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    Let me get this strait (LAWS)

    If a person is caught in a misdeameanor state cockfighting he will still be charged with a felony because of the things he uses such as the clothes on your back, gaffs, the gas in your vehicle, etc. ? In other words its pretty much a felony in every state to fight chickens now correct?

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    If its a federal case then yes

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    From what I've seen even if it's not a federal case and you are arrested in a misdomenor state for cockfighting it's not the cockfighting charges to worry bout but the gambling and all other charges they add to it. What I don't understand is how I've seen ppl charged with cockfighting and animal cruelty in two seperate charges but to my understanding that's double jeopardy charging twice for the same crime like charging for speeding then charging for careless driving bc of the speeding which you can't do

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    Re: Let me get this strait (LAWS)

    State laws differ from state to state of course. I found this website useful for reference regarding state laws. I know the initial post was refering to Federal laws, thought I should share.

    http://aldf.org/article.php?id=259

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    So, how does this usually work now? If the state authorities "raid" a derby do federal charges usually follow because of the Federal Animal Fighting spectator law? Or do the federal boys usually just let the states handle any or all charges? Just curious

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    Quote Originally Posted by MountainThunder View Post
    So, how does this usually work now? If the state authorities "raid" a derby do federal charges usually follow because of the Federal Animal Fighting spectator law? Or do the federal boys usually just let the states handle any or all charges? Just curious
    it's not suppose to exceed the state laws.

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    ck out ur boss very naughty, hiding money from u!!! here's a federal case...

    https://patch.com/georgia/loganville...eaded-for-hell

    IRS troubles
    The 2012 tax return shows the Humane Society spend $10 million on marketing, $7 million on direct mail, more than $3.5 million on fundraising consultants, $1.8 on “print management” (brokers), and the CEO received $400,000 in salary and benefits.
    The top staff and non-profit officers were paid more than $3.6 million in salary and benefits.
    Total staff salaries and benefits paid for 2012 were more than $44.5 million, out of $125.7 million of revenue — nearly 30 percent of the total revenue.
    Total expenses for fundraising are more than $4 million.
    The Humane Society of the United States appears to be one giant fundraising and fat salary machine. And while The IRS permits tax-exempt organizations to pay executives “fair and reasonable” compensation, there is no universal standard defining fair and reasonable.
    Analysis of 100,000 nonprofit CEO salaries
    The highest paid non-profit CEOs — defined as paid more than 2 Standard Deviations from the mean salaries, than the average salary – represent only about 1/2 of 1 percent of all nonprofit organizations. In other words, only around 1 percent of nonprofit CEOs make a salary significantly higher than the average, according to Economist Linda Lampkin, who analyzed 100,000 CEO salaries of non-profit organizations.
    Non-Profit Investments?
    In June, Charity Navigator completely removed its letter grade rating of the Humane Society U.S. and replaced it with a “donor advisory.” “The advisory notifies website visitors of the $15.75 million settlement of a racketeering and bribery lawsuit that **** was a part of last month,” HumaneWatch.org reported. “You can read more about that settlement here, but the lawsuit involved **** money allegedly paying a witness who lied to a federal court.”
    **** moved money to several funds in the Cayman Islands include the following “investments:”
    $500,000 to Ascend Partners Fund I, L.P., a Cayman hedge fund
    $253,000 to BKM Holdings (Cayman) Ltd.
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    $8 million to Fore Multi Strategy Offshore Fund, Ltd., in the Caymans
    $5 million to Hayman Capital Offshore Partners, L.P. in Bermuda
    $6.7 million invested in Fir Tree International Value Fund in the Caymans
    Given that U.S. Charities are supposed to provide charitable services, while for-profit businesses invest money in hedge funds to make a profit, it is quite dubious that a non-profit charity from the United States would put $26 million in offshore funds in the Cayman Islands other than to stash money.

    http://www.tkc.com/resources/resources-pages/animalrights1.html

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    Congressional Testimony
    Statement of John E. Lewis
    Deputy [COLOR=#009900 !important]Assistant Director[/COLOR]
    Counterterrorism Division
    Federal Bureau of Investigation
    Before the Senate Judiciary Committee
    May 18, 2004

    Good morning Chairman Hatch, and members of the Committee, I am pleased to have this opportunity to appear before you and discuss the threat posed by [COLOR=#009900 !important]animal rights[/COLOR] extremists and eco-terrorists in this country, as well as the measures being taken by the FBI and our law enforcement partners to address this threat, and some of the difficulties faced by law enforcement in addressing this crime problem.

    As you know, the FBI [COLOR=#009900 !important]divides[/COLOR] the terrorist threat facing the United States into two broad categories, international and domestic. International terrorism involves violent acts that occur beyond our national boundaries and are a violation of the [COLOR=#009900 !important]criminal laws[/COLOR] of the United States or similar acts of violence committed by individuals or groups under some form of foreign direction occurring within the jurisdiction of the United States.

    Domestic terrorism involves acts of violence that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or any state, committed by individuals or groups without any foreign direction, and appear to be intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population, or influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion, and occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.


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    http://www.tkc.com/resources/resourc...alrights1.html
    Six Billion Chickens
    The animal rights movement
    Part one of a two part series by Dave Matherson


    Have you ever
    gone to the circus

    Roll over Marx and Lenin!
    Most people "love" animals...
    God's intent has
    always been for
    man to show kindness
    to animals...

    "A rat is a pig
    is a dog is a boy."

    ...animal idolatory...
    In other words
    man is superior
    to the animals.
    Man's rebellion against God takes many forms, but as king Solomon once observed, "There is nothing new under the sun." Such is the case with the environmental and animal "rights" movements that have captured a growing amount of media attention over the past two decades. These trendy and fashionable causes are really little more than a modern day manifestation of a sin that is rooted in antiquity, but they do threaten to further undermine the already eroded Christian foundations of our culture.
    Environmental extremism and the animal "rights" movement are closely linked in terms of their core beliefs. While environmentalism encompasses a broad spectrum of issues, animal rights deals with only one: the relation between human beings and animals. This essay deals with the animal rights movement (really a movement within a movement), and in this first of a two part series, we'll look at the philosophy, origins, and influence of animal rights. In part two, we'll examine the movement's tactics and the inroads it has made in our culture.
    Have you ever gone to the circus...?
    Let me begin by asking you a few personal questions. (Don't be shy!) Have you ever gone to the circus or rodeo with your family? Do you own or wear leather belts, shoes, wallets, or purses? What about a fur coat or a parka with a fur-lined hood? Ever visited the zoo? Do you eat meat, poultry, or fish? What about honey or dairy products? Do you own pets of any sort? Do you ever wear clothing made of wool, silk, or goose down? Do you take comfort in swallowing a prescription knowing it was tested on a lab animal and found to be safe for humans before the pharmacist dispensed it to you?
    ...you are a primitive, arrogant, cruel, barbaric, murdering "speciesist,"
    If you answered "yes" to any of the above, the animal "rights" movement would like you to know that you are a sick, exploitive, bloodthirsty person. Furthermore, you are a primitive, arrogant, cruel, barbaric, murdering "speciesist," not fit to lick the boots of a crustacean. Such kind words of encouragement are actually just a collection of animal rights rhetoric seen frequently in their publications and literature and used regularly against their enemies - namely, you and me.
    Sounds a bit strong, doesn't it? It's the sort of ranting and raving you would expect from some fringe radical refugees from the 60s; greying hippy-dips that burnt-out a few too many brain cells on their last trip. Unfortunately, this is not the case. The grass roots popularity of the animal rights movement continues to grow rapidly with each passing year; it attracts a broad cross-section of society, and it is highly organized, heavily financed, and politically sophisticated.
    Roll-over Marx and Lenin!
    The membership of the larger animal rights groups is widely diversified and includes the young, the not so young, blue collar workers, professionals, the unemployed, politicians, and (surprise!) Hollywood celebrities. Did you ever wonder what became of the left wing "intelligentsia" following the humiliating collapse of the Soviet Union and its Communist puppet states? Well, they are alive and well, and they are continuing to promote the Communist ideals of state control over resources. The only things that have changed are the terminology they use, and the names of the organizations they belong to. Roll over Marx and Lenin! Today's trendy and leftist causes are animal rights and radical environmentalism.
    Just how large and influential has the animal rights movement become? In the United States alone, it is estimated that there are over 7000 different animal rights advocacy groups. About 56 of these groups maintain fully staffed offices in Washington, D.C. to lobby and harass federal politicians. These offices employ over 700 people, and have a combined annual budget in excess of 219 million dollars. Some animal rights groups even employ professional fund-raising firms from New York and Los Angeles and spend over a million dollars annually on advertising alone. The largest North American animal rights group is People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (P.E.T.A.), which boasts a membership of over 350,000 people, an annual budget of over eight million dollars, and 65 full-time staff.
    Most people "love" animals...
    What is it about the animal rights movement that makes it so attractive to so many people? Most people "love" animals to varying degrees and hate the thought of them being treated with cruelty or violence. Animal rights groups are very aware of the public's emotional attachment to animals, and they exploit this fully, using emotive visual imagery whenever possible. A favourite tactic is to orchestrate or stage media "events." Seldom do reporters criticize or ask probing questions, let alone conduct anything that even remotely resembles investigative journalism. The "enemies" of animals are usually portrayed in the worst possible light: medical researchers are caricatured as "mad scientists who torture animals"; hunters as "bloodthirsty savages"; and the animal rights supporters are, of course, portrayed as righteous crusaders valiantly striving to save innocent animals.
    From infancy, the animal rights movement seemed to realize that in order to gain popularity and public acceptance for their off-beat philosophies, they would need to associate themselves with the well-established and respectable animal welfare groups. In so doing, they spread the deception that animal "rights" are the same as animal welfare. The two are actually quite distinct and separate. Historically, animal welfare advocacy groups originated in England during the 19th century and appeared later in North America. Their goals were admirable and, more importantly, Biblically-based. These included encouraging the humane treatment of farm animals, monitoring the treatment of performing (i.e., circus or racetrack) animals, eliminating unnecessary laboratory testing, and neutering or spaying shelter animals.
    God's intent has always been for man to show kindness to animals...
    It should be clear that as Christians, we can and should embrace the concept of animal welfare. In Genesis 2:15, God gave what was Adam's first job and mankind's first responsibility. This was to "tend and keep" the garden of Eden, and it included responsible stewardship of all the resources God placed in the garden, whether plant or animal. Clearly, man was not to make unethical use of, waste, or despoil God's creation. God's intent has always been for man to show kindness to animals, as is revealed in His law: domestic animals were to share in the rewards of the harvest (Deut 25:4), to be included in the weekly Sabbath rest (Ex 23:12 and Lev 25:5-7), and to be treated with respect (Prov 12:10). Men were forbidden to kill both the mother and young of a wild animal together, apparently to prevent the destruction of an entire species (Deut 22:6-7).
    "...animal rights activists ... takeover...
    In what proved to be an excellent strategy, animal rights activists set out to takeover the old established animal welfare groups. First to fall, was the British Union for the Abolition of Vivisection. Over 200 animal rights activists arrived by bus at one of the annual general meetings and voted in their own slate of "rights" activists. They not only acquired a respectable organization to hide behind, but a group with lots of cash in its coffers. Corporate takeover methods have since been used by "rights" activists to acquire effective control over other welfare groups such as The Humane Society and The New England Anti-Vivisection League.
    There are, however, some voices of truth and sanity speaking into this issue. Putting People First (PPF) is a non-profit, grassroots organization founded by Kathleen Marquardt in 1990 and is dedicated to opposing anti-human animal "rights," and environmental extremism. Although a very young organization, PPF has compiled an impressive list of victories in the political, legislative, and media arenas. PPF is an ardent supporter of animal welfare and conservation; they oppose animal abuse and environmental destruction. However, according to Marquardt, "People just don't understand how dangerous, how radical the animal extremists are. They're not reformers. They're abolitionists, revolutionaries... they say humans have no right to exploit animals. Animal extremists lie. They're out to brainwash the American public, and they're succeeding. They use terrorist tactics. They make death threats against their opponents, such as scientists who conduct medical research on animals. I've received lots of death threats from them myself."
    Even a cursory look through the literature published by animal rights groups validates what Marquardt says. Consider the following sample of statements made by the founders of two of the largest and most high profile animal rights groups:
    "A rat is a pig is a dog is a boy." (Ingrid Newkirk, co-founder of P.E.T.A.)
    "I would not knowingly have an animal hurt for me, or my children, or anyone else." (Cleveland Amory, founder of The Fund for Animals, when asked on the Larry King Live Show if he would kill a lamb in order to get insulin needed to save his own child's life, who was dying of diabetes.)
    "Six million people died in concentration camps, but six billion chickens will die this year in slaughterhouses." (Ingrid Newkirk)
    These statements reveal the foundations of the animal rights movement. It is the belief that animals have the same feelings, motivations, and inalienable rights as humans do. Animals are in every way of equal "worth" to humans, and the death of a rat or slug is just as tragic and significant as the death of a child.
    ...animal idolatry...
    Not only is this philosophy disgustingly anti-human, it is also defiantly anti-God. The animal rights movement is little more than a modern version of the animal idolatry that has flourished for thousands of years. Surely our modern animal worshippers are aptly described by the Apostle Paul when he wrote of men "whose foolish hearts have become darkened," and who have "exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator...." (Rom 1:25). Fallen man has always elevated God's creation to the level of deity, worshipping the image of animals molded or carved into idols.
    In other words, man is superior to the animals.
    In the dominion mandate, God declares that man is to "rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground." In other words, man is superior to the animals. Of all the life-forms God created, man alone was made in His image. Man is the crown of God's creation: he is not merely one creature among many, but rather is distinct from the rest of creation. He has been placed in a position of rulership.
    The animal rights movement is at war with the Creator and His order in creation; it seeks to overturn the dominion mandate and reduce man to the level of an animal. It will not succeed, for our Lord rules in the midst of His enemies.


    Originally published in U-TURN
    email: church@tkc.com
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    http://www.flashreport.org/blog/2014...ating-revoked/

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    ck out ur boss very naughty, hiding money from u!!! here's a federal case...

    http://www.flashreport.org/blog/2014...ating-revoked/

    IRS troubles
    The 2012 tax return shows the Humane Society spend $10 million on marketing, $7 million on direct mail, more than $3.5 million on fundraising consultants, $1.8 on “print management” (brokers), and the CEO received $400,000 in salary and benefits.
    The top staff and non-profit officers were paid more than $3.6 million in salary and benefits.
    Total staff salaries and benefits paid for 2012 were more than $44.5 million, out of $125.7 million of revenue — nearly 30 percent of the total revenue.
    Total expenses for fundraising are more than $4 million.
    The Humane Society of the United States appears to be one giant fundraising and fat salary machine. And while The IRS permits tax-exempt organizations to pay executives “fair and reasonable” compensation, there is no universal standard defining fair and reasonable.
    Analysis of 100,000 nonprofit CEO salaries
    The highest paid non-profit CEOs — defined as paid more than 2 Standard Deviations from the mean salaries, than the average salary – represent only about 1/2 of 1 percent of all nonprofit organizations. In other words, only around 1 percent of nonprofit CEOs make a salary significantly higher than the average, according to Economist Linda Lampkin, who analyzed 100,000 CEO salaries of non-profit organizations.
    Non-Profit Investments?
    In June, Charity Navigator completely removed its letter grade rating of the Humane Society U.S. and replaced it with a “donor advisory.” “The advisory notifies website visitors of the $15.75 million settlement of a racketeering and bribery lawsuit that **** was a part of last month,” HumaneWatch.org reported. “You can read more about that settlement here, but the lawsuit involved **** money allegedly paying a witness who lied to a federal court.”
    **** moved money to several funds in the Cayman Islands include the following “investments:”
    $500,000 to Ascend Partners Fund I, L.P., a Cayman hedge fund
    $253,000 to BKM Holdings (Cayman) Ltd.
    Get free real-time news alerts from the Loganville-Grayson Patch.

    SUBSCRIBE


    $8 million to Fore Multi Strategy Offshore Fund, Ltd., in the Caymans
    $5 million to Hayman Capital Offshore Partners, L.P. in Bermuda
    $6.7 million invested in Fir Tree International Value Fund in the Caymans
    Given that U.S. Charities are supposed to provide charitable services, while for-profit businesses invest money in hedge funds to make a profit, it is quite dubious that a non-profit charity from the United States would put $26 million in offshore funds in the Cayman Islands other than to stash money.

    http://www.tkc.com/resources/resources-pages/animalrights1.html

    http://www.tkc.com/resources/resources-pages/animalrights1.html

    https://www2.fbi.gov/congress/congress04/lewi ...

    Congressional Testimony
    Statement of John E. Lewis
    Deputy [COLOR=#009900 !important]Assistant Director[/COLOR]
    Counterterrorism Division
    Federal Bureau of Investigation
    Before the Senate Judiciary Committee
    May 18, 2004

    Good morning Chairman Hatch, and members of the Committee, I am pleased to have this opportunity to appear before you and discuss the threat posed by [COLOR=#009900 !important]animal rights[/COLOR] extremists and eco-terrorists in this country, as well as the measures being taken by the FBI and our law enforcement partners to address this threat, and some of the difficulties faced by law enforcement in addressing this crime problem.

    As you know, the FBI [COLOR=#009900 !important]divides[/COLOR] the terrorist threat facing the United States into two broad categories, international and domestic. International terrorism involves violent acts that occur beyond our national boundaries and are a violation of the [COLOR=#009900 !important]criminal laws[/COLOR] of the United States or similar acts of violence committed by individuals or groups under some form of foreign direction occurring within the jurisdiction of the United States.

    Domestic terrorism involves acts of violence that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or any state, committed by individuals or groups without any foreign direction, and appear to be intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population, or influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion, and occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.



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    Bunny humping do-gooder do more harm than good.
    I wonder just how much it costs us. The expense of raising animals for food, or even pet ownership is first to come to mind but there is more. People pay for animal rights in ways they don't even know. In Florida when a power plant shuts down they have to pay to heat water for the manatees to winter in the place that they have become accustomed to instead of the springs were nature intended. With no format in place to get the manatee back to the springs the cost is a permanent one. With zoos being bombarded with higher cost they are shutting down and almost gone, except the ones that are subsidised. Ringling brothers is gone, Sea world is nearly gone. If you can't afford to travel the world you no longer have the right to see exotic animals. Even nature shows on TV are edited according to the whims of these asinine people. At this rate you won't even be able to show a stake cooking on the grill without the animal rights freaks protesting. When will everyone wake up to the fact that these people are dictating how we are to live and what we are to eat, the type of pets we have even the environment we give to wildlife. Animal rights are costing everyone fortune not just farmers and pet owners. Even native wildlife are paying for their perverse view of the relationship between people and animals.

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