Page 10 of 19 FirstFirst ... 56789101112131415 ... LastLast
Results 271 to 300 of 560

Thread: DO I HAVE DUNGHILLS??

  
  1. #271
    Senior Member Bama71's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    NE AL
    Posts
    522
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: DO I HAVE DUNGHILLS??

    Quote Originally Posted by Skincarver View Post
    LMAO, yeah anybody is crazy for having them ole Grey chickens I figured he would hack out soon as he caught site of these Hatch birds. But I walked him in a pretty wide circle when I came by them so hes all good LMAO
    Probably squalling the whole time like a 5 year old girl lmao. I do hope he does good for you.

  2. #272
    Senior Member Skincarver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Posts
    2,244
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: DO I HAVE DUNGHILLS??

    Quote Originally Posted by Bama71 View Post
    Probably squalling the whole time like a 5 year old girl lmao. I do hope he does good for you.
    Thanks . LMAO, he never did start crying but had big tears in his eyes and was looking pretty nervous . You could tell he was wanting me to walk faster lol.
    JK , I think he will be a good one.If he proves out Ill breed him with these old Blackwell Greys . I got one hen left if nothing happens to her.

  3. #273
    Senior Member Skincarver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Posts
    2,244
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: DO I HAVE DUNGHILLS??

    Quote Originally Posted by Bama71 View Post
    You got at least one little ole grey that will moult hack surely. Lol. I’m just picking on you.
    I do got a big Whitehackle rooster that's molt hacked sure enough . I joked Mongoose told him it was his damn fault for starting this thread. Happen just a few days after that.
    I scowl at him ever day as I throw him a cup of feed but it dont seem to phase him none LMAO. Bad thing is a few days before that he was meeting me at the door of his pen ready to rip me to pieces. Course it could be the way I reacted to that situation that hacked him instead of the molt.

  4. #274
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2018
    Location
    Arkansas, USA
    Posts
    977
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: DO I HAVE DUNGHILLS??

    I don't mind a high strung crazy rooster, my buddy hates them, but I hate a man fighter, he doesn't seem to mind them. It always seemed to me a natural man fighter wasn't truly game, I know there's some out there that are, I just mean on average, there's exceptions to every rule.

  5. Likes LaBlue liked this post
  6. #275
    Senior Member Skincarver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Posts
    2,244
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: DO I HAVE DUNGHILLS??

    I used to no mind them but I got tired of going around with sores all over my arms and busted knuckles. Like you said a lot of them seem like they are a little cold , I guess how like some people pretend to be tough to cover up the fact they are really scared. I don't know if manfighters are any less games than some other fowl that aren't game but they sure are hard to fool with sometimes.Theyre always in a bad mood and it puts me in a bad mood trying to condition or handle them.I someone has the patience for it then some are damn good ones. Ive got a few that are kinda mean an hope to be able to breed away from it. Itll be my luck though that the damn means ones end up being the best ones. LMAO But I don't expect much more h3ll Ive always had bad luck.

  7. #276
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2018
    Location
    Arkansas, USA
    Posts
    977
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: DO I HAVE DUNGHILLS??

    I'm trying to remember what he had that was so damn mean, radios maybe. They would just make another rooster melt. They were good chickens but in a long drag, they'd quit or turn that head instead of peck.

  8. #277
    Senior Member Skincarver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Posts
    2,244
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: DO I HAVE DUNGHILLS??

    Truth is most people don't want to get in there and get embarrassed . Im the same way in public , if somebody embarrasses me in a crowd Im ready to fight. Nothing makes me madder. But with fowl it not as much getting mad as it is being ashamed. My brother kept a line of Red Quill , they were damn good fowl , it took a hell of a rooster to whip one. He would always get mad cause people would run to them other boys at derbies with Hatch fowl that fought tough wanting to buy them when one of the RedQuill would have probably whipped 2 or 3 of them back to back. But I think that's the main reason. Nobody wants to look bad.They would rather loose their money as to look bad doing it.LOL don't go that far Ive got enough sense to know winning is better than loosing any day of the week.But I know there are fowl that can do both, that's what I try to keep . If I had to choose one or the other winning fowl or dead game fowl Id pick the winning fowl .

  9. #278
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Louisiana
    Posts
    7,207
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: DO I HAVE DUNGHILLS??

    When you've had a family a long time and have raised and showed many (not 10-20 ) it is quite easy to cull out the ones that may quit you when the going gets real rough. The two main things I'd cull a cock or stag for- man fighters & wild and crazy. Both are mentally unstable and not to be trusted. Most of mine when handled every day will come right to the door and nearly jump in my arms. If you don't have fowl like that you are surely missing out on much enjoyment

  10. Thanks Skincarver thanked for this post
  11. #279
    Senior Member MONGOOSE's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    7,770
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: DO I HAVE DUNGHILLS??

    Quote Originally Posted by LaBlue View Post
    When you've had a family a long time and have raised and showed many (not 10-20 ) it is quite easy to cull out the ones that may quit you when the going gets real rough. The two main things I'd cull a cock or stag for- man fighters & wild and crazy. Both are mentally unstable and not to be trusted. Most of mine when handled every day will come right to the door and nearly jump in my arms. If you don't have fowl like that you are surely missing out on much enjoyment
    Very true. Many people think they got non game gamecocks, when really they got “mentally unstable fowl”.
    Problem is there gamblers and they paid $300 for him, so there not going to cull.

  12. #280
    Moderator
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    NW Fla.
    Posts
    1,787
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: DO I HAVE DUNGHILLS??

    I think any manfighter is highly suspect to quit or either get killed by turning his back to the other cock while trying to come after you.
    Example: Carried 2 shows to Brownsville that were not Ateam cocks but too good to dispose of. Had 2 brothers not bred like my usual pit cocks and would continously bite and try to turn in my hands. Ended up with 1 of them in each show. Yep, both ended up as 5th cocks in 5c derby. Both lost by turning back on me and giving opponent free shot. Ended up 8-2 that day and no piece of the pie. Already hated manfighters. They ain't worth the trouble and at my place just last til I can get my hands on them. It don't matter if they are purebreds or pitcocks One season back when Orlando, St. Augustine, and Biloxi were held Murphy and Harry Parr sent Hugh Norman a large group of cocks for Hugh to train for the tournaments. First day after the cocks arrived nearly every cock was hacked. Was Murphy's cocks dunghill? No! They hacked for the same reason some cocks moult hack. Hugh sent all the cocks back home. Cocks can hack for many reasons and we should not be so quick to eliminate whole families just because it makes us so mad or embarrasses us when it happens . I had a very good cock once that you could only catch in a fly pen one way.I had to get down low in the pen and ease him to a corner to catch him with my hands down in front of him. If I stood up and spread my arms over him, he would hack cold til I got him up in my arms. I fought him 6 times and it happened every time I trained him. Let me add 2 of his fights he came from behind. His last fight a dunghill could not win. Betting a hawk or owl nearly caught him when he was young and on free range. Bred him and had no problem with any of his stags.
    Last edited by RHman1026; August 29th, 2018 at 10:34 PM.

  13. Likes Skincarver liked this post
  14. #281
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2018
    Location
    Arkansas, USA
    Posts
    977
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: DO I HAVE DUNGHILLS??

    Quote Originally Posted by LaBlue View Post
    When you've had a family a long time and have raised and showed many (not 10-20 ) it is quite easy to cull out the ones that may quit you when the going gets real rough. The two main things I'd cull a cock or stag for- man fighters & wild and crazy. Both are mentally unstable and not to be trusted. Most of mine when handled every day will come right to the door and nearly jump in my arms. If you don't have fowl like that you are surely missing out on much enjoyment
    I was back in my early to mid 20s when I had those kinds of birds, honestly looking back I'm surprised the man fighters bothered me.

  15. #282
    Senior Member MONGOOSE's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    7,770
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: DO I HAVE DUNGHILLS??

    Quote Originally Posted by RHman1026 View Post
    I think any manfighter is highly suspect to quit or either get killed by turning his back to the other cock while trying to come after you.
    Example: Carried 2 shows to Brownsville that were not Ateam cocks but too good to dispose of. Had 2 brothers not bred like my usual pit cocks and would continously bite and try to turn in my hands. Ended up with 1 of them in each show. Yep, both ended up as 5th cocks in 5c derby. Both lost by turning back on me and giving opponent free shot. Ended up 8-2 that day and no piece of the pie. Already hated manfighters. They ain't worth the trouble and at my place just last til I can get my hands on them. It don't matter if they are purebreds or pitcocks One season back when Orlando, St. Augustine, and Biloxi were held Murphy and Harry Parr sent Hugh Norman a large group of cocks for Hugh to train for the tournaments. First day after the cocks arrived nearly every cock was hacked. Was Murphy's cocks dunghill? No! They hacked for the same reason some cocks moult hack. Hugh sent all the cocks back home. Cocks can hack for many reasons and we should not be so quick to eliminate whole families just because it makes us so mad or embarrasses us when it happens . I had a very good cock once that you could only catch in a fly pen one way.I had to get down low in the pen and ease him to a corner to catch him with my hands down in front of him. If I stood up and spread my arms over him, he would hack cold til I got him up in my arms. I fought him 6 times and it happened every time I trained him. Let me add 2 of his fights he came from behind. His last fight a dunghill could not win. Betting a hawk or owl nearly caught him when he was young and on free range. Bred him and had no problem with any of his stags.
    My question to you is why deal with a bird as you mentioned when you have a $hitload that don’t do this weird $h1t. When I was young I messed with weird birds. Learned along time ago 90% of the time there not worth it. So I don’t.
    How many times did any of your u have a cock act bad in the pit and the first thing through you mind was
    ” I KNEW IT!”
    There’s a reason to listen to that little voice in your head. I’ve learned. Will you?

  16. Thanks LaBlue thanked for this post
  17. #283
    Senior Member Skincarver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Posts
    2,244
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: DO I HAVE DUNGHILLS??

    Quote Originally Posted by LaBlue View Post
    When you've had a family a long time and have raised and showed many (not 10-20 ) it is quite easy to cull out the ones that may quit you when the going gets real rough. The two main things I'd cull a cock or stag for- man fighters & wild and crazy. Both are mentally unstable and not to be trusted. Most of mine when handled every day will come right to the door and nearly jump in my arms. If you don't have fowl like that you are surely missing out on much enjoyment
    Now $hit Lablue, you just heard Ratliff say that. LMAO Just kidding brother I had to say it.
    I agree , I think its a mental instability as well ,good fowl should be an enjoyment and something you look forward to doing, not something dread or get upset over.If you have a bad temper its best not to fool with manfighters or youll look around and you wont have many chickens left. I cant spot all that might pull up but when you see one spar and it fights scared that can be a sign. Guess it all boils down to finding a good family of chickens and sticking with them and learn them thru and thru .

  18. Likes KevinG liked this post
  19. #284
    Senior Member MONGOOSE's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    7,770
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: DO I HAVE DUNGHILLS??

    I was wondering how this came out for y’all. I know I own dunghills but mine don’t where panties during the moult.

  20. Likes HeavyD liked this post
  21. #285
    Senior Member leonidas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Guanajuato
    Posts
    749
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: DO I HAVE DUNGHILLS??

    i've got dunghills also but i think i've only had two hack up in the molt both did the same thing. they'd get a bill hold on there wing and shuffle themselves into the ground. had someone tell to check the gland on the base of the tail but i'm not watching one do that for any length of time. it's a cull

  22. #286
    Senior Member MONGOOSE's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    7,770
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: DO I HAVE DUNGHILLS??

    Quote Originally Posted by leonidas View Post
    i've got dunghills also but i think i've only had two hack up in the molt both did the same thing. they'd get a bill hold on there wing and shuffle themselves into the ground. had someone tell to check the gland on the base of the tail but i'm not watching one do that for any length of time. it's a cull
    Most people never realize it but most culls are dunghills. Why ask why, cull and decrease the problem and make more space.

  23. Likes southernX liked this post
  24. #287
    Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Posts
    50
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: DO I HAVE DUNGHILLS??

    Quote Originally Posted by Skincarver View Post
    If you have a bad temper its best not to fool with manfighters or youll look around and you wont have many chickens left.

    And that's a bad thing? Man-fighters, cocks that don't settle down and cocks that abuse hens are here to test us. We either pass or fail.

  25. #288
    Senior Member Steel city farm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2018
    Location
    On the Farm
    Posts
    1,250
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: DO I HAVE DUNGHILLS??

    Quote Originally Posted by Shamo View Post
    And that's a bad thing? Man-fighters, cocks that don't settle down and cocks that abuse hens are here to test us. We either pass or fail.
    I have killed a lot of manfighters. I can not and will not deal with them no anther how good they are! When I go to feed or walk by there cord area and they fly at me or follow me trying to hit me he is done ! Will not put up with that and I Dam sure won’t breed one !!!! My main concern now days is my wife helps me a lot this time of th year when the days are short so she feeds for me in the evenings. I will not have one beating on her and her being discouraged to b around the fowl So they are gone immediately!!! Plus I hate having to work a man fighter on the bench !! To me a man fighter is some kind of mental issues and we all know a mentality stable cock is a must!! So to me man fighters Are Dunghills
    Last edited by Steel city farm; February 11th, 2019 at 12:37 AM.

  26. Likes KevinG, Asil/penny, CA whitetoppy06 liked this post
  27. #289
    Senior Member MONGOOSE's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    7,770
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: DO I HAVE DUNGHILLS??

    Quote Originally Posted by MONGOOSE View Post
    Yup, it’s that time again, for the ever controversial discussion on your fowl acting like a 5 year old girl in a pink dress, during the moult, when he sees a mouse.
    I don’t care who you are, what shows your into, or if they are 80% winners.
    It just never makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside looking at those birds during feeding time.
    PS, yes I love stirring the pot.
    Since EVERYBODY is so sensitive as there fowl this time of year................
    Last edited by MONGOOSE; August 15th, 2019 at 12:23 PM.

  28. #290
    Senior Member MONGOOSE's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    7,770
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: DO I HAVE DUNGHILLS??

    I love hearing the theory that “cocks loose there testosterone during the molt”. Ive never seen any studies to back that up and if thats true. Why do majority of my fowl show no such problem?
    I wonder if hawks, owls, falcons, eagles stop hunting during there molt cause there too under hack to hunt?

    Like I said earlier. I have never seen a multi time winning ace, who acted bad during the molt, get behind and not act bad.
    Any great cutting family can look good when there winning. How do they act when there going to loose?
    I guess Myself and friends just got lucky to have bloodlines that dont hack in the molt.
    Oh, by the way. Im not saying I never get one. Im just saying he never makes it to a dance or a brood pen.
    Last edited by MONGOOSE; August 15th, 2019 at 02:25 PM.

  29. Likes Hoghunter liked this post
  30. #291
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2019
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    354
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: DO I HAVE DUNGHILLS??

    Only problem with my fowl in the molt is they are ugly as sin. Two or three tail feathers, patchy Cape and saddle feathers. When they flap wings to pump up a good crow you see gaps where feathers should be. Mine even get that ugly black ticking in their necks.

    Then I think how good they will look when their new coat of armor is grown in.
    Yep they get ugly but not their attitude. Still act like they are gods gift to the world.

  31. Likes KevinG liked this post
  32. #292
    Senior Member KevinG's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Location
    Lone Star State
    Posts
    1,916
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: DO I HAVE DUNGHILLS??

    Have gotten by pretty good this time around although they took a beatin but never lost their nerve or looked like a hunched over buzzard. They acted well through it all, happy with it. I did feed seed throughout in their mix, sunflower and black. Feed store ran out of seed once so I got some bird seed that also had dried berries, they loved it. I cld have gotten some that already had them mixed in but I like to mix my own, increase and decrease things. Wish it would get a little colder so that they'd have the urge and give it that final push to finish it up. Takes a damn good while here, I mean who the hell wants to hurry up and grow feathers in the heat anyway. The birds with heavy plummage are the ones that Im always having to wait on and there are plenty of those from hackle, body to tail. The Butchers have a stem on their tail thats about 3 to 4 inches long no bs, that part that looks like its wrapped in hard plastic. By the time they grow a tail, its well into the new year but I gotta say its a tail from hell though LOL.
    SF
    Last edited by KevinG; October 18th, 2019 at 03:57 PM.

  33. Likes Hoghunter liked this post
  34. #293
    Member cbgamefarm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    usa
    Posts
    374
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: DO I HAVE DUNGHILLS??

    Quote Originally Posted by MONGOOSE View Post
    I love hearing the theory that “cocks loose there testosterone during the molt”. Ive never seen any studies to back that up and if thats true. Why do majority of my fowl show no such problem?
    I wonder if hawks, owls, falcons, eagles stop hunting during there molt cause there too under hack to hunt?

    Like I said earlier. I have never seen a multi time winning ace, who acted bad during the molt, get behind and not act bad.
    Any great cutting family can look good when there winning. How do they act when there going to loose?
    I guess Myself and friends just got lucky to have bloodlines that dont hack in the molt.
    Oh, by the way. Im not saying I never get one. Im just saying he never makes it to a dance or a brood pen.
    Mongoose.....buddy when a chicken goes into moult they have all the blood in New feathers......a gamecock doesn't have to forage to find food, we feed them. Lol. Hawks and owls and buzzards and all those others depend on theme selves where gamecocks depend on us. I don't know about testosterone.
    No clue.
    You would think it would increase do to more movement in the blood, it's like the feathers are working in over time and it shuts the body down, which is why older fowl take it harshly compared to younger fowl. No blood in the Combs and body, all the blood in the feathers. Don't know how testosterone plays a role in making feathers but I bet it does .

  35. #294
    Senior Member MONGOOSE's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    7,770
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: DO I HAVE DUNGHILLS??

    Quote Originally Posted by cbgamefarm View Post
    Mongoose.....buddy when a chicken goes into moult they have all the blood in New feathers......a gamecock doesn't have to forage to find food, we feed them. Lol. Hawks and owls and buzzards and all those others depend on theme selves where gamecocks depend on us. I don't know about testosterone.
    No clue.
    You would think it would increase do to more movement in the blood, it's like the feathers are working in over time and it shuts the body down, which is why older fowl take it harshly compared to younger fowl. No blood in the Combs and body, all the blood in the feathers. Don't know how testosterone plays a role in making feathers but I bet it does .

    I kinda love poking a stick at knife guys lol. Like I said earlier. Why myself and most of my friends rarely have one act bad in the moult? Luck? Ours are just chickens too.

  36. #295
    Member cbgamefarm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    usa
    Posts
    374
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: DO I HAVE DUNGHILLS??

    Damn toot your own horn. Lmao I wonder how many cocks you lost to that hacked up during the moult. I know for a fact I've lost to cocks that did. I played a few over my years, I'm certain it's happened. If you dont want to feed a rooster that's hacked up, you don't have to. That simple, but no reason to ruffle up the feathers of men who know what they have and don't pay attention to what thier doing this time of the year.

  37. #296
    Senior Member MONGOOSE's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    7,770
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: DO I HAVE DUNGHILLS??

    Quote Originally Posted by cbgamefarm View Post
    Damn toot your own horn. Lmao I wonder how many cocks you lost to that hacked up during the moult. I know for a fact I've lost to cocks that did. I played a few over my years, I'm certain it's happened. If you dont want to feed a rooster that's hacked up, you don't have to. That simple, but no reason to ruffle up the feathers of men who know what they have and don't pay attention to what thier doing this time of the year.
    If it ruffles your feathers I guarantee you its not my fault and as far as tooting my own horn. Im no one special around here. Everyone has great fowl and most dont hack up either.
    Boys around here have had the same longheel blood for decades.
    Key word is “longheel”.

  38. #297
    Member cbgamefarm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    usa
    Posts
    374
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: DO I HAVE DUNGHILLS??

    Like I said, if you know what u got it don't matter Budd. U know you've lost to dunghills before so I dont know what the debate is.
    I'm waiting for squall paw to get on here and tell a story about a 3 1/2 pound 6 month old stag he played nakid heal into Jimbo Cox in the long knife and won.
    That's what I'm really looking forward to at the moment

  39. Likes Naturaljack7, grey/dom liked this post
  40. #298
    Banned grey/dom's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Tigbakayan
    Posts
    7,572
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: DO I HAVE DUNGHILLS??

    Mongoose is the gamest on net but dunghill at the pit.
    All tall tales. I wonder why people still believed in him.

    Dnt wrestle in the net. You gonna lose. Action always speak louder than words.

    Its irony. Coz we are on the net. And the winner is Monggos.

    Where is ur moult pictures? Hahahahahaa. I never believed u own a single feather even with your thousand pictures all over again and again. Btw. Had you paid already?

    Too much noise but aint paying.

  41. Likes MONGOOSE liked this post
  42. #299
    Senior Member gaffer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    Kansas
    Posts
    1,215
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: DO I HAVE DUNGHILLS??

    Goose, what do you consider longheal? Lengthwise.

  43. #300
    Senior Member MONGOOSE's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    7,770
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: DO I HAVE DUNGHILLS??

    Quote Originally Posted by cbgamefarm View Post
    Like I said, if you know what u got it don't matter Budd. U know you've lost to dunghills before so I dont know what the debate is.
    I'm waiting for squall paw to get on here and tell a story about a 3 1/2 pound 6 month old stag he played nakid heal into Jimbo Cox in the long knife and won.
    That's what I'm really looking forward to at the moment
    No debate. The name of this topic is “dunghills”. If you dont own them. No need to to even comment.
    Ive said this before. My father only owned hatches in the 60’s, 70’s & 80’s. Thats all I knew till we got the Kelsos in the 90’s.
    No doubt the Kelso’s won far more than the hatches but Id NEVER say they are as game as the hatches.
    Just keeping it real. Todays “blade” fowl dont compare in GAMENESS to yesteryears longheel fowl.

  44. Likes KevinG liked this post

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •