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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckeee2 View Post
    oooops! starting tomorrow mawawala ako pansandali ha, at kami'y maglo long driving to Quebec balik ko na siguro August na kaya pagbutihin nyo mabuti yan bolahan nyo sus! kayo kayo nagbobolahan wala kayong mapapasakay nyan dito hanggang nandirito ako noh show us the evidence the videos of your fight. at ikaw naman dyan hunyango pakita mo dito yan sinasabi mong delivery mo ng manok hehehe para paniwalaan kau dito noh, noh! sufficient in contents is a must here 'pre Beng, meron ka ba pamangkin na eric parido'? lagot kang bata ka wehehe.
    talagang isa kang matinding virus,..pag breeding ang pag uusapan ang lahi mo ay cull agad.,never mature...nadadamay tuloy ang matinong friend mo. mag bago ka na..pls..

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenDragon View Post

    ok guys tama na to !!!.... Kaibigan at kakilala ko kayong
    lahat...hindi ko maclose ang thread dahil si ib ang opener
    ng thread respeto lang...

    Kung talagang palaban kayo parepareho na sabi ni ks eh
    kasado maski sinong lumaban sa barkada ni chukee call
    ni ks... Huwag ng gumamit ng issue eh pera maski walang
    pusta bast'at manok manok lang... Larga na yan ... Request ko lang dapat banded ng digmaan... 2 stag derby at sa batik ang
    labanan... Malapit sa akin..... Laban kung lalaban...
    Kaya hindi ako manalo sa bingo binubuwist ninyo lang ako
    Hi Miss Princess, the most logical thing to do is start banning the trolls before closing a useful thread.

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    Bro IB,

    Plane going to ozamis ay usually Q3 ang ginagamit kaya mahirap ang booking. wala yang ventilation kaya di tumatanggap ng live animals.

    1st flight nila is 5 am. be there 2.5 hr before. call PAL 1 day before you ship and make all docs ready.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karachisweater View Post
    Hi Miss Princess, the most logical thing to do is start banning the trolls before closing a useful thread.
    you are the troll here spreading all your mythical animated fantasies without evidence. totoo ba na lalaban ka ng main sabi mo daw ke princess? lalaban ako sau pag uwi ko sa marso kaya mag aral ka na kumasa ng tari.

    mamili ka na sa dalawang yan isang laban lang para wala nang bawian. sa SPC o sa muntinlupa batik.

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    hindi ko gustong napapasali ako sa mga issues na ganito...
    kaso isa ako sa may ari ng site na ito and since wala naman
    umaawat sa inyo bagkus nagsulsulan pa at nagkampihan pa
    lalong nagkakagulo para tayong nasa tupadahan...

    chuks2: too long ang march... noon puedeng gamitin ang
    dahilan na lugon ang mga manokis this time of year... now
    acceptable ng stags... laban na sa lahat ng oras at panahon.


    so itong suggestion ko: fight na kayo this stag derby 2 lang
    yan may taya o wala basta't laban... batik dito sa muntinlupa
    ang venue...itataon natin na hack fight... tapusin natin ang
    opening salvo na ito para if you still want to fight sa marso
    we will discuss it again...

    and wala na yan pili pili na yan para kayong nananakot
    para kayong nasa elementary... 'hold mong birdie nya
    kung talagang lalaban ka'...sus eddie go sanay na sanay
    ako sa elementary laban na ganito... I was in the center
    of it all...

    this is the only solution para manahimik ng issue na ito...
    salamat sa inyong lahat...
    " one life time is not enough to learn about
    gamefowl breeding". it is like a vast universe
    what can come out will never cease to amaze us".

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    Ano nanaman toh Tata Tsukee??? MAIN NANAMAN???
    Abah latag mo na yung mga "DAPAT-DAPAT" na rules mo... HEHEHE...

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    may pa pile-pile pa ng manok at venue ngayon ah....
    at kylangan pa nang mga proof-proof???
    GALING!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by roy reyes View Post
    Bossing swallow sasagot lang ako sa tanong mo.sa pag bbreed at pagbebenta ng palahi wala masama dyan legal yan na gawain.dito sa net madami naman nag popost ng kanila mga alaga nasa nagbabasa na din at member kung sino ang gusto nila bilhan ng manok thru private massage na siguro.saka sa tagal ko na dito wala din ako nabalitaan na nilokong tao si bro ks.pero meron balita sa akin ang mga bubuwit na may mga kamanukan tayo dito na lagi maganda ang sinasabi sa palahi pero pag nilaban ay mahihina ang loob.thats a fact..kaya isang form ng panloloko yung super ang pakilala sa palahi pero ang katotohanan mahirap ipanalo sa laban.
    I totally agree sa post mo. In fact huwag na natin limit sa mga nandito, included dyan mga known breeders na nagbebenta ng BASURA nila.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grey/dom View Post
    Wala akong alam. Napakalayo ko para malaman any mga lokohan. Ako lang sa buhay ko 50 years old sa mundo na Di nangloloko ngunit di ho kami tumatakbo sa gustong umaaway sa amin.

    Di rin kami naghahanap ng away. We will just stand our ground. At di kami naghahanap ng kakampi. At di nagsu sul sul.

    Ikaw si benson chua. Di ba? Magkaklase ba tayo sa CIT? O ABC Corporation at Primary?
    Again. Alamim mo ang punot dulo. And dnt jump into conclussions. I am also poor and pro poor. Di ko lang gusto ang mga walang modo at respeto.

    Sana last na to sa
    sagutan na to. Ayaw ko ng drama at sarsuela
    Pareho lang tayo na ayaw ng MADRAMA, at Lalong hindi ko hilig ang SARSUELA na sinasabi mo. Pareho lang din tayo hindi naghahanap ng away, pero di rin kumakalas sa laban. Di ko rin ugali ang kampihan, pero di ko rin iniiwanan ang kaibigan.

    Tama ka ako ng si Benson, pero si ako nag-aral sa CIT, at hindi nagtrabaho sa ABC Corporation.

    I am not jumping into conclusions, I simply present DATA and FACTS, and lastly an OPTION.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grey/dom View Post
    Sagutin kita sa maraming bc o naghahanap ng maraming bloodline. Ako o kami. Ganyan din. But for infusing bloodlines. Not for a new generations of breeding. Kung simasabi magaling ang maintained mo na palahi. Marami bumilib. At sinabi maintain eto for so many years. Bakit maghahanap ng iba mga palahi? Kung promoted mo ang napakagaling na palahi mo? Well its just my opinion. Iba rin opinyon nyo.

    Ngunit kung naghahanap ka ng ibang mga blooines. Klaro naman na di maganda ang na maintain mo na bloodline. Yan para sa akin ang panloloko sa sarili natin. Ngunit as I mentioned. Magkaiba tayo ng opinyon. Sana lang sabihin o tanggapin ang katotohanan. Again, di kami sikat. Di kami ace breeder. We never claimed one. At ako nagtutupada lang. bakit ba napakaportante
    opinyon ko?
    Tama ka, magkakaiba nga tayo ng Opinyon. Your opinion is based on a school of thought that about 75% of the breeders believe in. Mine is maybe 5% and the remaining 20% have other ways. I do not believe in MAINTAINING a BLOODLINE, but rather on a MAINTAINING a FAMILY, and IMPROVING THAT FAMILY, and this I shall quote the legendary RICHARD BATES, " When you loose a broodfowl, YOU LOSE HIM FOREVER, no amount of Linebreeding and Inbreeding would bring him back."

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    Just in case there are curious people... KS shipped to me 10 heads last 7/7 evening and I fought 8 of them sa Sta Monica Cockpit yesterday, the result is WWWLWLLL. Lahat ng kalaban ko patay regardless win or lose ako. Lahat ng kalaban 2yo and the birds I fought are the last batch I have with Eric (tira-tira na ng mga naunang 70), they are 9mos and no more than 10 mos. off-season bred and shedding feather too.

    I am not advertising for Karachi or Eric, in fact I hope you guys dont buy from him, so i can get all of them and play around, as I had stopped breeding since 2012. I just have a supply of birds from 3 yards that for me is good enough to win in Bakbakan or Digmaan, WSC, and Pitmaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swallow View Post
    Tama ka, magkakaiba nga tayo ng Opinyon. Your opinion is based on a school of thought that about 75% of the breeders believe in. Mine is maybe 5% and the remaining 20% have other ways. I do not believe in MAINTAINING a BLOODLINE, but rather on a MAINTAINING a FAMILY, and IMPROVING THAT FAMILY, and this I shall quote the legendary RICHARD BATES, " When you loose a broodfowl, YOU LOSE HIM FOREVER, no amount of Linebreeding and Inbreeding would bring him back."
    just for clarification my friend...'isn't maintaining a family, maintaining a bloodline'

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    Masaya nanaman pala, napag iwanan nanaman ako..
    Anuman sana ang ending, sana tropa pa din tayong lahat magkakaiba man tayo ng paniniwala..

    GM, ituloy na yan para matuloy na yung matagal ng kinapapanabikan ng lahat...

    Lameg ulo lang mga Boss, baka mga Moderators na ang humusga ng huling hatol..

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    Quote Originally Posted by karachisweater View Post
    Bro IB,

    Plane going to ozamis ay usually Q3 ang ginagamit kaya mahirap ang booking. wala yang ventilation kaya di tumatanggap ng live animals.

    1st flight nila is 5 am. be there 2.5 hr before. call PAL 1 day before you ship and make all docs ready.
    Kumuha ka na pala ng Broker para maghanap ng booking para sa Live Animal going Ozamis Airport. Tinanong ko ngayon sa FB message si Bro Leone kung anong Airline ang puedeng maghatid ng Live Animals sa kanila.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckeee2 View Post
    just for clarification my friend...'isn't maintaining a family, maintaining a bloodline'
    Maintaining a Bloodline means you are more concern about the Bloodline, while maintaining a FAMILY means, THAT VERY SPECIFIC FAMILY OF BIRDS not just any KELSO, any SWEATER, etc. It must be the very specific lineage of birds. To give you an example, Carol Nesmith have SWEATERS, and there are lots of family of sweaters in his yard, mostly bred out from the only surviving POSSUM line, when this bird produced offsprings, the output are full sisters or bros, but when you breed individually, you will notice that the result from each sister or bro is DIFFERENT even if bred to same COCK or same HEN. This is what I meant by maintaing a FAMILY. How do you do it? you produce from him and try the output in the pits, those with bad results you cull them all, and those good ones you keep them, so that can be bred in which ever way you wish within the same yard. Eventually you would produce different percentages of each winning type, but in a few years time, regardless of percentage, they will be UNIFORM in 80% of the skill set, some might be more superior, others a bit less, but none of them will be different. How do i know this? Well by accident when I was 8 yrs old we only have Greys and Democrats, no other blood, and after several yrs of producing birds from the same group, any output from our yard remains the same. We just added new blood in 1999, by then it was already 15 yrs. I was not a GENIUS, we knew nothing of breeding theories as well like any AMERICAN BREEDER, it was just a plain simple accident, we had no other birds there, so they just mated among themselves, some came RED and some came GREY, but they eventually fought the same way. I recall during that 15 yr period, we had less than 20 losses, but it is also because we never fight so much being just HOBBYIST. My parents do not like SABONG, and we do not have money for gambling.

    BTW, NO STUPID BREEDER WILL SELL YOU A MAINTAINED FAMILY FOR 150K, especially the HENS.
    Last edited by swallow; July 12th, 2017 at 05:24 AM.

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    nantutsa naman talaga noh, niloloko nyo ba mga members dito? meron ba commercial airline na walang aircon? edi sabihin nyo sa piloto na buksan yun bintana para di mamatay yun manok nyo sa biyahe noh...bleh! only a paranoid who will listen to his fellow paranoid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Island Born View Post
    Kumuha ka na pala ng Broker para maghanap ng booking para sa Live Animal going Ozamis Airport. Tinanong ko ngayon sa FB message si Bro Leone kung anong Airline ang puedeng maghatid ng Live Animals sa kanila.
    Bro Ib, it is still cebu pac and phil air. that flies to ozamis. you just need to consult the airline before shipment for possible booking dahil once q3 ang available airline they wont accept live animals on board wala yang ventilation going to the cargo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Island Born View Post
    Kumuha ka na pala ng Broker para maghanap ng booking para sa Live Animal going Ozamis Airport. Tinanong ko ngayon sa FB message si Bro Leone kung anong Airline ang puedeng maghatid ng Live Animals sa kanila.
    Bro Ib, it is still cebu pac and phil air. that flies to ozamis. you just need to consult the airline before shipment for possible booking dahil once q3 ang available airline they wont accept live animals on board wala the ventillation wont be enough for them to be safe.

    This will also be an eye opener for all individual who wish to ship going to small airports around the country that small aircrafts don't accept live animals.

    Some Q4 and larger planes will have enough space on its cargo giving a good ventilation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swallow View Post
    Maintaining a Bloodline means you are more concern about the Bloodline, while maintaining a FAMILY means, THAT VERY SPECIFIC FAMILY OF BIRDS not just any KELSO, any SWEATER, etc. It must be the very specific lineage of birds. To give you an example, Carol Nesmith have SWEATERS, and there are lots of family of sweaters in his yard, mostly bred out from the only surviving POSSUM line, when this bird produced offsprings, the output are full sisters or bros, but when you breed individually, you will notice that the result from each sister or bro is DIFFERENT even if bred to same COCK or same HEN. This is what I meant by maintaing a FAMILY. How do you do it? you produce from him and try the output in the pits, those with bad results you cull them all, and those good ones you keep them, so that can be bred in which ever way you wish within the same yard. Eventually you would produce different percentages of each winning type, but in a few years time, regardless of percentage, they will be UNIFORM in 80% of the skill set, some might be more superior, others a bit less, but none of them will be different. How do i know this? Well by accident when I was 8 yrs old we only have Greys and Democrats, no other blood, and after several yrs of producing birds from the same group, any output from our yard remains the same. We just added new blood in 1999, by then it was already 15 yrs. I was not a GENIUS, we knew nothing of breeding theories as well like any AMERICAN BREEDER, it was just a plain simple accident, we had no other birds there, so they just mated among themselves, some came RED and some came GREY, but they eventually fought the same way. I recall during that 15 yr period, we had less than 20 losses, but it is also because we never fight so much being just HOBBYIST. My parents do not like SABONG, and we do not have money for gambling.

    BTW, NO STUPID BREEDER WILL SELL YOU A MAINTAINED FAMILY FOR 150K, especially the HENS.
    Boss that was one of the reason why lolo did not let any hens go outside his farm alive There are only 3 of us that he let go his materials. the other one had lost his share already and i dont have any news on lolo's partner before. I am still maintaining the F1s from the originals since 2006 2008 2010 batches. The father of this hens is the best broodcock I ever had.

    You are right in quoting R.bates, once you lost a bird you can never create him back. I just needs another luck to have that potent Bc resurface again in the sons of those hens. by the way those hens had won majority of your fights. Smallish types already.

    I am also getting a clear vision on where I am going. base on your comments on how they fight and the results on the board. i will be better every year and we can have the plum in the next years.

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    The last pullet or hen that left my place alive are to friends only which I have noded to let go and only those that I trust. They are fewer than the fingers of my hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pigafetta08 View Post
    Masaya nanaman pala, napag iwanan nanaman ako..
    Anuman sana ang ending, sana tropa pa din tayong lahat magkakaiba man tayo ng paniniwala..

    GM, ituloy na yan para matuloy na yung matagal ng kinapapanabikan ng lahat...

    Lameg ulo lang mga Boss, baka mga Moderators na ang humusga ng huling hatol..
    bro figs
    that wont happen in any person I viewed as pester. you will be forever be one.
    he fights or not that will never change. I select my friends and pesters wont even qualify as an acquaintance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyb3rleone View Post
    ipapasilip ko ito sayo bro wilfred si mahinahon vs huminahon

    https://youtu.be/C2PAir6i8AU

    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

    Lemon ba yan straight comb bro leone ? ganda ah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarosa View Post
    Lemon ba yan straight comb bro leone ? ganda ah.
    Radio yan Bro Tarosa pero may am / fm yan.........hehehe.

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    lemon hackle ang radio ni bro wilfred kaya matibay.. ang sa akin hindi gaano pero happy pa din kasi may puyo..

    my tuki tuki..
    https://youtu.be/LQ73pvOv9xs
    https://youtu.be/n3btxKw-TFk

    mga bro ks at ib kayo bahala hindi ko kasi alam paano matagal na din kasi hindi naka pag ship 2013 pah cguro malaking pagbabago na ngaun.. sabik kunah mahimas si sota.. hehehehe


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    Quote Originally Posted by cyb3rleone View Post
    lemon hackle ang radio ni bro wilfred kaya matibay.. ang sa akin hindi gaano pero happy pa din kasi may puyo..

    my tuki tuki..
    https://youtu.be/LQ73pvOv9xs
    https://youtu.be/n3btxKw-TFk

    mga bro ks at ib kayo bahala hindi ko kasi alam paano matagal na din kasi hindi naka pag ship 2013 pah cguro malaking pagbabago na ngaun.. sabik kunah mahimas si sota.. hehehehe


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    bro just giving IB some ideas on shipping. dahil kapag small aplane ang mataon na nakabook sigurado babalik pa siya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karachisweater View Post
    bro figs
    that wont happen in any person I viewed as pester. you will be forever be one.
    he fights or not that will never change. I select my friends and pesters wont even qualify as an acquaintance.
    i already accept your challenge for a main and why don't you say yes for confirmation and see who the pester here.

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    Pagmasdan ang ulan unti unting pumapatak sa mga balahibo at mga pakpak,buhos na ulan manok ni tito lunurin tuluyan

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    Quote Originally Posted by roy reyes View Post
    Pagmasdan ang ulan unti unting pumapatak sa mga balahibo at mga pakpak,buhos na ulan manok ni tito lunurin tuluyan
    Nyahahaha Malunod na lahat huwag lang mga nokis ng tito mo:-)

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    [QUOTE=Wilfred4276;4851390]Radio yan Bro Tarosa pero may am / fm yan.........hehehe.[/QUOTE


    hahahaha ang tawa ko dito sa comment mo hahah, may cassette tape ba yan na kasama hahaha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karachisweater View Post
    Hi Miss Princess, the most logical thing to do is start banning the trolls before closing a useful thread.

    if I banned them trolls they will change into another
    handle name... alam mo naman ang mga trolls na yan
    nanganganak ng walang kapartner.!



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