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    Quote Originally Posted by sixfeetunder View Post

    Looks the same. Thank you very much

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    Which breeder over the last several years has tested the Leiper blood and kepted it strong. Eastside or Hatch Village. What combo is better for G, between the two? I think I have the 3/4 leiper 1/4 Penny. Got it second handed. Dead game, cut too. Need more bottom but I am interested in building on what I got. Thanks everybody.

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    Rat Graves leiper are very consistent in the short knife. If you watch the intercontinental derbies in Mexico they are the most consistent green legged fowl shown in the short knife. Unlike the powerful hatch like Penny, bates or Ruble hatch just to name a few seem too slow for the short knife. They also seem to lack cut. The Leipers on the other hand are very fast smart and cut better than your typical hatch and can be shown pure. Here are videos:
    http://www.galloshatch.com/index.php...013&Itemid=108
    http://www.galloshatch.com/index.php...013&Itemid=108
    Last edited by lurena; June 16th, 2013 at 05:57 AM.

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    Thank you Lurena for your post and videos. Thats the kind of Leiper I'm talkin about. I sure would like to be there in person. Sure appreciate the advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BARNTHUG View Post
    Thank you Lurena for your post and videos. Thats the kind of Leiper I'm talkin about. I sure would like to be there in person. Sure appreciate the advice.
    Here is 1/2 Penny and 1/2 Leiper video. As you can see a little bit slower but more powerful and you can see the bill hold and shuffling of the Penny blood.

    http://www.galloshatch.com/index.php...013&Itemid=108

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    Re: Rat Graves Leiper Hatch

    Great penny/ leiper awesome Batlle fowl.

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    I see the difference. I would like the pure leiper better, already have the style of the 1/2 and 1/2 in the leiper that I have, don't like the bill hold, and the "low head" , the cut and power is somewhat there in my leiper, could use more bottom like my Gilmores. My Gilmores have the style of the first 2 videos, and they out show the leipers I have now. My Leiper's 70-75% W and my Gilmores at about 80%. I want the leipers up with the Gilmores. Thanks for your help. May PM you for more info before Rat in November.

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    Re: Rat Graves Leiper Hatch

    Excellent I do like the gilmores too were did you get yours?

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    Blackwater, they are great, the less you do to them, the better they show. I really have no complaints with the Gilmore, maybe a little mean though. If I can find some leiper that show as good as my Gilmore, I'll be happy for a while.

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    Lurena those are some awsome birds

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    Re: Rat Graves Leiper Hatch???

    Quote Originally Posted by victor View Post
    Hi,
    Khazimline got the liepers and got rid of them, Mayor Molina also junked his. Just like the sparring if you really know what to look at. hehehe. Theres no real extended stretch with the legs. It does alot of wing flapping being fancy, flying high. But if you really test them like what i do. Then you would know theyre not all that. These birds will win in brush fights. But who I meet in competition. You will not win many.
    And worst is they get spraddle legs when they get to 3 yr. then the eyes turns white.

    Anyhow, I just say it as it is.

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    I just read this forum and I was suprised about the outcome of rat graves leiper, my friend got this line from one farm in bacolod & sold it to me after he finished using the leiper. "o my gulay". kung mao ni outcome sir, murag ako nalang cguro iuli ky sayang ang oras ug gasto breed ingun ani ang result. no consistency. thanks a lot sa info. useful kaayo for new breeder like me.

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    Can someone please PM me Mr Graves contact info? Do you know what is the cost for a trio?

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    a pretty nice tread I got a lot lesson for breeding materials. I will compared to my own experience... thank you guys...

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    I am very careful of selecting materials to mixed my old lines. duke hulsey/hatch, rey alexander/claret, dan gray/roundhead. Ived been using this almost 25 yrs in my back yard breeding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lurena View Post
    Here is 1/2 Penny and 1/2 Leiper video. As you can see a little bit slower but more powerful and you can see the bill hold and shuffling of the Penny blood.

    http://www.galloshatch.com/index.php...013&Itemid=108
    This one may have been a bit slower, but got the job done a lot quicker

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    Re: Rat Graves Leiper Hatch

    This is a pure Leiper out of Hatch Village bloods !!

    https://youtu.be/4OZYUhlXEgA

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    Will add to our wish list a trio Rat Graves Leipers. Our dream strain to cross with the roundheads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oxfarm View Post
    This is a pure Leiper out of Hatch Village bloods !!

    https://youtu.be/4OZYUhlXEgA
    Very good Leiper! I've said it several times their is no better green legged blood than the leiper fowl for the short knife. They are smart, game and posses above average cutting ability! Liepers are like kelso blood they were bred perfectly for the short knife.

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    I think Bruce Moore has the pennys from Tom Dale also

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    I been hearing that his hatch aren't game anymore. Anyone know how true this is?

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    My pair of rat graves leipers, this bird is a bulldog and so is his offspring
    Doing great so far hope to keep getting great results

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweaterkiller View Post
    when they fight they have two styles one they dont commit they stand on there scoreline and wait till opponent comes in and breaks right above them hitting over the shoulder or back very accurate cutters 1 pitting roosters in gaffs and long knifes the other side of them very smart and break high with frontal kicks they fight the same year after year and are very powerfull cross well with mclean can fight real young 10 months into cocks no prob ratt fought them like that for years and won many derbies stags into cocks dont belive ask him yourself you want some good ones get the in and in cut wish i had these roosters again they were the most athletic powerfull dark wine red fowl i ever owned they are the jimmy east leipers they come light or dark i prefer the dark ones blue legged and hens will be dark with dark faces like a brown red by the way the in and in cuts were penny leiper cross as they age they get slow thats why ratt fights em young they are way faster and agressive these are the bone crusher hatch we also had some crow bar hatch at one time they were hatch toppies they cut like no tommorow a cross that his brother crow bred up i dopnt know if he still has them aloha from hawaii roland hayashi


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brettjern View Post
    I been hearing that his hatch aren't game anymore. Anyone know how true this is?
    Boy you sure "hear" a lot of things...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JLF2.0 View Post
    Boy you sure "hear" a lot of things...
    I thought your faggot ass was deleting your account? U still raising those 60 breeds so u can appeal to every customer or r u still sucking from daddy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brettjern View Post
    I thought your faggot ass was deleting your account? U still raising those 60 breeds so u can appeal to every customer or r u still sucking from daddy?
    60??? Lol name them? Ive sold about 12 birds in my life lol Did you ever take care of that HUGE problem you had?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JLF2.0 View Post
    60??? Lol name them? Ive sold about 12 birds in my life lol Did you ever take care of that HUGE problem you had?
    Oh yeah I bought a piece of **** truck probably like yours. How many roosters your daddy sell this past year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brettjern View Post
    Oh yeah I bought a piece of **** truck probably like yours. How many roosters your daddy sell this past year?
    Oh about 10 or 11.. How are them roosters of yours in those ****ty ass dirt floor pens looked like they aint been moved YEARS doing? The pictures you post are pathetic

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    PATHETIC... Look like you may get 3 pittins out of them if you're lucky

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