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lucasemerson · June 1st, 2012, 08:44 PM

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here are pictures of my Marsh butcher broodcock direct from mark Marsh

greenlegs · June 2nd, 2012, 01:13 AM

Cant' wait to see them... thanks for the effort

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Originally Posted by lucasemerson

here are pictures of my Marsh butcher broodcock direct from mark Marsh

greenlegs · June 2nd, 2012, 01:24 AM

Before watching the video... I said to myself... "you can't win on gameness alone in the LK... " but after seeing the video... that fight is one of the rare occassions where a game bird wins on gameness alone.
Thanks sir Luc !

... still waiting for the pix !

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7th fight Bakbakan ( Novenber 18, 2009 ) - YouTube

I think this is the only lk fight I have ever seen, where a bird really had too dig down deep, and win on gameness alone, and wouldn't you know that it was a butcher. Not many of them that have ever shown that kind of heart in the lk, the owner should be proud.

Hotcocker · June 2nd, 2012, 03:20 AM

i love that!! gameness prevails again!

lucasemerson · June 5th, 2012, 01:44 PM

Here's another picture of the butcher broodcock from mark

Hotcocker · June 5th, 2012, 01:56 PM

he looks awsome man! good luck withem, you did right to get them from such a renouned breeder and a line of fowl with such a long lineage was a wise choice!

Brublackbutcher · June 15th, 2012, 04:23 AM

Hello friends

So here's the thing, I've searched the internet for news on black butchers. Sites like ultimatefowl dont have any words on them. Most Americans have never heard of them except brassback albanies while most Pinos dont know who originated them. Black butchers started to be known in PI only in the last decade or maybe the last few years. So there is not much on them so this thing has to be recent. Now most people would think to get these, automatically they think of sids,mc raes, bonanza blacks and cross them to butchers to get black butchers. So I think most people been trying to make their own versions and called it black butchers. Thats fine with me, but no one seems to know who originated them. Things like brassback clarets, brassback hatches bla bla bla has been recent after this. I have my own conclusion to how it was originated and who started the black butcher craze in PI but I just want to hear what most Americans and Pinos have to say before I share my story. Hate or critize these thread but I just want to know the truth and I think most people would like to know as well

MarshButcher · June 15th, 2012, 04:56 AM

And so it continues.........

LoneWolf · June 15th, 2012, 05:12 AM

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And so it continues.........

I was waiting on you to weight in on this Mr.Marsh!Lmao...it kinda makes me think and compare it to the endless families of fowl now called "Hatch".Even the one's like the Leipers that people call hatch even though Mr.Hatch had nothing to do with their origin.

MAD MAX · June 15th, 2012, 05:15 AM

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Hello friends

So here's the thing, I've searched the internet for news on black butchers. Sites like ultimatefowl dont have any words on them. Most Americans have never heard of them except brassback albanies while most Pinos dont know who originated them. Black butchers started to be known in PI only in the last decade or maybe the last few years. So there is not much on them so this thing has to be recent. Now most people would think to get these, automatically they think of sids,mc raes, bonanza blacks and cross them to butchers to get black butchers. So I think most people been trying to make their own versions and called it black butchers. Thats fine with me, but no one seems to know who originated them. Things like brassback clarets, brassback hatches bla bla bla has been recent after this. I have my own conclusion to how it was originated and who started the black butcher craze in PI but I just want to hear what most Americans and Pinos have to say before I share my story. Hate or critize these thread but I just want to know the truth and I think most people would like to know as well

I believe I have the story , Or at lest one of them in my stuff at home Ill post What I can find in a few days

Outlaw greys · June 15th, 2012, 05:41 AM

Someone crosses brassyback albany into butchers and called them black butchers that about it

N.C. flarry eye · June 15th, 2012, 07:20 AM

the first i have ever read about was whitehackles from england over a hundred years ago was brassback colored, as for the butchers i think everyone on this site should know by now that marsh butchers are not brassback but i would not hate on the brassback butcher strain, alot of people like them and IF they were made of marsh butcher and something else , i would take that as a compliment that they were liked good enough by someone to use them to set another strain

SteelSpurinFarm · June 15th, 2012, 07:41 AM

There high in whitehackel blood.I gave my partner the ones i had.he's done more research on them.and has been breeding them.I've shown some in the past crossed on hatch great cutters and powerful.You can message get81 he can tell you more about them than i can.

68pkup · June 20th, 2012, 11:30 AM

may i has who has these good marsh butchers

deadly butchers · June 20th, 2012, 01:40 PM

I crossed phil marsh butcher over sweater hen and came out real good. I highly recommend to get some in there breeding program. I will try to post some pics of the stags. I have some for sell if anyone is interested. PM me

elben21 · June 20th, 2012, 06:54 PM

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I crossed phil marsh butcher over sweater hen and came out real good. I highly recommend to get some in there breeding program. I will try to post some pics of the stags. I have some for sell if anyone is interested. PM me

Sir--Please post some pictures. Thanks..

Buzzo · June 20th, 2012, 09:16 PM

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Here's another picture of the butcher broodcock from mark

thats a classy looking rooster

pitcrawler · June 20th, 2012, 10:35 PM

This is direct from the fountain head - Marsh Butcher I have been breeding them for several years; they give me good results...I will crossed them this coming breeding season to Wasatch and hope will NICK?????????

http://s610.photobucket.com/albums/t...cherPair-1.jpg

Below is Wasatch...as breed by my friend Brandon...
http://s610.photobucket.com/albums/t...=img_33742.jpg

lucasemerson · June 20th, 2012, 11:31 PM

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thats a classy looking rooster

one page back their are three more really good pictures of the rooster I got from mark marsh

rsarmiento · June 21st, 2012, 12:34 AM

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Thanks Mark, another thing to consider is LOCATION and TYPE OF SOIL, these things play more of a part than most think. I had always wondered about Tom showing stags as I know he did on occasions, now I know that he looked to U to help out. I will give an example....Mac White bred a Butcher from my farm over Claret from his farm, I did the same Claret from his farm and Butcher from my farm. We both got them off fairly close together but his were matured quicker than my and seemed a tad bigger. Mine do come on in time it just that they are a little slower. I live in the mountains, 5200 feet, Mac doesn't.....ENVIROMENT is in my opinion 50%, just some things to consider

I also read this in The Best of Narragansett........thanks'

deadly butchers · June 24th, 2012, 01:17 PM

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reli · June 24th, 2012, 07:05 PM

I need a piece of advice from you guys --hope you don't mind.

Who is the most honest breeder in the Philippines or in the US with whom shall I get a trio of Bucher? Appreciate your advice folks, Gani Reli.

easy goer · June 25th, 2012, 12:30 AM

just want to share my own blend of butcher..hes half butcher half pinnion ylh. YLH BC x bucther hen...a times winner already..picture taken after his first win..minor scratch in the wing area but not broken.

his 2nd win last june 15...unscratched
Diamond Bar enrty

GVE 3-Cocks Derby Sultada 32 - YouTube

N.C. flarry eye · June 25th, 2012, 04:58 AM

whatever happened to the dark legged marsh butchers? does anyone still have them?

redbreeder · June 25th, 2012, 05:54 AM

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whatever happened to the dark legged marsh butchers? does anyone still have them?

Marsh Butcher will occasionally throw a yellow leg, other than that all white.....

N.C. flarry eye · June 25th, 2012, 05:59 AM

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Marsh Butcher will occasionally throw a yellow leg, other than that all white.....

yeah redbreeder, i know about the yellow and white leg family, i was wondering about the dark leg family if anyone still has them , if they are still around

cutrite · June 25th, 2012, 06:22 AM

Ive never heard of the Marsh family having a dark legged fam. of butchers.

N.C. flarry eye · June 25th, 2012, 06:32 AM

maybe they aint out there no more, i was wondering if they ever let any out?

redbreeder · June 25th, 2012, 07:29 AM

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maybe they aint out there no more, i was wondering if they ever let any out?

There are no dark legged butcher fowl, maybe a blue leg pullet, which would be rare but NO dark leg Butcher. Mark is on the board let him validate or correct me...

N.C. flarry eye · June 25th, 2012, 08:15 AM

you might be right redbreeder, the darkleg family might not be around no more, thats why i was wondering if anyone had them, if your right i wonder what happened to them, if the marsh family discontinued them or if they just faded away.