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    allen roundhead vs lacy roundhead

    Can anyone tell me the diffrence between a allen roundhead and the lacy roundhead?????

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    Re: allen roundhead vs lacy roundhead

    from my experience only the lacy seem to be more evasive and smarter where the allen seems to be more agressive both are good breeds i think the lacy was derived from the allen

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    thanks for the input Blades61, i know what you mean about the allen being agressive im trying to hold my 2 year old allen stag and he is very hard headed

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    Re: allen roundhead vs lacy roundhead

    Lacy is pearl legged all skills ,Allen yellow leg good bottom ground control .yea yea I know but but I got some that come both ways .spare me ,always an exception to the rule ,the two cross well together .

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    Re: allen roundhead vs lacy roundhead

    Got both. I do fairly well with the straight Allen's! Fast, smart, high breaking, and very fast! My Allen's are smart and untouchable on the ground.

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    Re: allen roundhead vs lacy roundhead

    just the same, the lacy's originated from the allens.

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    Re: allen roundhead vs lacy roundhead

    Depends on what lacy's your talking about. Theres still the origanal lacy blood out there that is darn near identical to an allen then there are ones that cam from george wood that had albany and claret infused that are a little differant and seem to be a little faster. Both are very good but i think there are less good allens left out there than lacy. I think the good lacy blood was distributed and sold to many more people than the allens or bruners. They seemed to be held on to a little more tightly. I personaly like the bruners the best but own all 3 and really like them all
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    Re: allen roundhead vs lacy roundhead

    i have bruner and lacy like butch i like the bruner better an old man around here years ago had some allens yellow legs dark red had a head like a small buzzard.i liked them a lot but could never get any they were fast and strong as a ox

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    Re: allen roundhead vs lacy roundhead

    thanks guys for the input

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    Re: allen roundhead vs lacy roundhead

    I prefer Lacy Roundhead powerful high breaker!

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    Re: allen roundhead vs lacy roundhead

    lacy flashy high breakers with nice cutting abilities as well cause theyre of the same descent...some say that if you get the straight comb LACY's you have to breed back to that because itll give you the GOOD one's...maybe its related to what sir Butch is saying the albany clarets....

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    Re: allen roundhead vs lacy roundhead

    Has anyone crossed the allens to the lacys if so how did that work out. I have the lacys and i love them very smart, fast and cut, Just seem to be lacking on bottom
    All when legal of course

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    Re: allen roundhead vs lacy roundhead

    Quote Originally Posted by DA3791 View Post
    Has anyone crossed the allens to the lacys if so how did that work out. I have the lacys and i love them very smart, fast and cut, Just seem to be lacking on bottom
    All when legal of course
    I cross roundhead families all the time with good success. I have allens that are heavy boned with great timing and alusive. They dont always look like the best chicken when sparring but always find there way home they are true ring generals and i cross them with lacy and bruner. It give them the high bred viger and speeds them up a little. I also have 2 lacy families, one is ruff agressive heavy boned more like a hatch to me. The otyer family is light boned high flying smart ring generals just lack a little power but when i cross the 2 families together i get the perfect lacy. The bruners i cross with everything they are just the best all around bird and make everything better.
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    Re: allen roundhead vs lacy roundhead

    I have lacys and have had them for years. They are high breakers all the time. Very smart they are always dodging licks, and one things i figured out over the years the lacys have a high chance of killing you in the first fly. I love crossing them on hatch.Im going to be trying them on my kelsos and brownreds this season.

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    Re: allen roundhead vs lacy roundhead

    Quote Originally Posted by steve T View Post
    Can anyone tell me the diffrence between a allen roundhead and the lacy roundhead?????
    Pure Allen on the left and Lacy on the right. They can be shown pure but cross great as well with my black japs as they have similar styles.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKVZdVhMQQ4&list=UUL7XifHfB0G0DzErJeJd61w& index=8&feature=plcp"]MOV04701 - YouTube[/ame]

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    Re: allen roundhead vs lacy roundhead

    hopefully could acquire either of the two more infos masters

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    Re: allen roundhead vs lacy roundhead

    Quote Originally Posted by 3rdGen View Post
    Pure Allen on the left and Lacy on the right. They can be shown pure but cross great as well with my black japs as they have similar styles.

    MOV04701 - YouTube
    can't really tell without slo-mo... but it looks like the Allen missed on the 1st fly, but clipped the Lacy one the 2nd fly... the Lacy got in on the 3rd fly, but it could be too late with the lk.

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    Re: allen roundhead vs lacy roundhead

    i have the lacy roundheads and i have had them for 7 years and i got them from my uncle who have been fighting them since the early 80's and they are awesome ground birds. This year i won two 5 cock derbys with them. they have power,speed,brains,and cut very damn good.

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    Re: allen roundhead vs lacy roundhead

    find a good whitehackle line and breed into you RH line. dilute it down in your breeding program and you will like what you get. Murphy's are my choice.

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    Re: allen roundhead vs lacy roundhead

    thats what im breeding my lacys to a morgan cock

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    Re: allen roundhead vs lacy roundhead

    Quote Originally Posted by newtogame2 View Post
    can't really tell without slo-mo... but it looks like the Allen missed on the 1st fly, but clipped the Lacy one the 2nd fly... the Lacy got in on the 3rd fly, but it could be too late with the lk.
    You got very good eye newt.

    The trait I wanted to emphasize in this short vid is the head back feet out reaching trait, which can be seen at 0:15 for the Allen and at 0:18 for the Lacy, for those who has an eye for winning traits.

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    Re: allen roundhead vs lacy roundhead

    Sirs can you help me???can you discribe the allen rh...??? I purchased the cock they said this was allen rh...and this is the picture of it. I do not know if it allen rh..???
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    Re: allen roundhead vs lacy roundhead

    I'm looking for a breeder of good Allens here in the states, if anybody can point me in the right direction please PM me...

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    Re: allen roundhead vs lacy roundhead

    In the video i actually think the lacy performed better becuase they're light om their feet and cut like hell. Thats what u see in the video the lacy moving and kicking

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    Re: allen roundhead vs lacy roundhead

    I have a family of frank Ellis lacy round head that I like go in guns ablazen never given the the other bird time to counter attack they have been beat though but its gonna cost you...all when legal though...but Allen and lacy are basically the same thang I think haven't seen meny Allen rh though.

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    Question Re: allen roundhead vs lacy roundhead

    Quote Originally Posted by winsomelosesome View Post
    I have a family of frank Ellis lacy round head that I like go in guns ablazen never given the the other bird time to counter attack they have been beat though but its gonna cost you...all when legal though...but Allen and lacy are basically the same thang I think haven't seen meny Allen rh though.
    Did you got your FRANK ELLIS RoundHeads from Mr. Sonny Poe?

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    [QUOTE=Tweety-Doo;4448912]Did you got your FRANK ELLIS RoundHeads from Mr. Sonny Poe?[/QUOT
    Naw I got them from my cuz

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    Re: allen roundhead vs lacy roundhead

    frank ellis...brother of jake recently passed away. frank was known for his brownreds. now who's to say that he didn't dip his lacys into the brunners. at that time they had to brunner familys. the winered brunners and lemon hackle brunners. of which his brother bred to and kept that family religious pure .and he was good friends and helped out when needed to donald fontenot. when donald's brunners needed to be boosted with brunner blood. jake's son should know......oh jakes son is named frank also.

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    Re: allen roundhead vs lacy roundhead

    Frank had lacys though only close friends of his got them and by inbreeding them you will see the alabama brown and reds color pop out his brother mostly had the brunners

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    Re: allen roundhead vs lacy roundhead

    Hello Steve!!! I'm getting ready to quit MSC in September and stay home to raise chickens again, haha. Those ALLEN ROUNDHEADS of Scotty are excellent and they are high station which is a big plus down in the Philippines. I will be using his Rubles too in my breeding program.

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