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    huron lemon VS Lemon 84

    What are their differences? Strong and weak points? tnx

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    Re: huron lemon VS Lemon 84

    I would like to know more about huron lemons also.

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    the huron lemon is not what most filipinos think of as lemons, only called lemon because of the hackle, it does have some duke hulsey blood, but same as all the huron bloodlines from jdperry. not the same fighting style, quick & good cutters, stick on the opponent like glue. hurons breeding it for some 50 yrs, huron bloodline.
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    Re: huron lemon VS Lemon 84

    Quote Originally Posted by Archer08 View Post
    What are their differences? Strong and weak points? tnx
    Are the Lemons84 we're talking about the lemons made famous by Paeng Araneta?

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    Re: huron lemon VS Lemon 84

    This one won't even be close. The Huron Lemons are not the Duke Hulsey fowls that has been the standard for LK fighting here in the PI for a very long time now. I've had the 84's for quite a long time now and have seen the Hurons in a friends farm. One is the patient vertical type and the other an aggressive poor breaking fowl. When this 2 blood meet head on in the LK, the 84's will just run rings over the Hurons. LOL

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    only lemons i have are from mayor juancho & lancey, the huron lemons diff style, they are more aggressive, average breakers, quick, hard hitting fowl, bred correctly i think will be winning line in the pi, we will see next stag season.

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    Re: huron lemon VS Lemon 84

    We have Huron blood except for their Kelso. Our battle fowl bred 1st season crosses with our original yard blood are excellent and not experimental. Regina and I do not have Lemon 84.

    Heres a few video's from RGBA and BaKBaKaN 09-10 seasons

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    undergroundperf, purchased a couple red hatch stags from andy, acording to andy about 1/4 kelso, i really like them, same as i like the red hatch.

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    Re: huron lemon VS Lemon 84

    Quote Originally Posted by kali ises View Post
    undergroundperf, purchased a couple red hatch stags from andy, acording to andy about 1/4 kelso, i really like them, same as i like the red hatch.
    If you see 2010 video's the kelso is YLJJk Kelso 1/2 x Huron pure or 50/50 crosses..Those are also Whirling Dirvishes to say the least in long knife here in P.I.

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    Re: huron lemon VS Lemon 84

    Quote Originally Posted by kali ises View Post
    only lemons i have are from mayor juancho & lancey, the huron lemons diff style, they are more aggressive, average breakers, quick, hard hitting fowl, bred correctly i think will be winning line in the pi, we will see next stag season.
    huron lemon in my opinion are stricky breed for mexican show.....

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    Re: huron lemon VS Lemon 84

    Quote Originally Posted by pallotero View Post
    huron lemon in my opinion are stricky breed for mexican show.....
    Well, if Huron Lemon's are strictly for the Mexican show.

    You really need to see these Video's. I am sure if you do some research you'll find plenty more in the big show's down south!

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    they are good cutters. They can be bred for long knife fighting. Here is their video in mexican short knife....

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...996&pr=goog-sl


    here is another one.....

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...958&pr=goog-sl
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    Re: huron lemon VS Lemon 84

    Quote Originally Posted by UNDERGROUNDPERF View Post

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    Re: huron lemon VS Lemon 84

    huron lemons in my opinion are well bred fowl by a very experienced breeder in andre huron, they were what i was looking for my velcros, the red hatch (mclean) is outstanding hatch,purchased the red hatch plus a couple red hatch stags with a little kelso blood. lemon hatch (mclean,blueface) i will infuse into my pi lemons, make them a little better on the ground for stag season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kali ises View Post
    only lemons i have are from mayor juancho & lancey, the huron lemons diff style, they are more aggressive, average breakers, quick, hard hitting fowl, bred correctly i think will be winning line in the pi, we will see next stag season.
    Kali,

    Excellent description of the Huron Lemon. I also got a trio of Huron Lemon direct from Andy and I crossed them with High Action Hatch of Joey Lacson, hopefully they will nick. I agree with you that this Lemon has big potential here in the PI.

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    g-farm, let me know next stag season how the cross is doing, might be interested in purhasing a stag. jwolf

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    Quote Originally Posted by kali ises View Post
    g-farm, let me know next stag season how the cross is doing, might be interested in purhasing a stag. jwolf
    No problem Kali I will update you on their performance.

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    Re: huron lemon VS Lemon 84

    Kali ises, What are his lemons ? Huron Farms lists Lemons, Lemon Hatch and Dark Hatch . Thanks

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    Re: huron lemon VS Lemon 84

    desertrat, huron lemon is basically jdperry blood, same as the lemon hatch & red hatch

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    Re: huron lemon VS Lemon 84

    So very "velcro" like in breeding ?

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    Andy Huron Lemons are indirectly but related to the Lemon84 or any PI Lemons because they all carry the original Duke Hulsey Lemon blood. PI Lemons were already bred to cater the Philippine style of cockfighting and this was done through selective breeding by numerous breeders in the PI. However, Andy Huron also has the Duke Hulsey Lemons because he inherited some of Duke's Lemons few decades ago and that's were his Lemons started. Even in the PI, you may see some variations of Hulsey Lemons just like the Lemons of Mr. Joe Alimbuyuguin, the Lemon Batchoy, Lemon Guwapo and the Lemon84. Mr. Paeng Araneta himself said that the modern Lemons are no longer pure so to speak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon Ace View Post
    Andy Huron Lemons are indirectly but related to the Lemon84 or any PI Lemons because they all carry the original Duke Hulsey Lemon blood. PI Lemons were already bred to cater the Philippine style of cockfighting and this was done through selective breeding by numerous breeders in the PI. However, Andy Huron also has the Duke Hulsey Lemons because he inherited some of Duke's Lemons few decades ago and that's were his Lemons started. Even in the PI, you may see some variations of Hulsey Lemons just like the Lemons of Mr. Joe Alimbuyuguin, the Lemon Batchoy, Lemon Guwapo and the Lemon84. Mr. Paeng Araneta himself said that the modern Lemons are no longer pure so to speak.

    the lemon 84 that paeng got is not the same as the other lemons that the duke had...when the duke was asked in a interview at grit and steel as to why won't he duplicate the lemons that are winning in p.i. he said "the bigtail hatch (blueface) that was used in that 84 combination is gone"...the original lemon 84 is green legged/stc...

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    Re: huron lemon VS Lemon 84

    This is My Huron Lemon Hatch Very fast, and strong!!


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    Re: huron lemon VS Lemon 84

    What does a lemon blood consist of. Im new to alot of breeds. A friend tells me its a type of hatch. Is this true?

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    Re: huron lemon VS Lemon 84

    Quote Originally Posted by kali ises View Post
    the huron lemon is not what most filipinos think of as lemons, only called lemon because of the hackle, it does have some duke hulsey blood, but same as all the huron bloodlines from jdperry. not the same fighting style, quick & good cutters, stick on the opponent like glue. hurons breeding it for some 50 yrs, huron bloodline.
    sir, is the huron more of a hatch fowl??? who has them here in the philippines???

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    Re: huron lemon VS Lemon 84

    Mr Ray Apostol of JRA Gamefarm has the Huron line..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon Ace View Post
    Mr Ray Apostol of JRA Gamefarm has the Huron line..
    thank you sir, now if its not too much to ask, can you pm me his number so that i can contack him?

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    Re: huron lemon VS Lemon 84

    Just becareful from ordering from Andy.
    He might just send you something you didnt order.
    Order 6 yellow leg and somehow he sent me 4 yellow leg and 2 white leg roundhead.
    The worst part was the roundhead was manfighters.
    Last edited by jam671; March 1st, 2012 at 11:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jam671 View Post
    Just becareful from ordering from Andy.
    He might just send you something you didnt order.
    Order 6 yellow leg and somehow he sent me 4 yellow leg and 2 white leg roundhead.
    The worst part was the roundhead was manfighters.
    hahaha you got tricked there sir, i was just wondering what did he say to you after you told him that?

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    Re: huron lemon VS Lemon 84

    He got mad and said that he also gave me a good price, discount.
    I replied to him saying, he never said i was buying discounted birds
    and i didnt ask to buy discounted birds.
    I even told him i would have paid more for his better stuff if he was
    to tell me i am buying discounted stuff. He then said he dont wanna do
    any business with me and that was it. Does he really think i would ever
    buy from him again after that kind of business?

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