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    Mga cockmates magandang araw po. Tanong ko lang po kung bakit merong ibang manok na nangingitim kapag ibinibitaw? Ano pong gamot ang pwedeng ibigay sa manok na may ganung klaseng problema? Thanks and more wins to all.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by balasubas
    Mga cockmates magandang araw po. Tanong ko lang po kung bakit merong ibang manok na nangingitim kapag ibinibitaw? Ano pong gamot ang pwedeng ibigay sa manok na may ganung klaseng problema? Thanks and more wins to all....
    may sakit po sa baga iyan o may halak.
    hirap gamutin yan..
    pero try ninyo ang amtyhl 500..
    pero kung ako,katayin ko na lang..
    mahirap kasi gamutin pag ka ganyan ang sakit..gastos lang

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    Re: manok na nangingitim sa bitaw

    Quote Originally Posted by nativelito23
    may sakit po sa baga iyan o may halak.
    hirap gamutin yan..
    pero try ninyo ang amtyhl 500..
    pero kung ako,katayin ko na lang..
    mahirap kasi gamutin pag ka ganyan ang sakit..gastos lang
    Kung di madala sa amtyl, try mo doxylak.
    at ipahinga mmo muna ang manok mo for
    1 week. 3 days mong painumin ng antibiotic,
    pakatapos bigyan mo sila ng vitamins..
    after 1 week ibalik mo uli sa cording area,..
    after 3 days ibitaw mo, mga 3 to 4 buckles lang.
    pag nangitim pa yan..
    wala na yang pag-asa, katayin mo nalang..
    sayang lang ang pera at pagod mo..

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    Quote Originally Posted by nativelito23
    may sakit po sa baga iyan o may halak.
    hirap gamutin yan..
    pero try ninyo ang amtyhl 500..
    pero kung ako,katayin ko na lang..
    mahirap kasi gamutin pag ka ganyan ang sakit..gastos lang
    Agree ako pre... kulang ang oxygen intake ng manok na ganyan at hirap huminga kapag under strenous activity tulad ng pag bibitaw kaya ang sintomas ay nangingitim. Pwedeng may lung disease or respiratory defect. Kahit gumaling yan eh mahirap pa rin isabay sa laban against a healthy chicken.

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    Re: manok na nangingitim sa bitaw

    Sir sa totoo lng wala pa kong narinig na gumaling sa ganyang skit....
    Kaya para skin,katayin mu nlng..
    Mahirap ksi makipagsapalaran na ilaban pa yan...
    Kindi rin pde gwing ipampalahi....
    Kaya useless lng tlga kung aalagaan pa,sayang lng ang patuka.....

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    Re: manok na nangingitim sa bitaw

    Quote Originally Posted by CyroneCyche
    Sir sa totoo lng wala pa kong narinig na gumaling sa ganyang skit....
    Kaya para skin,katayin mu nlng..
    Mahirap ksi makipagsapalaran na ilaban pa yan...
    Kindi rin pde gwing ipampalahi....
    Kaya useless lng tlga kung aalagaan pa,sayang lng ang patuka.....

    sir gumaling man yan pagdating sa drag fight d rin tatagal yan lalabas at lalabas yan mas maganda jan katayin n lang mahirap n labanan ngayon kahit tga bukid magaling n rin magturok ng mga supplements. opinyon ko lang po

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    Re: manok na nangingitim sa bitaw

    Quote Originally Posted by paikulanaces
    sir gumaling man yan pagdating sa drag fight d rin tatagal yan lalabas at lalabas yan mas maganda jan katayin n lang mahirap n labanan ngayon kahit tga bukid magaling n rin magturok ng mga supplements. opinyon ko lang po


    Ung may kompletong pangangatawan o ung walang sakit na nokis hirap manalo ngaun dhil sa dami na magagaling magmanok!...

    What more pa cguro kung may sakit ang ilalaban ntin!....

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    Quote Originally Posted by balasubas
    Mga cockmates magandang araw po. Tanong ko lang po kung bakit merong ibang manok na nangingitim kapag ibinibitaw? Ano pong gamot ang pwedeng ibigay sa manok na may ganung klaseng problema? Thanks and more wins to all.......
    nangingitim kapag binibitag abay tinitiyak ko sau original Blueface Hatch swerte mo at meron ka....yan ang da best. joke lang. Respiratory problem pag kinakapos sa hangin may sakit sa baga.

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    maraming salamat po sa mga nag input... More wins to all...

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    Sir hawig ito sa ginawa kong thread dati yung nga lang eh pumipiyok naman ang akin, sabi ng mga kasabong natin me halak daw sa loob sinubukan ko na gamutin dahil sa sayang magaling kc pero nuon nilaban ko di nkatagal sa laban patay..buting nakinig na lang ako na ipamigay o i-cull nasayang lang pera ko at pagod hindi worth...

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    Definitely respiratory problem yan, kundi naman magaling sa bitaw might as well katayin mo na lang, wag mo ibigay kasi madadamay pa yun pagbibigyan mo ng manok...kung magaling naman ilaban mo na lang at tayaan mo konti, sayang din kasi yung hirap mo pagpalaki sa kanya kaya take mo na lang risk ilaban, mahirap naman kasi yung ikaw mismo walang tiwala sa manok mo di ba, sa konting taya di ka naman siguro maghihrap niyan, remember sa sabong hindi po lahat tungkol sa pera, hindi po kaya bayaran yung joy kapag nagpanalo manok nyo lalo na sariling palahi kahit konti lang tya lalo pa ganyan may handicap na, kung ayaw nyo naman i take ang risk ilaban eh ibigay nyo dun sa mga madalas manghingi ng manok at palahian na lang nila...Good Luck!

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    2x na akong nagkaroon ng ganyan, iyung mga nabili ko sa bayong iyung sa akin eh gumaling o natyambahan ko lang dahil sa tiyaga. magagaling kasi kaya nanghinayang akong patayin kaya pinagtiyagaan ko. nose flushing, anti-biotic at maintenance ng B-12 ang ginawa ko. nang ilaban ko eh nanalo pa sa drag fight iyung isa.

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    May manok akong ganyan,sweaterXroundhead, humingi ako ng advise sa mga kasabong pero mostly ang payo ay CULL na lang, bilang sabungero, mahal ko ang mga manok ko, di ko ugaling magkatay ng sarili kong breed na manok unless di ko talaga kursunada ang bitaw. Ang ginawa ko, kinundisyon ko pa rin, nilaban ko sa hackfight pero syempre kunti lang ang pusta.. awa naman ng dyos, nakakadalawa na, laging walang sugat at inaalagaan ko pa rin ngayon.

    So ang maipapayo ko sayo kasabong, kung may abilidad ang manok mo, ilaban mo na lang, pag di umabot ng basaan, may chance kang manalo...

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    Re: manok na nangingitim sa bitaw

    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Hawk
    May manok akong ganyan,sweaterXroundhead, humingi ako ng advise sa mga kasabong pero mostly ang payo ay CULL na lang, bilang sabungero, mahal ko ang mga manok ko, di ko ugaling magkatay ng sarili kong breed na manok unless di ko talaga kursunada ang bitaw. Ang ginawa ko, kinundisyon ko pa rin, nilaban ko sa hackfight pero syempre kunti lang ang pusta.. awa naman ng dyos, nakakadalawa na, laging walang sugat at inaalagaan ko pa rin ngayon.

    So ang maipapayo ko sayo kasabong, kung may abilidad ang manok mo, ilaban mo na lang, pag di umabot ng basaan, may chance kang manalo...
    Sir tama po kayo,dipende po kung tlgang super or magaling ung manok sa bitaw!..tlgang nakakapanghinayang katayin......


    Pero kung sitwasyon dahil lng sa presyo ng pagkakabili or dhil sa panahon na inalagaan ung manok or sa mataas ang pagkamanok... kaya nanghihinayang!...Dapat tlga pang Cull na...


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    Re: manok na nangingitim sa bitaw

    Quote Originally Posted by Purok4_MC722000
    2x na akong nagkaroon ng ganyan, iyung mga nabili ko sa bayong iyung sa akin eh gumaling o natyambahan ko lang dahil sa tiyaga. magagaling kasi kaya nanghinayang akong patayin kaya pinagtiyagaan ko. nose flushing, anti-biotic at maintenance ng B-12 ang ginawa ko. nang ilaban ko eh nanalo pa sa drag fight iyung isa.
    bilib ako sayo kakmate...

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    Re: manok na nangingitim sa bitaw

    Madali lang gamutin yan, if it's not too late. Mga .5 ml subcotaneous injection of LINCO SPECTIN.....3 days in a row. Tangal yan. The antibiotic has to be specific to this......

    Basta respiratory infection walang tatalo sa Linco Spectin.



    Wildfoot

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    bro balasubas maykaibigan akong may manok na ganyan din ang unang panalo nangingitim na sya bigla nalang namatay ang kalaban pangalawang panalo walang sugat pangatlong sabong tabla d na tumutuka at nangingitim na yan tabla tuloy.

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    Re: manok na nangingitim sa bitaw

    Quote Originally Posted by wildfoot
    Madali lang gamutin yan, if it's not too late. Mga .5 ml subcotaneous injection of LINCO SPECTIN.....3 days in a row. Tangal yan. The antibiotic has to be specific to this......

    Basta respiratory infection walang tatalo sa Linco Spectin.



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    KASABONG WILDFOOT MARAMING SALAMAT,SUBOKAN KO ANG GAMOT NA ITO,GANITO RIN ANG PROBLIMA SA 1 MULTI WINNERS NAMIN,TANONG KO LANG PO KUNG SAKALING HINDI NA ITO GUMALING PWEDE PA BANG GAMITING BROODCOCK,NANGHIHINAYANG LANG PO AKO DAHIL HALOS LAHAT NG LABAN AY HINDI SINO-SUGAT.

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    Re: manok na nangingitim sa bitaw

    Quote Originally Posted by wildfoot
    Madali lang gamutin yan, if it's not too late. Mga .5 ml subcotaneous injection of LINCO SPECTIN.....3 days in a row. Tangal yan. The antibiotic has to be specific to this......

    Basta respiratory infection walang tatalo sa Linco Spectin.



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    KASABONG WILDFOOT MARAMING SALAMAT,SUBOKAN KO ANG GAMOT NA ITO,GANITO RIN ANG PROBLIMA SA 1 MULTI WINNERS NAMIN,TANONG KO LANG PO KUNG SAKALING HINDI NA ITO GUMALING PWEDE PA BANG GAMITING BROODCOCK,NANGHIHINAYANG LANG PO AKO DAHIL HALOS LAHAT NG LABAN AY HINDI SINO-SUGAT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronron
    KASABONG WILDFOOT MARAMING SALAMAT,SUBOKAN KO ANG GAMOT NA ITO,GANITO RIN ANG PROBLIMA SA 1 MULTI WINNERS NAMIN,TANONG KO LANG PO KUNG SAKALING HINDI NA ITO GUMALING PWEDE PA BANG GAMITING BROODCOCK,NANGHIHINAYANG LANG PO AKO DAHIL HALOS LAHAT NG LABAN AY HINDI SINO-SUGAT.

    Ron generally I would not breed a sick chicken. Pero kung talagang di na maagapan. I would breed them at least 500 meters away from where you will raise the chicks. I would also disinfect the eggs in an egg dip before incubation.

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    Maraming salamat po!!! Sir wildfoot thanks po sa info....More wins to you and to all cockmates....

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    Re: manok na nangingitim sa bitaw

    Quote Originally Posted by wildfoot
    Madali lang gamutin yan, if it's not too late. Mga .5 ml subcotaneous injection of LINCO SPECTIN.....3 days in a row. Tangal yan. The antibiotic has to be specific to this......

    Basta respiratory infection walang tatalo sa Linco Spectin.



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    Widfoot,

    Pareho ba sa L-Spec ang Linco Spectin? Baka pareho lang active ingredient nila? Wala kasi Linco Spectin dito sa Cebu pero ang Australian made L- Spec na distributed ng Excellence ay meron. Magaling ito against respiratory ailments. Salamat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by super fly
    Widfoot,

    Pareho ba sa L-Spec ang Linco Spectin? Baka pareho lang active ingredient nila? Wala kasi Linco Spectin dito sa Cebu pero ang Australian made L- Spec na distributed ng Excellence ay meron. Magaling ito against respiratory ailments. Salamat!

    Super fly, yung L-Spec ba ay soluble powder? Kasi yung injectable only 38% is excreted by the body in 24 hrs whereas yung soluble ay 48%.....Meaning the injectable remains active in the animal longer. Pag malala talaga I inject and then use the soluble at the same time - no other source of water.

    It should be the same as long as they have Lincomycon @22% concentrate at Spectinomycin @44% concentrate.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildfoot
    Super fly, yung L-Spec ba ay soluble powder? Kasi yung injectable only 38% is excreted by the body in 24 hrs whereas yung soluble ay 48%.....Meaning the injectable remains active in the animal longer. Pag malala talaga I inject and then use the soluble at the same time - no other source of water.

    It should be the same as long as they have Lincomycon @22% concentrate at Spectinomycin @44% concentrate.......

    Wildfoot
    Yes Wildfoot, it is an injectable Lincomycin plus Spectinomycin. I check ko kung pareho ang percentage ng concentration. I was advised by vets that if the injectable is of the tetracycline family like Doxycyclines, Lincomycins, Spectinomycins etc. eh it would be better to pair it up with sulfa based solubles para linis lahat and to take care of cross infections. So far very good combo ko ng L Spec injectable at sulfa based solubles like Trisullak, Esb3 etc...Pag wala L Spec, I go to the Quinolone family for respiratory diseases. Salamat!
    Last edited by super fly; February 13th, 2010 at 12:47 PM.

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    Re: manok na nangingitim sa bitaw

    Quote Originally Posted by super fly
    Yes Wildfoot, it is an injectable Lincomycin plus Spectinomycin. I check ko kung pareho ang percentage ng concentration. I was advised by vets that if the injectable is of the tetracycline family like Doxycyclines, Lincomycins, Spectinomycins etc. eh it would be better to pair it up with sulfa based solubles para linis lahat and to take care of cross infections. So far very good combo ko ng L Spec injectable at sulfa based solubles like Trisullak, Esb3 etc...Pag wala L Spec, I go to the Quinolone family for respiratory diseases. Salamat!

    Super fly, tama! linco spec plus any sulpha based drug will kill your anaerobic bacteria meaning the bacterias that do not need oxygen to survive. People usually give just any antibiotic when their bird is unwell, however they dont differentiate what is more effective. The commonly used antibiotic (amoxicylin etc...) is more effective against aerobic bacteria caused by wounds and has much less power when dealing with anaerobic bacteria. Be careful though when using alpha based drugs as this is caustic to the system and have been known to inhibit bone growth.....Avoid giving it to chicks otherwise bansot ang mga labas niyan..... I always avoid sulpha based drugs unless absolutely necessary...

    I have another cocktail that I use para sa mag payat na payat......that is another topic.....

    Wildfoot

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildfoot
    Super fly, tama! linco spec plus any sulpha based drug will kill your anaerobic bacteria meaning the bacterias that do not need oxygen to survive. People usually give just any antibiotic when their bird is unwell, however they dont differentiate what is more effective. The commonly used antibiotic (amoxicylin etc...) is more effective against aerobic bacteria caused by wounds and has much less power when dealing with anaerobic bacteria. Be careful though when using alpha based drugs as this is caustic to the system and have been known to inhibit bone growth.....Avoid giving it to chicks otherwise bansot ang mga labas niyan..... I always avoid sulpha based drugs unless absolutely necessary...

    I have another cocktail that I use para sa mag payat na payat......that is another topic.....

    Wildfoot
    boss joey,nabanggit mo na rin lang yang payat na payat
    baka pwedeng magtanong na rin ako sa yo
    ano treatment doon sa manok na natutuyo ang katawan
    at papayat ng papayat?related ba ito sa leukosis?or avian malaria kaya?
    Last edited by aurora gold; February 13th, 2010 at 03:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aurora gold
    boss joey,nabanggit mo na rin lang yang payat na payat
    baka pwedeng magtanong na rin ako sa yo
    ano treatment doon sa manok na natutuyo ang katawan
    at papayat ng papayat?related ba ito sa leukosis?or avian malaria kaya?

    AG I gave this advice about 10 yrs ago now and it has been doing the rounds of poultry sites...similar to the advice I gave about feather picking and cannibalism that turned up in this site and was copied word for word from a poultry forum that I think you were a member way back in 2000. I have found at least 3 people claiming they wrote it and if you noticed I have stopped giving advice online since but the the idea is to help and I give advice every now and then.

    The most common cause of nangangayayat na manok is when the bacteria that thickly lines the stomach and intestenes is weakend. This lining provides a barrier to harmful bacterias. once the bad bacteria gains hold of this lining the chicken becomes lethargic and weakens, this then results in lost of appetite or emaciation....Again this bacteria is anaerobic.

    I use co-trimoxazole a sulfonamide antibiotic.....I know a lot of countries ban this drug for use in poultry but this has been caused by people not knowing how to use it......Remember with any drug you have to completely kill the bacteria otherwise they develop an immunity to it. I dont know what it is called in P.I but anything with 8mg trimethropim and 40 mg sulphamethoxazole /ml. The dose will be 2ml per chicken twice a day for 5 days. If they are really sick make it three times a day. Expect dramatic improvements overnight!!!!!! Remember not to stop before 5 days.....and also keep it in the fridge...give some yogurt or yakult afterwards and pen the bird to avoid re-infection...I also give inner health plus but this may not be available in P.I...

    Wildfoot

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildfoot
    AG I gave this advice about 10 yrs ago now and it has been doing the rounds of poultry sites...similar to the advice I gave about feather picking and cannibalism that turned up in this site and was copied word for word from a poultry forum that I think you were a member way back in 2000. I have found at least 3 people claiming they wrote it and if you noticed I have stopped giving advice online since but the the idea is to help and I give advice every now and then.

    The most common cause of nangangayayat na manok is when the bacteria that thickly lines the stomach and intestenes is weakend. This lining provides a barrier to harmful bacterias. once the bad bacteria gains hold of this lining the chicken becomes lethargic and weakens, this then results in lost of appetite or emaciation....Again this bacteria is anaerobic.

    I use co-trimoxazole a sulfonamide antibiotic.....I know a lot of countries ban this drug for use in poultry but this has been caused by people not knowing how to use it......Remember with any drug you have to completely kill the bacteria otherwise they develop an immunity to it. I dont know what it is called in P.I but anything with 8mg trimethropim and 40 mg sulphamethoxazole /ml. The dose will be 2ml per chicken twice a day for 5 days. If they are really sick make it three times a day. Expect dramatic improvements overnight!!!!!! Remember not to stop before 5 days.....and also keep it in the fridge...give some yogurt or yakult afterwards and pen the bird to avoid re-infection...I also give inner health plus but this may not be available in P.I...

    Wildfoot
    thank you very very much boss joey
    save ko sa file ko ito
    hanapin ko ang ibang brand name ng generic name na yan boss
    again,many many thanks boss
    Last edited by aurora gold; February 13th, 2010 at 04:45 PM.

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