Is it leiper, blueface or gilmore ?
Is it leiper, blueface or gilmore ?
If your talking about the canadans roosters
cong. claude bautista calls the gary gilliam hatch as bonecrusher hatch but i haven't heard yet what type of hatch it is.
i've read an article about the bone crusher hatch before. if i remember it right, it was said that this bone crusher hatch is out of the jack walton hatch which is basically a ted mclean hatch.....
this is the info i got from Gary Gilliam when i spoke to him last year
it is a blend of : PENNY HATCH, GILMORE HATCH & LIEPER HATCH
this blend was made 25yrs ago... hope this helps ...
tripple hatch that's why they have so much power.
Bonecrushers is suppose to be a Leiper blend. But I wouldnt be rushing to get some of that blood. My friend got some and bred them and he was talking about how good they were. I was about to get some for myself also.
Then He tested them in the Stag derby last year. And BOY, Could they run or what! 3 out of 4 quit and almost broke the glass in the cockpit.
Now he calls them Bonerunner. lol. True story.
This happened in Bohol.
good running condition diay kaayo gaw victor...:lol:
good for olympics hahahaha
They should be called Gonecrasher Hatch...haha joke only!
so we can call them now GLASSCRASHER.:lol:
Victor you cant fight those as stags. Only his roundhead. I think that was his mistake not the fowl. Has he fought them as cocks? I think there better at 3 years
I think what the guys are more concerned of the just losing is the quick exit of the bloodline... Hatches are known to be foundation blood for gameness, maybe this one is too game, that he wants to play the track.
bonecrusher ha....maybe too much hatch...made them think thrice...
No he hasnt fought them as Cocks. I think, he got rid of them. This happened last yr. It was his 1st generation offsprings and they sparred like MONSTERS! They hit hard and are fast, explosive. They reminded me of my Magnums but were a bit more athletic.
We fight ALOT of Stags here in the p.i. Even more than cocks. Right now the Stag derby gives the MOST prestige to the breeder BY FAR.
For us, winning a big Stag derby like the Bakbakan or NGBA is bigger than winning the WSD.
So, we need Good birds for stags.
Maybe they are game when they're cocks. Just didnt like what I saw at that particular derby.
may be they were botak hatch...of G. Guilliam:lol:
have you tested ur magnum hatch in the stag derby?
They should have fought em(GlassCrusher) in Kentucky Derby or San LAzaro....hehehe
Yes, I know what you guys mean but most of the good hatch dont mature until later. Im sure you heard of early maturing fowl. Well rh is one of the early ones that Gary has and hatch on a whole is a later maturing fowl. Its like fighting a 10 year old boy at 10 months with these hatch.I have some that were hatched in Feburary that still wont show. Does this mean there dunghill I think not. I use to know of a democrat line that couldnt be fought until they were 3 year old and was one of the best. You might have to do the nut trick to see if there ready. Alot wont even do it till right before there first molt.
Bonecrusher Hatch are very game and powerful if you get the right ones. .penny-leiper
Sometimes if someone doesnt know how to take care or condition a cock they can make a ace into a dunghill.
Bone crusher line was created when Rat Graves and Gary Gillian were showing together, Rat coss the Leiper with the Pennys, he has until this days, and those roosters were so strong that literally "crush" hes opponents bones , Gillian ad some Gilmore blood and made hes own version, the original BC are the old blood Penny - Leiper from Rat Graves.
Originally Posted by oxfarm
this is how i also understand it to be, but with the exception that rat's version was also a hatch on hatch on hatch cross (3 way)
There are a couple diffrent families of this Bonecrusher....
1st is the Walton BoneCrusher hatch...
2nd/3rd/4th all revolve around Rat, Crow Graves and Gilliam...
somebody's at rat's right now and dropping by gary's place tomorrow maybe they could ask them both, for us, i'll ask them to inquire.Originally Posted by Smoke23
Last edited by nilodeleon; April 3rd, 2010 at 03:31 AM.
Here's the story about the original BoneCrusher Hatch, the ones from the Walton hatch family.Originally Posted by Smoke23
I know a fella that was just there... Very close with both brothers and he tells me they were just leiper penny crosses that all three used when they were once partners. Guess the Penny blood has it own story...Originally Posted by nilodeleon
you took the words right out of my mouthOriginally Posted by angus
Like every where thereīs stories for everything Iīm a good friend of Ratīs and he tell me why they ( Gary and him ) call this old bloods the Bone Crushers , and does not mean this are the only BC in the world is just a way of calling the crosses. When they start showing together Rat cross his Leipers with the Pennys , the old and originals bloods and show them, some times they broke some bones , this became very common and they start calling them the Bone Crusher , like you can see is a simple and common story like we all have one.
rat graves said it was gary who started it with his leiper, the penny and some gilmore.Originally Posted by oxfarm