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    Question Barker brood fowl - spangled kelso

    I aquired these fowl last year and im very impressed with them.... gentleman i bought them from got them from Mr. Barker in 2000.

    I know Mr. Barker recieved fowl from Cecil Davis when he passed but wasnt sure if the spangled fowl i have were any of Cecil's stuff or not. Ive seen Spangled Cecil Davis Kelso adds before in Gamecock. Has anyone else had any of these fowl? Come both WL and YL also SC and PC.... However i mostly get PC..... Buzz saws would be a nice sum up of their performance .... Come Red Spanlged but also get lighter Spangled colors which are just as good and really make the farm look good they always stand out
    http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/c...1812155857.jpg

    Any info would be greatly appreciated

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    Re: Barker brood fowl - spangled kelso

    Every kelso Pete barker had came from Cecil Davis I know for a fact and kept them pure the best you can as far as I know I have some but there not spangled they come dark red and white leg and pc and sc

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    Re: Barker brood fowl - spangled kelso

    Is Sohnny Poe's Kelso same or different?

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    Re: Barker brood fowl - spangled kelso

    Anyone shown these fowl when it was legal?

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    Re: Barker brood fowl - spangled kelso

    I seen Pete Barker win with some spangled peacombed birds back in the eightys he fought the 12 cock kemper tribute at Copperstate,don't recall his score but remember he did good I really wanted one of those birds that he fought.

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    Re: Barker brood fowl - spangled kelso

    Quote Originally Posted by TRIPLECFARMS View Post
    I aquired these fowl last year and im very impressed with them.... gentleman i bought them from got them from Mr. Barker in 2000.



    I know Mr. Barker recieved fowl from Cecil Davis when he passed but wasnt sure if the spangled fowl i have were any of Cecil's stuff or not. Ive seen Spangled Cecil Davis Kelso adds before in Gamecock. Has anyone else had any of these fowl? Come both WL and YL also SC and PC.... However i mostly get PC..... Buzz saws would be a nice sum up of their performance .... Come Red Spanlged but also get lighter Spangled colors which are just as good and really make the farm look good they always stand out
    http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/c...1812155857.jpg


    Any info would be greatly appreciated
    Pete Barker was my mentor back in early 1970's he and Cecil lived only few miles from each other I know Cecil got some In and In Kelso from Pete and they were friends so Pete had access to Cecils yard Pete set me up with a Handling gig with Cecil I handled some for him when Cecils son wasnt able to mostly at the old Big Bear facility that Granville Hester used to Run was oldest facility in AL when it finally shut down.Wasnt there when Cecil passed and I lost track of Pete Barker when he moved to Mexico so not much more can add.If you got Pete or Cecils Kelso they both had really good fowl.Also I took Katt Brazell some of the Kelso Blood I got from Cecil and he kept it till he passed they were very good ones the cock I started him with won 7 times befor he was 14 months old at Big Bear and set him up with some good hens I heard his sons ruined his fowl and got a bad Reputation But Katt was always straight up with me and had good fowl when he was running the farm. Charlie Eidt of Natchez MS had Clarets he called Buzz saws and they were good ones I saw him win with them crossed with Charlie Eidt Redquill in LA for many years I bred the Charlie Eidt RQ got them in 81 should have gotten the Buzzsaws too but hind sight is 20-20 and I didnt. I just let the RQ go last year only kept a trio for crossing and no longer have Kelso.So not trying to sell anything just commenting on some great cockers.-Jim
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    Re: Barker brood fowl - spangled kelso

    TTT these spangles are really impressing me.....

    Anyone else have this blood?

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    Re: Barker brood fowl - spangled kelso

    Quote Originally Posted by TRIPLECFARMS View Post
    TTT these spangles are really impressing me.....

    Anyone else have this blood?
    I had Pete's Kelso, which I got through James Pope. A friend still has some of them. James won COY ( Curley Top entry) with these and Jim Young's Kentucky Hatch. I won with them at Texoma and other smaller pits. Very good cocks. Later I saw some that came from Pete, thou good fowl weren't the quality of the ones James got from him.

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    Re: Barker brood fowl - spangled kelso

    Thanks for sharing..... im pretty happy with mine so far.....

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    Re: Barker brood fowl - spangled kelso

    I am pete's grandson and tracked down the last person who got pop pops birds before he got really ill and then passed. The guy has been keeping them as pure as he did. He is breeding me some and am just interested if there would be a market for them if i breed and sold them. What do y'all think?

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    Re: Barker brood fowl - spangled kelso

    Antone Have more information on the Pete Barker Kelsos? I know they're from the Cecil Davis strain but i want to know how Pete got them the way he wanted.

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    Re: Barker brood fowl - spangled kelso

    Anyone Have more information on the Pete Barker Kelsos? I know they're from the Cecil Davis strain but i want to know how Pete got them the way he wanted.

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    Re: Barker brood fowl - spangled kelso

    Quote Originally Posted by TRIPLECFARMS View Post
    I aquired these fowl last year and im very impressed with them.... gentleman i bought them from got them from Mr. Barker in 2000.

    I know Mr. Barker recieved fowl from Cecil Davis when he passed but wasnt sure if the spangled fowl i have were any of Cecil's stuff or not. Ive seen Spangled Cecil Davis Kelso adds before in Gamecock. Has anyone else had any of these fowl? Come both WL and YL also SC and PC.... However i mostly get PC..... Buzz saws would be a nice sum up of their performance .... Come Red Spanlged but also get lighter Spangled colors which are just as good and really make the farm look good they always stand out
    http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/c...1812155857.jpg

    Any info would be greatly appreciated


    Great looking fowl in your bucket.

    yunke8888

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    Re: Barker brood fowl - spangled kelso

    According to family and friends of Pete's he took a rooster home from cooper state or sunset I can't remember which one, a yellow legged red peacomb cock. Was rumored to be a sweater cock but back then I don't think it was the sweaters of today.

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    Re: Barker brood fowl - spangled kelso

    Quote Originally Posted by TRIPLECFARMS View Post
    According to family and friends of Pete's he took a rooster home from cooper state or sunset I can't remember which one, a yellow legged red peacomb cock. Was rumored to be a sweater cock but back then I don't think it was the sweaters of today.
    Just read this thread but in the other thread you posted I asked what type of kelso line these originated from. Anyways, you stated these speckled kelso are descended from cecel davis line. James Sylvester has these speckled kelso and he just one a big derby in Mexico crossed into his hatch fowl. They must add cut to other bloodlines because James Sylvester seems to win with his hatch/kelso fowl but can't with his pure hatch. At least that's my observation.

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    Re: Barker brood fowl - spangled kelso

    Quote Originally Posted by TRIPLECFARMS View Post
    According to family and friends of Pete's he took a rooster home from cooper state or sunset I can't remember which one, a yellow legged red peacomb cock. Was rumored to be a sweater cock but back then I don't think it was the sweaters of today.

    There are several families of fowl called Sweater with very little or nothing in common
    between them and most were not developed by Sweater. Most Sweater Red families
    were developed by other people, using a cock they had obtained from Sweater McG.

    The Sweater Grey family is a branch of the Madigan Regular Greys. Sweater
    got a trio or 2 of them when the Col. passed away. The WT Green's, Bob Bennet's
    & some other Regular Grey families, are offshoots of Sweater's Reg. Greys.

    WAK had a yard that he called, the Sweater yard because he had used at one time
    a Blue Face cock from Sweater on Murphy hens. The name stuck, but it does not
    have anything to do with the Modern Sweater fowl as we know them today.

    C Davis, used to walk large #s of stags & cocks for WAK. On several occasions
    WAK would send C D some hens with instructions to breed to a certain cock.
    When WAK dispersed his game fowl, C D kept several brood pens of "Kelso" fowl.

    CD kept pens of O + O's, Murphy's, Radio's, New Albany's & the Sweater-Kelso pen.

    Just what I have read thru the years.

    yunke8888

    Other than a few brood yards bred straight, out of the 30+ brood yards WAK kept,
    most were kept to produce battle cocks by constant X breeding & selection for
    performance.

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