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    Payton's Democrat's!!

    Does anybody know how he made his Democrats? How did he cross them?

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    Re: Payton's Democrat's!!

    I was told 5/8 claret 3/8 hatch

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    Re: Payton's Democrat's!!

    Heally, He sell's hatch claret's for $1000?

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    Re: Payton's Democrat's!!

    Quote Originally Posted by mcleanhatch1 View Post
    Does anybody know how he made his Democrats? How did he cross them?
    William McRae and Blondi Roland originated the Democrats.....not Payton

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    We crossed our pure Roland Democrat Hatch hens with our Philippine Lemon bc with success circa late 80's - late 90's. Their male version are Wine red feather color, and white feet with black spurs. Medium station. A multi-shuffle fighting machine hatch they are.

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    Re: Payton's Democrat's!!

    what i heard was blondie got the democrats for payton. and crossed them and call them blondie rolland democrats

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    Re: Payton's Democrat's!!

    It was Blondie who took his hatch and claret fowls to Mcrae had them bred.
    That was in the 1960's and election time in the US. Democrat, one of the big US political parties, the other is Republican.

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    Re: Payton's Democrat's!!

    So the blondie is hatch x claret x mcrae?
    Last edited by mcleanhatch1; May 22nd, 2012 at 01:07 PM. Reason: wrong words

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    Re: Payton's Democrat's!!

    Even Payton said he made the Democrat.

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    Re: Payton's Democrat's!!

    bobby got his democrat broodstocks from william mcrae

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    Re: Payton's Democrat's!!

    regardless..there not worth a crap, and even if they "were" or "Are" he's not going to send you the real stuff .. do some research on him

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    Re: Payton's Democrat's!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard_Shuffle View Post
    regardless..there not worth a crap, and even if they "were" or "Are" he's not going to send you the real stuff .. do some research on him
    My mentor Bill Cleary traded kelsos for democrats (with the Paytons) they were so slow you could time them with a hour glass.

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    Re: Payton's Democrat's!!

    i once payed a thousand for one it was the worst sparring meanest chicken alive a waste of money worthless but really pretty

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    I've had paytons democrats and the thing about them is if you don't know how to feed them they will not work with you . I had some that were the gamest chickens I've seen then I had some that were preety much garbige . They stress to easily and they just don't handel stress well . But if you get the hang of them they can be unstoppable

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    Re: Payton's Democrat's!!

    hmm, ive only had one democrat and he was just fine

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    Re: Payton's Democrat's!!

    i got some from ray a few years back that were far from fine

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    Re: Payton's Democrat's!!

    Quote Originally Posted by mcleanhatch1 View Post
    hmm, ive only had one democrat and he was just fine
    Yea but you see I gotum from bobby payton . I don't know were yall got yours from

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    Re: Payton's Democrat's!!

    Blondie Roland moved to Prattville, Alabama in 1954 and started fighting with Mr. E.P. (Ned) Toulmin and Mr. Elmer Griffin. They fought together until 1960. Mr. Elmer Griffin had gotten some good Hatch blood from J.D. Perry. Mr. Perry had gotten this blood from C.C. Cooke and Mr. E.W. Law while he was working for them in the mid 1940s. The Claret blood that made the other side of the strain came from Mr. Griffin. Mr. Griffin had gotten them from Mr. Madigin. Blondie Rollan took the Hatch and Claret fowl to Mr. McRae to be bred and raised on his farm in Dennis, Mississippi. He raised these and many other fowl for Blondie for several years. When Blondie took some of the stags from the Hatch Claret matings, to his place, in Prattville, Alabama, people coming by the farm to visit would comment on how beautiful they were and that they should have a name. At this time in the 1960s, Blondie was listening to the debates between Kennedy and Nixon. He decided to vote for Kennedy and named his beautiful new strand of fowl Democrats. Kennedy was a winner and so were the Democrats. The Democrats come light to dark red feathered, mostly green and yellow legs with an occasional blue legs, heavy plumage and stand very well and cut excellently. They are dead game. Paul Webster acquired his Democrats from Blondie and Mr. McRae in the early 1960s. Democrats have plenty of power, smart, with a determination to win. Even if they get hurt, they have the desire to come back and be a winner.
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    Democrats bred by Buddy and Bobby Payton of Alabama. Typically come yellow leg, dark red, heavy plumage, straight comb.

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    Re: Payton's Democrat's!!

    the ones i had i never liked at all been a few years back they came from ray alexander i called ray and told him how they were he said thats how they show so we left it at that i have his roundhead and like them as good as any i have ray was there when blondie named em.theres a video clip on here of ray telling it. i think you can go to search and punch in breeder of the week and find it.
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    Re: Payton's Democrat's!!

    Bama thats word for word what I just read in the Gamecock January 1987 issue. And that was written by Beverly Webster I guess that is Paul websters wife.

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    Re: Payton's Democrat's!!

    Quote Originally Posted by green leg hatch View Post
    Bama thats word for word what I just read in the Gamecock January 1987 issue. And that was written by Beverly Webster I guess that is Paul websters wife.
    Your exactly correct Beverly Webster is Paul Webster's wife.

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    Re: Payton's Democrat's!!

    If I'm not mistaken Blondie Rolland was Bobby & Buddy Payton's uncle.

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    Re: Payton's Democrat's!!

    theres a guy who shows locally that is good friends with him.. i will say i've seen some burners.. and i will say that i've seen more that should been in bull fights cause they were so low headed that it was just murder

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