Results 1 to 14 of 14

Thread: A question regarding the raising of cocks

  1. #1
    Member
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    australia
    Posts
    50

    A question regarding the raising of cocks

    I've got a few cocks in the Philippines. We don't intend to fight any until they're 2 years old or thereabouts. My question is when should we start on the conditioning/exercising of the birds, and also what are the pros and cons on whether we should start earlier or later.
    I have 6 about 15 months old and another 6 about 4 months old.
    Sorry if this seems like a very basic question but I'm only just learning about this sport.
    I'm from Australia and cockfighting is illegal here but all of my birds are in Cebu, Philippines.
    Thanks.

  2. #2
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Louisiana
    Posts
    5,987

    Re: A question regarding the raising of cocks

    Game cocks to be their very best need 365 day conditioning. That means good feed,clean water, and a large pen or tie cord to get plenty of exercise. Also move him to a new location at least once prEr week. Just please don't think you'll take him from a small dirty pen and condition him for 2-3 weeks and be competitive. My opinion after 54 years with fowl.

  3. #3
    Member
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    australia
    Posts
    50

    Re: A question regarding the raising of cocks

    Thanks, yes,they're all on cords and have good food and clean water. What I was thinking of is when should I be putting them in fly pens, scratch pens, running pens etc.
    Thanks for the tip about moving them around the yard weekly. I imagine that's to stop them going stale mentally.

  4. #4
    Senior Member Birdderfly's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2018
    Location
    G.F s.carolina
    Posts
    807

    Re: A question regarding the raising of cocks

    Quote Originally Posted by shaunc View Post
    Thanks, yes,they're all on cords and have good food and clean water. What I was thinking of is when should I be putting them in fly pens, scratch pens, running pens etc.
    Thanks for the tip about moving them around the yard weekly. I imagine that's to stop them going stale mentally.
    Since you said phillipino then I imagine you will show them in long knife remember to much work will make them tight and they want reach out enough to cut with the lk dont scratch to hard or they want cut

  5. #5
    Member
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    australia
    Posts
    50

    Re: A question regarding the raising of cocks

    Yes, they'll be fighting long knife in the Philippines.

  6. #6
    Senior Member Pinolim's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2001
    Location
    California
    Posts
    2,944

    Re: A question regarding the raising of cocks

    As LaBlue said it is 365 care yearly and observation how they take to their new environment when moved around....not merely throwing down feeds on them but see if they eat and consume all that is given and they are rotated at least weekly not merely because they need to be rotated but also to feel their bodies if the feeds go into their bodies or not ....good bodied birds are easier to prep for derbies.......

  7. #7
    Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Posts
    398

    Re: A question regarding the raising of cocks

    In my personal opinion Health is Priority, just get them as healthy as possible. Handle them as much as possible, expose them to everything they will go through during a keep and make sure you spar them. But what I always focus on is overall Health....... Oh yeah good fresh clean Grass, that's a must for me

  8. #8
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2014
    Posts
    845

    Re: A question regarding the raising of cocks

    bumping to get rid of the sh#t.......................................
    Msofty is back

  9. #9
    Member Pasqually's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2018
    Location
    Louisiana
    Posts
    190

    Re: A question regarding the raising of cocks

    Bump this up


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  10. #10
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2015
    Posts
    2,538

    Re: A question regarding the raising of cocks

    Quote Originally Posted by shaunc View Post
    Thanks, yes,they're all on cords and have good food and clean water. What I was thinking of is when should I be putting them in fly pens, scratch pens, running pens etc.
    Thanks for the tip about moving them around the yard weekly. I imagine that's to stop them going stale mentally.
    Three week keep or working prior to fight day. Day one 10 flys ten runs add 5 a day for seven days. Then on the eighth day you go back down 5 a day. So by day seven you are doing 45 runs and 45 flys. Then by day 14 you are back to 10 runs and ten flys. The last week no work.

    Now this is where you need to know your chickens. Some breeds can take this much work. Some can not

  11. #11
    Member
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    australia
    Posts
    50

    Re: A question regarding the raising of cocks

    Thanks, I thought that there may be some benefit to exercising the birds earlier than 3 weeks before a fight.
    We don't intend to fight any of the cocks until they are at least 2 years old. Would it be of any use to follow the above program and maybe finish it with a 3 or 4 buckle spar from when say the cocks are 12 months old or so.
    The breed we have were all bred from 2 Kelso hens and a sweater cock. I've been led to believe that this is a fairly common battle cross for long knife fighting in the Philippines.
    Last edited by shaunc; February 13th, 2019 at 05:41 PM.

  12. #12
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2015
    Posts
    2,538

    Re: A question regarding the raising of cocks

    Quote Originally Posted by shaunc View Post
    Thanks, I thought that there may be some benefit to exercising the birds earlier than 3 weeks before a fight.
    We don't intend to fight any of the cocks until they are at least 2 years old. Would it be of any use to follow the above program and maybe finish it with a 3 or 4 buckle spar from when say the cocks are 12 months old or so.
    The breed we have were all bred from 2 Kelso hens and a sweater cock. I've been led to believe that this is a fairly common battle cross for long knife fighting in the Philippines.
    I use 8 foot round pens with heavy straw in them and a 16 inch divider through the whole thing. They are pretty much ready when I pull them out

  13. #13
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    2,628

    Re: A question regarding the raising of cocks

    Quote Originally Posted by shaunc View Post
    Thanks, yes,they're all on cords and have good food and clean water. What I was thinking of is when should I be putting them in fly pens, scratch pens, running pens etc.
    Thanks for the tip about moving them around the yard weekly. I imagine that's to stop them going stale mentally.

    Looks like you decided to do a "Natural Conditioning" on them birds. All those pens you mention are tools for such conditioning method. You can add as well tie cord rotations. My advise then would be to start them on this conditioning pens when they are about 22 months old( 24 months = 2 years). It is important to keep them healthy throughout their life but most specially during these last two months towards showtime.

  14. #14
    Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2017
    Location
    Az
    Posts
    211

    Re: A question regarding the raising of cocks

    Quote Originally Posted by LaBlue View Post
    Game cocks to be their very best need 365 day conditioning. That means good feed,clean water, and a large pen or tie cord to get plenty of exercise. Also move him to a new location at least once prEr week. Just please don't think you'll take him from a small dirty pen and condition him for 2-3 weeks and be competitive. My opinion after 54 years with fowl.
    Could not have said it any better, good common sense and hard work, keep them busy and mentally alert. Worse thing for a Gamecock is depression.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •