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    Re: cigar claret fowl

    Thanks Homer for these video of clarets crosses and to you sir Cigar for producing these magnificent claret feathered warrirors. Hopefully I can breed some in the near future in the Phil. Happy cocking and have a great weekend to both of you.

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    homer productions i like it.... perfect song..... hehehe


    cigar

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    Re: cigar claret fowl

    Quote Originally Posted by CIGAR
    homer productions i like it.... perfect song..... hehehe


    cigar
    I like to have this claret in my farm sire cigar how much is the trio can you pm it to me thank a lot

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    Cigar Kelso Hatch
    coming out of moult
    watched this one in the yard for a long time


    http://baryabarya.multiply.com/video...ar_Kelso_Hatch

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    Cigar Roundhead
    this is my type of Roundhead

    http://baryabarya.multiply.com/video...ar_Roundhead-2

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    Our HH Moore Claret Broodcock... best cross with our North Carolina Blueface and Carl Davis Roundhead...

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    Quote Originally Posted by WT AVALON
    http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...n/DSC00662.jpg

    Our HH Moore Claret Broodcock... best cross with our North Carolina Blueface and Carl Davis Roundhead...

    sir wt avalon, I believe you have 2 strains of clarets, wine red white legged and light red yellow legged. Which one do you prefer and why?

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    Sir Everest

    I received your PM, if you dont mind, I'd like to answer your inquiry in this thread.

    A few years back, we carried the Griffins from a known breeder. Until 2006, gave us junk fowls, other leg was short and carrying "both left feet". That is when I started scouting for another Claret Blood.

    We had an old line of Hanky Dean that we just produced for continuing the line,
    ability to finish quick and if not ability to drag and perform the last punch and
    the last peck. That is when I decided even though its hard to find a Hanky Dean
    breeding - i have to keep looking.

    It led me to Kentucky, a backyard breeder. And another in Texas, another backyard
    breeder. Both are not bigtimers but had the reputation to fight "THICK" blood of
    Claret. Both also has the reputation with dragfights.

    Some has different opinions with Gaff/SK chickens. To each his own. Our method of selecting Gaff and SK birds to import and breed seems to work for years.

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    continuation

    When I was narrowing the scouting. This is where it became a win-win. The backyard breeder in Kentucky was the "father" of the backyard breeder in "Texas". Both with the blood I wanted, the REAL Hanky Dean Claret Breeding.

    Scouted some derbies in Texas where Cigar compete when it was still legal. I scouted
    it hard to check if this is the kind of chicken I need for our type of competition in the
    Philippines. It took a quick decision what we wanted.

    Cigar Clarets.

    In scouting BREEDING chickens, you have to ask yourself. Is he a good handler? breeder? Some folks are very good in handling but that does not mean
    it can be bred good when imported. A very good tip my friend. Look for BREEDING
    chickens. I have seen many cases of good handlers but not good breeders.

    I've scouted places in Alabama, Georgia, California, Texas, Kentucky and Missisippi.

    All good Clarets I have seen for good baseline blood breeding are:
    1. Wine Red
    2. Medium Station
    3. Pearly White Legs
    4. Body/Chest are prominent signs of Whitehackle Ancestry.
    5. Good Cutters
    6. Good Breaking ability (does not break when it cannot cut)
    7. Win quick, ABILITY to DRAG and Win if needed.
    8. Fiery Red Eyes and face is flushing red.
    9. Straight Comb
    10. Throws white streamers

    For a backyard breeder, it is important that on your first attempt to breed,
    you can see results. Save time, resources and money.

    Cigar Hanky Dean Clarets are medium and medium tall balanced. Can be shown pure,
    and can win pure. Even if the opponents are much more taller, a few folks can attest
    when we fought the pure Cigars, some wins clean or win with slight cut only.

    Clarets are not for breeding beauty. It does shows mostly beautiful chickens but
    I witness those that are not wins in multiple.

    We have fought a few that we just rotated daily and fed good and pickup from the yard straight to hackfights. Another good sign of good Claret breeding.

    You dont here the name, Mr. Hunt and Cigar -- no neon signs

    5 years of scouting Clarets paid off.

    Hope this helps.

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    another good thing to share to you is:

    BIGTIMERS does not mean BIG TIME CHICKENS.

    as you can see, there are still a lot of never heard names
    that can compete in Bigtime consistently.

    What I have seen with scouting really gave me the boost and push
    that father and myself is ok as a backyard breeder.

    Its the chickens and how they breed it.


    good day

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    Re: cigar claret fowl

    pictures

    Cigar Roundhead


    Cigar Claret Hatch


    Cigar Grey

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    nice looking. i hope so that cigar fowl will affordable to the small time cocker.

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    Re: cigar claret fowl

    Narrowing down to Claret Traits
    with Cigar Claret Traits

    1. With a thick blood of Cigar, it can win with "kalawit" "sundot" from the bottom
    when the opponent is on top. One of its open trait.

    2. When hit badly, knows how to glue himself next to his opponent and punch til his dead
    or his opponent is dead.

    3. In most cases, even on air, when engaged, he will just bounce his body going down
    and his feet wont land on the ground , and will just shuffle to its opponent.

    4. Easy to point

    5. Frontal attack, very very fast and powerful.

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    thanks homer.... the secert out now.... hehehe... how was your weekeend? i lost a good broodcock this weekend.... i call you later....


    cigar

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    I never believed in SOUTH PAW as a GENETIC TRAIT.
    But I guess I am a believer now.

    Bill's Bigfoot is also the same way. any 1/2 blood.

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    if you notice they allways step first with left foot..... sp..... hehehe....


    cigar

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    Quote Originally Posted by CIGAR
    if you notice they allways step first with left foot..... sp..... hehehe....


    cigar
    tell you dad, the chickens did the talking
    we just took notes while he showed us what he is

    call me crazy all the leftie will be mated to each other
    including kearneys this coming nov.

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    It is no secret Swtrhtch, that good claret blood crossed on Hatch and/or Roundhead produce some of the most amazing fighters. You have some great looking fowl which shows the qualities of good breedings. From my experience purchasing gamefowl since the early 70's, the best blood is found in small breeders that breed only to perpetuate the linage and not for fame or fortune. This sport we love so much is to be enjoyed as our forefathers did. Being humble and utilizing our wisdom to select the best we can will surely bring us success. Good luck, have fun and keep breeding those wonderful families of gamefowl you have acquired.

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    look forward too many years of success for your family as has been for our family....



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    Hey Cigar:

    This yr. I was able to produce maybe 6-7 pairs of straight bred clarets from the trio I got from you thru Homer. I also have some crossed with DGRH/LEIPER/BROWNRED F1's of Homer's hens. This coming breeding season I'll have some hatches for the broodcock. Can I try the straight ones as stags? Take care. Looks like Homer is on the go again.

    Raffy

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmdiokno
    Hey Cigar:

    This yr. I was able to produce maybe 6-7 pairs of straight bred clarets from the trio I got from you thru Homer. I also have some crossed with DGRH/LEIPER/BROWNRED F1's of Homer's hens. This coming breeding season I'll have some hatches for the broodcock. Can I try the straight ones as stags? Take care. Looks like Homer is on the go again.

    Raffy
    now I know where to get backup if needed

    dok - the MS black hatch works fine with cigars
    had a few mating we r testing with that.

    im sure throwing your winning rhead in the pie will give the station as well


    Dok/C: loosing a job one after another.
    and with chickens, I definitely know who are the people I can trust.
    Last edited by swtrhtch1925; March 31st, 2009 at 04:26 AM.

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    raffy yes show pure as long as they are not late hatch if late hatch stunt grow..... have shown back in days pure never have a problem.....


    good luck.... maybe i will get to visit your farm in may....



    cigar

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    Quote Originally Posted by CIGAR
    raffy yes show pure as long as they are not late hatch if late hatch stunt grow..... have shown back in days pure never have a problem.....


    good luck.... maybe i will get to visit your farm in may....



    cigar
    Cigar, How are you ? I followed your advice about the mating. The Claret BCock is mated to Gary Gilliam's Hatch RH and I had 4 pullets ,2 hatch clarets mated with my RH from GG and 2 pure ones mated with another GG RH plus the gift Rubles. The hens I experimented with a Claret BCock from my friend in La.

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    good... i think i like the 1/2 rh 1/4 cigar 1/4 hatch..... we will see how the rh/cigars do this may.... im doing much better had a hard last year....


    cigar

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    Quote Originally Posted by crisman
    Cigar, How are you ?.
    Kuyang - glad your back posting.
    im very curious as to how your clarets will blend with the frosts

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    Quote Originally Posted by swtrhtch1925
    Kuyang - glad your back posting.
    im very curious as to how your clarets will blend with the frosts
    Homer, I have 2 claret/ ruble hatch stag which I am planning to mate with some frost grey pullets . The broodstags have real good station and should be a good cross to the medium station vertical flying Frost Greys. Regards to your family, Kuya Manny

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