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    Last week, I was in Tennessee, and, among other topics, addressed the need for lawmakers to fortify the state’s anemic anti-cockfighting law. I singled out Rep. Frank Niceley, the chair of the House Agriculture Committee, who has repeatedly blocked the legislation. Rep. Niceley has called cockfighting a Southern tradition and cited its value in promoting tourism.

    In some ways, Niceley is right. Anemic cockfighting laws are a draw. Raid after raid—including federal raids of major Tennessee pits—turns up a harvest of out-of-state cockfighters in search of some sort of amnesty program. Is that really the kind of tourism that Rep. Niceley wants—roving bands of rag-tag cockfighters flocking to the Volunteer State so they can sidestep their home state’s stronger penalties?
    Kathy Milani/The ****

    The state that gets the prize, however, for the weakest anti-cockfighting law is Alabama, where the maximum fine is $50. The penalty is unchanged from 1896, when the law was enacted and when $50 actually meant a little something. The **** has worked with media outlets to expose the large, semi-underground cockfighting subculture in the state, in order to demonstrate to lawmakers that our concern is not just an abstract one.

    As in Tennessee, some high-level officials in Alabama have demonstrated an unusual level of tolerance for cockfighting. One agriculture extension specialist from Auburn University told the Decatur newspaper last week that the sale of fighting roosters to foreign markets generates important commerce for Alabama. This individual failed to mention that the sale of fighting roosters to any other nation is a federal felony.

    It seems there’s something of a relationship between Auburn and the state’s leading cockfighting organization. In 2007, it came to light that Auburn’s veterinary college received “continuing support” from the Alabama Gamefowl Breeders Association (AGBA), the state’s leading voice for the cockfighting community.

    This is the same AGBA that an **** investigative consultant documented was raising money and selling memberships at an illegal cockfighting pit in Chilton County earlier this year. That pit was shut down by the local sheriff just a few weeks after we infiltrated the pit. And it’s the same outfit that spends tens of thousands of dollars each year for lobbyists to stop any efforts to pass a stronger cockfighting law.

    The Decatur story goes on to quote Dr. Tony Frazier, the Alabama state veterinarian, as saying he was supportive of the last year’s anti-cockfighting bill, and that’s a good thing. But Dr. Frazier also indicated that he had solicited an outside group to help find homes for roosters seized in a recent cockfighting raid. And that group was, again, the Alabama Gamefowl Breeders Association, which is nothing but a front group for cockfighters.

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    uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! he makes me mad!!!!!!!!

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    The Decatur story goes on to quote Dr. Tony Frazier, the Alabama state veterinarian, as saying he was supportive of the last year’s anti-cockfighting bill, and that’s a good thing. But Dr. Frazier also indicated that he had solicited an outside group to help find homes for roosters seized in a recent cockfighting raid. And that group was, again, the Alabama Gamefowl Breeders Association, which is nothing but a front group for cockfighters.

    The Alabama Gamefowl Breeders Association is an organized criminal association. No state veterinarian or respected university should get close to it, and they certainly ought not support it or consort with it. And it’s precisely when lawmakers or other state or university officials get mixed up with these people that we get such feeble policies with respect to illegal animal fighting.

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    alabama gamefowl breeders association is organized criminal association that sob should know he leads the largest organized criminal association in the world!!!!!if anything thing is feeble its his mind!!!

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    I pray that Wayne Pacelle dies in a fire...........

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    hes going end up in one!!!!!!! not on earth either!!!!!

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    he says he has no relationship with animals his own words but he does have a very close relationship with money.all they are is organized crime and he is their al capone.falkor if he caught fire around me i would not pizz on him to put him out.

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    Article in Tennessean today calling for tougher animal cruelty laws in Tennessee. Guess who? Also a poll wanting vote on wheather we need tougher laws . Think we peed him off or what?

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    The sad thing is, if idiots like the **** were concerned about human trafficking and child abuse as much as they supposedly care for animals they would be hanging the people doing the crimes and putting an end to it.

    The reality is, they do not care about human life and they value a chicken above the life of a human. It is either that, or it is a big money making scam that they are putting on the American sheeple or possibly a little of both.

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    He knows we are coming after his money thats why is is doing this even more now. So that just goes to show that we all have to work together on this. If you all think about all the bad names he has called us and all the farms he has shut down (bring down the economy) , it sounds like a Class Action Law Suit for slander and and he is in violation of the Federal Animal Enterprize Terrorism Act.
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    This is exactly what he has done to everyone who raises gamefowl!
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    Maybe not in "a" fire... But eternity "in" fire...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mason Farms View Post
    Maybe not in "a" fire... But eternity "in" fire...

    I hope for both and I definitely would not piss on the poor excuse of a man if he were on fire, but I might add a bit of fuel to the fire

    His agenda is nothing but profit, it is very apparent, they do not house any animals "rescued" they destroy nearly all of them. His goals and dreams are to eradicate the earth of all pets and livestock and in the meantime become filthy rich, this man is the devil.
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    Well hes no real man cause he dont eat meat!

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    What a shame... All the wasted time & man hours, tax dollars etc... The whole mess, like there's nothing more important they could be doing wth their time & money...

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    Here is the Federal act and is exactly what he is doing as well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_..._Terrorism_Act

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mason Farms View Post
    What a shame... All the wasted time & man hours, tax dollars etc... The whole mess, like there's nothing more important they could be doing wth their time & money...
    hey brother,, i tell you whats a shame they are probaly millions and millions of meat eatin good hearted american citizens and hundreds of thousands of cockers out there and only a few vegan animal lovin demons and they are havin their way with us because we dont take precious time out of our day to try to defeat them!!! we are the ones that are to blame for all that he is doin because if we would have stop this bull we wouldn be in this shape right now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitmonkey!!! View Post
    hey brother,, i tell you whats a shame they are probaly millions and millions of meat eatin good hearted american citizens and hundreds of thousands of cockers out there and only a few vegan animal lovin demons and they are havin their way with us because we dont take precious time out of our day to try to defeat them!!! we are the ones that are to blame for all that he is doin because if we would have stop this bull we wouldn be in this shape right now!
    Hit thats exactly the problem, if everyone was to sell two cocks or stags and put the money in a bank fund to go towards a Class Action lawsuit we could do something...

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    i will donate a couple stags for the cause and a box of matches for falkor.all kiddin aside i will give a couple good stags.we could set up some auctions and use the money.

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    Does anyone personally know the person that own's Oakridge Gamefarm auction? I'd be glad to call him and talk to him about setting up a auction for this cause...

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    i can set up the auction if you will handle the money end of it.

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    I would most certainly donate livestock, time, effort whatever to a cause that has a firm goal in mind that is sensible. You guys come up with a solid plan of action and a trustworthy treasurer and I for one will stand behind it 100%. I think hiring a good attorney that would be on the farmers side would be very beneficial, however I would like to be updated on his plans and know exactly where every penny is going. One question I keep asking myself is, would it be better to start on a state level in a state with a big population of farmers and gamefowl breeders or would it be best to attack the issue on a country wide level? Or would it be best to just go after the H$US itself and other "animal rights" organizations?
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    thats why i want someone else to handle the money im like wayne when it comes to money.i just aint able to stay on top of the money deal some days i stay in bed all day ( bad back ) it will take someone that can stay on top of it every day
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    I will contact a few people and see what we can come up with and give an update by next week...

    Blades Oakridge should donate the auction for free for what the cause is and just charge for the fowl and shipping! We can set up a paypal account to go directly in to a bank account that can only be touched by a trustworthy treasurer and can be view by all that are involved at all times.

    Falkor it needs to be done on a country wide level, it has effected us all...
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    yea the amount for the item should be sent to the account and the shipping sent to the seller to keep them seperate.i have an account with oakridge i will check with them.

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    Can't fight back whit out money , so that seems like a good idea gentlemen..but there's gotta be more than one donation to raise enough money to actually accomplish something ......

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    Vic we are working on that part now...

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    it just blows my mind!!!! how strong he has become!!!!! and how many people are against him and dont even know it just watch tv u see these huntin shows payin thousands of dollars to these ranches where is the hunters and the ranches donations? the sponsors of these hunters honda,polaris,yamaha,bad boy,remington,winchester,savage,thompson center,buck knives,case,matthews,pse,chevy,ford,dodge,jeep,and on and on then you have these cookin shows they all cookin tyson chicken and pork and beef where are all those big time meat farmers donations? this whole situation just blows my mind how all these corporate people could wrap them up and burn them in 100 dollar bills and then write it off in taxes and be done with these quacks but no they dont even give a dam!!!!!! these vegans are nothin but a minority tellin the majority what to do!!! im so sick of it!!! if i was a billionaire he would be shut down i would spend every dime i had to see to it!!!!!

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    Guys can you all name these shows and I will contact them and see what they have to say. Thanks p.s. I dont have cable so I dont know what shows are on now a days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGG JOE View Post
    Article in Tennessean today calling for tougher animal cruelty laws in Tennessee. Guess who? Also a poll wanting vote on wheather we need tougher laws . Think we peed him off or what?
    Do you have the link so we can go vote in the poll

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    i watch it tonight and write all of them down and send it to you,, they have commercials on there showin them freaks tryin to stop dove huntin and bear huntin hell the other night i seen em show were in brittish columbia they was buyin the land up and stoppin the huntin on it because they couldnt lawfully stop the right to hunt em what the hell is goin on with people? i wouldn sell them a big enough plot of my land to bury a dam grasshopper!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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