September 25th, 2003, 12:07 PM
breeding old english DOM/ ginger/ bulik
mga igan,, naghahanap po ako ng ganitong linyada. mayron po bang may alam sa inyo ng nagpapalahe o naglalaban ng old english DOM/ginger/bulik..salamat po:blush:
September 25th, 2003, 01:33 PM
The OEG doms and Gingers are two different Strains. The doms are "bulik" whilst the Gingers are "malatuba". Be carefull with OEG's as some of them were not bred for competition, just shows. The best OEG doms for competition that I've come across were bred by Ralph Bermann. He is now 84 yrs old and two yrs ago he sold the last 17 trios. I bought two but have not bred them pure, I crossed them with Billy Rubles Toppies. If you are in the States a guy called Warren Booker is a good friend of Ralph, he may have this strain. Try and get the wineglass line. His contact #662-842-8369. I am not recommending these birds, but if you want them call these guys. In the P.I you can try Emil Garnica, he is o'seas right now but in two months time you can call him on 09179917273. This guy and Mang Jess breed OEG doms. These birds are good cutters and are multiple shufflers but dont have bottom. They will not be suitable for the knife in my opinion.
The Gingers are the same blood that Duke Hulsey and Roy Bingham bred. Try Larry Carter, I am not sure if he still breeds. I got mine from John Devine who still has a few but I dont think he sells. Good knife chickens.
VINI VIDI VICI
September 27th, 2003, 04:59 AM
No question the Sierra's of Cebu have the best Doms in the Philippines at this time.......speed....good cutting....they have what it takes to win!PM Victor or Santi Sierra if you need some more info.
It just happened that i was able to see some of their fowls fight in Bacold more than a year ago and their Cebu fowls had convincing wins against formidable Bacolod bred chickens.A win shy to win the championship trophy.
Try them and you can never go wrong!
September 27th, 2003, 12:39 PM
2 weeks in succession there were 2 breeders in Dipolog that breed Doms... both Dom line originated from Capt. de Sagon and you know how good they are during the 80s.
September 27th, 2003, 02:26 PM
try this site
they have the best DOM.
September 29th, 2003, 04:04 PM
Dom Toppie Ruble Cross
This a photo of my DomXRuble Toppie- hen. Black legged and spurred. I apologize for the quality but it gives you an idea of how they look.
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September 30th, 2003, 01:07 AM
just wondering kung kelan na acquyire ni wildfoot iyong oeg dom niya. kasi sang-ayon sa nabasa ko ang oeg ay show birds na lang since cockfighting was banned in england. could it be na remnants iyon ng oeg na itinago ng may-ari before the cockfighting ban? if that is so, it was ages ago.
September 30th, 2003, 05:20 PM
Tama ka, Karamihan sa OEG's ay show quality na lang. Pero mayroon pa ring mga breeders ng OEG na nag te-test ng mga alaga nila. Marami akong kaibigan sa England at Australia na Oxford OEG's ang palahi pero tested ito sa bakal. Mayroon akong Video na ibinigay Kay "Sentenciador"(JC) na nagpapatunay na game ang mga OEG's. Sa video na ito naghamon ang mga English at ang kalaban nila ang mga Irish. Ang laban nito ay sa Gaff na di hamak na mas masakit sa ibang armas, sa aking pagkaalala wala manok na tumakbo sa video na ito.
Hennie, karamihan ng mga American Breeds ngayon ay nagmula sa OEG's, ang mga halimbawa nito ay Whitehackle, Boston Roundhead at marami pang iba.... Ang mga nagsimula ng breeding sa America ay mga Irish at English at ang mga palahi nila ay nagmula sa England, at late as the early forties ay nagpaparating pa rin ng mga palahi ang mag americano galing sa England.
Ang aking kinuhaan ng DOM OEG's ay 64 yrs ng nagbrebreed nito na kanya namang minana sa Tatay niya na nag-angkat nito galing sa England. Ang aking OEG dom ay nakuha ko in 1989 pero mga tandang lang ang kinuha ko. Inilaban ko ang mga ito sa gaff at maganda naman ang resulta. Hindi ko ibinibreed at hindi ko kursunada and kulay. Nagsimula akong magbreed nito in 2000 dahil nagaalala ako na mawala na ang linyada nito lalo na dito sa amin.
Sanay naka liwanag itong aking saysay.
October 1st, 2003, 08:12 AM
kung di naman masyadong personal na tanong, saan ba yang dandenong?
mahilig ako sa manok, kahit hindi panabong. i like off colored chickens, lalo na iyong splash. may mga nakita akong pics ng banbtam chickens sa internet, oeg rin.
i believe what u said about the origin of the oeg. kahit nga iyong show kind na oeg ay napakatikas ng tayo. may nakita ako sa internet na hatchery sa u.s. nagbebenta sila ng day old oeg chick at 7 dollars each. sa tingin ko mahal dahil sa mcmurray hatchery sa idaho, one dollar plus lang ang isa. well, just want to share what i have found.
thanks for answering me.
October 1st, 2003, 07:36 PM
Ang Dandenong ay nasa Australia, pero ako ay malayo sa Dandenong. Iyon lamang ang lugar na akin ginagamit dahil ang mga hayupaks dito ay kasing higpit sa America.
Ang kulay na gusto mo "splash" ay madaling palabasin kahit na hindi galing sa OEG. Ang mga Travellers ko ay naglalabas ng "Splash". Ito ang aking Formula para magpalabas ng "splash" sa akin mga Travellers:
Abohin mated to Abohin = 25%Black Reds 25%splash 50%Abohin
Abohin mated to Splash = 50% Abohin 50% Splash
Abohin mated to Black red = 50% Abohin 50 Black red, no Splash
Black red mated to Splash = 100% Blue, No splash
Splash to Splash = 100% Splash
Ang formula sa itaas ay akin karanasan in 20 yrs of breeding ng mga Abohin. Kaya kung gusto mo ng splash ay sundin mo ang sa itaas.
October 2nd, 2003, 04:56 AM
many thanks, wildfoot
just as i thought sa australia nga iyan. kasi the name sounds like australian aboriginal.
thanks much sa breeding input. i will do that.
October 2nd, 2003, 01:03 PM
ako gusto ko abuhin at bulik, share mo sa akin ha, hehehe... joke lang.
October 3rd, 2003, 04:01 PM
Balita ko magiging Broodcock ka na raw. About time pare! Make sure na yun pullet mahilig din sa manok, Masarap yung Misis na mahilig sa sabong..... may taga pakain ka pag inumaga ka sa beerhouse.
October 3rd, 2003, 04:43 PM
Hehehe... Hinahanap ka namin last june WSD finals. di ka ata nakapunta. Well, See you this coming january pre.
October 4th, 2003, 10:55 AM
I was there the first two days pero hindi nagqualify and Liza Galore kaya hindi na ako sumipot on the last day. I will definitely be there in Jan..naglugon ng ang pang entry ko.....This time I wll be fielding birds that have moulted in P.I. all at least 3X winners so it should be good. See you then.
January 17th, 2006, 08:37 AM
Saan Nag Mula Ang Bulik Blood At Ano Ang Blood Composition Nito?
MGA PRE BAKA ALAM NYO KUNG SAN NAG MULA ANG MGA BULIK? MAGAGALING B TALAGA ANG BULIK? SAN PINAKA MAGANDANG I CROSS ANG MANOK NA ITO? AT SINO ANG NAG PASIKAT SA MGA BULIK?
January 17th, 2006, 09:12 AM
nakuha ko lang sa history ng game strains
eto ang sabi:
GEE DOMS: Originator, Dr. Gee, 1850. Bloodlines: not known (Experts on the question class Doms as related to the Sumatra). Description: Color dom, guinea red, orange, white, red eyes, yellow legs.
CASSIDY DOMS: Originator, R. Cassidy, Iowa, 1913. Bloodlines: Minton, Harvey, Chappell Doms. Description: All colors dom, white and yellow legs, red eyes.
HARVEY SHUFFLING DOMS: Originator, W. L. Harvey, S. C. Bloodlines: Huddleston Doms, Cuban Doms, Thompson White, Peas Soup Pyle, Arkansas Traveler, O’Neal Dom. Description: All dom shades, yellow legs, usually st. comb.
KENTUCKY DOMS: Originator, J. B. Frymore, Ky. Bloodlines: O’Neal Dom, Norwood Doms, Mugwump, Dom & Grey, Grist Grady, Smoke Ball. Description: Dom shades, white, white and yellow legs, st. comb.
O’NEAL DOMS: Bred by, Tom O’Neal, Ky. Description: Light, dark and white, white and yellow legs.
SURE SHOT DOMS: Originator, G. E. Robb, Mo. Bloodlines: Minton Dom, White Tail, Grist Champion. Description: Dom shades, white and yellow legs, red eyes, st. and pea comb.
January 17th, 2006, 11:07 AM
Doms could probably came from jungle greys (gallus sonnerati), a jungle fowl accidentally mated a pheasant bird on the jungle.
It could be funny but it's just my wild guess...they belong anyway to both avian family.
i ask myself once where could be these easter eggs came from, was it from a bird or chicken? the eggs look like birds egg (some spotted, some have different color) but the size looks like as big as chicken eggs. .
keep on searching the truth will set you free on your question.
the most favorite are the chappell doms coz they believe that chappell infuse some sweater blood in them.
a chappelbluebarredrockdom x sweater now known to other as englishdom (lemonhackledred, having a gilmore looking or sometimes claret looking tail) or irishdom (whitehackled and whitetailed claret looking tail or more whites can ba seen on feathers.).
The history of DOMs was started by Dominique then lots of breeders followed his breed and created a different bloodline name as Doms make it WIN on pit.
My experience of breeding my englishdom is that both male and female help together on making a nest....and if ever the hen who is hatching the eggs feels hungry she makes a call to his partner male and so the male will take the place of the hen and the male will be the one hatching the egg for the meantime...just like pigeons they help one another in hatching the eggs. .
January 17th, 2006, 11:53 AM
virus talagang nahihilig ka na sa bulik ah ano sabi ni kamanukan sa bulik nya.
January 17th, 2006, 12:20 PM
sir desertfire binigay lng ni kamanukan ung no. ni bulik apatot e
actualy sir bata palang ako puro bulik ang breed ng lolo ko nung tumagal nangonti kc marami ang bumili sakanya. ngaun sana gusto ko ako naman ang mag patuloy kaya humahanap ako ng bulik ung mga proven na at di basta basta. un ang mas gusto ko makuha ngaun laluna ung mga dark leged bulik bumibilang ng panalo un
salamat po sa comment nyo sana madag dagan pa po ito
salamat po sa comment gudluck po
January 17th, 2006, 12:23 PM
e dito po sa philippines cno po ang nag breed ng bulik?
January 17th, 2006, 12:34 PM
last Sunday (Jan. 15) galing kami sa Farm ni Capt. Joe De Sagun d2 sa amin sa Indang, Cavite... & we saw lots of nice Bulik's... kaya lang wala dun si Kapitan De Sagun...
January 17th, 2006, 12:38 PM
salamat karachi sa info mga mag kano kaya kay cap ang trio ng bulik
sa tingin nyo pede rin kaya pang world slasher ang bulik?
January 17th, 2006, 12:48 PM
ang nakausap namin dun ay si Vic (pamangkin ni Kapt.) & according to him, they sell their chickens for 2k - Stag & 8k-Cock... nung araw madalas maglaban itong si Kapt. (70's & 80's). Sorry di namin na ask kung how much ang Trio nila
January 17th, 2006, 12:55 PM
ok yan a 2k pede na un makikita narin naman ang laro nila khit bata p e.
salamat sa info sir karachi
January 18th, 2006, 08:15 AM
sir vertical lips san pinaka magandang icross ang bulik? nag bebenta kb ng khit isang stag lng? sana matulungan mo ko
January 18th, 2006, 08:31 AM
CONGRESSMAN PECHAY....ay naglalaban ng bulik last june 2005 WSD at nanalo in a fashion way...
ang mga bulik ko ay chappel na me halong foster kelso...kaya di pa ko nagbebenta nito...at di ako nag bredding this season...nag alaga lang ako ng few stags at 2-3 times winners dom
January 18th, 2006, 10:59 AM
nung KCA stag derby may matitikas na bulik dun may UFAC sa entry name di ko lang alam kung kanino...
January 18th, 2006, 11:38 AM
dom gonna be famous again
January 18th, 2006, 01:04 PM
san magandang icross ang bulik?