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    Sweater crosses in gaff ,sk ??

    Anyone useing sweater crosses in gaff or sk if so what crosses are working

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    Re: Sweater crosses in gaff ,sk ??

    for sk-grey,kelso,albany,claret, anything
    Gaff- I would say hatch but sweater is a sk breed so i guess you will just pray that they will last.

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    Re: Sweater crosses in gaff ,sk ??

    seems like the sweater i bred of jerry duprees hatch need to go back to hatch 3/4 for the heel , but this year i bred the sweater , over my ibelle greys , now that is gtonna be interesting ,

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    Re: Sweater crosses in gaff ,sk ??

    For sk kelso, ylh, hatch idk know about gaff but as long it has power

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    Re: Sweater crosses in gaff ,sk ??

    There are a lot of people using sweater in mexico. Kelso, Rhd, Hatch, YLH, Greys, albany

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    Re: Sweater crosses in gaff ,sk ??

    Our blackwater sweater has crossed good onto kelso, radio and performed well pure..

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    Re: Sweater crosses in gaff ,sk ??

    good sweaters are like all other breeds don't need to be crossed..

    and like every other breed it depends on how yours fight.. if there fast cutting fowl with no accuracy.. .cross them to a good family of round heads with brains/cutting/accuracy...

    if there accurate fast and cut good but sull up.. cross them to a good dead game family of hatch...

    you breed in the stuff you need... not the name.. what ever gets the W is what matters..

    but thats just how i see it

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    Re: Sweater crosses in gaff ,sk ??

    Can't agree more Hrd Shuffle thats the bottom line

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    if gaff were legal ud need something to add bottom like a hatch or whitehackle

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    Re: Sweater crosses in gaff ,sk ??

    Quote Originally Posted by keysaw View Post
    if gaff were legal ud need something to add bottom like a hatch or whitehackle
    i agree you with keysaw, buy i would also cross them to albany.

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    Re: Sweater crosses in gaff ,sk ??

    our possum sweater bloodlines from blackwater are winning fast with deep cutting in sk!

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    Re: Sweater crosses in gaff ,sk ??

    I'm not much of a sweater or a lk fan.. Back when it was legal if we put up a show in the gaff, the roosters would not stand around for two or three minutes.. They would be burning a trail to get to that other line.. I'm sure sweaters are good cutters but not sure they would have gone the distance in the gf.. It's just my opinion but you have fowl that were good in the lk, then you have fowl that were good in sk and gf but it was a whole different fighting style.. It's just whatever you prefered.. I'm not taking anything away from the sweaters just not my type of fowl..

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    Just wondered i dont like lk but a friend offered the use of a four time lk show winner as a brood cock i dont own any sweaters but i was at another friends house who shows only gaff fowl and he had several sweaters just currious if anyone had tried maybe a hatch sweater or a murphy sweater in the gf

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    I think that would work Murphy Sweater, Hatch Sweater, Grey Sweater, Rhd Sweater, Radio Sweater etc etc they will add speed to them but hope they aren't dunghill sweater or your in trouble. Ylh Sweater also.

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    Re: Sweater crosses in gaff ,sk ??

    We cross our sweaters to lyh & gilmore's, the show well either way I think the gilmore's are my favorite... They have turned out just like Chris & Carol said.

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    Re: Sweater crosses in gaff ,sk ??

    I cross mine to stewart ylh, & gilmore.. I think I like the gilmores the best...

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    Re: Sweater crosses in gaff ,sk ??

    mason you are probably fanatic of BW fowls. I am glad you are happy with them. I would also cross mine to RH, Albany, kelso, and hatch to spice it up.

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    Re: Sweater crosses in gaff ,sk ??

    Mason, one quetion?
    Yoy breed cock Gilmore to sweater hen or viceversa ? whcih is the best of the above, thanks so much

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    Re: Sweater crosses in gaff ,sk ??

    Is there any advantage useing sweater over murphy or would u b better off useing murphy kelso or murphyroundhead

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    Re: Sweater crosses in gaff ,sk ??

    I tell you what get a hold of a family of Lacy's that weigh around 5lbs a little dirty feet pea combed with a rare straight comb now or then no white feathers now use the straight comb over some of Dinks 5 thousand Sweater hens

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    my family of murphy is a great family knock bark off a tree and cut just like to get neck and neck you hit me and ill hit you harder. add some speed fowl and there you go easy .

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    Re: Sweater crosses in gaff ,sk ??

    i think i will try to put a Murphy WhiteHackle blood cross to Sweater - it will add more Flight, Vertical -"Angat or Salto" to Sweaters. I think RED GameFarm already tested this crosses of Sweater to WhiteHakcle & make it as a Success better than their Sweater Kelso crosses or to their Sweater Gilmore crosses.

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    Re: Sweater crosses in gaff ,sk ??

    Quote Originally Posted by Wildfire73 View Post
    I'm not much of a sweater or a lk fan.. Back when it was legal if we put up a show in the gaff, the roosters would not stand around for two or three minutes.. They would be burning a trail to get to that other line.. I'm sure sweaters are good cutters but not sure they would have gone the distance in the gf.. It's just my opinion but you have fowl that were good in the lk, then you have fowl that were good in sk and gf but it was a whole different fighting style.. It's just whatever you prefered.. I'm not taking anything away from the sweaters just not my type of fowl..
    Im with you Wildfire73, never had any sweater but from what I seen ,they have a tough time going two hours in the drag with a hatch butcher , I would have to see it.they come out fast but the gaff is a different deal. you got to go the distance sometimes.

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    Re: Sweater crosses in gaff ,sk ??

    black water when legal won many gaff derbies with there sweaters some of the biggest derbies i might add 7 cock so it depends on the source. An "you" the breeder/handler are the major role player in this you can ruin a bird and always have an excuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sucess gamefarm View Post
    black water when legal won many gaff derbies with there sweaters some of the biggest derbies i might add 7 cock so it depends on the source. An "you" the breeder/handler are the major role player in this you can ruin a bird and always have an excuse.
    True sir, True, I wont argue that point.Im just saying most of the sweaters and crosses in the competitons of old that I seen more times than not come out heels first from the drag pit. The handlers many times determine the outcome of the old gaff fights especially in the drag. thanks for the info.

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    i crossed the sweater on johnny bennet grays show them in the gaff the first one went over a hour in the drag and won. his full brother passed out like he was dead and did not get hit carred him out of the pit layed him down on the ground he open hes eyes got up and ran off very smart sweater.lol

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    Re: Sweater crosses in gaff ,sk ??

    I think ill leave the sweater to the lk boys

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    Re: Sweater crosses in gaff ,sk ??

    Quote Originally Posted by Outlaw greys View Post
    I think ill leave the sweater to the lk boys
    good choice

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    Outlaw what kind of grey is ir avitar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard_Shuffle View Post
    good sweaters are like all other breeds don't need to be crossed..

    and like every other breed it depends on how yours fight.. if there fast cutting fowl with no accuracy.. .cross them to a good family of round heads with brains/cutting/accuracy...

    if there accurate fast and cut good but sull up.. cross them to a good dead game family of hatch...

    you breed in the stuff you need... not the name.. what ever gets the W is what matters..

    but thats just how i see it
    i got some sweaters that cut with speed accuracy and power and dont sull up will stay to the end in the spur ,i thought ilke every body else did about sweaters till i raised some up outta the line i got lol ,it takes a hell of a rooster to get past a few pits with them and if ya get lucky enuff to hurt them dont count yer chickens cause you have to kill every feather on these .they are heavyer boned and not as pretty as most of the sweaters you see people with .they come with white streamers and throw a green legged pullet now and again and are a dream come true fis stillbreaking

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