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    Rubramin Injectable

    Gamit ko either Belamyl, Complexor or Bexan, pero may nagsabing mas effective daw ang "Rubramin" gamit sa tao. Sino ang nakasubok na nito at kung ano ang dosage.

    Salamat mga cockmates.

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    Pareho din ng dosage ng belamyl or bexan. Matagal na kasi akong di gumagamit nito (walang sabong sa canada eh), pero we used to use this and it's very effective (no'ng nasa 'pinas pa 'ko)

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    rubramin

    rubramin ay B12 vitamin injectable para sa tao pero karamihan ay ginagamit din ito para sa manok. Ang Rubramin ay isang Ampule Vitamin B12 may 1000mcg at 5000mcg available sa market date sa pinas ewan ko ngayon ku meron pa. Nakagamit na ako nyan date ok naman ang kinalabasan.

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    preng oops, may sabong dito sa canada december and summer ginaganap.

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    :crazy: Nasubukan ko yan mga early '90s maganda naman ang resulta kya yan na ang ginagamit sa mga manok namin kaso lang nung mga year na yun nabalitan namin na epephase-out n daw hanggang sa totally ngang hindi na kami nakahanap maganda pa naman sana sa manok yun...:crazy:

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    wala na nga ata ito..dati sa Mercury mabibili mo na ito..pero nitong uwi ko..wala..buong mercury drug na ata sa Luzon napagtanungan ko na.:lol:

    aside sa Bexan at Belamyl ..ano pa nga ba mas magandang brand ng B-12 (injectable) ang Ok gamitin???

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    try progressive in edsa
    and ask b12 of breco as good alternative.
    i would also recommend the b15

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    Sir: i personally used Rubramin up to now at nakakabili po ako nito sa mercury drug sa pampanga sa may angeles city particularly, it is a B 12 1000 mcg at isang vial sya, it is good for the chickens lalo na pag natural conditioning ang gamit mo. this is one of the components used by doc teddy tnachanco sa conditioning nya try it and see the results

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    Rubramin replacement

    Cyanocobalamin ang Rubramin, mas mainam na B12 ang methycobalamin kaysa Cyanocobalamin. Kaya kapag walang Rubramin kapalit nito ay Methycobalamin, mahal nga lang...

    Thundercock

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    rubramin?

    sa medical point of view.ma rubramin ma bylamyl o complexor.malocal brand o imported tulad ng dr.blues products ay pareho lang yan.kung ang mga manok natin ay walang deficiency sa mga vitamins at minerals ay wala silang makukuhang benefits sa mga gamot na ito.kung meron mang deficiency ay magagmot natin ito kahit pa mumurahin lang ang mga vitamins na ibinibigay as long na ang binibigay nating gamot o vitamins ay ayon sa kanilang deficiency.hindi ibig sabihin na mas maganda ang isang medisina dahil ito ay imported o mamahalin.halimbawa bylamyl kumpara sa dr.blues na b complex.kung titingnan natin ang composition nila ay pareho lang active ingredients ng dalalwang ito so pareho lang ang functions nito at magiging epekto.kung wala namang deficiency ang manok natin ay useless ang mga gamot na ito kasi hindi naman ina absorb ng katawan ng manok dahil hindi nila kailangan.waste products lang ang kalabasan ng mga ito.

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    Mawalang galang po

    Opinyon nyo po yan Sir, at ibig nyo pong sabihin Sir wala po kayong ginagamit na vitamins sa inyong pagkukundisyon?

    Kung komposisyon po ang titingnan bakit naging mahal ang isang brand sa isang brand ano ang pinagkaiba? Dahil po ba sa ads nila at packaging?

    Sa opinyon ko lang din po iba ang kilos ng manok kapag rubramin ang naiturok sa kanila kumpara sa bylamyl, dr blues, complexor etc....sa parehong amount. Bakit?

    Thundercock

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    B12 vitamins is best when used from pre-con onwards up to the last day of your conditioning regime, thats why i never use injectables but tablets instead.the ultimate benefit of b12 in the body is to play a key role in the formation of new cells in the body such as red blood cells to help maintain a healthy nervous system and protein metabolism and good circulation of oxygen in the body.
    injecting b12 3days before the fight..... ah..ah >new cells cant be form overnight, so i dont think it is effective, waste of time and you money plus you just stress your good rooster!:hat:

    to each his own :rbounce:

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    Rubramin? there is a stock at Mercury Pembo Makati Branch, I still used the medicine until now. Thanks!

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    thundercock,kung saan ka hiyang ay yon ang gamitin mo.ako bylamyl ang gamit ko.ginagawa ko lang ito kung mahinang kumain ang manok o kulang sa pula ang mukha at sa conditioning kasi sa training natin di maiwasan na mastress ang manok at eventually madepleted sila ng mga vitamins at minerals sa katawan nila.mabuti na yong nakakasigurop na wala silang deficiencies.at sa tanong mo kung bakit mas mahal ang ibang brand yan ay di ako sigurado kung bakit.maraming factors ang dahilan nyan example popularity ng isang brand.pero sa trabaho ko sa medical field binibigyan namin ang mga pasyente namin ng generic brands of the same composition sa original para di gaanong mabigat sa bulsa nila lalo na dito sa states na masyadong mahal ang medisina at hindi lahat kinocover ng medicare o health insurance.sa tingin kasi ng mga duktor ay pareho lang ang magiging epekto nito kaysa original brands.

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    Very effective but cock becomes restless, aggressive and seemingly hot if not administered properly. Best timing and dosage cud be achieved probably through trial basis which i didn't pursue after getting good result using the long acting (hydroxocobalamin) B12 of the same brand.
    Knew numbers of big time cockers using this Rubramin. Explore it bro..hehehe..it's a challenging feat!
    YFIS...

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    STUPID_CROOK

    Do you give rubramin night before the fight?Kasi some brands recommend giving B12 on the last day of the keep.

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    Thanks for the very informative replies.

    Belamyl contains 10 mcg of B12/ml. and the dosage is .25 ml/head twice a week. If the concentration of that Rubramin inj. is 1000 mcg of b12/ml. I think the dosage is not the same.

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    vastampede
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    how do we use b-12 injectables? pano po ba doasge nito?? when will be the last time na isasaksak natin sa manok ito??

    --tulong lang po

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    not all b12 of different brands/manufacturer are same in effect maraming manloloko sa ating mga pinoy. iba ang pinas sa canada. sa pinas may mga capsules of antibiotics na gawgaw o di kaya harina ang laman. kaya dun na ako sa kilalang brands na kahit mahal e sigurado ka naman. sa b12 naman maaring yong iba ay substandard kaya di gaanong effective.
    ang b12 ay di lamang involve sa rbc fomation but it also hasten the metabolism kaya maganda ang galaw ng manok after 12- 24 hrs of administration pero depende sa dossage. si Dr. Teddy Tanchanco ay nagbibigay ng 0.5 cc na Rubramin 3 days bfore the fight. Stop all other vitamins 5 days bfore fite.

    try it Vastampede din sparr. if good bathe your cock and after one week repeat the procedure and fight your cock

    Rubramin costs 860 for 10 ml vial

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    dosage by doc t. on rubramin

    Day Medication administered, Dosage and Route
    01 Wheat Germ Oil Capsules (oral) and 0.5 cc Rubramin (intramuscular)
    02
    03
    04 Rubramin 0.3cc (intramuscular) and cod liver oil capsule.
    05
    06
    07 Cod liver oil capsule and 0.5cc rubramin plus 0.2cc jectoferAmpuole
    08
    09 Wheat Germ oil Capsule
    10
    11 0.5 cc Rubramin plus 0.2 cc Jectofer Ampuole
    12 Cod liver oil capsule
    13
    14
    15 Wheat germ oil capsule
    16
    17 0.5 cc Rubramin (intramuscular)
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    20
    21

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    kapag malamig na buwan ng dec. o january ay ayos yang dosage ng wheat germ at cod liver oil na yan.

    pero kapag summer ay 2 cod liver at 2 wheat germ oil okay na yan.........sabi ni doc.

    sa gabi ang bigay ng wheat at cod liver oil.mainit kasi sa katawan yan.sa gabi bumababa ang temperatura,okay lang sa katawan nila ang lilikhaing init nito.

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    Nakabili ako ng rubramin injectable susmaryosep mahigit 1Thou. and isang (10 ml) vial. But i will try this using the dosage given by epcvirus, tnx pare.

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    vitamin b12

    kakmayts,

    talagang napakaraming b12 vitamins made for human treatment and propylaxis of b12 defciencies. nandyan ang Hyper b-12 inj.,Rubranova inj.,cyovit forte inj,arconeurine inj. neurobexol inj.,ang lahat ay may 1000 mcg/m. pwedeng iinject sa manok kaya lang 0.020-0.025 lang ang dosage at may interval na 1-2 weeks.

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    tnx sa inyo... this helps a lot

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    juan_bayan
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    pwede ba stock yong matira o gaano katagal ang bisa ng rubramim alam ko ampoule to salamat po

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    anubang gamut yung jectoper ampuole

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    Nasa vial yan, covered with rubber cap, kaya pwede mo magamit at stock mo for longer period of time.:rbounce:

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    Jectoper

    Isa syang iron, kaya pwedeng gumamit ng kahit anong brand basta iron pareho lang din ang dami na ihahalo sa Rubramin.


    Thundercock

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    Sa akin lang, di na kailangan pang ihalo ang iron preparation sa rubramin, you can just inject iron in a separate syringe. I usually give one dose of injection during the 21-day keep, 10 days before the scheduled fight. Ingat lang sa iron inj. dahil delicado yan sa manok pag nasubrahan, hindi kasi na i-excrete yan sa katawan.

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    B12 cyanocobalamin - 1000 mcg/ml (eto na ang gamit ni doc ted)


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