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    has anybody ever bought birds from cackle hatchery i already have proven bloodlines but would like to purchase some of these chicks to see if they are game and maybe start my own bloodline i was interested in their brown reds blacks and redquills what to you guys think they are 40 dollars for 5 chicks

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    cackle hatchery has show birds they do not have "GAME"fowl they are exactly what they are ment for showing they are by no means capable of being in the pit JMHO -cali

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    cackle hatchery has show birds they do not have "GAME"fowl they are exactly what they are ment for showing they are by no means capable of being in the pit JMHO -cali
    I agree with california fowl, I learned this lesson the hard way. I got 6 stags out of a brood from Cackle and I had to cull all but one. They are not game and not bred to be game. It wasn't a total loss though as the one I did not cull is a nice Brown Red and he is very game. I was also able to get four very nice BR OEG pullets out of that order that I plan to cross with some Kelso and Grey that I have coming.

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    cackle hatchery has show birds they do not have "GAME"fowl they are exactly what they are ment for showing they are by no means capable of being in the pit JMHO -cali

    I agree with california fowl, I learned this lesson the hard way. I got 6 stags out of a brood from Cackle and I had to cull all but one. They are not game and not bred to be game. It wasn't a total loss though as the one I did not cull is a nice Brown Red and he is very game. I was also able to get four very nice BR OEG pullets out of that order that I plan to cross with some Kelso and Grey that I have coming. WHY WOULD YOU BREED

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    WHY WOULD YOU BREED
    The Brown Red Pullets that I do have are very game, good station, and have some lemon hackle in them which I would like to have. I am going to try and breed them back after one brood with some Kelso. Also, like I said, the stag it also very game and has done good sparring with some of my cocks and other stags. That combined with the fact he is only 8 months old lends me to believe he might be alright. I backed into the OEGs before I knew anything about Americans.


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    i have to say i have ordered chicks from jeff smith at chackle hatchery to my suprise the where great game fowl i dont know about his brown reds or quills but his leapers are and sids are great if u cross them

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    sids they have known bloodlines i didnt know that

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    but his leapers are and sids are great if u cross them
    Is this true? Anyone else obtained this type of stock from Jeff?

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    I wudnt get fowl from cackle its a complete gamble. You mite get goode fowl but more often then not you will get birds good for nothing winning ribbons.

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    You got to realize if your am open business like cackle hatchery your gonna give your fowl a more "show" name I tell people I raise old English and Irish type show fowl only if they know me or see my birds or hear me talk to my family about them but not many around here no I have them better that way so you don't have people gabbing about you and your animals. I raise American pit bull terriers but I tell people their Staffordshire terrier or am staff's.

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    I ordered some chicks from him yrs ago i got the rebel greys & clairets the greys were suppose to b yellow legs had 2 come green a stag & pullet i had 4 greys total 3 stags 1 pullet clairets i had 2 stags 1 pullet at 10 months old the clairets wouldn't even face up & neither would the green leg grey the other two greys quit so i wouldn't have anything he has if he was giving them to me their junk

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    I just seen some videos of his other types of fowl on YouTube and by the way they look with about 20 or so hens altogether and a few cocks who knows maybe his standard oeg are being bred like that I know when I had pit bantams when I was real young they would kill each other when they were chicks never mind having cocks together with hens but the hens for the most part did get along. I'd hate to buy fowl that their is a 12x12 pen with 2 or 3 cocks together with hens unless they were laying chickens but all I have and want are actual American, Irish or Oxford gamefowl but all I have is American bred gamefowl

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    If I bought any chicks I'd try 3 breeds for the sake of argument and raise them to about 10 months and if they didn't show to each other then the whole bunch would go right to the auction were all the show birds go.even if one or 2 from each breed was any good I'd still take em all there no time to make someone else's birds compete when I have my own set breeds to worry about,I also heard many are man fighters but true show type fowl aren't bred to be aggressive at all especially to the handler.

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    for the pit i recommend a light glaze of butter, salt, pepper, some crushed/smoked peppers with a glazing of your favorite beer...

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    pm me and i will sent you the recipe for my moms butter orange chicken they go hand and hand.

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    Re: cackle hatchery

    Quote Originally Posted by roundhead21 View Post
    has anybody ever bought birds from cackle hatchery i already have proven bloodlines but would like to purchase some of these chicks to see if they are game and maybe start my own bloodline i was interested in their brown reds blacks and redquills what to you guys think they are 40 dollars for 5 chicks
    Are you serious? You would be better off buying someones yard hatch for that money. Unless you just want to go to feather shows.

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    they r to kind's of old English and what they have r the one's u don't want.if u want good fowl they r all over this site just look for them dont just give ur money away.

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    Haha alpha your recipe sounds more for some good meat birds than those cackle hatchery show feathers, that sounds too good of a meal to waste on them.

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    in 1984 i won 2 dirbys with there wingate brownreds.in 2010 i orderd and raised 3 breeds all ran in the pit

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    I have known yuys to win derbies with fowl from Cackle Hatchery and some guys loose with the same fowl. It is a gamble to buy from them, buy at your own risk.

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    Wow, what a throw back thread, brings back some memories. If I only knew then what I know now. Boy was I green and na´ve, just starting out and those were my first set of fowl. Game is not Game unless they've proven it in the pit with a gaff IMO. Boy those cackle hatchery birds were crap, but they sure were tasty. Finding true game OEGs it tough, most all of them are bred for show, I'd stick with the proven American Lines.

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    I got some red quills from them once. The hens were seemingly tough and hardy - more like pheasants really. Hawks and owls couldnt get to them while they destroyed the rest of my birds. The couple red quills cocks I got ran from everything. I still have a couple hens that I swap good eggs out from under them - they make good brood hens - that's about it.

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    i ordered 25 straight run special last year, turned them loose at 4 weeks age have 9 left one rooster 8 hens, they rest were killed by a dog, very hardy birds but wild as hell, and if you catch one watch your self they will bring blood.

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