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    Bloodlines and their fighting styles

    If you guys have a sparetime can you please tell me the different bloodlines and their characteristics in fighting, like orientals good in cutting and brownred or blackfowls in speed... I think this will be a great help for people like me who is new in breeding gamefowls... Im planning to make a chart of this bloodlines and their fighting styles and put it in my wall for future reference if ever i will buy a broodfowls..

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    Re: Bloodlines and their fighting styles

    I would like to know this also or if maybe there is a book out there ive seen on the gamecock dictionary of game strains maybe this book has this info does anybody know? Thank you in advance

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    Regular Grey

    Regular Grey is said to be a combination of three grey families: the Law Grey, the Sweater Gray and the Plainhead Muff Grey. Regular Greys come green legged, sometimes with yellow, silver duck wings and straight comb. They are medium to low-stationed, and are known for power and gameness. Breeders note that they are as powerful and dead game as the Bluefaces. Because of these, many breeders have made Regular Grey as their foundation line.

    McLean Hatch

    Modern Hatches are more high flying and are faster, many coming more brainy than usual. Their usual characteristics like power and gameness, though, are still there, their blows often packing a wallop. They are basically medium-stationed and peacombed with some coming straight combed.
    The Hatch blood came form Sanford Hatch who blended, as story goes, a Kearney Whitehackle with a Kearney Brown Red, mixing in other bloods like the Herman Duryea Boston Roundheads, Jim Thompson Mahoganies, among others, to come up with his signature Hatch fowl. From the Sandy Hatch stocks came Ted McLean’s version of Hatch that came both yellow and green-legged. Supposedly, these were the better Hatches that gave rise to the other variants of the McLean like Gilmore Hatch, Blueface Hatch, Jack Walton Hatch, Kentucky Hatch, Oakgrove Hatch, etc.

    Roundhead

    Peacombed, tall and white or yellow legged, Roundheads are considered as ring generals. They are characteristically flyers and agile all-around athletes with superb cutting ability. The most famous among the many Roundheads is the Lacy Roundhead, originated by Judge Lacy. There are other Roundhead families like the Bruners, Sheltons, Allen and Boston. It is widely believed that this family originated from the oriental fowl. They cross well with Clarets, Butchers, Greys, and of course, Hatches.

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    Oriental

    Shamos, Asils, Japs, Thais, Jolo, Basilan, Parawak – these are just some of the many types of oriental fowl. They are big headed, light-eyed, heavy boned, short and tight feathered and thickly shanked chickens. Very brainy and hardy, these chickens use an off-beat fighting style which twits the aggressive American type of gamefowl. Accurate body hitters and smart side-steppers, asils are usually graded up to an eighth or even a sixteenth with the American fowl in the hope of retaining the desirable cutting and off-beat traits of the Orientals in the resulting battlecrosss. Either you love them or you hate them – that’s the Oriental Fowl.

    Sweater

    Today, one is not considered “in” if he is not breeding the Sweater fowl. Yellow legged, peacombed, high stationed, sleek body conformation and with their characteristic pumpkin-orange hackle feathers and swarming offensive fighting style – Sweaters were popularized in the Philippines by Carol NeSmith who won the World Slashers International Derby back to back. As with many families, the origin of Sweater is mired by so many versions, some even contradictory. However, it is commonly accepted that this blood, as originated by Sweater McGinnis, is heavy on the Kelso blood. Today, the more well known Sweaters are those which come from Dink Fiar, Bruce Barnette, Nene Abello, Sonny Lagon, Atty. Jun Mendoza, Raffy Campos and Edwin Aranez, Bebot and Chionkee Uy, among many others.

    Kearney Whitehackle

    Kearney Whitehackle is one of the most solid bloodlines used as foundation stocks because of its unquenchable do-or-die gameness. Straight-combed red with the characteristic white underhackle feathers, the Kearney Whitehackle comes yellow legged and sometimes spangle-feathered. This bloodline is one of the gamest among the many Whitehackle subfamilies and is used only for infusion purposes to prop up any floundering bloodline.

    Butcher

    Phil Marsh is credited for creating the Butcher bloodline, which is a blend of Grove WhiteHackle and some Spanish fowl, the Speeder Greys. Calling them Butchers because of his occupation, Phil Marsh often fought under the entry name “Butcher Boys”.
    Butchers are straight-combed red that often come white-legged with some coming yellow-legged. They are known for their accurate cutting ability and brainy fighting style, leading many experts to say “when a Butcher hits you, you are hit”. Medium to low-stationed, Butchers sometime come spangled and brassback in color, with the latter presently called Black Butchers.

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    Blueface Hatch

    The Blueface Hatch, a special strain of Hatches, came to be known as such because of its pale-faced appearance, which is similar to the appearance of a fowl with Avian Leucosis. Blueface Hatches are so good that their originator, Sweater McGinnis, decided to breed them some more, with some ending up with Harold Brown, Billy Ruble, Red Richardson, Percy Flowers, William Greene and other American cocking greats. Straight-combed, green-legged and medium to low stationed, Bluefaces have carved a reputation for gameness. Used mainly for foundation blood purposes, old time breeders agree that the best battlecross carries only a quarter or less of the Blueface blood.

    Brown Red

    Brown Red has speed and more speed, with cutting to boot – the advantage of this dark fowl. Coming dark-legged, dark-eyed and with characteristic black feathering, this family is a sight to behold, since Brown Reds show more of the razzle-dazzle shuffling action type of fighting, although their drawback is their seeming lack of gameness and stamina. However, because of other infusions made by breeders, there already are Brown Reds that are game enough, lasting for more than 10 minutes. In the drag fight, these fighters are defensive and very calculating, uncharacteristic of a typical Brown Red.

    Lemon 84

    Originated by the legend Paeng Araneta, Lemon 84 has become the base used by most Bacolod breeders. Until presently, this line is still winning. Basically from the Hatch-Butcher-Claret blends of the late Duke Hulsey, Paend has been able to create subfamilies from the original stocks.
    Lemon 84 (called as such because the original brood cock had legband number 84) comes lemon hackled, peacombed or straight-combed and yellow and green-legged. Although lacking in gameness, Lemon 84 makes up for it with its almost automatic, instinctive and precise sense of timing when it clips the opponent in mid-air and throws his fatal punches or counterpunches. This is its most sought-after trait despite its medium or low station.

    Muff

    Eerie looking because of the feathers on its face, the Muff is known for its aggressive frontal fighting style. Muffs throw a barrage of blows with no letup or billhold. Although low-stationed, Muffs have an unerring sense of accuracy when it comes to the cutting department. Basically red in color, they come yellow-legged and peacombed. Noted breeders of this family are Billy Ruble, John Sears and Dr. John Kozura.

    Pyle

    Pyle is a plumage color that denotes one that is not red, grey or black. Pyles come white, blue, dom, off-white, off-grey or off-red colors. They are white-legged or yellow-legged and straight or peacombed.
    They are known for their high flying style and accurate cutting. Many are not deep game as Hatch or Whitehackle, but there are Pyles that are as game. Currently, they are crossed with the sturdy and hardy lines to hopefully strike the perfect blend of fighting characteristics

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    Re: Bloodlines and their fighting styles

    Could someone please give me some info
    About Mr. Roger Brooke's "hammer time hatch"
    How are they all round

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    Re: Bloodlines and their fighting styles

    sorry for posting in Tagalog. i didnt notice that this is an english thread. by the way my question was are there physical differences in all the bloodlines? i mean if i have a roster or a hen, can you really tell what bloodline it is just by looking at it? if there is the can you guys share how to tell how.
    Thanks!

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    I dont think what anyone can look at a hen or cock and know the exact bloodline of fowl it is! But you can generally know if it has hatch blood, black blood, oriental blood or speed blood by looking at the comb, legs, coloring and stands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perfect-Gull View Post
    I dont think what anyone can look at a hen or cock and know the exact bloodline of fowl it is! But you can generally know if it has hatch blood, black blood, oriental blood or speed blood by looking at the comb, legs, coloring and stands.
    thank you for the reply, for hatch it has dark legs right? what does the legs, body, coloring, comb and stand say about their fighting style?

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    Lemon 84 x McLean Hatch x Kearney Whitehackle

    based off of the reading. those 3 strike me the most that'll make a good combo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hondajazz2009 View Post
    thank you for the reply, for hatch it has dark legs right? what does the legs, body, coloring, comb and stand say about their fighting style?
    Nothing. You will find that each individual is different. Even in the same family. My advice is to read some books by Frank Shy. He brakes it down pretty good.

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    Re: Bloodlines and their fighting styles

    anyone who can share info about the kelso bloodline?

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    can anyone help me with the lundy roundhead info, please.....

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    Any info on kelso family fighting style?
    Thank you

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