Page 124 of 207 FirstFirst ... 2474114119120121122123124125126127128129134174 ... LastLast
Results 3,691 to 3,720 of 6200

Thread: Chicken Knives, Tari, Slasher - tying, sharpening etc

  
  1. #3691
    Senior Member slwnstdy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Sydney, Oz
    Posts
    2,424
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Chicken Knives, Tari, Slasher - tying, sharpening etc

    Quote Originally Posted by jailbird View Post
    I will be having my next Kinkelder disk cut by waterjet next week. Doc Nino is getting 18 pieces. Im hoping to cut 38 to 42 pieces from one disc. There should be at least 20 more left from which I intend to make my cock knives.
    Anything in particular to change in this set against the "stag" knives? I have been using the same ones I made for the stags and its weird that only my stags broke a couple of garols

  2. #3692
    Senior Member jailbird's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Paranaque
    Posts
    4,860
    Post Thanks / Like
    Im going to make the base a bit wider. As I expect my cocks to drive them a bit deeper. This will also allow me to use them as stag knives next year :-) even after 4 to 5 regrinds.

    Im akso making a whole set of right hand knives. Im going to use that as a partida to convince or attract more opponents to fight us with even sized or smaller birds :-) its getting more difficult to get matched in the hacks nowadays.

    I think you got a batch of defective forks. I have not had any fork breakages even using my stag knives on the cocks/bullstags.
    Since we all have the same source - di ba? - I resolved to check each one by one before use.
    Last edited by jailbird; January 25th, 2013 at 03:41 PM.

  3. #3693
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    69
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Chicken Knives, Tari, Slasher - tying, sharpening etc

    hello sir. jailbird I show in the short knife and if u want to test your birds for cutting i think the short knife is a great tool alot of fights around hear don't last more than 1 minute cus they cut the other bird to ribbons. even with a 1 inch knife u can make huge cuts I mean huge and when both birds are really cut up they still have the tenacity and will to kill to get the job done just my 2 cents phxsuns

  4. #3694
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    69
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Chicken Knives, Tari, Slasher - tying, sharpening etc

    And also don't test a stag for gameness he hasn't got there mentally and will almost all the time run

  5. #3695
    Senior Member slwnstdy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Sydney, Oz
    Posts
    2,424
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Chicken Knives, Tari, Slasher - tying, sharpening etc

    Quote Originally Posted by Phxsuns View Post
    And also don't test a stag for gameness he hasn't got there mentally and will almost all the time run
    That's interesting. Ernest also suggests to wait until at least 18months old...But Jailbird and I are planning to use stags...because I personally dont want them to moult if they cant cut it. Secondly we fight a lot of stags so they have to be game enough at 9 months..Lastly, we have no other ones to test as cocks, save a couple of broodcocks

    BTW, in the stag derbies that we have, you are allowed to back off from a fight if your stag refuses to fight before it is heeled. I guess in recognition that stags do get mentally unstable and will refuse to fight.

  6. #3696
    Senior Member The Saint's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    667
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Chicken Knives, Tari, Slasher - tying, sharpening etc

    Quote Originally Posted by jailbird View Post
    I will be having my next Kinkelder disk cut by waterjet next week. Doc Nino is getting 18 pieces. Im hoping to cut 38 to 42 pieces from one disc. There should be at least 20 more left from which I intend to make my cock knives.
    Wow. Sana you can wait a week more sir so i can piggy back with you

  7. #3697
    Senior Member jailbird's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Paranaque
    Posts
    4,860
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by The Saint View Post
    Wow. Sana you can wait a week more sir so i can piggy back with you
    Mu office is not too far from the waterjet place sp my driver can just bring it. I have always just forgotten to do so past few weeks. So anytime you want your blades cut just let me know.

  8. #3698
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    69
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Chicken Knives, Tari, Slasher - tying, sharpening etc

    Quote Originally Posted by slwnstdy View Post
    That's interesting. Ernest also suggests to wait until at least 18months old...But Jailbird and I are planning to use stags...because I personally dont want them to moult if they cant cut it. Secondly we fight a lot of stags so they have to be game enough at 9 months..Lastly, we have no other ones to test as cocks, save a couple of broodcocks

    BTW, in the stag derbies that we have, you are allowed to back off from a fight if your stag refuses to fight before it is heeled. I guess in recognition that stags do get mentally unstable and will refuse to fight.
    I wold always test the brood fowl for gameness if the broodfowl don't cut it what would u expect from the offspring MHO

  9. #3699
    Senior Member ernest akins's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    Feyattville, TN
    Posts
    574
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Chicken Knives, Tari, Slasher - tying, sharpening etc

    Quote Originally Posted by jailbird View Post
    Partner yup sometimes I think its best just to stay in this thread where every idea regarding weaponry and how to max their usefulness is welcome. Anyways sometimes expecting to learn from other threads we venture to post ideas and solicit and appreciate inputs. And at times we get embroiled in issues we are not interested in only because we read items that seem to pertain to us.

    From now on lets just stick to weaponry and weapons design testing and maintenance and actual fights. As far as im concerned thats about it.

    After all the breeding and other experimentations are done, I hope everyone brings their birds to the sessions so we could test them in the pit.

    The weapons for testing can also be specialized. Weapons for gameness testing. Weapons for testing cut. Weapons for testing endurance.
    But one type of gameness that Ernest mentioned : a rooster with the desire to kill even with his entrails hanging out of his belly - I really dont know how we can do that one.
    Sir, if you'll use just 1 1in. knife, you'll see a lot of guts hanging out, a longer knife will kill them to quick, the 1in knife will tare the guts out, its far more deadly than most Philippino's think if it's tied right.
    ufis/Ernest

  10. #3700
    Senior Member jailbird's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Paranaque
    Posts
    4,860
    Post Thanks / Like
    Thanks Ernest and Phxsuns. I think the fights in the ongoing WSC highlight the importance of gameness, cut and smarts.

    It seems that birds with deep cutting ability and the smarts are of a great premium in bringing in the wins. A fast and deep cutting bird is the single most important winning trait. The smarts to time his blows and avoid damage is like an insurance policy. With a dead or dying opponent a fighter that has no scratch has no reason to lose.

    But it also takes gameness to salvage a draw or ensure the win. A lack of gameness, however, can manifest in a crucial point of the game and cost us a win.

    Cutting (fast and deadly); Smarts (knowing when to inflict maximum damage and stay away from harm; and lastly, Gameness to fight and fight to the very end.
    Last edited by jailbird; January 26th, 2013 at 06:26 PM.

  11. #3701
    Senior Member slickwizzard's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    1,103
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Chicken Knives, Tari, Slasher - tying, sharpening etc

    this is very true in every fight,so constant pit testing/tari-tari session is of importance.another would be selection and record keeping,keeping also healthy fowls and culling the so so.




    Quote Originally Posted by jailbird View Post
    Thanks Ernest and Phxsuns. I think the fights in the ongoing WSC highlight the importance of gameness, cut and smarts.

    It seems that birds with deep cutting ability and the smarts are of a great premium in bringing in the wins. A fast and deep cutting bird is the single most important winning trait. The smarts to time his blows and avoid damage is like an insurance policy. With a dead or dying opponent a fighter that has no scratch has no reason to lose.

    But it also takes gameness to salvage a draw or ensure the win. A lack of gameness, however, can manifest in a crucial point of the game and cost us a win.

    Cutting (fast and deadly); Smarts (knowing when to inflict maximum damage and stay away from harm; and lastly, Gameness to fight and fight to the very end.

  12. #3702
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    751
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Chicken Knives, Tari, Slasher - tying, sharpening etc

    Quote Originally Posted by jailbird View Post
    In another thread they call it the ventajoso - in Ilonggo that means advantageous. Obviously they consider that an advantage. But a no no for the rat tail and Luna or crescent shapes - simply because you get more back of knife hits when the points are too high. Those seem to be best for medium ot low point blades.
    I saw two botana settings at Sir Tiny's place, one with a thicker bottom padding and one with a thicker upper padding. According to the video and the card that comes with it, the botana with a thicher upper pading are for gringo/ american fowls/ hatches while the botana with a thicher lower padding is for flyers.

    Hope this helps.

  13. #3703
    Senior Member jailbird's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Paranaque
    Posts
    4,860
    Post Thanks / Like
    Dong let me know when you and Tiny can have roosters for SK test fights. Arnold has a couple and I have a few I will spare before putting them in the off season broodpen.

    We can do test s for optimal kill time and also do some gameness tests on potential broodfowl. So far dulled edge but pointed SK and dulled point gaffs seem to be the ideal gameness/cut tools.

    Gauging from the draw fight rooster we had las jan 18 - its going to be difficult to make them recover fast. I think we may need to have them molt first after pit testing for gameness.

    If we do severe testing for gameness we can also do it with a much smaller group. Only those willing to test their broodfowl will be invited. And results will only be private among the testers.

  14. #3704
    Senior Member slickwizzard's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    1,103
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Chicken Knives, Tari, Slasher - tying, sharpening etc

    when will be the gameness test?i would like to field 1 stag,he is reserved as a substitute broodcock.


    Quote Originally Posted by jailbird View Post
    Dong let me know when you and Tiny can have roosters for SK test fights. Arnold has a couple and I have a few I will spare before putting them in the off season broodpen.

    We can do test s for optimal kill time and also do some gameness tests on potential broodfowl. So far dulled edge but pointed SK and dulled point gaffs seem to be the ideal gameness/cut tools.

    Gauging from the draw fight rooster we had las jan 18 - its going to be difficult to make them recover fast. I think we may need to have them molt first after pit testing for gameness.

    If we do severe testing for gameness we can also do it with a much smaller group. Only those willing to test their broodfowl will be invited. And results will only be private among the testers.

  15. #3705
    Senior Member jailbird's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Paranaque
    Posts
    4,860
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by slickwizzard View Post
    when will be the gameness test?i would like to field 1 stag,he is reserved as a substitute broodcock.
    Any saturday of the month would be fine.

  16. #3706
    Senior Member slickwizzard's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    1,103
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Chicken Knives, Tari, Slasher - tying, sharpening etc

    sir Jeb,just post the exact date and i will be there.

  17. #3707
    Senior Member jailbird's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Paranaque
    Posts
    4,860
    Post Thanks / Like
    Ho Yancey, ill check my work calendar and ill post the next available date for us.

    We can have gameness testing fights and also Kanan tari fights ;-)

    I was intrigued by the pasig derby of gaffers - walang kaliwaan. Just kanan tari using left leg knives.

  18. #3708
    Senior Member slwnstdy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Sydney, Oz
    Posts
    2,424
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Chicken Knives, Tari, Slasher - tying, sharpening etc

    Quote Originally Posted by jailbird View Post
    Ho Yancey, ill check my work calendar and ill post the next available date for us.

    We can have gameness testing fights and also Kanan tari fights ;-)

    I was intrigued by the pasig derby of gaffers - walang kaliwaan. Just kanan tari using left leg knives.
    Jeb, try to make it after 23rd Feb if possible we have stag fights then and will definitely have candidates after that.

    Found a 2.4kg stag even if he goes down to 2.250 or 2.3kg might be too brittle for that weight class as that family is best at 1.9-2.0kg. So a candidate for the 2.3kg stag you have? Great for SK I guess...

    My 1.6kg stag was left in the range so that one maybe for March, but will continue to look. Have a bullstag BC still in the pens 2.3kg ok for March too.

    Larga, post the date and I will PM you my candidates, gameness testing, SK testing, gaff testing whichever...SLW

  19. #3709
    Senior Member WHEL's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Posts
    518
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Chicken Knives, Tari, Slasher - tying, sharpening etc

    sir JB please keep us posted... would like to help in the testing as i dont need to test pa since i dont have breed yet... will bring the blinker karambola hatch for your testing...
    smells like another tare2x session...

  20. #3710
    Senior Member jailbird's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Paranaque
    Posts
    4,860
    Post Thanks / Like
    I just realized im ok any saturday of feb.

    Sir Arnold if you like Feb 2 or Feb 9 ?

    It would be great if we can hold the session in a new venue. Sana Sir Tiny Meneses or Sir Nino Mabanta could host the fights. They have really 5 star facilities.

    Or maybe Sir Joey or sir Kit can make their places available?

    The more the merrier!
    Last edited by jailbird; January 28th, 2013 at 10:47 AM.

  21. #3711
    Senior Member slwnstdy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Sydney, Oz
    Posts
    2,424
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Chicken Knives, Tari, Slasher - tying, sharpening etc

    Quote Originally Posted by jailbird View Post
    I just realized im ok any saturday of feb.

    Sir Arnold if you like Feb 2 or Feb 9 ?
    Sorry Jeb, there's a Sabong.net Derby on Feb. 4 and we are organising something with the Bulacan breeding on the 3rd. So 2nd is out for me...am checking if a couple of stags (we just dubbed one of them) will be ready by the 9th. Post later...

  22. #3712
    Senior Member jailbird's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Paranaque
    Posts
    4,860
    Post Thanks / Like
    Ok sir am joining the bulangbulang of RGBA on Feb 4. Will just send a team in my behalf. Same with Feb 1 no pot of UCBA.

    My bro Jun na lang siguro. Im just an Internet cocker nowadays. Spent all of 15 minutes in the kamp the past 2 weeks hahahahaha

  23. #3713
    Senior Member jailbird's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Paranaque
    Posts
    4,860
    Post Thanks / Like
    By the way if and when we have the 2sk vs 1 lk test again I would love to test the double blade knives of Doc Nino.

  24. #3714
    Senior Member slwnstdy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Sydney, Oz
    Posts
    2,424
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Chicken Knives, Tari, Slasher - tying, sharpening etc

    Quote Originally Posted by jailbird View Post
    Ok sir am joining the bulangbulang of RGBA on Feb 4. Will just send a team in my behalf. Same with Feb 1 no pot of UCBA.

    My bro Jun na lang siguro. Im just an Internet cocker nowadays. Spent all of 15 minutes in the kamp the past 2 weeks hahahahaha
    Hahaha welcome to the club, at least your phone bills arent as bad as mine...next project is probably CCTV and business internet connection

    Anyway, have no stags for Feb 9, but have two candidates for SK testing. One Grey and one White (missing tail feathers and wing feathers). End of the line for me these two, wont make the grade in the derbies and just want them to fight for their keep, and for my gaffer to learn the proper way of SK tying with botanas and all...

    2 pledge birds from TeamSlw....

  25. #3715
    Senior Member jailbird's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Paranaque
    Posts
    4,860
    Post Thanks / Like
    Ok 2 birds from SlwnStdy for SK testing.

    I have couple of stags for gameness testing.

    Yancey, how many sir?

    Whel has a rooster also.

    Sir Tiny Meneses

    Dr. Nino Mabanta

    Dr. Jess Estrada

    The Saint "Jovie Sta Cruz"

    Sir Kit Cujo Soliman

    Sir Joey Hidalgo

    Sir Mark Bote

    Sir Dave SharpnSilver

    Sir Pigafetta

    MANG SERGE

    Banton Spur

    Sir Alexanderich

    Sir ZacDaddy

    Madam Chinarose

    Sir Ompong Plaza

    Sir Warlord Jim Chua

    Sirs Tonio and Mike Romulo - we hope you can grace the occassion.

    Sir Gengen and the UCBA team via dr Nino Mabanta :-)


    Guys please add to the list the names of those who have been attending and those who want to attend. My memory is all used up hahahaha.
    Last edited by jailbird; January 28th, 2013 at 12:18 PM.

  26. #3716
    Senior Member slickwizzard's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    1,103
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Chicken Knives, Tari, Slasher - tying, sharpening etc

    sir Jeb,1stag and 1bullstag for gameness test.

  27. #3717
    Senior Member jailbird's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Paranaque
    Posts
    4,860
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by slickwizzard View Post
    sir Jeb,1stag and 1bullstag for gameness test.
    Yippee !!!! Now ill know if those dang grades of mine will last a long drawn out fight!!! See you sir!

  28. #3718
    Senior Member slwnstdy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Sydney, Oz
    Posts
    2,424
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Chicken Knives, Tari, Slasher - tying, sharpening etc

    Quote Originally Posted by jailbird View Post
    Yippee !!!! Now ill know if those dang grades of mine will last a long drawn out fight!!! See you sir!
    Let me join the party...my White will be in SK and the grey I would like to test in short gaff (x2) 1.5in preferably....see if he can last as well

  29. #3719
    Senior Member jailbird's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Paranaque
    Posts
    4,860
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by slwnstdy View Post
    Let me join the party...my White will be in SK and the grey I would like to test in short gaff (x2) 1.5in preferably....see if he can last as well
    Hookay! Short knife with sharp point but dulled blade! Do we put a time limit? Will 20 minutes be brutal enough for our standards

    Anyone wants to use blunted gaffs as Ernest suggests?

    Having a time limit may sound sissy but we have to start somewhere. And we have to go home too hahahahahahaha
    Last edited by jailbird; January 28th, 2013 at 04:05 PM.

  30. #3720
    Senior Member slwnstdy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Sydney, Oz
    Posts
    2,424
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Chicken Knives, Tari, Slasher - tying, sharpening etc

    Quote Originally Posted by jailbird View Post
    Hookay! Short knife with sharp point but dulled blade! Do we put a time limit? Will 20 minutes be brutal enough for our standards

    Anyone wants to use blunted gaffs as Ernest suggests?

    Having a time limit may sound sissy but we have to start somewhere. And we have to go home too hahahahahahaha
    Haha I want my gaffer to know how to tie the SK with botanas/filtanas (remind me to buy a few from BantonSpur) so let's use the SK gathering dust in my gaff box.

    For the gaff test, those short gaffs from Rigoletto you just got should be right? Do you have two matching pairs? I would love to see the gaff fights on video, not much around these days for us to see....legally

Similar Threads

  1. chicken knives to hawaii
    By KRU808 in forum Chicken Talk
    Replies: 32
    Last Post: February 23rd, 2014, 02:43 PM
  2. Sharpening knives
    By blackdeath in forum Chicken Talk
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: February 21st, 2014, 05:46 AM
  3. Tari Sharpening
    By Gallos Locos in forum Chicken Talk
    Replies: 69
    Last Post: February 21st, 2014, 04:50 AM
  4. Sarawak Slasher Knives from Cebu
    By Daecox in forum Usapang Manok
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: August 25th, 2007, 08:33 AM
  5. engineering design of slasher knives
    By ninoy in forum Usapang Manok
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: April 25th, 2007, 12:34 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •