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    Best Battles Cross and Worse Battle Cross

    I would like to see from your experiences, what crosses worked and what crosses didnt work.
    There are so much different varieties of bloodlines and some just nicks with each other and
    some just doesnt nick at all. Please provide your knowledge on what is a good cross and what was a bad cross.

    So far, i have seen some common crosses that nicks well.
    Those are as follows:
    Perry Hatch x Kelso
    Yellow Leg Hatch x Roundhead
    Dan Grey Roundhead x Dee Cox Sweater
    Mel Simms Black Mcrae x Mel Simms Hatch

    Bad Crosses:
    not sure what was bad, but most likely those that produced dunghills.
    Hope this area can be filled in.

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    Re: Best Battles Cross and Worse Battle Cross

    Claret x roundhead has worked good for me kelso x grey and hatch x kelso

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    Re: Best Battles Cross and Worse Battle Cross

    claret x blueface hatch, jumper kelso x green-legged mclean hatch and some dan gray roundhead x green-legged mclean hatch worked for me!!!

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    Hatch/hennie hatch/roundhead and hatch/grey has worked for me the worst cross by far i beleive is dunghill crossed with dunghill lol

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    Re: Best Battles Cross and Worse Battle Cross

    Think more about what each family of fowl does good as opposed to the name of the fowl. It will help you to keep track of what you EXPECT the offspring to do. Its important to have a mental image of how you expect them to perform. If they don't meet your expectations of performance(not just winning), you could adjust your breeding program.
    You don't just want to produce winners. You want high percentage of winners. You don't want 1 ace for every 10 cocks produced.

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    Re: Best Battles Cross and Worse Battle Cross

    Hard to say what is the best as everyone has different preferences and fighting conditions, a hatch cross is usually safe but you should pay close attention to the individuals you are breeding. Just because you are successful with a pen of Hatch-Kelsos does not mean pairing any of your hatch birds to any of your kelsos would produce winners.

    I general though I say Hatch crosses are usaully the best/dependable...

    WOrse cross? I don't know Pumpkin X Henny X Muff X Bantam, but hey you never know..

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    Re: Best Battles Cross and Worse Battle Cross

    Quote Originally Posted by MONGOOSE View Post
    Think more about what each family of fowl does good as opposed to the name of the fowl. It will help you to keep track of what you EXPECT the offspring to do. Its important to have a mental image of how you expect them to perform. If they don't meet your expectations of performance(not just winning), you could adjust your breeding program.
    You don't just want to produce winners. You want high percentage of winners. You don't want 1 ace for every 10 cocks produced.
    If I had one ace for every Ten cocks produced then I'd be breeding as many of those as possible... But then again maybe our definition of an ace is a little different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloodsaw View Post
    If I had one ace for every Ten cocks produced then I'd be breeding as many of those as possible... But then again maybe our definition of an ace is a little different.
    yess!! different expectations!

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    Re: Best Battles Cross and Worse Battle Cross

    The best cross I find is 1 from a mating where the Male is a Clean Multi winner and the hen is from a family where all her Brothers are Multiwinners.

    Worst I have seen is from a rooster who was not tested in the pit and a pullet was used because of her so called Bloodline.

    Just my observations
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    Re: Best Battles Cross and Worse Battle Cross

    Quote Originally Posted by jam671 View Post
    I would like to see from your experiences, what crosses worked and what crosses didnt work.
    There are so much different varieties of bloodlines and some just nicks with each other and
    some just doesnt nick at all. Please provide your knowledge on what is a good cross and what was a bad cross.

    So far, i have seen some common crosses that nicks well.
    Those are as follows:
    Perry Hatch x Kelso
    Yellow Leg Hatch x Roundhead
    Dan Grey Roundhead x Dee Cox Sweater
    Mel Simms Black Mcrae x Mel Simms Hatch

    Bad Crosses:
    not sure what was bad, but most likely those that produced dunghills.
    Hope this area can be filled in.
    Che'lu, here's my experience.
    Good Crosses:
    Kelso Cock x Hatch-Perkins Roundhead (Inbred) hen that nick.
    Roundhead x Hatch-Perkins Roundhead hen that nick.
    Roundhead x Hatch-Perkins Roundhead (Inbred) hen that nick.

    Bad Crosses:
    Perkins-Roundhead x Hatch hen (CA)
    Kelso x Hatch hen (CA)
    Hatch x Claret hen (WA)

    My bad crosses I called the "Wassa Madah" hybrid, because there's somethings wrong with them besides the "Wassa Madah"?

    Asta Ki

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    Re: Best Battles Cross and Worse Battle Cross

    bad cross? white leghorn cock to any gamefowl hen...lol... my uncle loves to raised gamefowl chickens (all were just gifted to him) as a hobby, he never fights his stocks, but once in a while, people/friends bought his chickens and fight them in hacks...some he gave them away, some win some lose...he doesn't know anything about bloodlines, all his chickens were hen hatched, hen raised, and run loose in the range, till' it's time to pen them up...so as the hens are loose...they can choose which cock to father their chicks...he only raises reds, blacks, & greys...for more than 10 years...there was a batch of white chicks that came out...i was so curious and asked him how come there was a batch of whites that came up...first, i thought it could be a throwback due to too much inbreeding...damn wrong, coz' i also have another uncle that raised local domestic gamecocks (tagalog) in the same place and at the same time had a white leghorn on cord...this was the culprit...the white chicks really grow fast and healthy, disease resistant...but they all end up in the pot...lol....i should have save one and find out later how it will fight against a real game bird...if it will run to the nearest highway...hehehe...or might stand on his ground coz' her mother is a good hen...who knows...

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