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    best S/k Claret

    Ive been thinking about some crosses to my brood fowl for a week or two. Now im sure what i want now where to buy from if anyone can give me there inpute and testaments as to where to get some good claret for s/k show would really help I just spent an hour going threw my magizines and would like some of youre inpute thanks .

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    Re: best S/k Claret

    wheres my s/k peoples bump.

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    Ray Alexander Clarets Are Winning For Me

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    Re: best S/k Claret

    Cigar clarets are great for sk.

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    Re: best S/k Claret

    the wendall loveday clarets of the f&f entry that won the 2003 cajun classic at sunset and they have a few for sale yfis

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    Cool Re: best S/k Claret

    I have read here that Mike Everett has some really good clarets as well

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    I go for Howard Belk, good foundation blood
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    Re: best S/k Claret

    Quote Originally Posted by sucess gamefarm
    wheres my s/k peoples bump.

    Your PM box is full.


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    the old time belks and griffins

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    Re: best S/k Claret

    There are two people on this site that id recommend Clarets from. Slipspur and Irishcutt. They dont breed a whole lot but they are some good ones.

    Anything that is good in the Gaff I think should be good for SK.

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    Re: best S/k Claret

    not to ruffle feathers, but I personally disagree with the statement anything good in gaff would be good in short knife. Completely different cutting stroke needed. There are some good gaff birds that also make good sk birds but there are also some really good gaff birds that are average at best in sk. Just my humble opinion

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    Springwater, could you tell us more about the cutting stroke needed for a Sk bird, how you check if the bird have it ( I know putting knives will tell us, but before that ) and in your opinion, which birds got that traits. thank You

    New Rooster

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    Re: best S/k Claret

    Quote Originally Posted by springwater
    not to ruffle feathers, but I personally disagree with the statement anything good in gaff would be good in short knife. Completely different cutting stroke needed. There are some good gaff birds that also make good sk birds but there are also some really good gaff birds that are average at best in sk. Just my humble opinion

    I agree.I don't think he was speaking from experience.More from theory.Same with recommending some ones fowl with out testing them....I still like the guy though.

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    Re: best S/k Claret

    For short knife, you want fast multiple stroke with a cutting strike that pulls back toward them, not just in and out. The only way that I can see it is to test until you know your breed. I know you can tell if he is single stroke or multiple shuffle just by sparring, but the best way to tell if he is cutting is testing then look at opposing chicken. You want to see long cuts, not just pokes or 1 or 2 inch cuts. I always like raising the same breeds year to year. That way you can learn your breeds and know what suits them best. There are a lot of breeds good at this. I hate to name any because I would leave some out but a few are roundheads, some hatches like leipers, some sweaters, and of couse kelsos
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    we have shown ours in sk when was legal and do real well with pure's and crosses.....

    cigar

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    Re: best S/k Claret

    Quote Originally Posted by CIGAR
    we have shown ours in sk when was legal and do real well with pure's and crosses.....

    cigar

    Hi Cigar...may i ask wats the make up of cigar claret.....

    tnx and Merry Christmas

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    lois those two hen are pure cigars and if you send me a pm with leg/wing bands i will tell you how close they are in blood....


    cigar

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    Re: best S/k Claret

    heres a wendall loveday claret good s/k roosters

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zacdaddy77
    I agree.I don't think he was speaking from experience.More from theory.Same with recommending some ones fowl with out testing them....I still like the guy though.

    ,Zac
    LMAO thanx Zac.
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    Re: best S/k Claret

    Quote Originally Posted by CIGAR
    we have shown ours in sk when was legal and do real well with pure's and crosses.....

    cigar
    Sir Cigar, Just wondering if you can share us how your claret do in the show. Are they high breaker, multiple shuffler etc.... and what bloodline they cross well.
    BTW, i'd appreciate it, if you can PM if you have available young trio of your Claret.

    Thanx

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    Light's Out Claret's are as good as anyone else's for the Mex shows.Smart and accurate with good power. YFIS

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    Re: best S/k Claret

    Quote Originally Posted by springwater
    not to ruffle feathers, but I personally disagree with the statement anything good in gaff would be good in short knife. Completely different cutting stroke needed. There are some good gaff birds that also make good sk birds but there are also some really good gaff birds that are average at best in sk. Just my humble opinion
    Well I can tell ya this statement is true based on experience. Richard Torres has touched on this in antoher thread as well. I have noticed 1 style of how a bird strokes and I can spot it a mile away because they flat out suck in the gaff, but you put the s/k on and you are onto something. It is like throwing a baseball side ways with your arm, making a circular motion sideways like your triing to pull something toward ya after the release of the ball. In gaffs this birds have shallow penitration, but with a s/k they can rip ya

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    i have a video of a bird i showed that was killer in the aire with a s/k he ripped good but on the ground couldnt cut to literally save his life. and kick the ground alot instead of the other bird when having a chance

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    when it counts they pull and push..... they will break on top every time just open one eye so they can see..... everytime..... ask anyone who has them.....


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    Re: best S/k Claret

    Quote Originally Posted by gapman
    heres a wendall loveday claret good s/k roosters

    http://i952.photobucket.com/albums/a...n37711/014.jpg
    nice man

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    Quote Originally Posted by cockfighter_199
    nice man
    thanks they are good clarets

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    Gotta Love Them Clarets





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    Question Re: best S/k Claret

    Quote Originally Posted by CIGAR View Post
    we have shown ours in sk when was legal and do real well with pure's and crosses.....

    cigar
    Sir Cigar. What blood did you cross them whit for the s k back then ? I seen a pic of yours whit a Rh over clarets hens what was this cross good at
    Thanks

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    Re: best S/k Claret

    I like my clarets really well they r dead game and cut with a ton of power always on top. They r awesome pure or crossed with my gavilans.

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    Re: best S/k Claret

    In the States I would get Irishcutt 's Claret they are good, Targeting the S/K I know some mexicans that Breed his Claret to Whitehackle, Albany and GL hatch for the S/K and realy love them,
    I have used them in the S/k on my place between friends and testing, they held thier own.

    Cheers
    Last edited by Matt Dunne; March 26th, 2012 at 04:31 PM.

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