfight

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    Cockmates,

    If it is true that Methecobal from Esai costs 301 pesos per ampule and an ampule only contains 1 cc, this means that the cost of the 5 doses per cock in the 21-day conditioning regimen is a wooping 900 pesos! Don't you think that is too much for a B12 supplementation alone for 1 bird?

    Would it interest you if I offer you an alternative that is at least equally effective but would only cost you 24 pesos per cock for the entire 21-conditioning?

    First some facts about B12 and the B Complex vitamins: Cyanocobalamin is the most air-stable of the B12 vitamins. It is also the easiest to crystalize and therefore the easiest to purify after it is produced by bacterial fermentation. A form of B12 called hydroxocobalamin is produced by bacteria and then changed to cyanocobalamin in the process of being purified in activated charcoal columns after being separated from the bacterial cultures. Cyanide is naturally present in charcoal and hydroxocobalamin, which has affinity for cyanide, picks it up and is changed to cyanocobalamin. This is perhaps the reason for the competitive price of cyanocobalamin and why this form of B12 is the most widely used form in the food industry.

    Animals and humans can convert cyanocobalamin to active forms of the vitamin such as methylcobalamin. This process happens by equilibration, as cyanocobalamin slowly loses its cyanide in the sorroundings that contains no cyanide. The amount of cyanide by the way, in toxicology terms, is insignificant.

    With the facts stated above, is the extra amount we have to pay for Methycobal worth it? Please remember the disparity in prices. Will using it give us additional benefits over the use of cyanocobalamin?

    I personally prefer to use B Complex vitamins instead of plain B12. I know that the B1, B6 and B12 work in synergy in the metabolism of carbohydrates, fats and proteins. This is the reason why birds supplemented with B Complex have good appitite, good body mass and are relatively more powerful and durable. They are also considered neurotropic vitamins, meaning tonic for the nervous system, that is why fowls usually move better, more alert and with sharper reflexes.

    Just my thoughts...

    BantonSpur

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    methycobal ampoule
    day4 day8 day12 last shot day17..with wheat germ oil capsul & cod liver oil capsul


    Quote Originally Posted by fastestkill
    wla ba problema kung sunod-sunod ang injik ng manok? kasi napansin ko day 1 at day 4 masyado yatang dikit ang pitsa na yan sir? just asking

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    BantonSpur

    Thank you sir, very informative but if you don't mind please share us what is the dosage and administration of B-Complex for the entire 21 days conditioning, thanks in advance sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexanderich
    BantonSpur

    Thank you sir, very informative but if you don't mind please share us what is the dosage and administration of B-Complex for the entire 21 days conditioning, thanks in advance sir.
    Sir Alexanderich,

    I do not want to mention any brand as I may sound advertising here but if you want to know my practice, please PM me.

    BantonSpur

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    I do not want to mention any brand as I may sound advertising here but if you want to know my practice, please PM me.

    BantonSpur
    Sir PM sent, Thank You..

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    Methycobal is tjt's alternative medication for the keep...see page 26-B for more info...

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    Gud day sir banton spur pwde po bng malman kng an0 po ang gmit m0ng b-c0mplex kng ilan po ang d0sage and administrati0n nito. Pwd po bng mlaman 21 days medicati0n m0. Bago lng po kc aq h0pe u can help me. E2 po email ad q
    rjet_16@yahoo.com
    G0dbless po.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chegamefowls View Post
    thanks alot sir jack_kie
    lepanto cockers club???? men saan mo nakuha nyan .. asa ka pa

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    Cost is not an issue when it comes to giving proper vitamins to our birds, especially if you are going to bet a reasonable amount of money.

    There is a reason why Methylcobalamin is more costly than Cyanocobalamine.

    I believe one of the main reason is absoption. Methylcobalamine is readily absorbed while Cyanocobalamine go through a procress before fully absorbed by the body.

    Just last week I told a friend of mine to use Methylcobalamine. He bought 6 ampoule at Php 300 plus per ampoule..He fought 4.

    He scored 3 wins and 1 loss..not bad...

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