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    Bred by Heinie Mathesius

    Hennie

    A Hennie is one of the very few Strains of pure Game Fowls. They were first seen in India and they must have come out of the Jungles as did the Bankiva, and when you cross them they are no longer a Hennie. I believe they are just as the Maker made them. Their traits, their fighting style, their speed and cutting makes them as different from their long feathered cousins as daylight and dark.

    They came into England in the early fifteenth century and the good British breeders bred them to perfection and at one time they challenged all of England with their Hennies. From the Sports and Mutations they bred them in many different colors, including the beautiful Grouse bred by John Harris. They soon found their way into Spain where the Spanish bred them over their Brown and Grey Spanish. My good friend, the late John Thrasher, bred the Spanish just as they came from Spain and many of them came he-feathered.

    The first Hennies were brought into this country by a party named Story and they proved to be great fighters in short heels as used along the East Coast. Mr. Chester A. Lamb imported the Black Thorne, also the brown Hennies in the early eighties. He bred them for fifty years and sold most all of the old time breeders, Hennie brood cocks. Mr. Lamb also imported the Kikilia from Ceylon. These he gave to me about a year after he imported them. My first Black Hennies came from Mr. Lamb and I also imported some great fighting Brown Hennies from England.
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    Bred by Joe Sanford Hatch

    Sandford Hatch

    The original Hatch Bloodlines were created out of the BrownRed, Roundhead and Whitehackle Strains. Later "Sandy" Sandford Hatch developed which today is primarily noticed and known as "Hatch" and certain strain such as the "Blueface" was perfected and created by Billy Ruble.

    (Blueface / Lieper / McClean ) These Hatch strains will enhance the power and calmness of any breed – a very stable and intelligent powerful bird with a unique sense of fighting strategy. This is a very intelligent strain of hatch with a ton of hitting power that can enhance any hatch brood stock.
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    Bred by Manziel

    Perfection Grey

    Grey Bloodline is from Freddie Wimberly who shortly after world war 2 handled birds for the great Colonel Madigan. There are no truer Madigan Grey Blood in existence today! Infused with my Manziel obtained direct and by other cockers such the Perfection Grey that came from J.D. Perry who received them from E.W. Law. Harrold Brown who originated Red Fox Farm and John O Fowler were partners and developed these gamefowl. The strain goes back to 1937 J.D. Perry called them perfect chickens as Post Oak perfected the fowl even further. Some come blue legged just like Harold Browns Red Fox Farm Greys or Post Oak Greys. www.redfoxfowl.com My other Grey strain comes from E.W. Law and Sweater McGuiness they were perfected by John O Fowler and Jerry Hughes. Because of the similarities from these two grey families. I decided to combine them for genetic enhancement and stability of the strain as I do not believe in inbreeding or very close line breeding. Then throwing in a J.F. Vance Perfection Grey from Post Oak Game Farm. The Blue in their legs comes from an old Perry Hatch crossed in to infuse to make these birds perfect and the genes are still noticed in their legs a trait kept from the Brown Red which was bred into the Hatch early on which is one of the oldest and established primary breeds of gamefowl. These three excellent and proven foundation bloodlines were improved by Freddie Wimberly who received Colonel Madigans gamefowl who late in age gave them to Harrold Brown and John O Fowler and are the basis of my grey bloodline and genetics. They are called Colonel Sanders “Fowler Fox Madigan Greys” named after the great men that bred these foundation fowl. Two gamefarms that had Colonel Madigans stock given by Freddie Wimberly. They will enhance any cross with game, agility, dedication, and lighting fast speed. In action they are Texas White Tornados. The grey feathering is a dominate trait - and an excellent bird to cross with the Hatch or Albany. These crosses are for that problem bird in a line up against you.
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    SWEATERS 2DAY.....


    Today, one is not considered “in” if he is not breeding the Sweater fowl. Yellow legged, pea combed, high stationed, sleek body conformation and with their characteristic pumpkin-orange hackle feathers and swarming offensive fighting style – Sweaters were popularized in the Philippines by Carol NeSmith who won the World Slashers International Derby back to back. As with many families, the origin of Sweater is mired by so many versions, some even contradictory. However, it is commonly accepted that this blood, as originated by Sweater McGinnis, is heavy on the Kelso blood. Today, the more well known Sweaters are those which come from Dink Fair or Colonel Sanders.

    One of the breeds of gamefowl most in demand today are the "Sweaters". There are several versions of how they originated. The following account of their origin is "straight from the horse's mouth". It comes from Johnny Jumper and another respected cocker who knew the parent fowl; when, where and by whom they were bred. The following is their version how the Sweaters originated.

    Sweater McGinnis gave Walter Kelso a yellow legged Hatch cock whose bloodlines are thought to trace back to Harold Brown's McLean Hatch. Mr. Kelso bred this cock to his Kelso hens and the offspring from the mating proved to be outstanding pit cocks. Cecil Davis, who was a friend of Mr. Kelso, walked cocks for him and had access to Mr. Kelso's best fowl. Cecil got one of the cocks which Mr. Kelso raised from the Sweater McGinnis Hatch cock and his own hens.

    Cecil got this cock from Doc Robinson, who also walked cocks for Mr. Kelso. The cock was yellow legged and pea combed. Cecil bred him to five of his out-and-out Kelso hens. The offspring from this mating were the foundation of the Sweaters. They were called Sweaters because the Hatch cock from Sweater McGinnis was their grandfather. As the above indicates, in breeding, they would be Kelso - yellow legged Hatch. The original Sweaters were bred by Ira Parks, who was Johnny Jumper's brother-in-law, a very fine man and an excellent breeder of gamefowl. Ira, Johnny and Cecil were at the hub of a group of cockers in northern Mississippi and Tennessee who were friends and cocking partners. Several of this group got Sweaters from the original mating. Some of these friends have bred the Sweaters without addition of outside blood and have them in their purity today. Other breeders have added infusions of other blood to their Sweaters.

    The line of Sweaters which is bringing the breed such popularity today came from Roy Brady, who got some of the first mating of Sweaters, to Sonny Ware, to Odis Chappell, to Carol Nesmith and the Browns of Mississippi. Odis Chappell let a number of friends in addition to Carol, have his Sweaters, so the blood has been distributed rather widely in central Alabama in recent years. It has been excellent blood for all who got it. This line of Sweaters produces occasional green legged offspring, usually pullets. When asked about his, Roy Brady said that at one time some Hatch was bred into this line. This line is said also to carry small amount of Radio blood.

    The Sweaters described in this article are typically orange-red to light red in color, with yellow legs and pea combs. Of interest, however, Dolan Owens of Booneville, Mississippi, acquired some of the early Sweaters and has bred them to come uniformly dark, wine red in color, straight comb and white legged. In looks, these two lines of Sweaters show almost no resemblance. This is an example of how a family of fowl can be bred toward different standards by different breeders and In a few generations the two lines will be like two different breeds. Sonny Ware bred some Radio into the Sweaters making them pumpkin in color. Most people like this color better and breed to that end.

    Colonel Sanders obtained his Kelso fowl from Cecil Davis.

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    Re: Palatandaan ng bloodline ng manok

    Quote Originally Posted by OREVON
    I share ko lang ang konti kong nalalaman:

    SWEATER

    (isang pamilya na nabuo sa pamamagitang ng kumbinasyon ng yellow legged hatch at kelso)

    Kadalasan ponkan red. Yellow legged pero may lumalabasa din na white legged. Medium to high station sila. Peacomb at meron streamers sa buntot ang iba. Ang fighting style nila angat sarado at mabilis ang follow up sa baba.

    ROUNDHEAD

    Pula ang kulay. High station. White legged. Halos peacomb. Angat sarado at mabilis ang laro. Sinasabing ito ang bloodline na matalino sa laban.

    CLARET

    Halos kamukha ng roundhead pero ang pagkakaiba nila ay short to medium station ang claret. White legged. Straight comb. Ang ulo nila ay medyo pahabang maliit.

    LEMON

    (Isang pamilya na nabuo ni Sir Paeng Araneta na kumbinasyon ng blueface, whitehackle at claret)

    Short to medium station sila, straight comb, ponkan red at yellow legged.

    HATCH

    Dark legged. Low to medium station. Pula or talisayin. May straight comb (gaya ng blueface) at may peacomb (mclean).

    malaking tulong ito sa katulad kong baguhan..slamat

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    Taas natin para makita ng lahat.......GOOD BETTER BEST...DON'T REST 'TILL YOUR GOOD BECOMES BETTER AND YOUR BETTER BECOMES BEST....good luck to the next breeding season.....
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    Mga sir , Tanong ko lang yung history ng johnny jumper grey .... I just acquired this bloodline ....

    Maraming salamat po sa info .....
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    Kung nagpalitan ng palahi sina Mr. Kelso at Mr. Jumper maaaring sa Madigin Regular Grey galing....(not sure).

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    Quote Originally Posted by phoenix101
    Kung nagpalitan ng palahi sina Mr. Kelso at Mr. Jumper maaaring sa Madigin Regular Grey galing....(not sure).
    Thanks for the info .....

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