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    danding09
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    Brother-sister Mating

    hello pipol,

    i just want to know if this kind of inbreeding is ok because i'm still confused about homozygosity.

    i also wanted to experiment but is it ok???

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    epcvirus
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    brother & sister mating

    As far as I know, brother and sister mating is the shortest way in making seedfowls. I just heard this from a breeder friend.
    Anybody there? correct me if I'm wrong. I also want to know what is true

    :innocent:

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    try to search ray boles threads he is
    the one promoting this method . . .


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    Diamond(r)
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    BROTHER/SISTER

    IF YOU HAVE FOUND WHAT YOU LIKE IN THE WAY YOUR CHICKENS FIGHT BREED BROTHER/SISTER TO SET A STRAIN AND AT THE SAME TIME YOU TEST GAMENESS...... BOBBY ROGERS

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    diamond(r)

    good line by bobby rogers . . .

    when to start and when to stop

    inputs by some ole timer breeders
    too much inbreeding losses
    gameness . . .

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    hmmmm . . .

    information getting deeper and better

    once breed in you cannot breed out . . .

    but maybe you can improve and
    minimize if not totally remove

    ofcourse we're talking about the
    unwanted traits (imho)

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    Ray Boles
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    Ace could you post where the information can be had on the gentleman who did the 47 years of inbreeding. Im am interested in knowing how he knew there was a mutation. and also how this would affect hybrid vigor.

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    epcvirus
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    Diamond

    binggo :rbounce:

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    paulajay
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    very informative thread out there!!!

    for those who agains inbreed fowls...

    :lol: :lol: :lol:

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    Ray Boles
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    Ace, Mr Siegels theory is on line. The most important reason for mutitation is for the survival of a species. A species will usualy adapt or change before it goes extinct. Most bad effect of indreeding are caused by bad selection of man. In nature animals and birds will not do this.

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    healthy exchanges of info . . .

    thank you fellow cockers really appreciates
    your sharing of knowledges on breeding
    we the reader are continually learning new
    informations you are sharing on this thread

    keep on coming . . .

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    danding09
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    crosses brother sister mating????

    i'm very pleased with the way you guys are giving the right info to us. i'm just a beginner backyard breeder ang i hope i will have success with kind of "brother-sister" mating.

    last question though, what if the broodfowls you are going to use is not pure or they are crosses??? is brother-sister also applicable???

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    ben.escandor
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    Nature makes its selection thru the Alpha male and Alpha female, as in the case of the wolf packs and hyenas. The dominant male and female of the group won't allow other members to have offsprings.

    beerhunter

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    epcvirus
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    very informative

    I LIKE ALL YOUR IDEAS. VERY EDUCAYIONAL .

    I SALUTE TO ALL OF YOU.

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    EPC d' DREAMER

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    back to my first thread . . .

    danding09

    search ray boles thread and you will be guided

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    epcvirus
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    Ace & Rayboles

    Your posts are really scientific and very detailed as well. It really fascinated me and gave me more courage to push through on my breeding endeavour.

    I'm a professional but I'm so open-minded. I always seek and heed not only some of the professional's opinion, but also the experienced laymans. Because I believe, there are so many good ideas, procedures, and techniques that are not yet written in the book of knowledge.


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    cheers . . .

    :sprcool: :hombre: :hat: :crazy:

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    lihim sa pagbuo ng sariling linyada

    authored by andrew t. bunan

    i recommend this book.says a lot about different breeding methods as well as inbreeding.the book disclosed how mayor juancho aguirre perpetuated his famous duke hulsey greys using inbreeding method.very informative book.

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    nemmmo
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    Nice One ACE !

    so don't play too much on blood.... 'filter your coffee and keep it black'

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    hiroundhead
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    bro.xsis.

    fought this 16 months old stag this past week, now a 1xw. out of my 4xw n sister #605, bred 4xw w/ pullet offspring. have 3 stags but will only fight 2, other brother no good limpy. selection is the key, n ruthless culling. cull, cull cullllllllllll.
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    SPANISH GATE
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    Danding, bro' go for what is in your mind ......let's your experienced do the talking....perhaps we aint looking for asuperman like rooster ... di baleng nang lima lang manokis mo ... kung lahat class A....kesa 100 na puro claa B..... GUDLUCK

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    Cliff King
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    Thumbs up Inbreeding!

    Hello everyone:

    Nice to see that so many are interested in this breeding method.

    Ace and Ray Boles have pretty much said all that needs to be said concerning this method.

    Selection is definitely the key to bringing forth the very best specimine. This will also put the cull ratio to it's lowest possible %.

    Breeding of two tightly inbred families that have your desired traits will also raise the % of vigorous hybred crosses for battle.

    Best of luck to each one in their efforts to improve your fowl.



    Most Respectfully:

    Cliff King


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    cliff king

    yup selection is the key for successfull breeding

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    tnx everybody 4 ur help

    ive learned a lot!

    more power to u guys!!

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    me too thanks

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    SALAMAT DIN

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    MOhillbilly
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    Carver used to say about inbreeding his dogs "Twice the good,triple the trash"

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    ive heard that you will get one exceptional bird out of 50, but that one bird will be much worth it. just dig yourself a big hole on culling day

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