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    Re: Hostage Crisis: Ang epekto sa atin & Pilipinas! Ano say ng sambayanang Sabungero

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    Ano ang masasabi niyo Rito...

    MANILA, Philippines – The killing of 2 Filipinos in China in 2005 is the subject of e-mails, blogs and online forums amid Hong Kong’s sorrow and rage over the Manila bus siege which claimed the lives of 8 Hong Kong tourists last August 23.

    On April 19, 2005, 25-year-old Wang Gongzuo of China killed Emmanuel “Bong” Madrigal and his teenage daughter, Regina Mia, using a scythe at Tiananmen Square in broad daylight. They were getting off a tourist bus when they were attacked.

    Madrigal’s wife, Vivian, suffered injuries but their 2 other younger daughters were spared.

    Wang’s motive for killing the Filipino father and daughter was not known, according to non-government organization Human Rights in China (HRIC).

    Quoting the China Post, HRIC however said Wang wanted “to vent his anger against society.” Read here

    A post, which can be read on the blog BarrioSiete.com as well as in an abs-cbnNEWS.com comment, pointed out similarities between the Tianamen Square killing and the Manila siege.

    Both incidents had vacationers on a tourist bus as victims. The killings also happened in public places of historical significance—Tiananmen Square in Beijing and Quirino Grandstand in Rizal Park, Manila.

    “In both incidents, the state failed miserably in protecting innocent tourists,” the post claimed.



    The post also noted discrepancies between the government's and public’s reaction.



    The 2009 hostage-taking, on the other hand, received international attention. President Benigno “Noynoy” Aquino III has apologized for the incident while the Senate has launched a probe into the matter.

    Netizens, meantime, are divided over the said parallelism between the 2005 and 2009 killings.

    In the PinoyExchange.com forum “Lest we forget- Pinoy Tourists massacred in Tiananmen Square,” user Rational said that both incidents show that “security lapses happen everywhere.” Read here

    Rational added, “The point is we acted reasonably to an isolated incident. They are over-reacting. They are calling our cops incompetent while theirs are too.”
    i dont think there is any similarity. yung sa China tila random act of killing ng isang mentally deranged na tao, nangyari na lang ,kahit saan naman maraming sira ulo, unpremeditated. Yung sa Manila ay hostage crisis situation na covered at broadcasted live, 11 hours na negotiation na mega-blunder ang outcome.

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    Re: Hostage Crisis: Ang epekto sa atin & Pilipinas! Ano say ng sambayanang Sabungero

    Quote Originally Posted by Karachigrey View Post
    Sir oironet0623 at sambayanang magsasabong, sa aking palagay ay napakalaki ang naging epekto nang pangyayari hindi lang sa bansa kundi higit sa lahat sa imahe ng pilipino sa buong mundo. Hindi ka tanto ang epekto nito sa ating mga kababayang nasa lupain ng mga instik lalo na ang mga ofw's. Sana ay magawan kaagad ng lunas nang gobyerno o sino mang may sakop sa departamento na mabigyan ng kaukulang proteksiyon ang ating mga kababayan.

    Daig pa nito ang naging sakuna dito sa estados unidos sa oil spill...kaya pagsamasamahin ngayon ang talino at kakayahan ng sambayanang pilipino kung papano maghihilom ang sugat na sanhi nang trahedyang ito. Wala nang sisihan at hanap ng dahilan kung sana laang....isang pangyayari na maraming aral na natutuhan dangan lamang sa malagim na paraan.

    Ang aking pakikiramay sa buong pamilya mendoza at sa mga duyahang turista at kani-kanilang pamilya.
    sir karachigrey, tama po, talagang kahit dito sa aking mga kasamahan na ilan chinese and asians (indians & koreans) iba ang naging pananaw ngayon sa bansa natin. yun mga puti naman, mas broadminded sila sa views and opinions nila. direct hit nito talaga nito ay mga kasama nating ofws dyan sa chinese territory but the same na rin sa ibang panig ng mundo ang effect nito sa ating mga Pinoy. damaged has been done pero sana nga we can recover agad sa pangyayari. tulungan na lamang sa ating munting paraan to inform na di naman ito total reflection bilang isang mamamayan ng bansang Pilipinas.

    sa mga kasabong dine kay sir bt hunter, jrb uk, donber at iba pang di nabanggit na kasabong who shared their views and opinion, taas lang natin. salamat po!
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    Re: Hostage Crisis: Ang epekto sa atin & Pilipinas! Ano say ng sambayanang Sabungero

    Excerpts from hostage-taker’s last interview
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    HERE ARE the excerpts from the exclusive live radio interview between Radyo Mo Nationwide (RMN) anchormen Michael Rogas and Erwin Tulfo and Senior Insp. Rolando Mendoza immediately before Mendoza opened fire at his hostages on Aug. 23 at the Rizal Park.

    http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquire...last-interview

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    Quote Originally Posted by rbarro View Post
    Excerpts from hostage-taker’s last interview
    Philippine Daily Inquirer


    HERE ARE the excerpts from the exclusive live radio interview between Radyo Mo Nationwide (RMN) anchormen Michael Rogas and Erwin Tulfo and Senior Insp. Rolando Mendoza immediately before Mendoza opened fire at his hostages on Aug. 23 at the Rizal Park.

    http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquire...last-interview
    sir rbarro - thanks for sharing. taas lang natin!

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    Re: Hostage Crisis: Ang epekto sa atin & Pilipinas! Ano say ng sambayanang Sabungero

    S - sana
    W- wag
    A - ako
    T- tamaan ng bala


    S- squat
    W- wait
    A - atras
    T- tago

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    Re: Hostage Crisis: Ang epekto sa atin & Pilipinas! Ano say ng sambayanang Sabungero

    kakahiya!!! mga pulis patola talaga!!!!! wlang ibang sisihin kundi ang mga pulis na nandoon.. gumagastos ang gobyerno sa pgpapasweldo....at puro pa sila reklamo dahil kakarampot daw sweldo! eh, kung mgtrabaho mas mabuti pa yata ang boy scout doon...

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    Re: Hostage Crisis: Ang epekto sa atin & Pilipinas! Ano say ng sambayanang Sabungero

    sira ulo talaga ang pulis na ito pulis pa naman ang anak niya sigurado damay din yon sinira niya pati buhay ng anak niya sira talaga itong taong ito kahit anong mangyari hindi ibibigay ang gusto niya dahil kung ibibigay maraming gagaya

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    dapat bigyan ang mga polis ng P10 per day budget para makapaglaro sa internet cafe ng modern warfare 2, company of heroes, battlefield 2, counterstike....

    Comment ng anak ko yaan na 9 years olds na nakapanuod ang live coverage ng hostage crisis. Dami daw opportunity to snipe bakit daw hindi ginawa. Dapat daw hinagisan ng flashbang to blind him like in the games, then use C4 to break ng bus doors. Then 4 x 4 formation to break-in, anyhow may riot shield naman daw na bullet proof. Eh natawa pa sya sa maso at yung nag hagis ng smoke cannister tatlong beses daw na sala.

    Well eto ang epekto ng corruption sa atin. Even the rebels are boasting that they have superior arms than the military, they even said that they bought the gunns and ammo from military gunruuners. Mga imported from US pa. Samantalang ang ating kapulisan/sundalo ang mga bulok na bala ang nasa kanila.... ayaw pang pumutok o sumabog.

    Kawawa yung mga /pulis/sundalo na nasa battlefield...samantalang yung mga politiko natin na nasa taas ay nagkakamamal ng milyon milyon na komisyun.

    sobra kasing politika dito sa atin.

    may pork barel mga polito. 50% ng project napupunta SOP nila. Grabe kalahati nasa bulsa nila agad para matuloy ang transaction. Dapat daw kasi everybody happy.

    subukan nyo mag reklamo sa kapulisan, ikaw pa bibili ng gasolina nila para gumalaw investigation... walang enough budget. Lalong lumala nung administration ni GMA kasi lalong lumaki budget deficit. Masisisi ba natin sila..... napakaliit na nga ng sweldo sila, hindi nila kaya abonohan ang kakulangan ng ating gobyerno.... kulang kulang sa training sa paghawak ng baril. Nakaka awa tayo na nakakahiya talaga sa buong mundo.

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    Re: Hostage Crisis: Ang epekto sa atin & Pilipinas! Ano say ng sambayanang Sabungero

    agree sir joey at sa iba pang kasabong dine. di maubos ang mga kamalian nakikita resulta ng mga maling gawain, karma na siguro din ito sa ating pagmamalabis sa pamumulitika.

    taas lang natin!

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    Re: Hostage Crisis: Ang epekto sa atin & Pilipinas! Ano say ng sambayanang Sabungero

    Quote Originally Posted by ernie67 View Post
    sira ulo talaga ang pulis na ito pulis pa naman ang anak niya sigurado damay din yon sinira niya pati buhay ng anak niya sira talaga itong taong ito kahit anong mangyari hindi ibibigay ang gusto niya dahil kung ibibigay maraming gagaya
    Palagay ko ibang discusion yung nagtulak kay Rolando Mendoza para maauwi sa desperasyon bunga ng BULOK na pamamaraan at bureaucratic red tape sa gobyerno sa atin. Tagal na nga naman na-dismiss yung mga ikinaso sa kanya pero ibitinitin siya tinanggal na mga benepisyo , meron pang lifetime ban na mag-hold ng public office... ni hindi siya pwedeng tumakbong baranggay chairman sa Tanauan na i-nasapire niya.. Not to defend yung course of action niya na mang-hostage, pero it opens up another can of worms na just a drop in the bucket sa atin..

    Mas nakakabahala yung admission na Malacanang na WALANG pointman or designated na tao para mag-handle ng crisis na tulad nito.... Lumalabas na si vice-mayor Isko Moreno lang at si Leyva ang in-charge sa buong pangyayari....Asan ang malalaking isda. Asan si Mayor Lim , ni hindi pala malinaw kung yung hepe ng PNP o ng DILG ang gugulong ang ulo dahil sa fiasco na ito... Its a very lame excuse for Malacanang to simply accept their mistake on a blunder this magnitude. Its this administrations way of sparing individuals from culpability by simply pointing fingers and saying they're "NOT ON THE LOOP"... and using the lame excuse that this administration is young and that there is a power struggle within Pnoys administration , only in the Philippines..... DID THEY REVAMP THE WHOLE PNP WHEN THE NEW ADMINISTRATION WAS SWORN IN . I thought protocols stay the same... our law enforcement agency was not established 3 months ago.

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